Allegations youre probably going to want to hear about. His name is dr. Rick bright. You may have heard about him before. He worked in the health and Human Services department for a decade. He began his career with the u. S. Center for Disease Control and prevention, and he focused on something that is pretty important right now. He focused on the medical science and working on influenza viruses and antiviral drugs. He is right now in this country and probably around the world one of the people that you want to be involved in these big policy decisions as everyone learns on the go. He is also right foul tonight the source for a new and explosive whistleblower complaint alleging that the white house mixed cronyism and profiteerism, trying to steer virusrelated political contracts to allies based on, quote, political connection. Dr. Bright tells a story that echoes what other Civil Servants have alleged against President Trump in more than one area, arguing, alleging that this was all about Donald Trumps own needs and his friends and his politics, not about doing his job looking out for the American People. The doctor alleging he was partly removed because he says he did the right thing. He says he followed science and evidence on the job, and he says donald trump didnt like it. The doctor having opposed a potentially dangerous type of experimentation with a drug that donald trump infamously touted as a cureall for the virus. The doctor noting it was promoted by the administration but lacked scientific merit. He said, quote, i likely resisted efforts to provide an unproven drug on demand to the american public. If you follow the news, and youre watching the news so you probably do, you probably remember donald trump at the Task Force Briefings and in other places hyping the drug. This goes well beyond the bad medical advice, though. The doctors new story here is alleging a scandal for the covid era, and he is now speaking out publicly, this is by phone, after formally filing this whistleblower complaint. Time after time i was pressured to ignore or dismiss expert and scientific recommendations, and instead to award lucrative contracts based on political connections. In other words, i was pressured to let politics and cronyism drive decisions over the opinions of the best scientists we have in government. Thats the story. Thats the allegation. It is on the record. This is not anonymous sources. This is not leaks. This is not some sort of mysterious sniping. I told you who the doctor is. I played his voice for you. He is on the record telling you what he says happened, his version of events, his concern, which of course will affect the ongoing managing of this crisis, if what he says is true. So what now . It is all true . How does the United States get to the bottom of Something Like this in the middle of an unfolding, Ongoing Public Health and economic crisis that we are all living through together . Well, heres what the doctor says. Hes asking for his job back, and he is asking they put someone new on the job to get to the bottom of all this. We are in an extraordinarily different. Global crisis, and the worst might still be ahead of us. Today im asking for the special counsel to investigate what happened to me and for this administration to reinstate me in my job. The government a job to do. It has a bunch of people who work in government that take a constitutional oath to fulfill this job. The government has an obligation to listen to dr. Brights story, his testimony, his evidence and to weigh it, to corroborate if it can. And if some of it is somehow untrue or unfounded, to deal with that as well. The context here is quite clear. He is one of several medical experts both inside and outside of this administration that has raised these type of concerns. Congress is already digging right into this step, because i can tell you tonight as part of our news report, dr. Bright will be testifying to the u. S. House next thursday. So this is a big story. This is a big development. I want to bring in our experts tonight to get into this part of it. We have a lot more in the broadcast. But joining me right now on this, david frum, who served in a white house. His new book trump pop licks the story of american democracy. Dr. William chauffeur, and neera tannin, a former top aide to both barack obama and hillary clinton. With apologies to dr. Schaffner, i would say for the past six weeks or more, i always go to the medical expert in our broadcast. But i am going to go to the government piece of this, and the doctor, im going go to you on the medical piece. But to david frum, as someone who served in a white house, and we all know there are types of debates that are valid, internal debates that are perfectly valid about policy, about ideology, about what to do, and then there are these kind of complaints. This is an allegation at least that political cronyism, that political rhetoric, that the president trying to sell something that didnt medically exist, that those things trumped science and may have, may have endangered lives. Your view of this on the government side. Normally the value of a whistleblower is that they bring forward something that is concealed inside the government. The president or somebody below him, the whistleblower. In the trump administration, everything happens in the light of day. The president s reliance on miracle cure, on fantasy, the president s preference for cronyism, all of this has happened in the light of day. And the president s determination to put his reelection first, his hope for some kind