More important. Thats a great point. Usually it is in other countries where you see the family take a bigger and bigger role in government. Weve seen that certainly the last couple years here. I home you have a well earned and nice weekend. You too. Thats a miss the way to say it. Have a great show. Ill go upstairs and watch. Thank you. Welcome to the beat. We track these stories now. Dr. Fauci breaking publicly with a key trump player about the pandemic. We have that. A top doj official brand now out against reports. A story we have later this hour. And all four officers charged in the george floyd case in court today. Prosecutors say they should be tried as one conspiracy. Now, we begin right now with fear and loathing on the campaign trail, to quote hunter s. Thompson. Right now it is also fear and lying. President trump campaigns against blowback for lying about covid both in the past but on through this week. Youre looking at this maga rally in michigan where donald trump was pushing his own supporters to trust that things are getting safer in the pandemic. Now, what drives him to do that kind of thing . As mentioned, well be joined by Donald Trumps niece, mary trump, in a few moments. This is at a time when trumps exposed tragedy of covid deceit is drawing blunt rebuke from dr. Fauci. You said it was time to hunker down. Because the fall and the winter is not going to be easy. The president says weve rounded the final turn. How do you square those two messages . Well, you know, im sorry but i have to disagree with that. If you look at the thing that you just mentioned, the statistics, andrea, theyre disturbing. Were plateauing at around 40,000 cases a day and the deaths are around 1,000. That caseload and death rate, an obvious reminder of why these scandals are not just about history about, what trump knew only in february. Where does the u. S. Go from here in a pandemic could last years . Dr. Fauci also went further than usual, recounting how trump undercut the medical safety warnings previously, just as trump continues to do today. Certainly, there were disagreements, as you know, there were times when i was out there telling the American Public how difficult this is, how were having a really serious problem and the president was saying would it disappear and thats not the case. When you down play something thats really a threat, thats not a good thing. Fauci is famously quite measured about how he navigates disagreements with his boss. Right here you see him leaning on the sad fact it was dr. Fauci, not donald trump, who proved to be right. None of this disappeared. You know that. False information goes further. It can be actively dangerous to your health. So trump continues to spin this situation. Keep in minds the dangers are the back drop. For example, donald trump misleading how the virus here compares to other countries. When you get out to treatment, well, donald trump faces an possibly offering a different approach to health care and trump is just lying about the biden plan. A sign he doesnt think the truth works for him politically on that issue of health care. And then stumping in the midwest with lies about jobs. We have a the beat update. When you take it all together, the president is ending the first week of the official general election. That was this week. I know there is a lot going. On facing a major scandal over his ability to honestly lead in a crisis. The pandemic is not the only crisis right now. There are these historically large wildfire thats continue to rage out west. 15 people have are ready died. A whopping 4 million acres devastated. California as well as oregon where you can see here why the mayor declared a state of emergency. The governor publicly pleading for the Trump Administration to support its governmental emergency response. Officials on the ground say donald trump failing them through inaction. Some critics compare his sort of public denial of even admitting whats going on with the wildfires. The posture to his deceitful approach to covid who reports that things are even worse than all of that. Right wing conspiracy theories supported by donald trump are leading to dangerous activity. Again, were living in a time where misinformation can be dangerous to your health. Officials are warning, theyre getting flooded with false phone calls fann ened which tried to blame it on trumps opponents. Translation. What happens on facebook doesnt always stay on facebook. This is a real world emergency. Propaganda is making it harder for firefighters to get the real information they need as they go out and do the work and risk their lives. Thats why sheriffs departments are pleading with people with messages like this. Stop calling with political pranks. They say it is hampering their band width to respond. It is 2020 so sometimes we have to state the obvious. Do not call 911 with trump fake news propaganda. You have the right to think and say whatever you want including typing it up on the internet. You donal have the right to deceitfully thwart firefighters in the middle of the crisis. From the west coast where these calls have been traced, if you think about it, think about this. Misinformation is expensive and the house you save could be your own. As mentioned, were proud to have mary trump. And we have our guest from go oregon state university. Good evening to both of you. Jason, theres much talk about misinformation and people dont like lying even when it is just verbal, if you want to be that specific. But given these twin crises, with this information. Ari, its massive. Im in california right now and the difficulty, the difficulty that local officials are having in managing people when it comes to these wildfires