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First thing, area of concern is the northern bahamas, and then were going to talk about South Central florida on the east coast, and then possibly right up through the florida coast into the carolinas. Yesterday the trend was, uhoh, this looks really strong and further to the south. Today, in the last 24 hours, the trend has been, it still looks really strong, but maybe, just maybe, we can stall this thing out enough and curve it out to sea, to avoid a devastating blow on the east coast of florida and even the carolinas. So let me explain the latest from the hurricane center. 115 bhirn 115mileperhour winds and look at how well defined the eye is. Very symmetrical. It just looks like a classic, major hurricane right now. Wouldnt surprise me at all if it gets up to a category 4 overnight tonight into tomorrow morning. And i still think that this may have a shot at some point in the next 24 hours, close to a category 5. That gets your attention enough right there. We know were going to have this huge beast of a storm that could potentially do extreme damage. Just like a michael last year or some of the big huge ones weve done in the past. The forecast path for the hurricane center, were through the bahamas sunday into monday. So we know that that part of the forecast, all of our models are saying thats going to happen. That looks like its pretty much set in stone. Theyre rushing to either get out of the way or rush to completion in areas of the northern bahamas. And then we have this northwards turn. And this is the big debate between all the meteorologists and why the forecast wiggles and changes a little bit. When is that change going to occur . Its all being guided by an area of High Pressure up here by bermuda. If its a little strong, it sends it straight into areas of south florida and central florida. If its weaker, the storm stalls and then it can curve and turn. And thats kind of been the trend as weve gone throughout the day today. A little bit of a weaker high, as that allows the storm to stall and then kind of make a drifting trend. As it drifts as a hurricane 4 along the east coast of central florida, thats horrendous. Thats like worstcase scenario for them. But if we can kick it just a little bit more offshore, say wl like, what this commuter model does, then it will just be a glancing blow. But youll notice the majority are either on the show or right along te coahe coast, from vero beach, palm bay, down towards indian river, and up here towards the space coast, flagler county, Daytona Beach areas, and jacksonville. And now weve added charleston in there, too. We havent ruled out the possibility of a direct hit up here. These are our two computer models. This is the american model. We get the big updates ae s eve hours. It goes the storm throughout 2 00 a. M. Tuesday. Thats how far back weve pushed this now, just off the coast of florida. But the european model further still off the coast of bahamas. Now the european model, off coast, american model comes right along the coast and then off the coast. So weve got a lot to watch on this one, chris. And, you know, i hate to say its the flip of a coin right now, but if you watch that coin of uncertainty, we call it this white area in here, 50 of that is now offshore. The other 50 is either over florida or over here in western portions of florida. Right now, its just too early for us to say if were even going to get a category 4 landfall. But its still a possibility, and as long as that is the case, you have to prepare. Yeah, no kidding. Bill karins, thank you for that. All of the preparations for this storm coming just after the Trump Administration announced a plan to take away funding from fema, shifting 155 million from femas Disaster Relief funding to pay for the president s border priorities. And when it looked like dorian could hit the alreadybattered puerto rico, the president sent multiple tweets attacking the island and its leaders, calling them corrupt and incompetent. All of this as trump faces growing pressure on everything from his trade policy to immigration plans. With growing signs of frustration from a key part of trumps base, farmers, getting ham pemered by trumps trade wa and new ethanol rules. Plus, public outcry after the administration eliminated a policy to defer deportations for families with a member undergoing lifesaving medical treatment. Now, children with cancer and cystic fib iic fie fibrosis cou kicked out of the country within weeks. And the president s personal assistant getting kicked out after comments she had made to reporters. Joining us now, clarence page, good to see both of you. Victoria, there was a lot of coverage of the president staying home to monitor the storm this weekend, but dorians coming right after he cut money from femas budget. He attacked puerto rico again, in fact, he seemed to complain about another big storm heading to the island. So how does he prove hes actually committed to these areas hit by storms . I dont think hes necessarily carrying whether it shows up that hes committed or not. We know that he has had a very tumultuous relationship with the island of puerto rico, with their leadership, and he in his actions, in taking that funding away from fema, because lets not forget that its only been two years since Hurricane Maria and the island is still recovering. So i dont think he really cares that much. I think where its really going to hurt, though, chris, is in florida. Because when we first thought that the bulk of the storm was going to go to puerto rico, thats a different story than when it hits florida