Continuing to keep this on the front burner. This has also been a day of mourning and remembering the life of george floyd. He was killed in Police Custody in minneapolis. It is his death, as you know, that sparked this movement. First there, and quickly around the continue and on around the world. Weve seen solidarity marches and disparities really joined by people all over the globe. This memorial drew Civil Rights Activists, members of congress, people in arts and culture, and at the core of it, of course there is still a real family, real loss, a family grieving the loss of a son and a father. Everywhere you go and see people how they cling to him. They wanted to be around him. When you spoke to george, they felt like they were the president because thats how he made you feel. Everything he told us, he was teaching us how to be a man because he was in this world already before us. And he gave us a lot of great lessons. Everybody want justice. We want justice for george. Hes going to get it. Hes going to get it. As this memorial was happening in minneapolis, one thousand miles away, floyds brother leading a vigil in honor of his late brother in brooklyn. Im proud of the protest, but im not proud of the destruction. Im going to say that again. Im proud of the protests, but im not proud of the destruction. My brother wasnt about that. And that is part of the work thats being done. Were seeing the memorial and the activism. There is also the signs of change occurring. Three former Police Officers, it was just yesterday that they were charged with murder. Theyre now making their first Court Appearance. Their attorney is offering a preview of what we may expect in their defense, which of course in our system of justice, we have every right to make their legal defense. One of these officers attorneys said that he told his own fellow officers, quote, you shouldnt do this. Another update down in georgia. The suspects accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery also had their Court Appearance today. We can tell you the details emerging from that case are things you need to know. A special agent testifying that the shooter used a racial, racist slur after shooting arbery dead. So were talking about someone saying that as he lay dying. Were not repeating the slur obviously in our news coverage. A federal investigation into possible hate crimes continues. You dont need to be a lawyer to know that slur contributes to a days this in addition to a potential murder, it was also a potential hate crime. Here is the investigator saying arbery was being pursued. Arbery was suffering from mr. Arbery. I believe mr. Arbery was being pursued and he couldnt run anymore and he turned back to the man with the shotgun or fight with his bare hands against the man with the shotgun. He chose to fight. Thats an update to several of the stories were tracking. As we do here on the beat, we have several angles, including some history for you later in the show. But we begin with whats happening on the ground. Msnbcs Steve Patterson is in minneapolis. Steve . Ari, if you thought that the reams or the enthusiasm or the activism was going to be dying down or waning a little bit, after the last ten day, youd be dead wrong. Take a look at this. I know youve seen the scene before. This was the scene where george floyd was killed. We see this growing memorial, growing sort of activism spring up out of this. Its only gotten bigger as the week has gone on. The speedway over here, im sure youve seen this before, has turned almost into its own village. There is a stage behind me. People are putting their fists up. Weve been seeing this as that memorial, that somber memorial was playing out as well. You know, just a while ago as well, reverend Jesse Jackson was on stage here. I saw reverend al speaking while that memorial was going on earlier. So thats two different legendary civil rights speakers. Im in a crowd during a time of civil unrest. Thats the kind of day im having. But two powerful moments i wanted to highlight at that memorial. Again, very somber, but i think the two moments actually spoke to how uncomfortable it was and for a reason. The first one was the attorney for the family, ben crump. He was reading the names of just about every black person that was killed from civil unjustice over the last, i dont know, five or ten years. It was so long that people started to look around and wonder what was going on. And the second one was those eight minutes and 46 seconds where everybody was silent. At first it felt like something as solidarity. But by the end, it was so uncomfortable because it felt so long. And to think that this is how long that Prosecutor Says that knee was on that neck is unbelievable. Two powerful moments from that memorial. As we saw George Floyds casket, him being wheeled out. And to the sound of protesting to the sound of people who were upset, instead of to the sound of what you might think, which might be somber sort of emotions or gospel music, very energetic, very somber scene. But, again, it sort of spoke to the fact that is all about civil justice. Back to you. Thank you. Were going to keep an eye on minneapolis. We want to turn immediately to los angeles. Members Jacob Soboroff has been covering that out on the ground today. What have you been seeing . Hey, ari, you know, this has been a really interesting 24 hours in los angeles. The mayor, the city