Support for trump. Today also brought three new targets of these bombings adding kamala harris, cory booker and former intel chief james clapper. The latest news came just moments ago when donald trump said he will break tradition. He does not plan to ever call the other Public Officials targeted in these attempted bombings, and that of course comes right after hes been rallying supporters against the free press. If they wanted me to, but i think well probably pass. I get attacked. I think maybe more. Maybe more than anybody. I dont know. I can do the greatest thing for our country and on the networks and on different things, it will show bad. They will take it back yes, fake news. We all get attacked and were smart, and we understand where theyre all coming from. Later tonight trump will headline a political rally in North Carolina. Youre looking at live pictures there. Americans still digesting these images from the suspects white van. You see it there when it was on the move. It was covered originally in trump political stickers, one side featuring multiple images of people who are, of course, targeted by these explosive devices. One says cnn sucks with the cross hairs over cnn anchor van jones and the words dishonest media. Another shows a target over Hillary Clintons face. You can also see president obama with a menacing target on him as well as a right wing meme that attacked Michelle Obama and a photo shopped image of trump standing astride a tank. The fbi was careful to stress much is still unknown about the man who owned this van. While today attorney general Jeff Sessions said this. Could you tell us plainly why was he targeting democrats . I dont know other than what you might normally expect. He may have been appears to have been partisan, but that would be determined by the facts. In a moment we will talk about the partisanship awash in these fights. I want to begin with an update from frank laguzi who is a former assistant fbi director for counter intel. And knows these situations well. What did we learn today that we didnt know at the earlier pace before there was an arrest . So while we were getting our First Insights into what may be inside the mind of this man, its on the outside of his van, and its on his social media and his twitter feed and he seems to be motivated by politics and partisanship, and we see the fbi director and the attorney general clearly stating, number one, not a hoax, not a conspiracy. Number two, this is about partisanship. Theyre going to have some time and effort to get into his head and have him articulate whats going on, and i will warn you that it might not make much sense to logical people, but we are now getting our First Insight into that. We have been very careful in our coverage about what we dont know because you didnt have a suspect. You certainly didnt have the kind of images youre seeing now. What youre saying from an fbi sbe intel perspective is that what we see on that van, what we see in that political imagery rhetoric propaganda you view as part of the investigation into motive . Its going to go directly toward prosecutors decisions on what to actually charge ultimately because theyre going to be looking at the possibility of terrorism charges, weapons of mass destruction charges, which ive seen charged for much less than this. So that does play into the prosecutors decision. What was he intending, what was motivating him, what was the message he was trying to send. If it was political, youre going to see additional charges that are far more serious. As we keep moving here, brad galvin is a former atf agent and a specialist in explosives joining us. When you look at the emphasis of the fbi that these were real, the fact that they did not go off doesnt mean they could not go off, what else are we going to learn about that piece of the investigation . So because the devices didnt function doesnt mean that they werent functioning devices, either that they were not triggered in the manner that the bomber had designed them to be or maybe that there was a flaw in his design. He could have just done something wrong with the circuitry, but that doesnt mean that they couldnt function and that they werent fully functional and didnt have all the necessary components, which would actually make an improvised explosive device. And so when you look at the point that frank mentioned in closing, could the nature of the explosives add to later charges as well . Well, it certainly could. The number of devices that hes used. Each one is going to carry substantial charges. The fact that he put those into the mail service are additional charges. He also touched on weapons of mass destruction, which is an additional charge. These are severe penalties, and as of now, we have 13 separate individual incidents in which they will have multiple charges for each incident. So i see that the prosecutors are going to completely overwhelm him with appropriate charges, which will send him away for a very, very long time. Brad and frank, on the investigation, my thanks to you both. We do turn now to the politics. Barack obama in detroit at this hour for a democratic rally appearing with eric holder. Both of them are targeting in these mailings, and Vice President joe biden, another target said this. This division, this hatred, this ugliness, it really has to end, and words matter. Our political opponents, though, are not our enemies. The press is not the enemy of the people. Folks were a lot better than this. We just have to remember who we are. What we stand for as a nation. Joe biden doing there what President Trump will not. Were also learning about a new suspicious package today that was addressed to someone you may be familiar with, tom steyer who is a democratic donor. It was intercepted by investigators out in california. We dont know, to be clear, how or if this relates to the other intercepted devices. We did speak to mr. Steyer because he fits into some of the people who are now in this literal battlefield, and when we spoke to him this week, here is what steyer said on the beat. I view these attacks as