and you have that full electorate of a purple swing state there thats going to be affected. So im going to be really curious to see if he changes his tune when we see impact of the storm closer to the u. S. Mainland. Clarence, the front page of puerto ricos leading newspaper today said, mr. President , your numbers are fake, because he said puerto rico got 92 billion in hurricane recovery. He keeps repeating that, when congress and the executive branch, its been said over and over again, only approved 489d billi 49 billion. And only half of that has gotten to puerto rico already. So whats it mean that he just keeps saying this over and over and over again no matter how many times hes corrected . The president has had a math problem with puerto rico from the time of the first hurricane. We saw that he, you remember, way underestimated or understated the number of casualties there. Saying it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 or 40, Something Like that. And turns out its well over a thousand. These are the kind of this is the kind of attention hes given to puerto rico in the past. Its a very strange kind of a passive neglect, if you will. While at the same time, florida is a very important state for him politically, as well as an important state for him financially, because hes got two very Important Properties there. Maralago and the other hotel that he wants to have the g7 conference in. And thats the difference between those two as far as the president s attention goes. So i suspect were going to see him paying a lot more attention, especially as the storm gets closer to orlando and highway 4, which is a pivotal area of independent swing voters in florida, which can carry that very important states electoral votes one way or the other. Yeah, we know he canceled a trip to poland, but hes about to get on a flight to go to or i guess, i guess the helicopter, to get to camp david. But in the meantime, i talked to the former fema director, craig fugate, earlier today about the cuts, taking money away from fema, for border projects. Especially the timing. You know, going right into the hurricane season. And fugate had some really fascinating insight about who should actually worry about that money going away. Heres what he said. To me, it will not affect the response to this hurricane. A bigger problem will be other disasters that if fema starts running low on money responding of this hurricane, they may have to stop work on older disasters until congress is able to refund that account. Until congress can refund that account. Look, you might say, victoria, oh, of Course Congress would replenish fema funds. Well, i do think a lot of people thought theyd take care of 9 11 victims, too, but we saw how protracted that was, right . I mean, regrettably, weve become so hyperpartisan in this era and congress has become so deadlocked that pretty much everything is a tugofwar and anything that before would not be considered contentious is considered contentious now. So the issue of fema funding is one of these issues where you think, its going to pass, its absolutely going to pass, and it doesnt. And chris, i want to take a further step back in terms of the shuffling around of the money from fema out of the department of homeland security. Lets also think about what happens when were taking money away from the Larger National security perspective. So were funneling all of our money to the border, all of our money to detention centers. But not only are we neglecting fema, but were also neglecting maybe cybersecurity, were neglecting providing for protection from other things that are maybe not physical in nature, but cyber in nature. So this is really worrisome, how we see the reshuffling of money for the one project that is really about Donald Trumps central piece for his electoral strategy. Well, and all of this is playing out, clarence, as Congress Wraps up its summer break. Theyre coming back to d. C. Soon and Senate Republicans are reportedly getting anxious about trumps handling of the economy. Politico reporting one gop official saying, everyone acknowledges that the economy is good, but theyre still uneasy about their own circumstances. I am nervous that people will lose their patience and want to start seeing results. And just as an aside, another republican member of the house today announced that he will not be running for reelection. Do you think that there is a point at which republicans will abandon the president on this . We keep asking that, dont we . Since the president was elected and we dont see republicans defecting in any significant way. Quite the opposite. They have no place to go, but to stand together, unless they do want to leave congress altogether, which as you mentioned, a startling large number have done but right now, the republicans are concerned about the perceptions of a depression and the economics is really 90 psychological impressions anyway. If you feel properous, than you are politically. If you dont feel prosperous, thats a problem for the status quo, as far as the Office Holders currently in office. And so thats going to be a big question now as we see President Trump constantly looking for somebody to blame for the pessimism some people feel. And of course, the press is to blame, so is the federal reserve, you name it. He goes after anybody he can, and he seems to be doing more of that, lately. We also mentioned frustrations among farmers with the president s tra ees trade. Today the New York Timess paul krugman wrote it, the frauding of americas farmers, saying farmers support of trump should be seen as a form of affinity fraud, in which they fall for a con man who they image to be someone like them. And as is often the case in such frauds, the con man and his associates actually have contempt for their marks. Joining us by skype from his north dakota farm is bob ckylen a wheat farmer who says hes lost 400,000 since trump took office. Beautiful piece of property you have there, bob. Whats been happening with your business . Well, we lost pretty much all of our markets since trump took over. Hes dropped out of the tpp, he got rid of nafta. I raise a lot of wheat on my farm and the pacific rim countries, they like highprotein wheat, and thats what we raise here. So being the market is low, ever since last year at harvest this time, i sold wheat for 5. 