is immense. It is partially because of qanon. It is partially because the president thumbs his nose at these issues. The rate of destruction thats happening out here. The size of central park is being burned every other day in Northern California and oregon. Central park every other day is being burned, devastated. There is a haze over the sky on a regular basis. At the bottom of a pool you can see ash settling after every single night. The idea that people are wasting Public Resources with crazy conspiracy theories because they think the fires were created by 5g or invading muslims or george soros doesnt help that there are thousands who will be out of their homes or not able to stay safely in their homes during a time of a pandemic where rescuing people and putting them into shelters is all the more difficult so this is propaganda costing lives. When trump lies, people are dying. And the white house has often tried to reposition the covid conversation. And this hit everywhere. Has the global thing. It seems this week there is a rightful focus and scrutiny on the president s leadership, on his honesty, his approach, which is relative about who you want to deal with this crisis or do you want to change the commander in chief. Yeah. The virus has hit everywhere. But my 14yearold daughter is in online schooling here in washington. Her friend in france is in class. Her friend in london is in class. Her friend in china is in class. Her friend in senegal is in class and her friend in germany is in class. Theyre all going to school because their countries have handled this better. Thats a direct comparison. In a globalized world, our children here in the United States, make no mistake about it, theyre losing out. Those other kids are in class going to school and advancing while our kids are not advancing. So were kicking this down to the next generation as well. But we elect leaders to walk and chew gum at the same time. It is totally possible that you can give people the facts, that you can trust the American People with the facts of something as it is and also be inspirational and motivational and lift them one a plan and show leadership. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I think thats what the president is mistaking when he says he didnt want people to panic so he down played the virus. You talk about how that stacks up in a global context, which is very interesting to remember. And then how people are receiving these messages. Reporter jim acosta spoke to some people going to the trump rally. Take a look. Why are you not wearing a mask . Theres no covid. It is a fake pandemic created to destroy the United States of america. Reporter but the president said to bob woodward that there is a virus, the coronavirus, and that it is deadly. Thats his opinion. Where do you start . You start by asking all of our leaders to come out with consistent, clear, accurate, honest messaging. I really felt for Anthony Fauci in that interview. Ive interviewed fauci and he is so careful not to wade into political waters where there will be a difference between him and the president because he said that will be the only story and he is trying to get out the Public Health story. He doesnt want to make it a political story about the disagreement. He clearly feels now he has to set a marker. He has to wade into the politics of this and say no. When the president says we are turning a corner, were not actually turning a corner. Were in it for the long haul. When the president says were turning a corner, that were about to get thoefr or it will imaginally disappear. What happens . That guy doesnt wear a mask when he attends a rally because he thinks its not there. Thats the risk. Go ahead, jason. Yeah, look. Trump can say he sees the light at the end of the tunnel all he wants. It is a train coming at us. We are about to head into fall, flu season. Not only do you have kids going back to school but people who have to shelter in place more, you cant eat outside and that makes this that much more difficult. I think the real danger here is that as we recognize that the president is grotesquely incompetent, right . Hes driven by racial malice and paying off his friends and everything like that. At the base of all this, hes still trying to steal the election with the post office. You have right wing supreme courts in wisconsin trying to, that you have he is still trying to steal the election at the same time you have literally millions of americans who are out of work, who will be out of their homes, who are being evicted which will make it more difficult to actually vote. So as much as the president is a horrible human being, and trying to bankrupt this country and pay of on his friends and stay in office, else doing things, his incompetence has disrupted the ability of regular people to remove him from office in a democratic way. We cant ever lose sight of that. If we cant get rid of him, everything happening now will be ten times worse next 84. Well have you back in show. To many of our viewers, shes an icon and youll be join by other one. Well see you then. Thank you. Absolutely. Joining us now, mary trump, president trumps niece. She warns his election might spell the end of american democracy and shes the author of a best selling book, youve probably heard of it if you watch the news, too much, never enough. How my family created the worlds most dangerous man. You are in a very particular situation that most people probably dont have personal experience with. So i really appreciate what youre doing and speaking out your understanding of the situation, your truth, and making time for us tonight. Thank you for being here. Its so great to be here. Thank you. We were just