of miracle that will allow him to reopen the economy, get some kind of positive economic indicator, no matter how many lives it takes, he is telling you that. So thank you dr. Bright for your courage in stepping forward. Youre taking a tremendous risk with your career, with your future. You are going to be subject to attacks. So we applaud you for your service. And the details are always important. But the main story here, my theme throughout this administration here, the story of the trump years is many secrets, but no mysteries. Everything is happening right on the table. And dr. Schaffner, your view of what we should make of this individual based on his public credentials and record. Most americans arent familiar with dr. Bright outside of the context of this. What does it mean to you that he has served in these posts previously, and what do you make of the medical part of his concern . Well, ari, i dont know dr. Bright personally, but i certainly know of his background, and it seems just excellent. He has a long history of service, and he is professionally very qualified. Obviously, we want regarding treatments and Vaccine Development to be based on the very best science. What we want then are products we can use to treat our patients that are safe and effective, and we want those same qualities to characterize a vaccine so that when we speak with our patients or speak to the public whom we wish to vaccinate, we can tell them exactly what to expect and we can tell them how much protection they will get and hopefully for how long. And those decisions must be based on the very best, rigorous scientific evidence. And doctor, his allegations, in my view, have two components. There is what you might call the cost of stupid. What does it mean when the president or anyone in a position of power stupidly recommends things that people shouldnt do . Dont experiment with disinfectant. Dont experiment with bleach. Dont experiment with drugs outside of medical guidance. Thats all obvious, and weve all heard countervailing advice or things floated by the president. Thats the cost of stupid. Then in the rather detailed complaint he has filed, he writes about other things that we might not have known, we could have only inferred that there was another cost which was that he and others within hhs were trying to say hey, we need masks in january. We need to do other things, and that those things took a back seat to what he calls the political agent coming out of the white house. Obviously, doctor, were using you as an expert. You werent there but what do you think of that portion of the complaint . Well, if you had asked any of us before covid, we figureses and Public Health practitioners, what the single characteristic, what the single characteristic thats most important if an epidemic strikes, and we would all i think have said clear, tour that, careful, sustained communication. And i have said as a consequence of events listen to the Public Health authorities. Listen to the senior medical persons who are before you and giving advice, and i would continue to say to do that. Neera . Respectfully, id say i think were perhaps undercounting for some of the challenges here, and really what this means. As was just stated, it is vital that we have clear evidence, clear data, clear facts. When the president of the United States pressures Public Health officials to support a medication that doesnt work. We know what happens because it did. People take the medication. They digest it. They get very ill. And i think one of the consequence here is really, there is two. One consequence is we have very little trust. We have very little trust of the president. We have very little trust of information. That is i hate to use this word, but it is quite deadly in a pandemic. And secondly, dr. Bright is really talking about a political Pressure Campaign to do the white houses bidding over the needs of the public. The public really needed a massive supply of ppe. We needed testing. We needed a whole range of things. And what he is talking about is that the president s corporate interests really flouted our Public Health. And that is what i think is the deep and damaging aspect of this. Amidst all of this, i want to get you all to also consider this other development. President trump and Vice President pence have basically been floating the idea now confirmed reports that they could shut down the Coronavirus Task force. Its been having meetings in the situation room that have gone shorter. Theyre no longer daily. Dr. Birx and dr. Fauci under this plan would still go to work, but their public roles here might be pared back further without the actual format of the task force. David, i guess is part of may 2020 where i ask you what do you think of shutting down the emergency virus task force in the middle of the emergency . It wont be missed. Any task force with larry kudlow on it is a task force you can do without. The point of this task force was to create a flanking chorus of faces for the president s press conferences, his sources of narcissistic plot. When the president stopped being a source of narcissistic supply, he stopped doing them, he didnt need people flanking him. So let me draw you out on that. Youre actually making an important point. Youre reflecting, and youve worked in the white house how these things can be, they can obviously be set up in a more substantive way. But youre saying that basically, all these people can still go to work and try to do what they do. So the fact that were hearing about the cancellation of the thing, the task