70. The market today is 5. 82. There used to be up to 1 bonus on protein from 12 protein to 17, there would be a 1 spread. Right now theres 5 cents. So we raise a lot of highprotein weeheat, so were taking about a 2 hit from last year, 2 to 3 hit. And were about 70 to 75 an acre were losing by harvesting a little bit above average crop right now. So how do you keep going . Well, older guys like us, weve built up equity all our lives. Most farmers are land rich and cash poor, so well take out loss loans and stuff against our land and go backwards on the land that we paid for. But theres a lot of Young Farmers out there that dont have equity. And i worry about them, because theyre going to theyre not going to be able to withstand this. One of my neighbors, young neighbors told me the other day, he said, if his banker says if wheat isnt 4. 50, theres going to be a bloodbath this fall. So its not looking good for farmers at all. I know were getting some payments coming in here. Where im at, were going to get like 15 an acre, so thats still going to put me at a 60 an acre loss. Wow. You did not vote for President Trump, you told us, but polls show he does still have some support from the farming community. But are you sensing in the people around where you live a change, a shift . I think there was a lot of people who voted for him that want to stay loyal to him, but its going to get to the point where financially, if its between supporting the president or losing your family farm, this is something weve had in our family for four generations and i know theres families with five or six generations on the same farm, if theyre going to lose that, i think theyre going to lose their loyalty really fast. Well, bob kylen, we wish you well. Its one of the Great American resources, is the family farm. And thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us today. Thank you. Clarence page, what do you say to that . Hes saying there could be a bloodbath . Indeed. Because of this Current Crisis w, i learned that illinois leads the country on soy production. I didnt realize that, but illinois is a manufacturing state and an agricultural state. And were seeing the same kind of reaction in illinois as a result of this Current Crisis. Nobody really knows where this current trade war is going to go. Trade wars are a dangerous matter to get into. And President Trump is doing all he can to make it look good, but people are feeling the pain out there. And that doesnt help anybody. No, it does not. Clarence page, thank you. Victoria, please sta with y wit. After a 30second break, the slow build of democrats coming out for impeachment since muellers testimony. Also, trumps new policy that could deport migrants with severe illnesses. Ill talk to the family of a fiveyearold boy, samuel costa. This isnt political for him. Its a matter of life and death. And later, a oneonone with billionaire and president ial candidate tom steyer. Im Chris Jansing in for ari melber. Youre watching the beat msnbc. Back in 30 seconds. Yes thats why i wear skechers slipons. Theyre effortless. Just slip them right on and off. Skechers slipons, with aircooled memory foam. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance, hmm. Exactly. So you only pay for what you need. Nice. But, uh. Whats up with your. Partner . Not again. Limu thats your reflection. Only pay for what you need. Liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty its turning into one of the biggest political surprises of the summer. The growing move to impeach President Trump. 41 more democrats coming out in favor of impeachment since mueller testified before congress in july, bringing the total number of house members supporting an impeachment inquiry to 135. Just this week, after trump threatened to pardon aides if they had to break the law in order to speed up progress on a border wall, a top democrat said that issue would be added to ongoing proceedings about whether to impeach trump. Meanwhile, the slow burn of the growing impeachment caucus continues. One additional democrat, lori trayhan of massachusetts got behind the impeachment move after muellers testimony. 96 democrats are calling for an impeachment inquiry. 98 house members back an impeachment inquiry. The impeachment caucus is swelling to 108 members. 116 members. If youre counting, takes you up to 117 House Democrats. If one more democrat comes out in favor, its house of the caucus. I feel we can no longer wait. I feel compelled to call for an impeachment inquiry against President Trump. I do not come to this decision lightly. The American People deserve the truth. A majority of House Democrats are now on record, publicly supporting an impeachment inquiry. The number of democrats supporting an impeachment inquiry now 124. 