council, the Police Commission and now response to the protest weve been seeing play out over the course of the last week that they are going to take 150 million out of the Los Angeles Police department and real locate it towards programs that benefit the African American community and communities of color. What were seeing here right now is that fight, the fight weve been seeing on the streets is a long way from over. This is a march for the Latinx Community to express solidarity not only with black lives matter, but other causes around the city of los angeles. We all marched about a mile down through northeast los angeles. Come with me. Im going take you inside here at the Community Garden where were seeing together here with black lives matter. Sorry to jump on you like that, but were live on msnbc. What are you doing here . Supporting the black lives matter movement. And what compel youd to come out and particularly this message of unit between the Latinx Community and black lives matter . I put you on the spot, but the reality is, dont worry. You every come out to a protest like this before . Yes, its my third one. What are you feeling out here . Its really nice to see all these people getting together and supporting the black lives matter movement. Im really sorry to put you on tv like that. Nice to meet you. There is an interconnected. Theyre talking about abolishing about at the same time talking about defunding the lapd. Like reverend al said, the metaphor of the knee on the neck, its felt out here. Its felt out here in multiple way, not just the system iic racism of policing. This is a very peaceful demonstration out here in northeast l. A. Jacob soboroff on the ground. Thanks to all our reporters on the ground. Be safe. Were tracking all these protests. Join me is Civil Rights Activist and black lives matter organizer dre mckesson. He is the author of freedom the case for hope. And joining us is zellner marie. He posted this photo recounting how he himself, an elected official and a person at a protest found himself pepper sprayed and then handcuffed by police. Thanks to both of you for being here. Senator, what happened . I went down to the protests in brooklyn in solidarity and as a fellow black person in this country. I knew the rage and the hopelessness and the sadness that we were feeling about Police Brutality an thought it would be important to be present and also to be a liaison between Law Enforcement and the protesters. And even my title, my pedigree, the fact that i had a neon green shirt with my name and title on the back of it didnt save me from being brutalized by the nypd. We were compliant. We were moving back as ordered, and we started getting it in the back with bicycles pushed and shoved and ultimately pepper sprayed and handcuffed. 4. When you were then taken into that custody, did you identify yourself as an elected official . I identified myself throughout. In fact, i let Law Enforcement know that i was coming to the protest about an hour before i arrived. I was joined by my colleague in the assembly, Assembly Member diana richardson. Both of us identified ourselveses when we got on the scene to those who were in charge, and even that couldnt stop us from becoming victims. And this is what i wanted to join you out on. Just because of your story, obviously, an unlawful arrest is just that period, regardless of the identity of the individual. But there were other categories that were historically before this current rear generally more supported. Were looking at here viewers seeing so viewers can see you in that arrest. Weve seen normalizing of attacks and arrests and intimidation tactics against some of those categories, which would include elected officials like yourself. Journalist, whatever organization they may work for. Do you view this as part of that effort . Do you think donald trump has fomented it . And do you see your arrest as unlawful . Well, certainly the current occupant of the white house has trafficked in hateful language. Its something he enjoy, he relish, and quite frankly, the only thing he has been good at. But this has preceded the president. We have seen Structural Racism in both parties. Does not have a partisan bent, although my friends on the other side of the aisle have seen more political rewards for it, we have seen this since this countrys inception. And Police Misconduct has its roots in brutality from our slave patrols to our slave codes to the jim crow laws to the black codes, and certainly now with the lack of accountability for Police Departments all over the country. Appreciate that, and appreciate your nonpartisan and nuanced view of really the larger roots. Duray, weve talked about individual incident, Structural Racism and the fundamentals. As you join our broadcast tonight, what is on your mind . Just picture living through all of this and having worked on it for a long time . Well, state senator, im sad that the nypd brutalized you, and its a reminder that the nypd settles 200 million worth of cases every year. The highest has been about 300 million in recent years, which is wild. And de blasio has not done much to rein in the nypd. When i think about today, i think about the solutions. I think an incredible set of actors who were pushed around defunding the police. When we think about that, that really is a simple notion. Its an idea that experts should do what experts do. When we think about the