force right after the cancellation of the briefings reveals that it was all about a televised spectacle in your view . Everyone competent just got two extra hours in their working day to do something useful. And the people who are not competent, well, they have more time to be mischief, but they will be doing that mischief any day. And the thing that is really sinister as we learned from the Washington Post today is the response has really been run by this private group of amateurs collected by Jared Kushner who have been stumbling all over each other. Its hard to imagine anything useful that the trump administrations son since has been done by state governments. California leading the way, new york stumbling at first and then catching up, ohio, other states, many have been doing very, very good jobs, and theyve had to post National Guard troops to defend their supplies in these raids from buccaneers who have federal badges. But i dont think its symbolic abdication. I dont think anyone in the real world is going to miss it. Dr. Schaffner can i just say neera, im just going to go to the doctor and then you. Sure, sure. You know, the president was confirming this while he was out on a visit. So he is back out in arizona. He was touring a facility that makes masks. Thats a good thing. The state of arizona, though, doctors hit its highest daily death toll, 400 people. And were seeing a lot of places. Its not one story, depending where you go in the country, doctor, it seems youre seeing places where americans want to turn the page. We talk about partial reopening. Were seeing places that are hitting their worst. Your view of the medical outlook there and why for people tuning in, why is it so bad in some places when were this far into taking these measures. Well, its still bad because the coronavirus is out there and its infecting very vulnerable people. And were trying to strike a very, very tenuous balance here. Were trying to open up the social and economic part of the country and not do too much damage on the medical side. And its a real tightrope. Some parts of the country are being more conservative. Other parts of the country are being more aggressive. And we really need to watch that very, very carefully. Its very possible that as we open things up in fact, i think its quite likely that well see more cases again, an increase in hospital admissios s with patients who have diagnosed coronavirus infections. Were going have to watch this very, very carefully. Neera, you wanted to get in . I really wanted to say, i agree with david about the task force. I just have to say two things about that, though. First, what a low bar. I do think we should expect Public Officials in the middle of a pandemic to actually be working to save lives. And i appreciate that we dont have that perception of this task force because it hasnt been very successful at doing that. It hasnt really been directing the country. Its really been left to the states. But id also say that the task force itself is just i worry whats happening is the president is thinking that if he just doesnt talk about the virus, we dont have briefings, the task force goes away, then well just stop talking about it and it will go away from the headlines. I really think thats a little bit of the theory, which is to drive it off the pages, because he is not changing any behavior. He is not improving. As you can see, he hasnt told states that are reopening too early or likely too early that are seeing surges of cases and reopening the challenge that may pose to Public Health he is not having a Public Health response to. This. Right. I think the idea of the task force ending or stopping is frankly ludicrous in a moment like this. Right. And i think both david and neera a gesturing at the obvious tell. There is a tell here, because no person, whether youre experienced in Disaster Preparedness or not thinks anything disasterrelated would end before the disaster. To davids point this was about something else. We have a lot in the show, including the speaker of the house. I have to fit in a break here. My thanks to david, dr. Schaffner and neera tanden. So much to talk about. Were going obviously ask about this whistleblower complaint that is rocking the white house. Later tonight, we have a lot more planned for you including golden globe winner Jeffrey Wright stepping up to try to show tributes to our health care heroes. We have that later in the hour as well. Im ari melber. Youre watching the beat on msnbc. E got public clouds, and private clouds, and hybrid clouds things can get a bit cloudy for you. But now, theres the Dell Technologies cloud, powered by vmware. A single hub for a consistent operating experience across all your clouds. That should clear things up. Wokeuplikethis migraine medicine. The 3 40 midshift migraine medicine. Introducing ubrelvy™. Its the migraine medicine for anytime, anywhere a migraine attacks without worrying if its too late or where you happen to be. One dose of ubrelvy™ can quickly stop a migraine in its tracks within two hours. Many had pain relief in one hour. Do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. Few people had side effects, most common were nausea and tiredness. 