126. Nbcs count now up to 133 democrats. That brings the number of house lawmakers backing impeachment to 135. Im joined now by tennessee congressman steve cohn, a member of the judiciary committee. Its good to see you, congressman. You have supported impeachment since late 2017. Why do you think that now, almost two years later, some of your colleagues are changining their minds . The Democratic Base is very much in favor of impeachment. The mueller testimony really was eye opening to some, in that it showed clearly that five of the obstruction charges had all of the constituent elements had been met and that there were ten and so arguably, you had ten obstructions, but five, all of the elements were met. And that there were over 100 contacts with russia and the Trump Campaign during the election. And while there might not have been a conspiracy, there was cooperation and welcome of the russian involvement and all of those things together, but the Democratic Base has made a lot of people come out to say theyre for an inquiry. Im all for an inquiry and pleased to say 135 people there. I think im second or third in the congress to come out for impeachment, not for an inquiry. Because i dont think while its important that we get the facts out there in hearings, and thats what we can have to really influence and show the public the need to impeach this man, theres no question hes committed innumerable impeachable offenses and he should be impeached. Were beyond the stage of simply having an inquiry. He has basically come out and shown us his violations of the emoluments clause, his obstruction of justice, and his total disregard for the rule of law, that he should be impeached and removed. So you say the Democratic Base the Democratic Base is for impeachment. Soi so i want to play what constituents were asking your colleague, katie porter of california, about impeachment at a town hall she had recently. I believe that the impeachment of donald trump is a big mistake. He must be defeated at the ballot box in november 2020. I came out in favor of impeaching donald trump, because i believe that no american, especially not a democratically elected president , can be above the rule of law. So im sure you heard the reaction. I mean, this is someone, im sure you know, she beat an incumbent republican. She flipped that republican seat in california. So, if there is this sort of growing sense among the Democratic Base that the time has come, how do you move nancy pelosi into that category . You know, katies a great representative and nancys a great speaker, but i dont know how to move nancy, really. Were friends and shes got her ear to the ground and shes listening to different vibrations that im listening to when i put my ear to the ground. What does she tell you . Do you ask her that . Do you ask her, what are you hearing that i dont understand . Well, she never really, i think so, tells me the full story. I mean, i think that she says and i agree with her that were going to continue an impeachment inquiry, were going to have hearings in the house and the judiciary committee, were going to have one on emoluments in my subcommittee in september. There will be other hearings if we can get the witnesses in and we need to proceed in court with our subpoenas and get the evidence and the grand jury testimony that were seeking and get mcgahn and lewandowski and all those folks to testify. And as that material comes out, we will go where the facts lead us. And i understand that and i agree with that and that makes sense. But at the same time, we know what theyre going sto say, paue its in the mueller report. And those facts are that the president obstructed justice. And theres no question that the emoluments clause, every time he takes in dollars from foreign governments at trump hotels or trump towers and now hes so blatant that he wants foreign governments to pay him at the doral. This has just gone too far. And, you know, im afraid theyll run out the clock, that trump, theyre doing all they can to avoid court hearings. Theyre trying to appeal when they lose. And theyre going to stall the clock until its too late. And thats why we need to just impeach the guy. And while he wont be convicted, its important to put him and have the house do its proper deed to say, this is wrong, we have a certain line, and the line is the constitution, and the constitution has been violated congressman steve cohen, thanks so much for coming on the program. Thanks for having me on. I just want to say, john shimkus, who announced he wasnt running is ram. Hes a good guy. And its a shame that good people like that are leaving. And its probably because theyre in the minority and partly, i suspect, because they dont want to be around this president. Thank you so much for that. Turning next to trumps new policy that could deport migrants facing illness. Liberty mutual customizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. I wish i could shake your hand. Granted. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Woman 1 this is my body of proof. Man 1 proof of less joint pain and clearer skin. Man 2 proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis. Woman 2 . With humira. Woman 3 humira targets and blocks a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. Its proven to help relieve pain, stop further irreversible joint damage and clear skin in many adults. Humira is the number one prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. Announcer humira can lower your ability to fight infections. 