experts to deal with Mental Health issue, thats not the police. When you think about the experts to deal with family issues, thats not the police there is a host of things that we actually the police assigned to that is really not the work of the police. So part of what we need to do is demand that we take those responsibilities away from the police, and we also permanently take that funding away from police. And thats actually how we make communities safer and give communities the resource they need in the other ways we reduce the power of the police immediately. We started a campaign so that we can get these eight policies enacted in cities across the country. Because mayors have the policy do it. And it would reduce the power of the police today. This is a both and strategy. We want to shrink the role of the police, shrink the money, shrink the responsibilities and reduce the power immediately, both and at the same time. And a couple of things. I want viewers to understand were keeping an eye there on the memorial in minnesota. Some of the family members showing up. Well keep an eye on that and go in and out as warranted. Thats more of a housekeeping know. Duray, to your policy managed, one can make a vague aanalogy to debates in the federal government whether you want the military making a lot of calls or other parts of the government. So when you bring in a diplomat to start a conversation, youre already in a different footing. It doesnt mean that you have no right as a government to ever also use the military. But who you send to the meeting in the first place does matter. And what youre referring to, something weve discuss heard on the program is how many again, its all local. How many different Police Departments in different cities lead with, begin with a police decisionmaking process . So if you put more police in the schools, youre going have more 10yearolds arrested. As a society, do we think policing is the first approach to when a 10yearold gets into, yes, another dispute with another 10yearold at lunch, or 8, or 6. Im sure everyone can pick an age to find leading with police to be problematic, before you get into the disparities how often that is overenforced against black americans. Im curious. First to deray and then the senator. What does it look like to turn these protests about all of these issues into what youre calling a more structured Police Reform in different places around the country . I think its already there. I think the demands have already emerged. I think people already turned into structural issues. We learned a lot from 2014, right . In 2014 we were just learning what solutions are. By now, people know. People understand what it looks like. When we think of this defund strategy or this idea of shrinking the police, that is rooted in the idea that you cant feed the beast and expect to it shrink. Part of it is you have to stop feeding the monster. One of the things that has happened in the past couple of weeks is everything has seen the violence on tv. Weve seen the Police Attack senators. Weve seen the Police Attack reporters. There were people in 2019 saying i must have been democratic. This moment is laying all of that bare again. It all makes sense. Senator, your reaction to this same question, but also as we look at the floyd family there gathering so far quietly, be new that site, i want to play for viewers what we gathered earlier in the day speaking at the memorial. Take a listen. It was not the coronavirus pandemic that killed george floyd. I want to make it clear, on the record. For those that have agendas that are not about justice, this family will not let you use george as a prop. Senator . I think what we just heard was the fact is we have to remain focused on the message and not the method. Those who are opposed to reforming Law Enforcement would like for us to focus on the violent elements and the disruptive elements. But the truth is this is about Police Brutality. A lot of folks say well, this is just a few bad apples and its not a systemic problem. Black communities have 99 issues and a bad apple isnt one. There is no accountability for Police Misconduct. We see there no justice. And its precisely why were seeing there is no peace. Senator myrie, these are serious times. If you represent new york, thats going to have to be acknowledged in the broadcast. I had to make sure that that was done. I knew i was coming on a hiphop band show. So i wanted to make sure we rep brooklyn correct. I appreciate you representing brooklyn, as they say, in more than one way. And for viewers who arent as privy as the senator, what jayz and so many others were talking about with bars and music and lyrics and poetry, but also the reality documenting so much of these same issues all the way back. So i think it is in my person opinion quite well applied, senator. And deray, you can bring bars the next time or not. Thats a personal call. Yes, sir, dur duray and senator, thank you. Were going to it in in a break. There is a new retired general warning trump is actually endangering the way democracy functioning in this country. Its a serious warning. We want to bring to it you tonight. Later, a very special guest on what government leaders who actually do if they get an unlawful order to abuse people in custody. And were going to show row youve how Donald Trumps support is plunging in some key states. This relates to the violence and the racial strife. 