profoundly antidemocracy and basic terrorist attacks. Im very concerned about the safety and health of everybody that i work with, but i dont think that we can let this kind of terrorism change our participation in the american political system and in our democracy. That is one of the central questions we face, and i want to turn to Washington Post columnist ej and New York Times mara gay. What else should be done . Frankly i dont think that we can expect at this point the president to act as we need the leader of a democracy to act at this moment. I think its incumbent upon all republican politicians in particular in this time of Intense Division and tribalism to condemn not just these attacks but to tone down their rhetoric and condemn overheated rhetoric that is not just partisan. Its not just about, oh, lets be together and lets be unified. Its about vilifying as former Vice President joe biden said, vilifying our political enemies to the point where they are antiamerican because they disagree with us or they are even subhuman in some cases. I mean, some of this rhetoric is straight out of the White Nationalist movement. I think that needs to remain on the fringes of society, instead of what President Trump has done and his movement has done which is to bring that and welcome that into the mainstream, as though thats acceptable behavior, and thats part of the problem. We really need to isolate Political Violence for the extremist antidemocratic behavior it is. Its not acceptable, and our democracy cant be healthy and function in an environment of political terrorism. E. J. . Well, i think that the truth of the matter is that President Trump has shown from the beginning of his run for president that dividing the country is central to his strategy, so its not just that he is incapable character logically of being a unifying president , its actually that National Unity is the enemy to his political project. He has to keep people divided around race, around immigration, around gender to keep his movement going. And the problem with expecting republicans to speak out is trump really has both he not only transformed the Republican Base. The Republican Base was moving in this direction before trump came along, and he just realized it early. On the other hand, i thought that speech by joe biden was fascina fascinating. It is not only what you would expect a president to sound like at a time like this, but i think he actually laid out the rationale for a biden for President Campaign if he does run for president. You can actually imagine biden saying im only going to serve one term. Somebody has to bring the country together. Im the guy to clean up after trump, bring us back together, and then we can move on. I think youre going to be hearing a lot of talk like that from joe biden, not only in this period but going forward. What does it tell you that the president didnt think twice about very directly saying this bothers him, these attempted murders, because they could hurt his political standing and the Republican Party in the midterms . Look, i think e. J. Is exactly right. Division is actually the heart of his agenda, and i think thats kind of a dark thing to consider, but when you listen to the president , you cant help but ask yourself is his interest in the American People and in democracy or is his interest in himself, in his party, in Something Else . Mmhmm. E. J. , take a listen to what the fbi director said about the work that went into solving this relatively quickly. These are not hoax devices. I want to focus for a moment on the amazing work of our folks at the fbi lab. Based on their initial analysis, they uncovered a latent fingerprint from one of the envelopes containing an ied that had been sent to congresswoman maxine waters. We have confirmed this fingerprint is that of cesar sayoc. Its a contrast to the president there praising the work of others, the Public Servants who risked their lives, slamming that language of hoax or fake, which of course the president embraces, so i give that for your response, and i also want to report to our viewers nbc news now 6 12 p. M. On the east coast is confirming that tom steyer package, the democratic donor who we said received a package is related. That brings this up to a number of 14 people according to authoriti authorities. E. J. , your view . When you i think the first thing we should do is salute Law Enforcement for incredible competence, but i also think we should salute Law Enforcement for solving this thing so quickly and blocking some of this outlandish lying, this made up story that somehow and this was getting a lot of transaction on right wing websites and elsewhere that this was actually just a big hoax put on by liberals. No, it wasnt a hoax created by liberals, gentleman, whatever we know about him was clearly on President Trumps side of politics. The second thing we should contemplate is that tweet from the president where he referred to this as bomb stuff. Now, thats really amazing. These are potential attacks on i guess now 14 americans if my math is right and including two former president s of the United States, and here you have President Trump referring to it as just bomb stuff and talking about his main concern being, gee, this could get in the way of the republican surge that was allegedly happening. Its just mind boggling to contemplate that. We are looking at a live picture here in charlotte, North Carolina of air force one touching down, where the president will give this political rally. You mentioned the conspiracy theories and the voice thats been given to them. Nbc reporters heard that from some members of the rally awaiting the president. Im actually going to speak later to reporters on that as well as the trump surrogate pressing them on those issues. The president will have a lot of people watching now his first rally since his first public outdoor rally since this suspect was apprehended. Thanks to e. J. Deon and mara gay for joining us. We have a lot more. Were going to speak to a woman who said she was on the receiving end of a threat from this bomb suspect. Shes speaking out for the first time on the beat. Thats coming up. Were going to break down this extraordinary scene when a rally basically came in today at the white house. They like the globe. I like the globe, too. I like the globe, too, but we have to take care of our people. We have to. And a story were staying on top of, democrats in correct me if im wrong calling for a formal probe into President Trumps iphone security lapse. 