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Almost 900 cases across 19 states, plus doctors and staffers were infected. The majority of patients got the mumps while in i. C. E. Custody. One Public Health professor told buzzfeed that based on cdcs data, an i. C. E. Detainee had roughly at least a 4,000fold greater risk of getting mumps than a nondetainee a in the United States at large. This comes after months of reports of crowded and unsanitary detentions for detainees and as a new front is opening in the immigration fight. Activists are sounding an urgent alarm over a new trump policy to deport severely ill migrants. Not from detention centers, but people who are here for critically needed medical attention. And today, dozens of democratic lawmakers sent a letter to top Trump Administration officials about this new policy, asking them to turn over documents within two weeks. So heres the question. Why these patients. Many of them children are being targeted, despite trump having claimed his real immigration concern was the quote, invasion from criminals and gangs. This is an invasion. When you see these caravans starting out with 20,000 people, thats an invasion. Were talking about an invasion of our country with all types of criminals and gangs. People hate the word tinvasion, but thats what it is, an invasion of criminals and drugs and people, and in many some cases, in many cases, you have killers and murderers coming in. Trump warning of gangs, but the new policy is affecting people like this 5yearold boy. His name is samuel costa. Hes from brazil. And is currently getting roundtheclock specialized medical care in the u. S. For a condition affecting his internal organs. His family says he cannot get this treatment in brazil. But earlier this month, the family received this letter telling them to leave the u. S. Within 33 days. I want to bring in madeleine cronan, the attorney for the family you see here. Samuel is sitting on his mothers lap, sirlene and danielle sales is daniels cousin. First, how is samuel doing today . Samuel is doing all right today. Thank you for asking. You are a u. S. Citizen. I am. How important is it for samuel to be able to stay here in the u. S. . For samuel to stay here, it keeps pretty much his life. Him leaving the country, he wouldnt have this specialized treatment that he has right now, that hes currently having, and the Health Treatment that hes having here right now. So literally, this is for him what he absolutely needs to stay alive. Exactly. Madeleine, what happened here . What did the letter say about why samuel would have to go . Well, there actually was no reason or analysis given in the letter. We submitted an application, a detailed application about why, what his condition is, and the seriousness of it. And we just got this boilerplate letter that says, you have 33 days to leave the country or be put in deportation. So there was no analysis. It was obviously a boilerplate letter. Wow. So you say his life is at risk here and you get back basically a boilerplate. Correct. No public announcement since then, either. I know youve been working with the aclu and other groups to try to bring attention to this, so this, obviously, isnt just impacting samuel. How broad a problem could this be . Well, there are no fixed numbers on how many cases there are across the United States, but ive heard its up to a thousand cases. So, up to a thousand across the country. I have met with a couple of other new people that i saw this week that are facing the same problem. Great, great humanitarian problem. So they also got letters saying you have a certain amount of days and then you have to leave the country. Yes. And they presented these letters thinking they were alone in isolation, that for some reason they alone would get these letters. Not knowing it was a blanket situation across the country. Danielle, how long could samuel go on without treatment . Is it something that he absolutely needs every single day . Samuel receives his nutrition, his medicine, his everything that he needs through a central line to his heart. That takes 12 hours daily by two machines, using two machines. So thats what he needs every single day. What has it been like for you . What has it been like for his mom and for his family, ever since this letter came in . Can you even put into words the emotional toll this is taking on you . I wish we could have words to describe what were feeling, but i think that currently theres no words for me to describe exactly what everything has been going on, not only with his mother, but with everybody around us, the family, the friends and everybody who has been supporting us this past few months and this past few years that this has been going through. Madeleine, i just want to clarify, if something cant be done, if youre efforts through the aclu and others are unsuccessful, what are your options . Is it possible congress could get involved . I mean, we heard that they have written a letter. What are your thoughts . The clock is ticking. Well, we know that he cant leave. So that 33 days is just impossible. We also know that we are working in exploring all legal options. We havent heard anything from acting director cuccinelli. This policy has been in place since the mid70s. Its a complete and abrupt reversal of this longtime policy. So other than that, this is a last effort by families to expose themselves and to request help, because of a dire situation. And now its completely been done away with. And other than legal action, its asking the immigration service, by putting a real face to this problem to go back to the longstanding policy of deferred action and humanitarian cases. Well, madeleine cronin, thank you so much. And i know that this is, would not be high on the priority list for a sick little boy and his family to come on television and have to talk