Saying, quote, he won, with reference to joe biden on twitter. The words there you see are real. He won. And by the strange and low standards of a trumpian postelection period, that was actually the outgoing president s first direct reference to president elect bidens victory. Even as donald trump is also backpedalling on it and testing out a range of messages online for why he says that this all happened. Meanwhile, top trump aides are increasingly following reality and not trumps denial. Here is his own National Security adviser. We may have policy disagreements, but, look, if the biden harris ticket is determined to be the winner and, you know, obviously things look that way now, well have a very professional transition from the National Security council, theres no question about it. There you have it. That sounds straightforward, perhaps borderline boreing, but mr. Obrien, i can tell you, is the highest ranking white house official to refer to biden winning. Even with the weird reference that things look that way now. Things are that way. Thats just a fact. Some republican coveragers are moving on from the gops attempt at a sort of deny and delay strategy. Theyre just saying the obvious. Its clear that certainly based on what we know now that joe biden is the president elect. And that transition for the countrys sake, its important for a normal transition to start through. I expect joe biden to be the next president of the United States. As some republicans break with trump in public, we always want to try to show you whats really going on, so its key to note that the Trump White House is privately planning for the obvious and inevitable end of the administration. So there are reports coming out about it rushing to finish certain goals before january 20th, like trying to auction off more drilling in the arctic, to work on this reported loyalty purge for the few days remaining of the administration. Those are the tells that the Trump Administration does know its over, regardless of what trump tweets or doesnt tweet. It also makes clear the current interference with the transition is not part of some grand larger strategy, it is just an act of personal enmity and pettiness. Even if inso doing it risks the health of the American Public. Thats not something im coming up with. That is something that dr. Fauci is calling out directly. Thats the context for president elect biden turning up the heat now. This comes, let be be here, after that full week of president elect biden being quite diplomatic with the president he defeated and is about to replace, but the news tonight is biden laying it out, telling his soon to be predecessor that these transition games could end in unnecessary deaths. More people may die. If we dont coordinate. So how do we get the vaccine . How do we get over 300 million americans vaccinated . Whats the game plan . Its a huge, huge, huge undertaking. Were joined now by alex wagner, the cohost and executive producer of showtimes the circus, and full disclosure, longtime colleague of mine here at msnbc and nbc. Nice to see you back on the beat. And gene of the washington post. Nice to see you. Gene, im curious what you think about what we do in our business. Your newspaper, our network. We have to following whats going on, and so its a little funny to follow the delayed ability of people who run entire states to state now, yes, we have a president elect. Yeah, its weird and stupid and unnecessary. And pointless, ultimately. But it just shows what a what a cult of personality the Republican Party has become. And how enthralled to donald trump this party and its hard to kind of call it a party, its not a its not a body offeringof organized political thought, but its, you know, just trumpism now. I guess they want to wait, what, a few more days for him to spew more nonsense about how he won this and the other that was stolen from him. Its absurd and it is damaging. I mean, we are we are in reaching a horrible crest of this of the coronavirus. And its essential that we have an orderly transition and that is not what were having. Yeah, i mean, gene, i think you just hit the crux of it, and alex, this is this is the negative part, that the pettiness and the politics of it, of course, are at least through january 20th, going to have a tangible countervailing impact on the virus transition process, Everything Else. So as much as anyone else would like to wipe away the politics of it, its part of it. And i want to play for your journalistic fact checking, which i know youll do with great clarity, what is essentially a softball over the plate, but whats going on in other places where trump people are talking. Take a listen. Looking at this election, we have what appears in some sense to be an immaculate deception. President trump believes he will be President Trump, have a second term, and litigation is the first step. In the words of kayleigh mcenany, President Trump will shown up to his own inauguration. We are confident in our strategy going forward. Alex . I hope President Trump doesnt want to get the official crowd size of that inauguration, because i think its going to be one person, president donald trump. You know, the reality is, ari, there are immediate and longterm implications of all of this. In