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Protesters are encountering armed Law Enforcement officers who dont even show agency ids. Some in congress expressing alarm at this socalled american secret police. Our nations capitol is being patrolled by federal law officers demanded by President Trump and attorney general barr. Who refuse to identify who they are and where they come from. What is President Trump doing to this democracy . And a new patterning from people within the military itself, people with real experience. Former general john allen who fought against isis now saying trumps call to use troops enns citizens could be, quote, the beginning of the end of the american experiment. We turn now to professor christina greer. Your thoughts on what this means. Well, its quite frightening and alarming, ari, but many of us have been ringing this alarm since trump got elected in 2016. Im glad that senator schumer has decided to speak out against this. But we knew from day 1 that donald trump did not understand or respect the role of executive. We knew he had a congress that would actually go in lockstep and the republicans in congress would go in lockstep with all his bishops and demands. And sadly, we have a Supreme Court that seems to be willing to do the same thing. Well see washington, d. C. Under a police state. Keep in mind washington, d. C. Does not choose governors or senators. There are certainly ways certain laws in dealing with d. C. But we also know this is a visual president. He likes to have this big man strength. He likes to show force within the military. And sadly, if were looking at how other regimes have done this over time, we should be very concerned about november 3rd and how this president will translate his rhetoric into real action to make sure that democracy is not equitable across cross the United States. Christina, can you walk us through when it comes to Civil Liberties and the Excessive Force against dissent, it seems to come up the most historically and again now against people advocating for equal and civil rights for black americans . I mean, this country, you know, is having a such a difficult moment understanding whats happening right now because weve never actually had a real reckoning of what has happened. Over time, over generations. And we dont even need to go back to 1619. We can think about how fdr allocate, you know, issues and resources within the new deal. We can see the struggles that lbj had trying to get the Civil Rights Act passed of 1964. There is an antiblack racism that is in the soil of this nation. And until we actually come to grips with that, we cant move forward. Right. There is lots of things that marginalize people, lots of things that happen to people of color writ large. But there is something very specific about this nation and its relationship with black americans in particular. Right. What were seeing across cities and towns all across all 50 states is anguish and pain and their allies recognizing that we have not ever been seen as full citizens. And thing that happen to us and our children on a daily basis just dont happen to any other community, by the police state, by the officials we will pay taxes to. When you put it like that, it helps everyone understand this is the response. Professor greer, good to see you again back on the beat and well be seeing you again i imagine. Yes indeed. Take care. Thank you. We have a 30second break. When we come back, what do you do if youre in government and get one of these unlawful orders to do Police Brutality . We have a special report on that in 30. I didnt do it. 1 stain and odor fighter, 1 trusted. Its got to be tide. For spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub . Grubhubs gonna reward you for that with a 5 off perk. doorbell rings [crowd] grubhub fireworks exploding we want to turn to something very important right now. A big question hanging over these controversies is what are people on the inside actually supposed to do . What do police do if they are told to use Excessive Force . What do people in the federal government do if the president tells you, yes, rough up some detainees . When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough. I said please dont be too nice. 2this that was the president addressing his employees and police in 2017. But then something important happened. We actually saw, whether you remember it or not, im going to show it right now, an example of one way that people in government who have, yes, have boss, have jobs, how they can stand up to what was there. I can tell you an unlawful suggestion. A the time the acting head of the dea broke with his boss, the president and did something important, sending new guidance to an entire agency, the dea, warning against what trump seemed to be asking for, and telling his own employees we must earn and keep the public trust and continue to hold ourselves to the very highest standards. That is one way to take on your boss in the service of reminding your own employees not to rough up suspect, which of course is also literally against the law. That same official later made a move way had an obvious personal and professional cost. A senior official in the Trump Administration has just resigned, and the resignation is apparently in protest against this president. His name is chuck rosenburg. Having rosenberg become convinced that President Trump