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That is from dr. Rick bright who next week will Face Congress and the public to tell his story. And its in congress where crucial work continues on the very next virus relief bill targeting support at the ground level for state governments. A vote on that could come as soon as next week. Now there have been, count them up, four virus bills already, but this one may be the hardest to pass with looming battles over Labor Protections and senator Mitch Mcconnell threatening hardball over these potential state level bankruptcies he has been talking about. So what will democrats do . Well, the most powerful democrat in the nation here on the beat, House Speaker nancy pelosi tackling all the questions when were back in 30 seconds. Welcome back. Joining me now is House Speaker nancy pelosi. I know youre busy. Thanks for making time tonight. Thank you. My pleasure. I wish it were under different circumstances. I say that every night. Thank you for what youre doing to spread the word about the challenges we face. Sure. And i hear you on the circumstances. Im sure a lot of americans watching at home feel similarly, no matter what theyre going through. As you know, madam speaker, dr. Bright making waves today, this new whistleblower. Let me play a little bit of what hes saying. Take a listen. Time after time, i was pressured to ignore or dismiss expert and scientific recommendations and instead to award lucrative contracts based on political connections. In other words, i was pressured to let politics and cronyism drive decisions over the opinions of the best scientists we have in government. Madam speaker, what is your response to his allegations . And what do you hope your party in the oversight process will get out of his looming testimony . Well, im very saddened by the testimony of dr. Bright. We will have hearings under anne eshoo chaired by Frank Pallone of new jersey, the chair of the full committee. That will happen i believe next week to bring before congress the testimony of dr. Bright. Its very damaging. But, you know, the thing is this points to the larger issue, where are the ethics in all of this. Thats why were so, so excited about the bill that were going to be put forth because its about ethics. Its ethical for us to have the tests that we need so that everyone is tested and certain communities are not left behind because we didnt have enough or didnt have the right thing. And when we have a vaccine or drug as dr. Bright is referencing, an innovation or invention or discovery, that it be available to everyone. But it cant be available to anyone unless we have the supply chain, that we have the ingredients. And we have the Delivery System of syringes and vials and the rest to deliver it to everybody so that no one is left behind. And everyone in our country knows that they will be treated fairly and freely. But this is not a Market Opportunity for business. It is a moral imperative for Public Health in our country. So well be eager to hear the testimony that is presented, but the last thing we need is political interference into science, because science is our key, is our exit, testing, science is the way to unlock the lockout. All of that makes sense the way you put it. Im curious as you negotiate on this next bill, your view of Mitch Mcconnell talking about maybe potentially state bankruptcies. He also wants liabilities protections in the next bill. Your response to that and what should americans expect on what would now be the fifth bill . Well, let me just say this. I hope that that was a moment in the life of Mitch Mcconnell, because it certainly is not a reflection of what people are thinking in our country. And when i say people, i mean republican and democratic governors. Republican and democratic mayor, county executives throughout the country want us to go forward with state and local. We dont call it that, though. We call it our heroes bill. This is about protecting those, those who are those who are risking their lives to save lives and now at the risk of losing their jobs. Our health care provider, our First Responders, our teachers, our police, fire, emergency services, our transit workers. All the people who are part of delivering service to us again at this time of coronavirus at some risk to their own health. And so this is very popular. And all it is about is the money goes to replace the money that has been spent by states and local governments on the coronavirus specifically and the revenue loss due to the coronavirus specifically. Let me ask you a followup, madam speaker. I apologize. I know were in a little bit of a delay. On that point, lets put up map. The president and Mitch Mcconnell have talked about the funding. When you look at the states that rely most, though, on federal aid traditionally, many of them are red state, and many of these quote unquote blue states, to quote Mitch Mcconnell since i guess he wanted to make it political, many of the blue states actually give more into the federal government than they take. Do you think that is a relevant part of this . Because President Trump is making it sound like well, even your state of california or new york would be taking more than they deserve. Please let me not have to act on anything the president has said, but i will refer to mcconnell because he has said that and the president has endorsed that that were not bailing out states for what they did. No. He referenced illinois. Illinois is a state that was taken down im trying to find a euphemism for the word i want to use a bad path by a republican governor, now rescue bade democratic governor, pritzker, were very proud of him. So when he says oh, were not bailing out for past mistakes, listen, what were saying is this is about the coronavirus. What did they spend, what are their outlays, what is their revenue loss because of the coronavirus. They know that. Theyll come around on