the immediate to Vice President biden, president elect bidens words, there are practical, Urgent Public Health implications of not actually conceding the election or having an orderly transition of power. There are National Security implications. We dont need to go into great detail, but that is real. And then there is the medium to longterm implications of all of this. I have spent enough time crossing the country and talking to Trump Supporters to know that there is a certain section of the American Public that will never believe that joe biden was legitimately elected president. These are pernicious theories, and donald trump has a way of very successfully poisoning the groundwater, and what hes doing right now is dangerous for american democracy. We cant overstate how risky it is to suggest, to maybe even a third of the country, that the person who will take power in january, joe biden, is not the legitimate president. The implications for the Republican Party are vast. The implications for a biden presidency, as he tries to reach across the aisle to get republicans to work with him on anything. If republican constituents do not believe that joe biden should and is president , is going to make the work of republican senators and legislators that much harder as they have to manage a Public Health crisis with a democratic president. So its not just kind of the rhetoric and the nonsense. It is a very real, immediate medium and longterm disaster that could be on our hands unless the president decides to change course shortly. Yeah, i think that makes a lot of sense and why its concerning. And gene, it goes to these rituals that seem to be fomenting in the political class. There should be empathy and sympathy and learn what motivated trump voters in 16 when he won the Electoral College, but that is a oneway request. There was a delegitimization against barack obama. For those reasons weve called out the birther lies and racism. As alex walked us through, there is a delegitimization of this president , on different terms, but it seems, oh, whenever the other side is winning, that process kicks in. For the stakes of it, we want to refer to what you both have referred to, its covid, its a recession, its food insecurity, its all the real stuff whoever was going to win this race, if they were at all. So, was going to have a lot on their plate while americans have less and less on their literal plates. Take a look at something we have from a Dallas Food Bank today. From the ground you could see cars lined up everywhere at fair park. Take a wider look from the air, the length of the line was as far as the eye could see. Backed up on to the freeway. I havent been working since december. March, me. Cant find a job. They cut off our unemployment. Its a big deal. Its a real big deal. This is a big blessing for us to be able to get this. This is what people are living through around the country. We go back to it. We cover it in different ways, gene. Its the stakes of this, adds the virus surges, and i want to emphasize this. Its not a binary of, oh, responsible cdctype policy means you shut everything down. You have to trade off as well how many people are trading a Public Health risk with eviction and not being able to work, as that individual said, since december . Right. And what is being said by dr. Fauci and others, not being listened to by the president , is that of course you dont have to shut down the entire economy, but you do have to perhaps selectively shut down some kinds of businesses in some places for some length of time. Ideally, you want to have as many schools open as you can. Because thats good for the kids. So you should try to do that where you can. But were, you know, this this place is on fire right now. Thats the the problem is that the Trump Administration has been so irresponsible that the that the the reasonable measures that now we should be able to take to control the fall spike of the virus in a lot of places may not be enough and we may have to do more just because its been allowed to get so far out of control. And those long lines that we saw at that food bank, that is the reality for a lot of people in this country. We are in a deep economic crisis, as well as a Public Health crisis. You know, those of us who can work from home and have secure jobs arent feeling it, but a whole lot of the country is. And its its a tragedy. And, of course, the president cares only about himself. So he doesnt seem capable of that sort of empathy. But this is happening in Donald Trumps america. Hmm. Alex . I dont know. I mean, i think we we listen to news about covid every day and we i think its really important that youre playing the visual of people on that food line, ari, because weve lost a sense of, like, weve lost the humanity in the discussion of the numbers. People are dying alone in hospital rooms and saying goodbye to their loved ones on iphones. People are lined up people who have worked all of their lives trying to get food from the government because they cant find jobs. This is the United States of america. And we are out of touch with our suffering. In large part because the president , our leader, has lost all empathy for the human suffering. That occurs on a minute by minute, hourly basis in the middle of one of the worst crises in our history. And i think, you know, one of the things that is incumbent upon joe biden, one of the reasons i do think he was elected, is to restore a sense of shared humanity, because that is the only thing that is going to get us through this. Its not about the economy or Public Health. Those two things are twinned. Until you solve the pandemic, you will never get the economy back on track. And the way to solve that is by realizing and reaffirming that we are all in this together. Yeah. And alex, you lay it out i know youre not a candidate, but you could be, when you lay it out with that much forethought. No, what youre saying is i will never be a candidate. Go ahead. I missed it. Never . Never . 