Citizenship. So think about it like this. Unlike the battles over people who broke a law to be here, now were in a place where legal immigrants who are allowed to use these programs are basically being threatened with punishment. A rule designed to make the path to citizenship or legal status here in the United States more dependent on class and wealth. If that sounds a little funny like, wait, is that what this whole project is about, obviously many critics tonight saying that approach undercuts the longstanding tradition in the u. S. Immigration system, that people come here for a better life. Is that sentiment, give us your tired, your poor, still operative in the United States . Should those words come down from the plaque . Im certainly not prepared to take anything down off the statue of liberty. Alrighty then. Now, that is on the legal side. As for the undocumented, Trump Officials are back on defense over those large raids which came literally days after what we all remember, what we all lived through here, one of the most horrific acts of latino violence in u. S. History. Given the emotions of the country right now, in hindsight, do you wish this raid didnt happen this week . The timing was unfortunate. Unfortunate. Well, speaking of unfortunate, we now have the picture of Donald Trumps top border official confronted with this video. You may have seen it. Weve played it more than once here. A young girl scared and upset as she was stranded and separated from her father. Its not just a victimless crime thats going on here. First of all, they are here illegally and in a lot of times there is an additional fraud that goes with this for them to try to get these jobs in these companies. So i understand that the girl is upset and i get that. But her father committed a crime. References to crimes with victims usually refer to violence or some sort of major financial harm. Hence the other victims. Not a Single Person taking a lowpaying job in concert with an american company. Now, the reference there to fraud is true as far as it goes. But that, again, would apply to these American Companies who also fraudulently employ the undocumented. They do it over and over. This is a market economy. These are companies with accountants and lawyers and executives who usually know better and who are also rarely charged let alone convicted. This would include the president s own company which faces brandnew allegations of employing, yes, undocumented workers. There are about 8 million undocumented workers in the United States. Thats about 5 of the u. S. Work force with Many Companies going back and back and back. To engage in this kind of commerce, this kind of employment law. Now, in the last year, i can tell you we checked this tonight the feds prosecuted 11 people for hiring undocumented workers. And they didnt prosecute on the wholesale basis any entire corporations. That is quite a contrast. So keep that in mind as you watch Trump Officials who dont really have firm answers to this line of factual questioning. It seems like you guys are turning a blind eye to this crime being committed by the president s own companies. I take offense to say anybody is turning a blind eye to someone that is violating the law. There has never been a raid. Theres never been any sort of Law Enforcement investigation that we can discern. So you really cant say that for sure because there are investigations going on all the time that youre unaware of. Im joined by mar a gay, the New York Times editorial board, Obama Administration official and hispanic philanthropy i, sarah or teas sarah ortiz, american resource center. Good to have all of you with us here as experts on these issues. I want to start with you, nancy, on that contrast. What do you think of the Trump Officials defense there are very few corporations charged, maybe there is some secret investigation we dont know about . Flls the secret investigation is including the trump companies, thats why its so secret. The reality is at the end of the day its the employer. It seems to be okay to go after the workers in these places because they are performing illegally, but it seems not to be okay to go after the companies themselves for fraudulent and illegal behavior themselves. So it seems to be, again, back to the idea of class and economics basically. The big concern that i have in all of this is we talk about the illegality of it and the reality is that when the raids happened, they didnt happen in places where illegal activity happens. Theyre happening in workplaces. It tells you something about the immigrants that they are picking up and what theyre here for. So thats the concern that i have. Unless they are willing to go deep into the pockets of some of the companies that are very much Trump Supporters which i doubt theyre going to do, maybe thats why its so see krelt. Now 11 prosecutions dont tell me theyre doing real work in that space. Mara, take say listen to mr. Morgan on this same issue. It seems to be a trouble spot for them. Sure. Are there any charges against the companies or the Business Owners . Its an investigation right now. In the last year, zero companies prosecuted, only 11 individuals prosecuted. I mean, if you