this. You know why . Democratic and republican, republican and democratic governors need this. Theyre united in that. Same thing mayors and county executives and the rest. So when they say that, its not a reason, its an excuse. And it might play some places. We want those red states, even though they may be giving in less than they receive, we want them to have what they need. This isnt about pitting states against each other. Yes. Its about the needs of the American People saving their lives, their livelihood and actually the life of our democracy. Let me ask you a policy question, because on health care, this is a Health Care Crisis obviously for so many americans. You and president obama have advocated for trying to support Health Care Funding through obamacare and medicaid and other. Even if people are without a job or between jobs. Here im going play a little bit, although i think folks remember. Here is the president and you were up there with him as he made that argument about why you need health care, even if you lose a job. Take a listen. More and more americans worry that if you move, lose your job, or change your job, youll lose your Health Insurance too. More and more americans pay their premiums only to discover that their Insurance Company has dropped their coverage when they get sick or wont pay the full cost of care. It happens every day. Does this crisis underscore why a strictly employerbased Health Care Model with no safety net is actually a Public Health danger . And what is your response to new reports that attorney general barr is even telling President Trump they should back off after efforts to weaken obamacare in the courts given this pandemic . Well, let me just say first of all i do not think obamacare is a danger to health with its strong part of it being employerbased. 150 say million families get their Health Insurance that way. We want it in the house a public option, and i hope we will get one in just six months from today when we have an election. But not to get into the political side. This is a policy issue. We have asked the president to have a special Enrollment Period for the Affordable Care act for people who do not have insurance now so that they can sign up overwhelmingly the American People support that. I do wish the president would back off his case in the court because what he is doing is saying to the American People if they paid attention when he says Something Like this that he no longer supports the preexisting condition benefit, and he is in court to remove it. This and other benefits that are contained therein. Im a big supporter of the Affordable Care act. I Want Health Care for all americans. There are many proposals on the table. But we cant take the Affordable Care act off until we have something else. Right. Whenever that may be, or the Affordable Care act can be the path. Right, or the path. So interesting to hear you say that as you say, there is whatbook carrie does, a public option and further support adds to it. As a nonideological observation, it seems like having things that can support americans even when they dont have a job for Health Coverage is needed right now, and youve obviously done a lot of work on that. Before i lose you, and i know youre busy, i do want to play joe bidens response. As viewers know he has publicly addressed this allegation. Lets take a listen. It is not true. Im saying unequivocally it never, never happened, and it didnt. It never happened. Im asking the secretary of the senate today to identify whether any such document exists. If it does, make it public. Joe biden speaking out just days ago on that allegation of a sexual assault. Now that he has given that answer, do you view this as a closed issue or what is your response . Well, it is for me. I have said i am proud to support joe biden for president. I believe him when he says it didnt happen. But i also believe when he says let them look into the records, and thats what they should do. But im not going answer this question again. I will just say i have every confidence that joe biden will be a great president of the United States, not only because of the person of integrity that he is, but the person of vision that he is for just some of the things you talked about, about health care for all americans, about job security, about the Kitchen Table issues that he is so familiar with in his own family when his father lost his own job. Joe biden is joe, and, again, he brings those values and his personal experience to a vision for america that is about fairness and not trickledown economics, but bubble up from that Kitchen Table, from working families in our country. And now we hope to have him as still a reflection of meeting the needs of everyone in our country and not trickle down or have science and research and science thats dominated anything other than by the best possible science. And i salute our scientists for what they are doing. To free us from this. Weve covered a lot of ground, and thats the last thing i wanted to button up on the virus bill, just downmaking some news on that. It sounds like in conclusion, your view is youre going to get this bill through the congress, and you expect to do that without Mitch Mcconnells talk of states going bankrupt . No, but we want it to be bipartisan. Weve had four bills and all of them have been bipartisan. And were very proud of that. And we hope that this fifth bill will as well. And we look forward to working together to find our common ground. I never took seriously any thought that they wanted states to go bankrupt, but, you know, were in an arena you gave it a lot of attention. Ewe been talking about it for a couple of weeks. Weve been talking about great things we want to do for the American People. Maybe if we phrased it that way you would be talking about it for weeks. Well see when we put forth our bill. Ill look forward to sharing more with you in our next conversation. Thank you. 