2024. Never. Is that now now i got to go to gene. Gene has the pulitzer so hes better at this than i am. Does that count as breaking news if i got a never from her . Or would she have had to announce for it to be news . I think if she had announced, that would really be news. Im not sure the never is a stop the presses moment. Gene knows how this works better than i do. Im new to it. What i was going to say in addition to the compliment, alex, youre hitting on something that is a point of unity, yes, people want jobs and economic crisis and want to be at safe and not be at risk. Finding the ways to get to that is not a political, polarized thing. Its how do we get back to those solutions. If twitter wants to weigh in on push alex to run. Thanks for kicking us off tonight. Thanks, ari. Appreciate both of you. Coming up after our shortest break of the hour, just 30 seconds. We have tonight obamas new comments on trumpism and trumps ego. A new setback for Rudy Giuliani with a legal challenge with my fact check expert. Good news on the vaccine for the moderna trial. Back in 30. Adam schiff is here on this transition and the intel briefings. 30 seconds. Stay with us. 30 seconds stay with us eway moments. Heres to one more, the lexus december to remember sales event. Lease the 2021 is 300 for 339 a month for 36 months and well make your first months payment. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Whats the proof that Donald Trumps continued resistance and denial over this election and interference with transition is a problem . Well, look to his own top National Security advisers. These are the people he put in charge. They say we are entering a National Security risk. Territory. Bidens not getting the Intelligence Briefings or security clearances for his team. American adversaries dont stop just because were during a transition. Now, heres some of the evidence. Former National Security adviser john bolton says this, quote, harms the country. Trumps own chief of staff john kelly, who you see there, says this whole thing could be, quote, catastrophic. Joining us now is congressman adam schiff. He is the powerful chair of the House Committee on intelligence. Good evening, sir. Good evening. First, big picture, what are the stakes here . Well, in a pandemic that is killing more than 1,000 americans every day, the stakes are enormously high. In the best case, in the best of worlds you have a smooth transition in a peaceful time, but were not in a peaceful time right now, we are in a time where this virus is claiming so many of our fellow citizens. And with, you know, very promises vaccines now on the horizon, you want something seamless. You want to be able to roll that out, bring in the new team that can help organize what that will look like. You also want to make sure that we dont run into shortages of protective gear during this transition. As these hospitals confront this surge. And, finally, ari, it is very possible this new administration as some kind of a National Security crisis in its first weeks. And if Intelligence Briefings would help them see it coming and plan for it, then the absence of those is really a danger to the country. Yeah. I mean, youre speaking to weve lived through i think viewers know there are many things that were traditions, customs that donald trump flouted to varying degrees of pain. This would appear to be one in the sense that theyre getting away with this thus far, but adds you say, the tradition, custom, cooperation of doing this is important, and when it hasnt worked in the past for more legitimate reasons, thats been an issue. I want to read from something thats been going around, the bipartisan 9 11 report, which noted that for unintended consequences, quote, the dispute over the election cut in half the normal transition period, which hampered the new administration. Do you see Something Like that here . The inference there, although no ones saying you could isolate any one variable, but they were saying that the variable of messing with that allotted transition time definitely hampered the understanding and preparation of the new administration for all those threats, which included osama bin laden. Thats unquestionably the case. And if you look at afghanistan, again, there are indications that the Trump Administration may try to precipitously draw down troops in these remaining few weeks. Now, thats not something that he can probably implement in that time, but what he may do is undermine the leverage of the Incoming Administration in any