has little respect for the law. This is a big deal. That was a big deal that was 2017. That was an individual with a lot of federal experience who at the time may not have been known to news viewers all over the country. He did that because he said and wrote at the time it was necessary to uphold the law. Thats one dayway to deal with this. And that individual is someone that if you watch this channel, this newschannel, youll be familiar with because after leaving federal government he has beeninvisible to us. He is one who does not draw a lot of attention to his history. You didnt know we fut that together. I dont mean to put you on the spot. I did want to dig into it, sir. Nice to see you. Nice to see you, ari. Why was it important to do your stuff then and let your own staff know what the rules were and how does that apply to the people in leadership in federal government, police or federal . I believe the men and women of the fda, the fbi and federal Law Enforcement know the rules and they abide them. But its also important for leaders to articulate the rules to set the tone from the top. Look, we have lots of obligations to the american people, to the men and women we lead, but we only have one oath, to support and defend the constitution. If at the very top there is a suggestion, an impetus, a notion that were going to harm people in our custody, were going to hurt them, were going to violate their civil rights, really, its not that complicated, ari. Either you do it, which is unlawful, or you leave, which is actually relatively easy. And so i left. I didnt want to be a part of it. I had served under president bush. I had served under president obama. I have Great Respect for those of those men. But i could not countenance what the president was saying in that speech to Police Officers in july of 2017. It is fundamentally at odds with our obligation to take care of people in our custody. How was it received when you said no to what the president had said publicly, and as i mentioned to officers in attendance, and you said this is how the rules work. How is that received . Not well. Well, it depends on who youre talking about. Some of my supere years were not at all pleased. I would say they were not enthralled. It was clear that i had to leave the post, which was fine. I understand what the consequences of speaking out might be. One piece of advice lets pause on that. You just said something. That i think everyone around the country listening would go wait, that sounds like a bad sign. You stupid and said we are an honorable profession, should we just act honorably. Dont rough people up. And you just told us some of your superiors into the trump issue, that alone was a problem. It seemed to be. I dont know that they disagreed with what i said. I think theyre unhappy that i said it. Look, you can also ignore the president. Its not that hard to do these days. So maybe their feeling was i shouldnt have said anything at all and well just go about our business and take care of those in our custody. Thats a possibility, ari. You would need to ask them. But my view is that the tone comes from the top, and you simply cant countenance that type of talk from the president of the United States. And if the advice you wanted to share . Yeah. A professor who once told me dont ever hire somebody for a job who desperately needs it. You need the detachment. You need the ability to walk away. In all of these jobs, there is sometimes that you fundamentally disagree with a policy. Thats okay. It happens all the time. But if you fundamentally disagree if w a view from the top, if you are asked to do something unconstitutional or unlawful, or somebody tugts that is okay, you know its not. Look, its a very personal decision. People make these decisions all the time. Im not here to advise other people on what they should do. But for me, i couldnt stay. Its an important piece of recent history that is so applicable now. Chuck rosenberg, thank you for your service. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you for having me. 100 . Protesters are gathering for a tenth straight night. New signs that trumpism is on the run. Well explain when we come back. Right now is a time for action. Thats why usaa is giving Payment Relief options to eligible members so they can pay for things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. Discover all the ways were helping members today. Are made with farm grownal apples as the first ingredient. And key nutrients you want. So you can have a daily multivitamin free of stuff you dont want. One a day Natural Fruit bites. A new way to multivitamin. Were pretty different. Somos muy diferentes. Muy diferentes. vo verizon knows everyone in your family is different. 