focused on the companies, wouldnt that have more of a deterring effect than going after these individuals who are desperate . So, jake, again, this is the third time. That was the intent of the investigation im talking about in the last year, zero companies and 11 individuals for the last year. I cant speak to the department of justice on how many cases they have. Yea, i think its a little bit painful for me to talk about policy here because i think this is about politics. And it is absolutely not these are not policies being driven by reason. Theyre being driven, i believe, by the need and desire to throw red meat to Donald Trumps base who unfortunately its like they forgot what their mother taught them and they are responding to hatred against black and brown people. And i think we have a long history in this country of criminalizing African Americans and latino people. And i think that thats what the administration is playing upon. And its really its sad. Im embarrassed as an american. And, you know, there is a real conversation to have, absolutely, about policies at the border. And i think the democrats actually allow the Trump Administration far too much space to operate on hate and fear when they dont offer an alternative vision for the country that is comprehensive. And so if they are not telling the story to the American People about how we can have safe, secure and fair borders humanely and with respect and Human Dignity, then they are allowing donald trump to fill that void with hate mongering and fear mongering at a time when hate crimes are on the rise and an election is on the horizon. And i think people really need to Start Talking about human rights and Human Dignity and where that fits into this conversation. Lucero, how about you . Yes, i think one thing thats important to remember is the immigrant community has been recruited so very dangerous sectors like the construction sector and the poultry industry where jobs theyre often exploited and jobs are very dangerous. This is not by accident. This is very intentional. And one thing thats important to really take into account in mississippi in particular and louisiana, Central American communities and asian immigrants rebuilt those areas after katrina. And again, there was a very specific recruitment of immigrants where employers, many were able to employ these individuals and are not being prosecuted. So, again, it really is about accountability and it is about our economy as a whole that benefits on the backs of these individuals. Unfortunately, the only ones that carry the burden are the immigrants. And at this time it is really important that we really look at all of the incidents that have happened in the last week in a much more historical lens. For the past 30 years, we have not had comprehensive immigration reform. Since 1986, weve seen the number of undocumented workers grow and the exploitation and fear in these communities grow as well. And so you see that the Latino Community is often vilified and scapegoated in this arena and, again, through this historical lens. So when were seeing these attacks, the raids in mississippi, the shootings in el paso, these all have a thorough lens we need to look at them through because, again, this is inaction by congress over 30 years. And now we have really the spark in the prairie fire, which is this president who is stoking the flames of hatred and really antiimmigrant sentiment that has led to what weve seen over the last week. And what do you say to people who hear about this or hear about it at a distance and say, okay, well, a lot of people are suffering, a lot of poor people are in america. A lot of people were born here and have very little access to anything and they say why should those Public Benefits be going to people who come here. One thing thats important is it was one of 200,000 individuals who submitted Public Comments to the charge. One thing that is important is immigrants are the economic engine of this country in many ways and have been producing economically for generations. And so it is its lopsided to say that immigrants are not contributing to the economy. Rtr final rule suggests, immigrants are not using Public Benefits. Oftentimes they are not eligible for those benefits, and so, again, this come pain and this final rule is really about stoking fear and really creating this otherness and fear of the other so that voters and other individuals who may not have enough information or who are really going to look at the politics as opposed to the policy issues will look to their immigrant neighbors and their immigrant brothers and sisters as the other, as competition in an economic environment when, again, these individuals are working in industries that are dangerous, that are often under paid and do need to be regulated. And, again, being immigrants in the United States does not allow them to take advantage of any of these Public Benefits. Lucero ortiz, thank you so much for joining us. I turn back to the panel in new york. I wonder if we can build on that conversation because i do think there is a misunderstanding. It seems if you are here legally, there is a legal or illegal line undocumented. Thats right. If youre here