discussions with the taliban. And so there are going to be realworld consequences there, and, of course, one liability we are already seeing, one danger deficit were already seeing is the damage thats being done to our very democracy by the idea being promoted by the president and his acolytes that americans shouldnt rely on this election. That the election of joe biden was somehow tainted by massive fraud. Which is, of course, a completely bogus claim, but undermines our democracy. And not only undermines it here at home, but in the eyes of the rest of the world. What can congress do at least to get the Intelligence Briefings in and that stuff going . You know, my sense is that the pressure is mounting without congress having to act. And, you know, it may very well have the president , if we make a confrontation with congress about this, theres nothing that excites his base more than that. But what were seeing, i think, is already constructive, and that is more and more former Administration Officials like kelly, like bolton, like others are acknowledging the reality trump lost, but theyre also acknowledging the danger in this petulant conduct by the president , that is really is harming our National Security. And i think as those voices multiply, it will put inexorable pressure on the administration to start to brief the new team. But but, look, if it doesnt happen then well have to contemplate what next because we cant leave the country unprotected. Yeah. Its an important issue, among many, during this period. And as the leader of the House Intelligence Committee who has tangled with this president on the ukraine plot, among other things, appreciate you joining us. Congressman adam schiff, thank you, sir. Thank you. Absolutely. We have a lot more on the program. More from president elect biden. Speaking out about the stakes of this and the blocking of covid information as america eyes a vaccine, hope around the corner. Now, what do we know about that . 95 efficacy for one of them. And the second person to ever take it, this is what we call primary experience, joins us live tonight. Im interested in hearing about that. Later, former president obama getting quite candid on trumpism. 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This is a continuing trickle of courtroom failures that have been tied together by the vice edge of this man, trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who is now supposed to lead some new litigation but will work independent of the trump campaigns formal legal operation, which even republicans admit is another sign that trump is giving up on the formal attempt to win cases, and instead turning to a tv lawyer who could just use the theme of court as a foundation for these theatrics. Giulianis definitely already going down that road with outlandish and false claims on fox news this weekend. Now, youre about to hear some of the false claims that we have been fact checking, followed by a legal expert who will further correct them. So just buckle up briefly for this bonkers clip. Hes gotten more evidence of the rigging that went on. Hes really outraged. Its way beyond what people think, including a very, very dangerous foreign company, a company that has close, close ties with venezuela and therefore china. Its a radical left company. One of the people there is a big supporter of antifa. Our votes are sent overseas. This is another attempt to try to defeat him by illegal means. Its no different than the impeachment. Its done by largely the same people. The reference to impeachment is particularly rich because it was the former mayor of ukraines plot that got his client, President Trump, impeached. Then, as now, donald trump is relearning a very old legal concept. Mo giuliani, mo problems. We turn now to former federal prosecutor john flannery, who knows giuliani personally. You can see they worked together in the mid1970s. He has extensive experience as well as advising congressional investigations on these types of issues. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you, ari. Lets start with the giuliani of it. I guess this is where the vaunted legal challenges end. Fittingly, perhaps, not in a courtroom, not in some other method of protest or civil disobedience or anything that may be vaguely civic. Right. But in a fox news green room. Well, thats the safest place to tell lies these days, you know . Faux news maybe you cant say it, but i certainly can, and objectively, if you take that bonkers segment that you just had, he made reference to contacts to venezuela and to strongmen and so forth, and that corporation has none. They reached out for a liberal contributor and tried to merge that together with it. And thats not true. So its always been true, i guess from day one with trump, even as a candidate you couldnt believe what he said, unless he made an admission against his own interests. And Rudy Giuliani has been that and worse. Sort of hes made admissions for other people. And the worst thing we have here is a man who had the capacity as a young man to be a great trial lawyer and a great model for people to understand the law in america. Instead, hes taking the talents hes lost as a young man and distorting and misrepresenting our election process. And hes