discussing and the world is dealing with president trumps lies. Your view of whether hes always been this way or it has gotten worse. Your view on why your uncle lies so much. Hes always been this way. It is because of the power he unfortunately wields, and the exponentially greater number of people who listen to him. So the problem is that nobody is holding him to account. Why does he lie . Because he can. He lies because, when he doesnt appreciate the value of the truth, or when the truth doesnt benefit him. So lying serves the same purpose for him it always has. Unfortunately, it is having an impact on an increasingly large number of people. He so i completely understand why people talk about the problem that donald is, he is responsible for death of hundreds, if not thousands of people every day. However, he has so much help that we need to talk directly about the horror that the Republican Party is inflicting upon the rest of us. You mentioned accountability. That has been a big theme and concern in this era. When you were around the family, did you ever see anyone call him out on his penchant, as you put it, for lying, just within family dealings . Never. Never. My grandfather treated donald as someone who could do no wrong, even though at some point he must have known that donald was not particularly intelligent or he didnt have any particular business savvy, because my grandfather supported him with money, power, and connections every step of the way. But the rest us didnt know that. So donald was put on a pedestal that he didnt deserve to be on, of course, but it trained him to believe that he was completely above the fray and beyond any reckoning. Did you ever hear donald, as you put it, say or do anything that suggested an awareness or an insecurity about that . No, never. And that is one of the interesting things about him. Deep, deep down, hes a very insecure person. Hes very afraid. Youre sure of that. Im sorry . Youre sure of that. Yes. Im absolutely sure of. And it explains in part the extreme degree to which he has to convince himself and other people hes always right and always great and always the best. Its really striking, especially given your proximity. As you know and our viewers know, weve been living through a racial reckoning this summer. The roots of it obviously pre date everyone alive right now including the president. Yet he is the leader at this time fomenting so much of it. The way donald trump has discussed these issues, Police Brutality and how they overlamb with race. I said please dont be too nice. Like when you put somebody in the car and you protect their head, the way you put your hand. You can take hand away, okay . Why are africanamericans still dying at the hands of Law Enforcement in this country . So are white people. So are white people. Do you condemn the actions of vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse . That was an interesting situation. He was trying to get away from them, it looks like, and he fell. And then they very violently attacked him. From your family time with him, why does he view the world this way . It suits his purposes. First of all, he is fundamentally a racist. He thinks hes better than the other. He grew up in a racist family with a racist father but beyond that, donald thrives in chaos and division and he will, because he is so weak and incompetent, pick the lowest common denol nightor. And in this country, special when i someone with the access to power that he has, that means creating strife between black americans and white americans and making his followers feel that theyre superior because like him, you know, they dont have a lot going for them, im sorry to say. I dont understand why this is something that continues to surprise people. Donald has been showing his stripes since the early 70s. What did he in the 1980s with the central park five was so vile that he should have never been allowed in Polite Society with that. And let me press you. I want to press you because it is so difficult to talk about ones own family. In your open words youre saying you grew up in the family thats racist. Does that mean you view him in the central of that average, if you will . Or do you feel the way he was and grew to be was more racist, more hateful, more bigoted than perhaps just the environment he was in . I think that, i dont think my family was, they werent veer le lently racist. And i dont know if donald trump would be if it werent expedient to get what he wants, to sow division. He thinks it goes to his base, it will keep him in power and it makes help feel like a tough guy. But the things he says z gets ay with, not one elected republican speaks out. And again, why we are where we are. If theyre not going to hold him accountable, how can anyone else . In my view right now, the entire party is the problem and hes just being allowed to sow division. I think it is a smoke screen, you know, for whatever is going on. I heard Jason Johnson say that donald is trying to steal the election and i agree with that. I would say even more pointedly, hes already cheated. Hes cheating right now by dismanhuntling sorting machines and calling into question an election in which not one vote has been cast and telling people voting by mail is suspect somehow in the middle of a pandemic in which he is responsible for the deaths of over 185,000 people. I mean, quite honestly, it is a little hard to take at this point. As we saw at the beginning of your show, it is more every day. The things you talked about could have happened in a year and they happened in a matter of two days. I think youre making sole important points about the way these things happened and the collective bomb of other individuals and institutions. Would you stay with us . We have our shortest break, 30 seconds. Will you stick around for a little more . Of course. Well be back in 30 seconds with mary trump. Ck in 30 seconds with mary trump. We got no free pass. Everything we have, weve earned. The unmistakable lexus is. Get zero percent financing on the 2020 is 300. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Welcome back to the beat. I am here with mary trump. Thanks for being with us. My pleasure. We also have seen this Public Health issue around the lies with covid. I think we have, and if we do, i want to play. Let me just read some of what the president said. The woodward tape as i think everyone has heard it now is striking for proving something. You know donald trump will you described him as your uncle being a racist and a liar. Other people can draw their own views. But to be fair on any specific issue like covid, thinking someone is like and proving it is different. In court, there is a high bar for that. Donald trump owned himself with his own evidence when saying, its more deadly than even a quote, strenuous flu. And then weeks after that saying this is just like the flu. And those contrasts go back and forth. When you see that, what do you think is important for americans to know . And what do you understand from being around him about something that even by a low bar, seems extreme. Which is knowing how bad something is as a risk to people and giving them misinformation that puts their health at risk. If being honest about Something Like that in his view hurts him somehow, or makes him seem weak or associates him with an illness or a failuretion he will lie about it. And the thing with donald is a lot of times, he knows very well when hes lying. And yet has absolutely no trouble a minute later, a month later, three months later, totally contradicting himself if it suits him in that particular moment. So there is no logical consistency. The consistency is always, he will do and say whatever he feels he needs to in order to benefit somehow even if tens of thousands of americans die. When you saw him at earlier points in his life, did you find that he was as effective and endeared so much of a loyal following with these tactics that you say are basically unchanged or hardened as compared to what hes done now politically . I think it was a similar mechanism. He is superficially charming. If you just met him you would find him relatively charlieing and thats enough for some people to be fooled by. Plus the myth. About earlier that my grandfather perpetuated. That hes so rich, so smart, hes a selfmade man. And the glitz in the media in 1980s new york to furnish that image and draw more people in. There are similar parallels because there are always people not taken in by him. So we see it on a nationwide level. Obviously the consequences are much more serious. Hes doing what hes always done. Hes broken fundamental rules of politics and public life about what do you when youre caught redhanded or saying and doing things at least fracture the value system that youve said you follow, or that your supporters claim to follow. And you write about this. You say, donald takes any rebuke as a challenge and doubles down on the behavior that drew fire in the first place. As if the criticism is permission to do worse. Given your psychological insights, i wanted to drill down on that. What do you mean by subverting or reversing the criticism and making that the permission structure to go further than what you were initially criticized for . Sure. It is a really interesting point and it helps explain a lot, i think. Being criticized, the implication is that you were wrong somehow. So accepting that criticism means admitting you were wrong. That was not allowed in my family. My grandfather hated weakness and unfortunately being kind, admitting mistakes, and owning up to them were weak knows. So donald learned that lesson very clearly and unfortunately my grandfather also ran the family as a zero run game which meant there could only be one winner and donald trump was determined that could only be him and he had permission to do whatever he needed to do. Whether it was lying, exaggerating, et cetera. So being criticized is to double down on your original mistake or lie because otherwise youre considered weak. Thats the thing that maybe terrifies him more than anything else. I understand the type of logic or perverted logic when you put it like that, which is very interesting. Although people can see how limiting that is. Youve been generous with your time. I only have 30 seconds left. The last question is the most fundamental. For people who say they have a view of this election or theyre concerned about donald trump. But america is strong and well get through it either way. Being so close to this, you say what . I say that as he very sick man, hes never going to get better, hes only going to get worse. If it suits his purposes, he will take this entire country down with him and he clearly has a lot of people willing to do just that. Please vote carefully. Mary trump, thank you for being able to spend time with us tonight. I do appreciate it. If youre looking for it, the book is too much and never enough. How my family created the worlds most dangerous man. We fit in a break here. We have a lot more ahead including breaking news late today. A top doj official out raising new questions about bill barrs probe that tries to undercut what mueller found. Stay with us. Stay with us pnc bank believes that if you can get a pair of goggles that helps you master your backhand. Then you should be able to get a bank account that helps you master your budget. Virtual wallet® for Digital Banking from pnc. 