legally, in theory, we want the whole thing to work together. If you start going down the road of having a blatantly twotiered, twoclass system, this was a Stephen Miller idea that says, were going to let people in. They are here legally. Whatever their race panelists are right to say much of this targets latinos. But whatever it is, oh, now, okay, you can be here, but you have to be higher class to stay or were going to punish you otherwise. Youre really going back to something we havent seen at least since the 65 immigration act under written law which is a twotier system. Its still about classism. This is still about how we know the folks that are coming through, that are immigrants that dont need benefits and theyre here legally look a certain way. Lets be clear about what that is. Right. And so this is yet another way they were losing the argument about illegal immigrants, and they knew they were losing it. Most of americans fear that if closing the doors to a path to Legal Immigration for folks is a mistake. So more and more of the American Public was looking for that opportunity to a path towards immigration reform. As they start to lose that battle, they need to find Something Else to kind of stoke the flames. Right. And this is it. Now its like, youre not going to get Public Benefits, but they dont ask for them. And before we go, mara, there are reports in the Washington Post that the president is upset about aspects of whats been happening. Najeel namely he doesnt like it when people call him racist. He says hes a branding he recoils from being called the r word even though some of his actions and words have been, quote, plainly racist. Well, a racist is as a racist does. I mean, i dont know how else to say it. He has routinely deployed racist language, racist practices since long before he was president of the United States. He seems more concerned about being called something that is offensive but is accurate than he does about actually doing something about racism. So i would, i would if i were sitting here in front of him, i would suggest that he, you know, take a long, hard look in the mirror ive got to go, but i will just add that while the standards are low these days, treating a fundamental moral crisis is a branding crisis. Always a bad sign. Well said. Thanks to both of you for your expertise and kicking off our show tonight. We have a lot more including Donald TrumpsJustice Department under fire for their contributions to the conditions that may have led to the suicide death of Jeffrey Epstein. Also, Gene Robinson is here on trumps embrace of an epstein Conspiracy Theory and why were debunking it without spreading it. Well explain. 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How the Trump Administration managed to allow one of the most notorious prisoners in its custody Jeffrey Epstein to die in a suicide. Reports of a prior attempted suicide, the d. O. J. Removed him from suicide watch and violated policy by removing a cell mate and having required checkups twice an hour. He and donald trump are responsible for the d. O. J. s prison system and the epstein case provides a lens for how this all runs in the trump era. Starved like many other federal programs, it has been running while missing roughly onethird of the needed staff. And while that explains part of why the ground level enforcement was so strained, trump has also given the short shift at the top. Keeping four cabinet level officials, having only temporary acting heads. Well, that approach also in play at the d. O. J. s Prison Bureau which is only an acting director. The number two position totally empty. These are the kind of staffing holes trump has tried to claim are some kind of positive. I sort of like acting. Gives me more flexibility, do you understand that . I like acting. So we have a few that are acting. That approach to the federal prisons does not look strong or flexible now, and this is a fitting time to note the broader problem. Of the 700 plus major roles that trump can a point, he still left 141 with no nominee. The buck is supposed to stop with the person in charge of a department. If their boss leaves those posts open, then the buck presumably has so top with the people who left those posts open. Bill barr and donald trump. Im joined now by a former prosecutor in the Southern District of new york, jamie naladay. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. This looks like a huge blunder for mr. Barr. It is a huge blunder. His comments about it were bizarre to say the least. We will know there are two investigations going on in the wake of epsteins death. There is an fbi investigation, which, of course, is looking into whether there was any criminal conduct in connection with epsteins death. Theres also a d. O. J. Inspector general investigation going on which is sort of the watch dog for d. O. J. And is looking at the failure of to follow processes and protocols that were in place. I dont want to put too fine a point on it, but youre saying on monday, they, they have assigned a whole lot of new people in the d. O. J. To look into how the d. O. J. Messed this up over the weekend, when they didnt have enough people working on this. Right. I