attacking it with no facts. And any of these actions, judges were lucky to have, who have questioned the facts, you know, was there a person who could observe. Oh, well, yeah, there was and they were closer, but we had other people that we wanted to be present. There are these kinds of contradictions. And then when people are about to come to court and be judged by a judge who is going to ask facts and see if the law fits, they either withdraw the case or its thrown out. So i think the long game here is to undermine our electoral process. And if you think about i mean, you had schiff on here a few moments ago, and i was glad to hear him speak, but if we go back to that, what was trump to do for his puppet master putin . Was it to destroy or to compromise or to harm in any way possible the american principles of justice and law and the constitution . I think so. What does he get out of it . I dont know. Is it defensive or whatever . But if you were to take how hes run this election and how hes failed us in the coronavirus, just the most recent errors, and how hes compromised our society. These are he is the enemy of the people. He is the enemy of the state. And if we had time, he should be impeached so he could never hold office again. And right behind him should be Rudy Giuliani. Who is going into court and apparently there is a conspiracy of a confederacy of dunces who are prepared to tell the most bizarre things to judges in order to distort this process. And it was interesting, in the lawsuit that was filed that is considered frivolous, rightly so, in pennsylvania, they made reference to gore against bush. And its like theyre trying to squeeze what they dont have in fact into some Something Like the question of equal protection in florida, where there was a separation of, i dont know, 574 votes. Whereas we have if i remember correctly Something Like 70,000 spread in pennsylvania, and thats not the only state in which biden is beating his fill in the blank. And so i think what we have here is rudy has proven himself by his different adventures, rogue rudy or silly rudy when hes not protecting his shirt or whatever else hes doing, he is part of this kabul cabal of people who compromise whats best of america and literally support a man who is by doing nothing killing people in america, not protecting us against this virus. So if theres if theres a legal pathogen, its this duo, and if there is one thats true, that is actually killing people, is the failure to act on the coronavirus. I probably went on too long. Im sorry, ari. Dont be sorry. You went from putin to a confederacy of dunces to borat with logic throughout. Seemingly. I cant respond to everything you said, but ill say particularly on the notion of basically trying to instill doubt rather than go somewhere. Yes. If there were widespread voter fraud, that would be bad. If an election right. Were spoiled in some way, we all have an interest i dont care which candidate you might support in dealing with that. But likewise, the false claims in the other direction are bad. I want to play one more bit about giuliani because we just reported how they completely dropped, theyre not even trying to prove the voter fraud there in pa, and yet here he was out selling it. Take a look. They dont allow so should we any republican to inspect. That is illegal, unlawful, against the law. We can prove that 63,02,000 ballots were handled that way. Particularly in philadelphia. If you tell me that philadelphia doesnt cheat in elections, ill tell you youre living on mars. We already have enough affidavits from people who were pushed out of being able to observe now, i just want to be very clear, the banner on the screen is the news. Okay . Everyone can read it. Right. Its very simple. It doesnt involve a judge or a democrat or even any outside party. The trump folks admitted defeat. They dropped that claim. They cant prove 600,000 or 1,000 of those ballots, and yet rudy runs around on tv doing that. Right. My final question to you and were running short on time, though sure. If he said that kind of stuff in court, would he have a legal problem on his hands . Well, yes, absolutely. We call it rule 11, but what it is youre supposed to make representations of facts that are true and law you can argue that are true. In these cases, we have the whothe the whole fa rudy twists these things. I think the notion of attacking our Electoral College system, that people have literally fought to be citizens to have the right to vote, have died fighting to have that right should be compromised by these guys who apparently only can win an election if they can suppress the vote, and thats what this was right before the vote happened and thats whats happening now. Yeah, i think and theyre trying to. I think you make that clear. I am running out of time so i am going to jump in. John flannery, great to see you again, zblir good to see you, sir. Byebye. Absolutely. We have a lot more on the program. Donald trump impeding the tradition, slowing the work on covid, but that doesnt stop this big good news on the vaccine. And we have a very special guest. One of the first volunteers in the successful moderna volunteer trial. Medical expert. Live. And barack obama back going after trump again. Stay with us. 