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And until this fight is over, we. Will. Never. Quit. Because they never quit. Were tracking protests that are heading into their tenth straight night. Meanwhile, barack obama and john lewis speaking out about what these protests reveal and what they show about a new generation thats demanding a reckoning on racial justice. You look at those protests and that was a far more representative prcross section america out on the streets, peacefully protesting. Ive been so moved and so inspired by seeing hundreds and thousands of people, black, white, latino, asian american, native american, men, women, people from different background, from all over america. Were joined now by jameel smith. He is a Senior Writer with rolling stone. His latest piece, american plague that explains so much in america and much that needs to change. Good evening, sir. Good evening. When you look out at these protests heading into their second week, maybe a third week, when you see president obama, who i would argue is not known to incredibly emotional or hyperbolic, i wouldnt say thats his thing or how he talks tell america this is to him the greatest social movement of his lifetime, do you agree . And what do you see out there . Well, far be it for me to compare what hes seen. But certainly were seeing something that sun like anything weve seen certainly within the last seven to eight years since the inception perhaps of black lives matter movement. Were seeing people on the street who may not have been previously inclined, first of all to march, but also were seeing them do so really literally at the rick of their own lives. Were in the midst of a coronavirus that is still raging right now. And it has no treatment. It has no cure. And were seeing people essentially risk their lives to plead for our lives. And i think there is certainly some poetry in that. But really, moreover, were seeing folks say that its time for us to be, you know, held accountable for our privilege, for our station in life. Its time for us to put action behind our words. And it goes beyond sharing a people or, you know, searching for cookies on facebook or what have you. We have to get it out into the streets, and we have to actually do something. Yeah. I mean, far be it from me to make light of anything in this serious time, but it is beet bey, jameel. Some things demand more than memes, you know . Some things demand more than oh, wow, that was so clever and i shared it, and now we move on. Even as we know that art and culture and memes can also address serious stuff. There is more to that. Talk about serious. Youve been working on these issues, working and writing on these issues for a long time. We reported on this. We reported on the arbery case when the video emerged before there were charges. We heard from the family lawyer. Well heard from other experts. We heard from civil rights leaders. And then there were finally late charges. As a journalist, i cant tell the viewers what was inside the minds of the initial d. A. Because i cant read his mind. Right. I can tell viewers that he said is in things that are false, which he knows to be false which makes him a liar. I can tell you after public pressure there were charges. Now after all that are we learning things that need to be heard, ugly as they are. Take a listen to the arbery detective recounting what this shooter and defendant said as mr. Arbery lay dying. Here we go. Mr. Bryan said that after the shooting took place, before police arrival, while mr. Arbery was on the ground, that he heard Travis Michael make the statement [ bleep ]. As a news organization, we bleep it. But that is the testimonial evidence. Thats the video testimony. Jameel there was an f word and an n word. Your response. Yeah, i mean, unfortunately, its going to take that for some people to believe that finally Travis Mcmichael is a racist. It wasnt the evidence that he killed Ahmaud Arbery in broad daylight after this man was simply going about his business, taking a jog. But the fact he actually uses that language, that unfortunately in america is the barometer by which too many people measure racism in this country. So if it takes that, then fortunately were at that point. That being said, there is no hate crime statute in georgia. And certainly i dont rely upon william barr, who sicked tear bass and rubber bullets on Peaceful Protesters in front of the white house yesterday to survivally adjudicate civil rights of these men in the Ahmaud Arbery case. So i certainly dont have a whole lot of hopes that even with this evidence, were going to see its successful hate crimes prosecution. Even though the evidence is as you say, a hat crime. Jack meal, good to have you back on the program. Thank you. 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Im gonna need you to leave. You get relentless protection. [ baseball bat cracks ] as america faces this tenth night of protests, these now familiar scenes still do offer, think about it, several contrasts to several periods of racial strife. Theres more public support for the protests than in recent history. Many crowds are diverse in age and race than previous other efforts, and one of the sharpest contrasts comes from the top. Unlike all modern examples, donald trump is not even going through any motions of urging calm or supporting peace and diversity right now, which past president s in both parties have strived to do. And we shall overcome. America can be proud of the progress weve made toward equality, but we all must recognize we have more to do. As americans weve got to use this moment to seek out our humanity thats been laid bare by this moment. If we are to remain a hopeful nation on earth, we must allow our diversity to bring us together, not drive us apart. We must build a future where in every city across this country empty rage gives way to hope, for poverty and despair give way to opportunity. That last remark was president bush touting diversity after the lapd beating of rodney king, an incident caught on tape at a time before cell phones when personal