mean, so for that reason barr shouldnt be commenting at all while these investigations are pending. But to the extent that he is commenting, he should, of course, be taking responsibility for this. Well, he actually has a bit of the a bit of the, im surprised theres shocking gambling going on here and hes in charge of everything. Take a listen, as you say, to what hes been saying. I was appalled and indeed the whole department was, and frankly angry, to learn of the mccs failure to adequately secure this prisoner. We are now learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deeply concerning and demand a thorough investigation. He is the mcc. He is responsible for the acting director. He is responsible for the vacant number 2. Do you think if there had been fewer funding and staffing shortages, they might have had a better chance to keep this prisoner alive . Thats certainly a possibility. Prison staff is never the area you should be cutting costs in. When you cut costs among prison staff, youre putting youre creating a dangerous situation all the way around. Youre putting inmates at risk, either risk of harming themselves as happened here, risk from other inmates. The staff are put much more at risk. This is part of the reason people think private prisons have been such a failed social experiment. So this has been deemed an apparent suicide at this point. If it was a suicide, why did Jeffrey Epstein commit suicide . Well, its not that surprising that he would have maybe had suicidal thoughts given the lifestyle he was living before he was arrested. He suddenly in his cell now contemplating the rest of his life in prison. Its a very unpleasant place to be. A sense of hopelessness would not have been surprising at all. So we have the prior Suicide Attempt here. Hes on suicide watch. He comes off suicide watch. And maybe that by itself is not so unusual. People typically dont stay on suicide watch for very long within the b. O. P. , but all these other failures as well. The shortage of staff, which meant you just didnt have enough people to be watching him. The best way to prevent a suicide is to have this particular inmate under continuous observation. That was simply impossible for the mcc to do. Jamie nolady working in the department that handles the case, thank you for your expertise. Next we debunk conspiracy theories without repeating them. Gene robinson is here. Were back in 30 seconds. Were back in 30 seconds the highest level of safety possible. How many does your brand have . One. Three. How about nine . Subaru has more 2019 top safety pick plus awards than honda and toyota brands. Combined. Theres safe, and then theres subaru safe. avo get 0 during the subaru a lot to love event. Taking a wider lens of the story weve been covering, right now donald trump is on defense again over his approach to indicted epstein. This is the third time trump finds himself under fire over epstein. The prosecutor who gave epstein that lenient deal was ousted from trumps cabinet a month ago. Footage of trumps own past socializing with epstein has leaked, which casts a shadow over their relationship. Now Donald Trumps d. O. J. Faces allegations it handled epstein as a prisoner enabling his suicide while trump left key vacancies at the bureau. As we just mentioned, thats a lot of epstein problems for donald trump, and hes trying to deflect from this crisis by now spreading conspiracy theories about this apparent suicide. Which, as i note, many believe Donald Trumps d. O. J. Might have done more to help prevent. Now, on thi newscast tonight, were not going to show the tweets about those unfounded conspiracies. Im not going to summarize them. Im not even going to mention Donald Trumps targets because thats precisely the goal of this kind of propaganda, to get the lies and innuendo somehow in the information stream, get people talking about it, get the lies repeated, even if for the purposes of fact checking. You should know, however, that over 60 million online accounts have now been exposed to what trump posted and he may not be a student of history, but historians have tracked the dangers of this kind of propaganda featuring heated exaggeration and conspiratorial fantasy for a long time. The villains of the modern right are much more vivid of those than their paranoid predecessors, much better known because of mass media. Reading the words of historian richard hoff stater who wrote that in 1964, today some of the symptoms are similar, maybe recognizable to you. The media, of course, is faster, more intense, and usually cant be turned off. Now, there is no equivalence between a sitting president s actions and those of random or less powerful citizens. But i also want to note tonight that some trump critics are echoing his very tactic. They are taking to the internet. This was happening yesterday and today with posts, that accuse trump of that same Conspiracy Theory, but trying to apply it to him. As the New York Times notes, its a cycle of conspiracy showing how Information System is increasingly poisoned. Im joined now by Gene Robinson, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the Washington Post. Good to see you, sir. Good to be here, ari. I want to deal