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Today someone who knows all about this, former president obama, who has not always attacked trump, is speaking out on this saying this is denying reality and a lot more. When your time is up, then it is your job to put the Country First and think beyond your own ego. My advice to President Trump is if you want, at this late stage in the game, to be remembered as somebody who put Country First, its time for you to do the same thing. We turn now to brittany pattencunningham, an activist on police reform, who was a member of president obamas 21st Century Policing task force. Thanks for being here. Good to be here. Your thoughts on the way president obama is weighing in on this. As the days go by, i reported earlier tonight, president elect biden speaking to the stakes and president obama clearly deciding its important to weigh in. Well, you know, i read both what barack obama had to say and also what Michelle Obama had to say about this complete and utter lack of respect for the American People. And i will tell you that it is something to watch black people have to leap over our own degradation time and again to save america from itself. That they withheld so much of this for so long knowing that people would not be able to properly digest what they were saying, simply because they were the messengers. To now have to come out and say these things because we are all at great risk watching this man try to continue to steal an election that he lost is really saying something about where we are as a country. Repeatedly america requires black folks to look past our pain and to show up as patriots and thats, frankly, what the obamas are doing right now. They are saying what is necessary. They are saying what is true. They are saying what is right. This transition is urgent. We have a pandemic to get over. We have an economic recession to deal with. We have violence that is happening all over this country from hate crimes to Police Violence that we have to face headon, and we cannot do that when someone is throwing a temper tantrum because they lost the contest. Frankly, i would say hes being childish, but thats insulting to children. At the end of the day, donald trump is the egomaniacal white supremacist we have always known him to be and we have to be very clear what needs to be done to get past this moment and get back to work. I hear you on that. I would say that this is america, but that would be insulting to childish gambino. It might be accurate to precisely what he was trying to say. While were talking about childish tendencies. You mentioned the crosscurrent of race. Im excited to read all of obamas book. Were getting him speaking on it as it comes out. We know from excerpts in interviews what it means to have a backlash to the first black president go towards the bigotry of what is a large animating force of trumpism. Here was the former president on that and trump growing his vote total. Take a look. Were very divided. Its not just the politicians now. The voters are divided. It has now become a contest where issues, facts, policies, per se, dont matter. As much as identity and wanting to beat the other guy. I do think the Current Media environment adds to that greatly. Hes a careful writer and speaker, and he uses the word identity, brittany. A lot of what we have in the actual polling results and walked through it with my viewers is race. Well, its interesting that he uses that word. Especially in a time when people so often try to saddle those of us who are people of color or come from marginalized identities with degrading ourselves and debasing ourselves in this phrase and idea of identity politics. That we simply are unsophisticated, is what they say. But the truth of the matter is, it is folks with marginized identities who showed up and voted for everyones sake and not just our own sake. There is only one racial identity in this country that consistently votes not in favor of all American People but simply of themselves. I think its unfortunate when we continue to see democrats chase that population when we know that they have not actually shown themselves to be loyal to these ideas en masse. And so identity is absolutely the point here. Not the identity of marginalized focused, but the identity of people who are clinging so closely to their privilege, so closely to a supremacist culture that continues to elevate them and push others down. When they cling so closely to that that they are holding on to that, holding on for dear life, trying to make sure that they dont lose. Instead of recognizing that if we share power, everybody actually wins. Identity is entirely the point. It is the lever that donald trump pulled. It is the thing that he played on. It is the thing that he used to make white americans particularly fearful of the future. Creating a future that actually works for all of us does not cost anyone anything except for maybe the myth of supremacy that they have been holding on to for a long time. Right. And to your point, 57 of white americans stood up, went out and voted to try to give him four more years, which is a context to all of this. I got to fit in a break. Ms. Cunningham, thanks for being here. Thank you for having me. Appreciate it. When we come back, lame duck President Trump trying to block covid information, transition materials, and as mentioned, this new vaccine approaching 95 efficacy. Its good news on the horizon. The second person to test it is here next. Its open hey. Think youre managing your moderate to Severe Ulcerative Colitis or Crohns Disease . Are you ok . I did. But even when i was there. 