about this, but its so important and we thank you. And of course, were sending a big hug to samuel, who is a beautiful, beautiful boy. And we hope youll keep in touch with us and let us know how things are going. Thank you very much. Thank you. Let me bring back in victoria defrancesco soto. I dont even know what to say here or what question to ask you. Whats your reaction to what you just heard . Cruelty and agony, thats my initial reaction, chris. But i you know, i think why is this happening . Im asking myself, how could we have gotten to this point. And then i get my academic hat back on and say, wait, we saw this coming. We have seen a cut to refugee and asylum programs in the United States like nothing we have ever seen before. So when president obama left office, we were providing 110,000 visas to refugees and asylums for humanitarian reasons, for lifesaving reasons. The Trump Administration in the last fiscal year cut it to 30,000 people. This is just that next step and extremity of denying the humanity of folks who are immigrants. Because, really, this is a matter of life and death, chris. You know, these folks can not leave by their own accord. When is this going to happen . What im wondering here is what are the optics of this going to be . Is this going to be a zero tolerance situation like we saw at the border last summer, chris, where the American Public stands up and says, no more, were not going to stand for this. But this is such an extreme, i think wed see that backlash. Well, i think the timeline being so short, and you have to go back to the argument that the president has made over and over and over again. That his immigration policies are a National Security issue. Look at samuel, what National Security threat does he pose . I dont know if you saw the cover of the front page of the New York Times, i think it was yesterday, another immigrant, maria isabel busaio who has a rare genetic disease told the New York Times, ive been feeling super scared and overwhelmed. The treatment that i receive keeps me alive. Is she a National Security threat . I mean, these are the polar opposites of what the quote unquote bad homobbres are. These are children, these are innocent youth. And lets talk about the fact that deferred action is also need for their caretaker. Because you cant leave a 5yearold by himself in a hospital room. You need a mother and a father there. This from every angle is one of the most cruel policies i have ever seen. You know, i im speechless when i saw this, this policy intent by the Trump Administration, which by the way, came without a review period. Because usually when we have rules put out from the executive office, there is a period where theres comment. There was none of that. Victoria defrancesco soto, lets hope people are watching and paying attention tonight. Thank you so much for being on. Thanks, chris. Up next, ill talk to billionaire and president ial candidate, tom steyer. Mizes your Car Insurance, so you only pay for what you need. I wish i could shake your hand. Granted. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. You should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. You should be mad at forced camaraderie. And you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. 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Narrator because we know quality Public Schools make a better california for all of us. Were back with new comments from donald trump who is on his way to camp david tonight about the abrupt resignation of his personal assistant after she made comments about the first family in an offtherecord meeting with reporters. She said she was drinking a little bit and she was with reporters and everything she said was off the record. Mentioned a couple of things about my children. It was an offtherecord. And of course the press, the press breaks offtherecords all the time, because they are very dishonorable. Many of them. Not all of you, but many of them. He says he spoke with her tonight and he wishes her well. Either youre in or youre out. Thats the harsh reality for half the democratic 2020 field, because, look, whats anybody talking about. Not the folks who will be watching from home, but about the first faceoff between the top three about whether any of the candidates polling at 2 could have a breakthrough. And of course, theyre talking about the firstever battle between joe biden and Elizabeth Warren, as her rise in the polls has some other contenders nervous. My next guest missed the debate by just one poll. And as a result, maybe missed a lot of attention. 2020 president ial candidate tom steyer is here. Good to see you again. Thanks for joining us. Chris, thank you for having me. So lets take a realistic look at this. You spent an awful lot of money. You came close, but no cigar. What needs to happen now for you to believe, and frankly, for people to believe that this campaign is viable . Well, the rule is that we needed to be at 2 in four polls in the early primary states. The public polls that the dnc doesnt accept have me somewhere between 6 and 7 on average in those four states. But over the last six weeks but you knew going in what the rules were. Thats what the dnc would say, right . We just need to have some polls. And youll just continue to spend money until what we can see, chris, is that my message that we have a broken government, that corporations have bought the government, that we need to reestablish the democracy in order to get the kinds of policies in health care and in education and a living wage, clean air and clean water, in order to get those policies to happen is actually