with this carefully as i know a serious journalist like you does. Were very careful about what were mentioning and what were diagnosing. Number one, what does it mean that the president jumps towards that deflection . And number two, without equivalence, but with observation, does it concern you that some of the president s fiercest critics then say, okay, well, i know you are and throw it back at him . Well, number one, this is a president , this is a person who has long been enamored of conspiracy theories. Going way back to his time long before he got into politics, when he was just donald trump the character. He loved conspiracy theories and, you know, is it appropriate for someone even seeking high office, let alone occupying the office of president of the United States, to get into this sort of thing . Of course, not. Does donald trump care in the least whats appropriate . No. Does he want to deflect attention from the fact, perhaps, that Jeffrey Epstein was effectively in his custody and mistakes were made . Maybe he does. I dont know what his motive is, but, you know, it is deeply concerning. It is also concerning that there would be sort of tit for tat conspiracy theories aimed at him. You know, conspiracy theories are 99. 9 nuts to begin with. These are all made up out of home cloth. There are investigations that have to take place and that should be taking place now. And so lets find out what happened and how it happened and why it happened. And what do you think i mean, as i mention, he may not be a master strategist. We dont have any reason to believe hes read mr mr. Hoffstaters study of the paranoid style. But he certainly has a knack for it. As you say, you put your finger on it, gene. It is donald trump and bill barr that left the vacancies open, that cut the funding, that were on notice that the person in their custody was on suicide risk. As we were just covering. And theyre the ones with egg on their face and he doesnt even think he doesnt hold a strategy meeting. He knows immediately to try to get his base and as we mention some of his loudest critics basically stirring in the same pot, getting away from the fact. The fact is they are in charge of this prisoner. They own the mistake. They own the mistake, right. And so for not just for the president to come out the way he did, but for barr to say, well, im angry about this. Does anyone in this administration know how to say, im sorry . Know how to express regret for an obvious mistake . This is a prisoner in your custody, and he apparently committed suicide. You say its an apparent suicide, and that shouldnt have happened. So you should i think acknowledge that and acknowledge that, that this was a big screwup on the part of your department. And can no one in this administration be bothered to staff the federal bureaucracy at any level with competent people who see the holes in the system, who see deficiencies in the system, who are smart enough and experienced enough to know when you dont have, say, enough correctional guards on duty at the mcc, whatever the problem happens to be. You say barr uses the word angry. Umhmm. That is an aggressive emotion. That would be something that you are angry at someone else for their actions presumably. A right. The word he should seek is ashamed. Exactly. Because its his actions, its his b. O. P. While hes been busy doing these other things, during the weekend when he needs to write letter summaries. But who is working this past weekend and why is the deputy position vacant and why werent they doing more . These are the serious questions. Right. I was always taught that leadership involves taking responsibility, taking responsibility for the bad as well as the good. And then pointing the way forward. But until you take responsibility, you really cant effectively lead in my opinion. Gene, i want to get you on one other thing, different topic. Today marks the twoyear anniversary, if were going to call it that, of charlottesville. Yes, umhmm. And it comes after the horrors of last week. I think many of our viewers would be curious your thoughts as we reflect on this period. Well, you know, charlottesville was a defining moment in this, in this presidency and unfortunately defined a whole lot of whats come afterwards. But you know, one interesting thing now as you look back, look at the anniversary two years ago, we are now at a point where major news organizations such as mine are just flatout describing many of the president s statements and actions as racist. Just sort of not not pulling punches. Not that it was pulling punches. Its just that were not accustomed to using that language. Not accustomed to drawing that conclusion. But the accretion of evidence and incident was such that its unavoidable. And so this is now part of the discussion. And i think, you know, two years after that seminole moment, i think its a healthy thing. Lets call it what it is and see if we can move on from here. Thats very interesting coming from your credentials and your perch and how that fits into what the policing is, how people think whats been exposed in front of our own eyes and how do we want to deal with it. EuGene Robinson, as always, great to see you. I appreciate your time, sir. Great to be here, ari. Thank you. Coming up we have some other topics including from gun control to Climate Change, issues that are popular with the public might actually be breaking through. Well explain. But first why the roger stone trial may turn on evidence from, yes, the godfather. Applebees handcrafted burgers now with endless fries starting at 7. 99. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. I can taste my beer i can taste my beer. I can taste his beer. I can taste your beer. I want to taste his beer. Samuel adams sam 76. Finally, a refreshing lager that you can taste. Barb, i can taste my beer. Finally, a refreshing lager that you can taste. Would shakespeare have chosen just some pens . Methinks tul pens would serve mlady well. Thanks. And a unicorn notebook get everything on your list. This weeks doorbuster 1inch binders for 1; 1 in store or online from the advisors at Office Depot Officemax. Why fingerstick when you can scan . 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They allege stone told him to pull a frank pentangeli, which is a reference to hiding from congress what you knew. Frank, of course, is the character from the godfather part 2 who played a mobster who was going to be a big witness, but then, in dramatic fashion, recanted right when he was supposed to talk to congress. I was in the Olive Oil Business with his father, but that was a long time ago. Thats all. He kept saying mike did this and Michael Corleoni did that. So i said, yeah, sure. This, that. Frank has come to embody witness tampering, at least on screen, and the feds saw that as key to evidence that goes against, yes, something that is serious. The obstruction case against one of Donald Trumps longestserving advisors. Now, heres whats new. The feds want to show that very clip you just saw to this jury for context. In a new filing, roger stones lawyers are pushing back. They argue that showing that clip, which, of course, is a topic stone brought up in his text, might create the impression that stone is somehow similar to a murderous ma fio so and could inflame the jury with threatening mafia references. Couple things here. One, roger stone started the mafia reference thing. Two, there is other kind of mitigation because stone claims that he was not really trying to refer to the movie and saying, dont talk, but rather referring to mr. Credicos habit of doing all kinds of impressions. And as you know, what everyone thinks of trumps obstruction issues and these aides to him and roger stone, we try to be fair here. And mr. Stone may have a point because mr. Credico does do impressions including from the godfather. Hes even done some when we were interviewing him on the beat. Youre gonna do a tricky Dick Richard Nixon on me. Hes a trickster. Roger stone is a shady character, okay. I know roger stone im doing my reagan right now. Its not a bad reagan. You know he worked for nixon. He did work for nixon. He also worked for donald trump. And he has a strange argument saying, no ones allowed to talk about the godfather references that he made. Whether the impression holds at trial, well be watching. When i come back, i have a report breaking down some of the biggest myths about gridlock in washington from guns to, yes, Climate Change. , Climate Change and this is me now i got Liberty Mutual. They customized my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. Then i won the lottery, got hair plugs, and started working out. And so can you only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Applebees handcrafted burgers now with endless fries starting at 7. 99. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. He borrowed billions donald trump failed as a businessman. And left a trail of bankruptcy and broken promises. He hasnt changed. I started a tiny investment business, and over 27 years, grew it successfully to 36 billion dollars. 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Well, its been calculated a few degrees rise in the earths temperature would melt the polar ice caps and the sea would fill a good portion of the mississippi valley. Tourists in glass bottom boats would be viewing the towers of miami through 150 feet of tropical water. That looks pretty prescient. This isnt just a concern for scientists or lib raltz. It may be a 50 r 50 country on many issues. 62 of americans say the government is doing too little, highest in 12 years. And they say a shift towards renewable energy, some republicans are urging action on Climate Change driven by shifting sentiment among, yes, republican voters. And party strategists are beginning to warn this could be an electoral time bomb. If politics is fractured and people can find their own political ideas reinforced, especially online, where are these majorities coming from . Planet earth. From the facts and the lived experiences of these mounting heat waves, wildfires, hurricanes, the flooding, the food devastation. There is a parallel here. Im not saying its the same, but there is a parallel to the realities of the gun epidemic. Its a hot button issue that cant just be suppressed with lies or kooky conspiracy theories. Harveys rains keep coming. The city is now facing an