video recording was very rare. Bushs response shows one standard trump is failing. And there are many other examples set by regular citizens outside of politics. In fact, in the same year bush was speaking, 1991, another young man raised by a black panther leader came forward saying lapd officers confronted him after he crossed the street and attacked him choosing a choke hold and knocked him unconscious. He filed a lawsuit and stressed this was a routine practice against black men. He shared pictures of his wounds. He said he hoped to draw more scrutiny to this, because while he was famous for his music, others couldnt get the same attention. This was a then 20yearold artist named tupac. I was riffing, and arguing about why would they charge me with jay walking, so i kept yelling, asking them to give me my citation and let me go about my business. Next thing i know, my face was buried into the concrete and i was face down in the gutter, waking up from being unconscious in cuffs. Waking up from being unconscious. Today, people are marching about more than that single case in minnesota. In fact, we hear from so many saying they are fed up that this is endless. We need to listen to these statements. And as with any claim, we need to then listen and see if its true. So we look at the facts and the history, which features these many accounts of this same pattern of brutality. For everybody who dont know, as if it doesnt happen every day, everywhere i, an innocent young black male was walking down the streets of oakland minding my own business and the police department, next thing i knew i was in a chokehold, passing out. You can see this, mr. C mr. Cameraman, these are scars ill go to my grave with. Oakland police department, all above my eye, all of that. Youre suing them . 10 mil. You know how that go. Rodney king is still fighting for his and they got it on tape. They got it on tape. Yes, they did. Those as far as who beat rodney king were acquitted in their local trial. The officers who knocked tupac unconscious, they actually settled his civil suit and he would go on to have several problems with the law. But when we do this seriously, when we listen to people today and people across history and, yes, people who are no longer here allowed to tell their stories, i think we can hear and we can see and if we try, we can feel how over all these years what i just showed you is 25 years old, too little has changed. So many of these old stories and pleas, they registered today because they apply today. People are asking america to get the police to stop abusing and killing them. In 1970, in 1991, you just saw, and now in 2020. We theyre asking america to get the police to stop killing them under the cover of night or in broad daylight. On tape or off the grid. During normal times or during a pandemic. Its all the time plea. America, can you get the police to stop abusing and killing innocent and unarmed people. And thats not all. There are core conditions that feed racism and abuse and inequality. These activists and civil rights leaders who have been speaking on this for so long, we should listen to that, too. Tupac was famous and apparently infamous among some of those Police Officers precisely because he had been speaking out on all of that. He would do so until he died. So as america reels right now and as so many people tell us night after night after night that this isnt just about right now, its about the history, its about how we got here and continue to be in this place, lets listen. Much of what he said back then does sadly apply today. Lets really listen to wa were learning from people and hearing from people about the system. And our final thought in tonights broadcast, i want you to keep in mind what youre about to see was a young man who was 23 years old at the time. This was a few years after the incident with the california police, and he says when people are hungry and desperate, when people need food, and when people watch their own peaceful leaders murdered as they ask for help, those conditions will shape how people respond. Open the door, let me see the party. Let me see them throwing salame. Theyre telling me there was no food in there. You know what im saying . Every day im standing outside trying to sing my way in. You know what im saying . We are hungry, please let us in. After about a week that song was going to change, we hungry, we need some food. After two, three weeks, its like give me food, knocking on the door. After a year, you know what im saying, im picking the lock and coming through the door blasting. Youre hungry, you reached the level. We asked ten years ago. We was asking with the panthers. We was asking about the civil rights movement. Those people that were asking, theyre all dead in jail. So now what do you think were going to do . Lets keep listening. Thats the sound of a very informed voice, narrating about people were fed up. That was 25 years ago. America faces a larger reckoning now. We fail to listen and act at our own peril. Thats our broadcast tonight. Keep it right here on msnbc. Good evening. Im joy reed. Massive protests continue across the country. In new york, in washington, d. C. , los angeles and elsewhere. It was an emotional day in minneapolis, meanwhile, as the family of george employed remembered his life ten days after his death in Police Custody, set off what has become a Tipping Point a race and justice