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President trump condemning the violence in his prepared remarks, but then defaulted to attacking the press. We must never allow Political Violence to take root in america, cannot let it happen, and im committed to doing everything in my power as president to stop it. Americans must unify, and we must show the world that we are united together in peace and love and harmony as fellow american citizens. Come to think of it, who gets attacked more than me . Ky i can do the greatest thing for our country, and on the network it will show bad. Trump also claimed he wouldnt name any specific News Organization. The bomber of course targeting cnn in new york, but this week trump has been attacking cnn by name and lamenting that this whole story could hurt him politically. Few president s have ever said Something Like that in public, lamenting a security scare that could risk americans lives would simply hurt them politically. The president s comments come as were still learning the extent of the bombing suspects activities. His public postings and other threats may not have been acted on. Sayoc posted violent rhetoric about joe biden and eric holder and people involved in politics. This month he wrote a threat on twitter to michelle richie. Sayoc alluded to a silent boat ride saying hug your loved ones real close every time you leave home. She says the bomb suspect was threatening her, that was as recently as two weeks. It was after an appearance she made on another network. Shes a political analyst. Im joined by writer julani cobb from the new yorker. How do you feel tonight watching the arrest of this man who you now know threatened you this month . Im angry. Im very angry. It is time for us to turn down the rhetoric. The clip you played where the president said he is willing to do everything in his power to make sure we dont have this Political Violence. Hes willing to do everything except for change his own tone, change his own rhetoric. Ha is very frustrating for me. When i found out that i had been contacted by this bombing suspect, i was liveid, and i wa scared. I was also scared for my family. I think what people fail to realize is that these packages are going to politicians and high profile celebrities. However whats not happening is that these packages are not being opened by president obama, right . Theyre not being opened by Hillary Clinton. Average americans like myself, their staff, their assistants are opening these packages. My mails not vetted through the secret service to determine if theres anthrax or a pipe bomb inside of it. I live in manhattan. Why do you think he targeted you . I have no idea. He wrote me on october 11th. On that day i was making some comments about kanye west. Im not sure if that is what sparked him to contact me. I know ive done some commentary on other more conservative networks, so im not sure if that was it, but it was after an appearance that i had on a conservative network. Im used to this. Im used to being called the nword, the bword, whatever, but when you start to threaten my life. Youre talking about the difference of rhetoric and this threat by a person who is taking action. I want to play for you the way donald trump has main lined and encouraged violence as a political movement. Take a look. Would you yourself pledge to tone down the rhetoric . I think ive been toned down, if you want to know the truth. I could really tone it up. As you know, the media has been extremely unfair to me and the Republican Party. Getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of him, would you. Smiling, laughing, id like to punch him in the face, ill tell you. Get him out. Try not to hurt him. If you do, ill defend you in court, dont worry about it. When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy way gogon, you just see t thrown in rough, i said please dont be too nice. Any guy that can do a body slam, hes my kind of. Yeah. This is the logical extension of the kind of campaign that he ran, and theres a theme here kind of consistently that when an incident like this happens, he makes the pro forma necessary statement of, oh, this is terrible, but soon he kind of defaults back to the norm. So you notice that he was very ambivalent, and then under pressure he said some things about the horrific murder of jamal khashoggi, and then he couldnt resist going back to criticizing media again. Then in the midst of this, were seeing the people who have been targeted have all been targeted if you look in his twitter feed, these are all people who have found their way into his cross hairs on social media, and then someone is acting on this. Weve seen consistently his presidency has been one in which hes engaged with all of the rights and none of the responsibilities, and so if anything goes wrong as opposed to the buck stops here, its its not my fault. Im being wrongly blamed. So this is a kind of what is the presidency if not the person who sets the moral and social and cultural tone of the moment in which they preside. Hes either inept and weak, if he has nothing to do with this context or hes irresponsible and refusing to take responsibility for what he has partly inspired. Yeah, responding to that, you know, i as a former reporter as someone who worked as a press secretary for congress, i try to, as much as i can, be responsible in the way in which i frame my comments, even if i disagree wh someone that may have more conservative views, and its unfortunate that i am able to do that as someone who is not the president of the United States and yet, we have a president who is incapable of doing the same thing. He