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We wont do anything inappropriate before the election, but were not being dictated to with the schedule. What is dictating it are the developments in the case. I am thrilled to tell out this breaking news, were joined by Michael Schmidt. You may recognize him from msnbcs airwaves. More importantly, he is a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who has broken so many of the stories weve relied on in the mueller frlg could co. He has a new book out, donald trump, the United States inside the struggle to stop a president. Thank you for making time on the beat. First, your book and the context what it means to have this context of the barr ordered russia probe sequel having this resignation with this kind of reporting a rumor about the reason. At the most fundamental level, this underscores the problem with the president and the attorney general talking about investigations. They have stoked it so much and built it so much on the right. If there is any type of development in it like this, it is looked at as potentially problematic. And we know that there has been pressure from the president on his attorney general specifically on this investigation. And we know that bill barr has followed what donald trump wants more than any of his previous attorney generals, and his previous fbi director jim comey. So thats the situation we have here as we look at this news. And as you say, the context is the history in the past, particularly with the attorney generals unusual public statements. The past is the subject of this book which people are interested in. This is a passage from one of the ways you go through probe that so many remember. You talked about how trump told his white house counsel, don mcgahn, there was nothing to worry. About he would settle the case as if he were negotiating terms in a lawsuit. Interesting new details from behind the scenes. What does that reveal and what do you think your book shows about this pivotal period . There is a theme that runs through the Trump Presidency that i capture in the book about the president not understanding how washington functions. Whether it was early in the presidency when he didnt know what the filibuster was, early in the presidency when he wanted to do things and was told, you need congress form. He says lets just do it and they can sue us. Or whether it was staring down an existential threat in the mueller investigation, a criminal investigation, and saying that if it got close to him, he would settle. The president has a fundamental misunderstanding of washington. Unlike his predecessors, he has not changed his behavior because of that. He is trying to bend washington to his will. Hes been undeterred. Yeah. And what you show, which is objective so people can draw their own conclusions is, he had this approach. In some ways, it violated norls, it defied expectations and weve featured many people including some early in the program who talk about why thats so wrong. On the other hand, the things did he that were technically legal may expose problems in the system and democracy has to decide whether those things maybe should be illegal, should be crimes. . I think the objective reporting for people who care a lot about that. Thank you for coming on the beat, sir. Thank you for having me. The new book if you want to get it. Donald trump versus the United States by Michael Schmidt is out now. Up ahead, another important story. You may feel like we have a lot of them tonight. This is new. A man linked to Rudolph Giuliani literally exposed as an active russian spy. I have that for you coming up. And them later, thrilled to tell you, leon talley is back for fallback friday. Back for fallback friday. Of knowing that important things like your prescriptions, and ballots, are on their way. 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He is labeled as, quote, an active russian agent for conduct going back over a decade. You cant get. Clearer than that. Some of this appears to have been facilitated like so much these days, on camera. In fact, earlier this year on the beat we did an senate intelligencive report about a conservative media outlet, oan. And what they were doing with Rudolph Giuliani going to ukraine and why they were putting out this programming about it. Whether it was false or true, political propaganda. Rudy giuliani, you can see it labeled russian agent, and the anchor openly talking about what they were doing. Trying to find negative information true or false, whatever, to hurt the bidens. This was before trump was impeached for part of this plot. We sat with him for over three hours. We asked about burisma. Joe biden and hunter biden popped up. Tell us how their names are involved in these criminal cases you were looking into . Derka. Was at length talking about the political context in which burisma was operating. That tape looks even worse now and the revelation comes after an internal whistleblower saying Trump Officials are trying to knee cam any factual reporting about russias ongoing meddling. Apparently, well stay on that story. We have a lot more on the Program Including as promised, what a way to end the week. Andre leon talley when we come back. Talley when we come back for bathroom odors that linger try febreze small spaces. Just press firmly and it continuously eliminates odors in the air and on soft surfaces. For 45 days. You push the limits. You defy convention. You turn every ask into an answer. Because those who set the standard, reserve the right to raise it. The ram rebel, ram power wagon, and the allnew ram 1500 trx. Why more ford and chevy owners are switching to ram than ever before. The power has shifted. Its friday on the beat and that means its time to fall back. We have a special duo, fashion icon and a celebrated journalist, long time vogue editor, andre leon talley. He has collaborated with countless innovators. He was dubbed one of the most famous people in fashion by the New York Times and the mandela of couture in his memorable 2018 documentary, the gospel according to andre. Hes like a black super hero. Like mandela of couture. The kofi annan of what you got on. He was so many things he was not supposed to be. You dont say im black and im proud. You just do it. For the culture, and hes now out with a new book, the chiffon trenches. And our friend who got her start in as a zimbabwe correspondent for bbc news where she is now an anchor, and the best selling author of the confidence code and womenoconics. Great to see you both. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having me. Im happy to be here. How are you doing, andre . How are you doing during this period . Im great. I actually like sheltering in and being at home. Social distancing is perfect for me. Im a recluse reading books, looking at old movies. Its funny. Youre fun to look at. Youve been seen on the scene, but some people may not know you like your down time. I love it. This summer ive been reading books. Every morning i get up i sit on my porch and ive been trying to read one book or two. All these people on msnbc and, ms. Katey kur, i have to get your book. Ive got all the books msnbc is pushing and i love them. I have to note in a fashion icon segment i dont know if you guys plan td but you both have beautiful shades of yellow going. I would call this mustard. I would call katies shade mutard. No woman should have to do that on a friday. Youre wonderful. I watch you all the time on morning joe. Youre a regular on that show. I watch everything on msnbc. Im hooked. We love that, and i think, look, for those of us who are staying at home more maybe being home with andre is an in operation to make us feel like a night out. It is fall back friday. Whats on your list, andre . Theres this designer of fine jewelry in israeli i think, and he came up this mask worth 1. 5 million in gold and diamonds. Now, i think this would be the perfect mask for the dude at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and the first lady because they have to have everything big and gaudy. Diamonds and plat fm. So they could both have one mask each, and they could loan it out to ivanka and jared, and they could walk through the rose garden on night promenades you know midnight promenades in the garden she refurbished, but it would be maria antoinette. I would love to see them have that mask, acquire it and have it on air force one and it would be taken off at maralago, and they could also walk around maralago with the mask on. Ive heard of fan fiction. This is fashion fiction, but what do you think of the bejewelled mask . I have a small problem with a mask costing quite that much money when so many people have lost their jobs because of the reason were having to wear that mask. But, listen, it might suit mr. Trump very well. I could see the bling factor going well. Maybe it was just late, and had they brought that out in february when he was admitting his lies to bob woodward, it would have sweetened the deal for him. Absolutely, without question. Get him a diamond mask and of course hell put it on. Im reminded of the biblical story, andre, where the young baby moses is going towards the shiny diamonds and the pharaoh thinks that means hell be a threat toward the kingdom, so the Guardian Angel pushes him towards the hot coal because babies like some call the person in the white house, they like shiny things. I want to ask you a serious fashion question while ive got you on covid, which is is it a good thing we are seeing at an affordable level the designers and others use the mask for a fashion statement, embrace the mask . It is very important that, you know, there are people who have wardrobes of masks, and it works. I want to cite nancy pelosi because her masks are always coordinated perfectly to her outfit, the color. And i think a person who has a choice of masks, it only elevates your day and masks that say statements or word messages. Ive waited to get my mail by email or sent to me. It comes from san francisco, and i can wash it and put it on. Look, it matches my caftan, look. So you have to have a variety. And katie, i know you probably have a variety of masks. Im not going for the dime pd gold mask, that is something for the trumps. Youre right. Its a great way to use up bits of fabric. You can use all those bits of fabric you have lying around. And i give caddy the last word on this and people do want to fit in, be cool, have expression, can we find ways to do that in what is obviously a tough year . Yeah, i mean, the problem is im talking to you from my basement, right, well its my incentive i love the fact andre has done it, im going to be sitting at home with the gazillionth time with my kids at home. I have to drag myself out of my basement, and find something to wear tonight. I love seeing you guys together. Good to see you, sir. Thank you, katie. Thank you, harry. You bet and the book is the chiffon trenches. Check it out, and well be right back. N trenches. Check it out, and well be right back were here to listen and provide solutions that help you run your business better. Because the decisions you make have far reaching implications. And a relationship with a Corporate Bank like pnc can provide just what you need. As one of the nations largest banks, pnc brings customized insights and a local approach. 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