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And that contributes to what were dealing with here, something weve tried to bend over time with Public Health policy, over 247,000 deaths. But there is potential good news on what would be a second potential vaccine. A biotech company, moderna, has finished what is called phase iii of its covid study and they found almost 95 efficacy. The shot also reducing severe cases of the virus. The companys president tells nbc news the first 20 million doses could actually be rolled out as soon as next month. We turn now to something very special that i told you in the beginning of the show we have, Neil Browning is part of this very moderna trial. He is the second person in the world to receive a Covid Vaccine. And he joins us along with dr. Nahid bhadelia, an Infectious Disease doctor at boston medical center. Thanks to both of you for being here. Neil, walk us through when and how you got started with this. Well, it all started eight months ago to the day. I went in to the Downtown Research facility run by kaiser permanente, and they gave me the first injection of this experimental Covid Vaccine for testing. And what did you learn being a part of it about how it works, potential risk, whether it worked on you . So this is something brandnew thats not really ever been done before. Its messenger rna, which is a set of instructions which reprograms your dna in order to take Healthy Human cells and they still function the way they normally would, but from the exterior it builds the spike proteins around them so that they mimic covid19 as a virus. This is intended to trigger an immune response and your body can identify learn how to fight and how to make antibodies that attach to and destroy the covid19 should you ever be in encountering it in wild. When people look at you especially in the earl will stage. People think back to february and march. It was a confusing team. That sounds scary or dangerous, what do you say to them based on your lived experience . Considering im in Washington State we had the first confirmed case. The first confirmed out break and death. It was really something that hit home and personal to me. I have a wife and three girls. I dont want to see anymore suffering sp pain than we have to. Things in italy were spiking bad. Spain was bad. We could see it was impacting the world. As a member of the human race if i can step up and help, its my obligation to do so. Its great. Its so important as there are aspects of this and we have heros in front line workers and nurses and doctors. All sorts of first responders. We of course need people like you. I stress the time period. The earlier it was the more confusing of a time it was. Doctor, your thoughts . I want to start by thanking you for your service. Because the results we see today are promising for three reasons. One is the effectiveness. This is effective as another second candidate that could provide more doses. The trial they had included 42 of the people who got it were people who had comorbidity. Risk factors. And it produced to severe disease in the folks. Both the vaccines are both aimed at that spike protein. Thats the same target the other two working vaccines that are in advance trial are aiming against the same protein. Which tells me maybe fingers crossed potentially we might get positive results there. The last bit, so much easier to produce. The time the china released it to the day the person got the vaccine was 66 days. You dont need cells or eggs. Easier to produce. And being part of this trial and proving Technology Works it keeps us safer from future pandemics. Do you think the Public Health and Public Health communication. We have seen the politicization from the jump. Is it important not only folks see the rates, we can understand 95 . If youre in school. Sounds good. Sounds like an a. Is it important for Public Health communication that the public also sees neil as a guest and ta prop. To see people that it works and its real and you can join in and try it too. If the Public Health guidance will be everyone with rare exceptions get it when available. Thats right. Neil, well be probably picking on you for while. As vaccines roll out. Even before covid19 Vaccine Hesitancy was a top concern. Whats making it worse the hesitancy. This is a long haul in getting the vaccine distributed. The cost of it. The logistics. And the politics unfortunately that were seeing. All of that will between now and then theres a time and remind everybody the darkest months are still ahead of us. Wearing a mask and keep distance. This is coming. Im running out of time, neil, seattle is my hometown. I see the hawks. Sometimes the best offense and a good defense. Anything that works. And the way 2020 has gone if we can kick this out in the end with good news. All the better. Amen. 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