clearly lacks leadership, and i also want to say i did report this to twitter. A lot of people asked me about that. I did report it to twitter, and twitter responded to me and told me that the language they saw was not abusive behavior, and now since right before coming onto your show after i had tweeted the photo, they have now sent me a message that said this was sent in error, that their previous message of saying this was not abusive was sent in error, and now they realize that this language was abusive and they have since suspended his account. This is the thing, is it going to take a bomb going off, is it going to take my body or someone elses body being in the everglades in order for these social media accounts to take what were saying seriously. This is not just democratic commentators that are receiving these sort of threats. Conservatives are as well, and its not okay on either side. I do not agree with harassing, following, punching people in the face. I dont agree with any of it. But a public direct action is not morally or legally equivalent, even if it might be in someones face, quote unquote, to the violence were seeing right now . Absolutely not but theres a long established law around incitement. We do believe that words you express have some sort of correlation to peoples actions. Beyond that, i think that resorting to Political Violence is selfdefeating and extremely dangerous, but were not looking at an even handed scenario here. As a matter of fact, when studies have been done the most recent one said that twothirds of the Political Violence in this country has been right wing extremism. Theres a narrative around right wing terrorism that we dont realize that theres this stream that goes from dylann roof to the copy cat people who were inspired by dylann roof, the murdered nine africanamericans in the church this charleston in 2015 through charlottesville. It runs through charlottesville into what were seeing now, and for a minute i think we have to actually just be very clear and specific in our language. We are dealing with attempts at political assassination in the United States. Yeah. And when that happens, you open up an entirely different set of political circumstances. And look at what just happened in kentucky where the guy walked into the Grocery Store and shot a man in the back of the head. You know, i live my family is in lexington, kentucky, not too far from jefrson town outside of louisville, kentucky, and this man walked in and shot a black man in the back of the head because he is black. That is where we are in this country. Thats why when we talk about hate crimes mattering because of the target, and we talk about the Political Violence that is targeting as a mart of intent and that kind of terrorism, because thats an ingredient of it, thats so important. I appreciate the conversation. I appreciate you sharing your story, Rochelle Richie and jelani, my thanks to both of you. What were going to do is take a look in the next block at where this conversation goes and what the accountability should be. Meanwhile, they are chanting lock them up inside the white house. Were back in 30 seconds. The wh house. Were back in 30 seconds okay. [ buttons clicking ] [ camera shutter clicks ] so, now that you have a house, you can use homequote explorer. Quiet. Im blasting my quads. Janice, look. Im in a meeting. Janice, look. [ chuckles ] look, look. Im looking. Its easy. You just answer some simple questions online, and you get Coverage Options to choose from. Youre ruining my workout. Cycling is my passion. Were hearing that for the first time. Youre seeing what occurred moments ago a cnn sucks chant loudly breaking out an hour before donald trump will take the stage in charlotte. Its on the same day that authorities arrested a person who tried to bomb cnn. Americans have been riveted by some of the images from his van plastered with protrump stickers and violent imagery, and the sticker about fake news, also the president s obsession with cnn. Trump fans typically attack that. This was today inside the white house where trump cabinet member ben carson did not condemn what was before him. The only thing you heard from a bunch of the media was carson wants to triple the rents on the most vulnerable people. What a bunch of crap. What a bunch of crap. Globalists, they like the globe. I like the globe, too. I like the globe, too, but we have to take care of our people. We have to. A lot of parts of this are a tough topic. Were going to get right into it. In a moment im going to be joined by Clarence Page whos been critical of much of this conduct at the trump administration. I want to begin with a wellestablished republican official and former chair of the nevada gop. Thank you for skroing me tonight. Thank you for having me, i appreciate it. Isnt this the wrong time for anyone affiliated with donald trump, fans, supporter, cabinet member, the president himself, to be denigrating a News Organization that was the target of this bombing . Well, i dont think theres ever a right time. We do have a president who has been unfairly treated by the majority of those in the media, so you also have a president who is going to fight back. I dont think its okay for rhetoric on either side whether it be with the media or with this administration or on the left or on the right. Im trying to get a straight answer, are those chants that are targeting cnn and what ben carson couldnt stand up to, those are wrong . Of course, absolutely. I also want to play Something Else thats got a lot of people concerned when you look at what happened. The fbi, these Public Servants deserve obviously some for what looks like a positive outcome in the operation. At this very rally, im going to get your response, nbc news talking to some Trump Supporters who dont believe what the trump administrations own officials are saying about this suspect. Take a look. And Hillary Clinton probably sent hers to herself. So you dont think this guy actually sent these bombs to these officials . Probably not. Why . They probably had it done. They may have paid him