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And until this fight is over, we. Will. Never. Quit. Because they never quit. We are back and david frum is with me. He was listening to the speaker of the houses interview. I have questions for you. But first, any reactions in general . Nancy pelosi is a very challenging situation ahead of her. She is playing threehanded negotiation. She is playing negotiation with Mitch Mcconnell, who is a cool savvy negotiator, very aware of the political realities, very protective of the Interest Groups he cares about. She is also negotiating with the president who is not fully connected to reality. He doesnt quite understand whats going on. And mcconnell and trump are not a unit. So her as she seeks to prevent, for example, red states from plundering blue states, she is also dealing with a president who doesnt understand the severity of the economic crisis and doesnt understand how much trouble he is in. In his own interests, he should be flooding the zone with money, but he wont do it because Mitch Mcconnell who has a keener grasp of realities doesnt want to for his own reasons. And the speaker made a point of criticizing the press, which sort of includes us, obviously. For giving attention to Mitch Mcconnells talk of bankruptcy and sort of what she views as a canard. Youve been writing than as well and documenting however seriously one wants to take Mitch Mcconnell or is it a negotiating strategy. You were documenting in the atlantic how there is a larger piece of work at play here, if you want to speak to that. Well, i dont think many people understand exactly what Mitch Mcconnell needs when he talks about bankruptcy. They think we offer monopoly. Bankruptcy means not paying the bills. But that is at fault. When the state doesnt pay its bills, thats a default. American states have been defaulting on bills since the beginning of the republic. Eight states defaulted in the 1940s. Arkansas defaulted in the 1930s. What is difference from the bankruptcy than a default is a bankruptcy is not a default. Its a process by which bills are paid under the supervision of the federal courts. Under the u. S. Constitution, bankruptcy is a federal responsibility only. So Mitch Mcconnell talks about bankruptcy for states, he is talking about putting states financial troubles under the control of the judges that he was busily confirm right now. Yeah. And that really lays out part of the stakes here, which is, as youve explained, there is a larger question of whether this particular crisis beyond the obvious spending that is going on will be used to rewire or reorder larger agendas. And i know in your piece you also said you believe part of the stakes are that some republicans are worried trump could lose and thus this is as you put it, a bit of a last chance. I got to fit in a break. So david frum helping us on more than one story with your insights, thank you, sir. Thank you. 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All of these Health Care Workers and the First Responders and people on these front lines. Of course, we see ways the people are trying to show their appreciation every day. We want to tell you about one person who is doing that, Award Winning actor Jeffrey Wright is working on providing food for Health Care Workers. Hell join me in a moment. You may recognize the face, of course. He is the star of the hit hbo series westworld. He won a golden globe for angels in america which was by many accounts groundbreaking, and you may also recall his portrayal of, and that would be hard for anyone, Martin Luther king in the movie boycott. There comes a time when time itself is ready for a change. And that time has come in montgomery. Our opponents, and i hate to think of our government officers as opponents, but thats what they are. They have tried all sorts of things to break us, but we still hold steadfast. Jeffrey was in london shooting a movie when the covid19 outbreak began to spread. He was working with this project in his brooklyn neighborhood sponsors food deliveries from local restaurants with local workers. What started with two restaurants and a hash tag spreading online has turned into brooklyn for life and now supports 32 different restaurants in brooklyn, feeding people and helping people who serve in four of the hardest hit medical centers. Because of course new york is the epicenter as well as seven different paramedic stations. Jeffrey wright is here now. Looking forward to this, not only to talk to you, which i like, but i like that youre doing something great, and i know there are people like you who in all sorts of ways, local, big, small, whatever you can do, people are doing things. So thank you for doing that. Tell us what youre up to. Well, i appreciate it, ari. Ive got to correct you, though. Were serving all 11 fdny and ems stations in brooklyn, and were up to 11 medical facilities as well. Ten in brooklyn, one in lower manhattan. And thats through a circle of now over 40 restaurants. And as you said, started with two. And it was really a very simple idea. Our Health Care Workers, our frontline folks need to eat in the midst of all of this. Of course restaurants in our neighborhood have