working. People believe that for the last ten years, aye taken these corporations on and beat them. So of course im going to keep going. Theres no question. It is working, they just havent run polls. But what do you base that on . What do you base that on . The polls that are on the ground right now and have been on the ground for the last six weeks. The actual polls in the early primary states where ive been spending my time, actually show that im somewhere between fourth and fifth place. So we can see from polls on the ground that the dnc doesnt accept that my message is working, that people are responding. So it would be crazy to not keep going and im definitely going to. Okay, youre going to keep going. In the meantime, we heard the dnc announcing today that theyre going to politic a virtual caucus in iowa, that critical first caucus state. The Des Moines Register says the iowa virtual caucus blew up. If youre not a political nerd, why should people care . Whats your take on this . Well, i think the virtual caucus was a way for people to vote who were for some reason couldnt find the time to get to a caucus, which takes several hours. So that means people who were homebound, who might be seniors. It means people who have two jobs and have to be at work. It means people who cant find child care. People estimated that, if in fact, the virtual caucus were allowed, there would be up to a third more participation. So im absolutely in favor of the enfranchisement of iowan voters who others cant get to the polls. I think that is terrible decision. Do you not buy their explanation, which is they cant assure the security of such a system . Look, i think there are some security issues, but i think theyve had months to work on it and have another five months to get that in order and get a backup system in line. So i think this is something that is doable and when youre talking about disenfranchising a third of iowa democrats, it seems to me its important enough to make sure they can do it. So you think the wrong decision was made on the caucus. Youre not alone in that. This week, you also ran an ad in iowa criticizing the dynamic over the debate requirements. And theres also been a lot of ongoing unhappiness about mixing the climate debate. Are you happy with the dnc and its leadership and their influence on this campaign . Look, chris, im a political outsider. For ten years, ive been taking on corporations and beating them as an outsider in the political system. Ive also started the need to impeach campaign, which was getting over 8 million americans to sign a petition to impeach and remove our criminal president. In all of this, ive been pushing the system to try to be more democratic. Ive started an organization to register, engage, and drive voters to the polls, which did an historic job in 2018. So as far as im concerned, my job over the last ten years has been to reinvigorate democracy at the expense of corporations and political insiders. So i dont see myself as being in a different position here. Im with the people. I think every one of the stances that ive taken have been to try to reflect the fact that human beings feel shut out by this government, shut out by this political system, and that for us to reinvigorate our democracy, were going to have to take it back and thats what ive been trying to do and thats what i continue to try to do. Tom steyer, thank you very much for coming on. Have a good holiday. Thank you, chris, you too. Coming up, were tracking Hurricane Dorian as it heads to the florida coast. We are live on the ground, next. Banjo . man go home. woman banjo sorry, it wont happen again. Come on, lets go home. After 10 years, weve covered a lot of miles. Good thing i got a subaru. avo love is out there. Find it in a subaru crosstrek. avo get 0 during the subaru a lot to love event. You wouldnt accept from any one else. Why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase relieves your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. 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Weeks after the death of jeffrey epstein, the criminal case against him has formally closed, but new reports are providing new insight into what prosecutors may be looking at concerning his closest associates. The New York Times reporting that according to two people with knowledge of the inquiry, epstein relied on, quote, an organized network of underlinks, women to aid him, people who were training girls in sexual acts, who booked cars and travel logistics, who recruited others to ensure epstein, quote, always had a fresh supply of teenaged girls at the ready. Some were previously named as coconspirators in the infamous plea deal that granted them immunity. One of the victims, teresa helm also spoke about them in a federal judge tuesday saying they need to be held accountable for helping him with systematic recruitment and abuse. And gloria allred, an attorney for several of the victims says she spoke about this with geoffrey berman, the u. S. 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Good evening. Im Chris Matthews in washington. As we enter labor day weekend, we mark the traditional end of summer, of course, and the beginning of an intense new phase in the president ial campaign of 2020. Ten democrats have made the cut for next months debate. That puts the top billing three candidates, joe biden and senators Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren bunched together at center stage. And while the summer has brought its share of ups and downs, the shape of the race has remained gelled. On the very first day of summer, for example, june 21st