unprecedented flood event. It was not flooding nearly to the extent and the frequency it does now. The macpherson bayou has been spilling over and creeping closer to her front door every year. When we had a rain event, were not getting an inch, were getting 2, 3, 4 inches. This year many of the soybeans are too soggy to harvest. The temperature is shattering records, reaching 97 degrees monday. Were seeing homes completely destroyed, completely burnt to the ground. Thats reality. That is the reality that some politicians still deny when they try to convince the public, you, that there is nothing wrong at all, nothings changed and the people trying to save the earth are the real flat earthers. Global warming alarmists are the equivalent of the flat earthers. They dont like to look at the actual facts and the data. When you say that science is settle the a settleed and the overwhelming analysis comes to that conclusion, that is not correct. I have not seen proven proof that it is entirely manmade. Humans are not responsible for Climate Change. Its harder to claim that stuff. The climate, the extreme weather, its all part of our zeitgeist. It makes for fictional summer block busters. What youre seeing are two actual tornadoes striking Los Angeles International airport. Wait, wait. It looks like they joined in one large tornado. Oh, my god now, were not there yet, but one house of congress is using its power to start convening action on the climate issue. Weve had two hearings, really the first in eight years on Climate Change now that the democrats are in the majority. Now, its hard to see what this kind of shift as it happens, if there is a shift, but this could be a rare issue where there is some consensus about the problem out there. There is some interest in solutions, and thats partly because the problem cant really credibly be denied any more. That brings us to the other Public Health crisis. I mentioned, which has been consuming the nation last week, but is really like this is a reality every week in america. The sad number on your screen, 9,000 people dead from guns just this year. Its an epidemic. Now, we dont know if Climate Change would coalesce into a super majority, but we do know that certain gun Safety Measures already have. We can easily lose sight of this fact congress isnt the only place for reform. Theres been a surge in state control gun laws. While the debate has long been stuck in kind of a binary split about gun splint about gun rights, the growing public demand for action on this is clear, 93 of americans now on board with implementing those background checks. Gun owners support background checks along with the majority of republicans, and some of our brightest political minds are stressing that the good part of the gun defense, which is selfdefense, saving lives, can apply to this issue, if a gun can save a life, most nonpass v would agree thats the good part. Thats the argument catching hold from this influential voice. The Second Amendment fundamentally, if you think about it, is about protecting human beings, thats what it was written, about protecting human beings. What is the good of writing a law that now protects the guns as opposed to the human beings. The Public Opinion and policy on guns seem to have been misaligned for a long time. Major support for gun control hasnt always moved the needle, we know that. Republicans have been insulated and funded by a gun lobby, and that divide cast between party lines between for and against has hobbled this issue. Take a look at this as we think about changes. For the first time in decades, in the 2018 midterms you had Gun Control Groups outspending the nra itself. And just as with that reality that i mentioned of Climate Change actually happening in a way that people cant deny and even costing people their livelihoods or lives which is hard to ignore, well, in this case, the sad steady march of Mass Shootings has more people chanting do something, which politicians ignore at their peril. Theres the change we saw in ohio, and we covered that last week. Donald trump talking background checks, theres now republican lawmakers and even the selfdeclared grim reaper himself. No matter what happens, im never going to stop standing up for the constitution and that means standing up for your Second Amendment rights. This kentuckian will continue to fight for your right to bear arms. Senator graham and senator blumenthal, a republican and democrat are developing a red flag piece of legislation. Theres also been some discussion about background checks. Thats an issue thats been around for a while. Those are two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass. That sounds like a lift and the point here is not to automatically believe politicians when they act, but we are seeing some movement. On some of these gun safety bills, the debate has sudden shifted from a traditional pro and con to what you might call people who back these measures versus people who pretend they do. And that tells you something about where they think their constituents are and the limits of any political position built on denying reality even in our propaganda filled time. 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