been shutting down. This was in late march. And so there was a void to fill. So there is a restaurant here called brooklyn moon owned by a very good friend of mine for 20 years in the neighborhood named michael thompson. Been in business 25 years. I was trying to help him convert to delivery mode because he is more a social space. Youll love. This brooklyn moon was the epicenter of the brooklyn spoken word scene back in the 90s. Chris rock, i believe, performed here at some point. Erykah badu, first nyc performance. Storied place. But, you know, i promoted on social media that he was converting to delivery service. I called him up and said how are you doing . He said man, i got five orders today. So that wasnt sustainable. Another friend at a place call gracielas, been in the neighborhood 15 years, was having customers call in and order pies on behalf of brooklyn hospital, which in ft. Green. Known him since hes been in business. I reached out to veto. He connected us with the hospital and we ask ed if there was something more than we could do and that was march 27th, we started with these two restaurants, providing 200 meals per day to brooklyn hospital, to augment their cafeteria, we have staff that were working 15, 16 hours a day, many not going home, staying in hotels nearby and they needed support. So from there, we grew to the point where we crossed the 1 00,000 meal mark yesterday, averaging about 2,500 meals per day. Wow. Were we spread our outreach across brooklyn, that was you know, let me jump in, jeffrey, because one thing thats wild about this is, as you tell the story, it didnt start with you saying, i got to do the biggest thing with, as you said, hitting all 11, 100,000. It sounds like, as people try to figure out where they can plug in, you obviously, you have relationships in your neighborhood and you have some visibility, but sounds like you just started day by day and it grew. Yeah, you know, not everybody can, you know, nobody can do everything, but everybody can do something. It was really very simply trying to help out a couple friends of mine, particularly mike, and it just mushroomed from there. Whats been exciting, too, is, you know, we put the video together, but prior to the video, we raised the bulk of our money on a go fund me page. Were up to 295,000 now. Weve raised and additional 180 or so, close to 200 on the outside of that through direct donations, you can go to brooklynforlife. Org to check that out. But its been evenly split between 15, 10 donation, daniel craig was one of the folks i reached out to, jayz, spike lee. But it was ordinary brooklynites that stepped up, as well. Almost at an even split. And so what im really excited about now is that we found our First Corporate partner in at t, theyre going to come in and help us out with 250,000, which is really going to allow us to extend a bit further, but still looking for additional Corporate Partners to step up at that level so that we can allow these restaurants, all small businesses, mom and pop joints, we can allow them a lifeline that will allow them to ride through this thing, ideally, until Greater Public funding becomes available to them or they can reach some level of commercial viability again or normalcy. We understand its a stop gap. Yeah, and youre hitting the link there, theres local businesses that still need to work, because people want to work, and theres a lot of people working these long shifts, particularly in hardhit areas like new york, Health Care Workers that need to eat. I love all that. You know i keep in touch with all my fellow nerds, right . So, you know i cant end the interview without making sure we talk batman, right . Okay. Okay. You were shooting batman, playing commissioner gordon when this all happened, so, what happens with the future of that film . And what energy do you bring to playing commissioner gordon, who, in a different batman, famously said that sometimes the hero we need is the person who doesnt even think of themselves as a hero. Well, your nerd friends and you would be impressed, i got a couple old School Batman comics up there on the shelf behind me, keeping them there for quick reference when i need yeah, i was in the middle of filming batman when this all well, not when i began, when the lockdown started to happen in europe. That was march 15th, i not on a plane and made it back here, so, we pumped the brakes pretty hard, but we were having a ball up to that point. You know, you ask, how are we going about it, listen, every batmans fascinating. Its evolved from 1939 until now, were still, you know, recycling these stories and reinventing these stories, and what we were trying to do is create a film and a tone and a mood and a setting that is contemporary, is grounded in some, you know, in a gotham that we might all relate to in some ways and were doing it together, so, what im doing as commissioner gordon is really reflecting off what rob p pattinson is doing as batman and were all in it together, but we were yeah, we were doing some pretty cool stuff, i have to tell you. I think people will be psyched to see it, obviously, a lot of things on hold, but culture doesnt stop. Were going to look forward to it. I have to end by asking you, you know which batman character is cdc approved . Ah ah, which would that be . Bane. He is always in his mask. Of course, of course. But see, i know where tony fauci was born. Those are the kind of questions i was tony fauci was born right here at brooklyn hospital. Hey, shoutout to brooklyn. 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