to do it. Thats out there. Thats being main lined. Do you want to Say Something to those Trump Supporters who now allege that these targets sent the bombs to themselves contrary to what the fbi has found and put out today . Well, i think that we should take a step back and once again, like you said, applaud the fbi for their hard work in finding this crazy person. The president has said it himself, so for those Trump Supporters who are following lock and step with him, i think that we need to take his direction and what do you just be grateful. Im asking you as a former chair of the nevada Republican Party, what do you want to say to that person whos at that rally who is alleging that the targets sent the bombs to themselves . Well, new york cityo, obviou got people far to the right, far to the left. There are conspiracy theorists all over the gamut, but we dmo know now without a shadow of the doubt that the fbi has taken this crazed individual into custody, so i think that we need to move on and we need to take a step back this is the issue, and im going it bring in Clarence Page. I try to deal with these things in a civil way and for real. How do we move on and ill say it, im not afraid of that person or anyone else, but that person is wrong. They are wrong. Yes, absolutely. So will you say that . Why is it hard to get there . No, its not hard to get there, but we cant control crazy. We can still sit there and try to explain until were blue in the face that it is wrong. It is wrong whether youre on the left, it is wrong whether youre on the right. That kind of statement is flat out wrong, and i think as people in roles such as yours, such as mine, such as the president s, that it is our duty to make sure that we try to make sure that we lead by example. So i think this is very healthy discussion that were having and that hopefully people will listen and do the same thing. Stay with me, i want to bring in Clarence Page as promised from the Chicago Tribune how do you view this when it comes to the question of Political Leadership . What i showed here from ben carson on parts of what donald trump has said fall short of what amy and i talked about which is standing up unequivocally. The unfortunate thing about this whole episode is its showing us who Donald Trumps true base is. The Republican Party like the democrats really have several bases. Trump from the very beginning has appealed to the basest of the base, those who are so distrusting of the system and so resentful of it in many cases they hasnt voted in years, he brought them out. He increased the vote output, the turnout among republicans, and the problem these days is among reasonable sane republican incumbents, its hard for them to even criticize donald trump without risking their own political futures. What should be done . We should be like we were after 9 11 when president george w. B bush brought this country together with his speeches. When members of congress in both houses came out on the steps and sang God Bless America together. I have my doubts that we could get both members to come together this weekend to sing God Bless America because theres so much tension. Im afraid this that fellow whom the fbi has caught its ironic to hear President Trump bash the fbi one day as part of a deep state experticonspiracy n praise them when theyre doing the job they do so well. I think we would be really hard pressed it find those moderate voices right now. I cant remember an election in my lifetime that ive been more eager to see just get over with. Amy, briefly were out of time but i want to give you a final thought . Sure, well, what the other gentleman just said is unfortunate, the fact that he doesnt believe that we can come together this weekend. I think hes saying that the climate that he thinks donald trump has set. Yes, absolutely. I think if we can go out there, people such as himself, myself, and you ari and try to change the narrative and say, hey, look, we are excited about moving this nation forward together, lets see how we can work together. We can stand for what we believe in but we dont need to throw puf punches. To the extent theres overlap, we welcome it. It is a hard conversation for some reason at this point in history. Amy and clarence thanks to both of you. Donald trump is under fire for these reports that spies are listening in on some of his phone calls and he wont use a secure phone. S and he wont usea secure phone comfort. What we deliver by delivering. Our because of smoking. Ital. But we still had to have a cigarette. Had to. But then, we were like. What are we doing . The nicodermcq patch helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. Nicodermcq. You know why, we know how. Monitor their blood glucose every day. Which means they have to stop. And stick their fingers. Repeatedly. Today, lifechanging technology from abbott makes it possible to track glucose levels. Without drawing a drop of blood, again and again. The most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. Life. To the fullest. 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The jokes write themselves. President trump has two official iphones, one that is used for calls, and one that is used for twitter and other apps. He also has an android that he uses mainly as his Vice President. Every day some poor chinese spy has to hear a mcdonalds employee patiently explain to the president that he doesnt know when the mcrib is coming back. You cant take my iphone, im up to level 3 of fruit ninja, and my doctor says ive got to get my exercise and my fruit. Im joined by democratic congressman ted lieu from the judiciary committee. Former president obama also weighing in on this. Take a look. Hillarys emails, we were hearing emails everywhere. This is a National Security crisis. They didnt care about emails, and you know how you know . Because if they did, theyd be up in arms right now as the chinese are listening to the president s iphone that he leef leaves in his golf cart. It turns out i guess it wasnt that important. Congressman, snap . Thank you, ari. Donald trump needs to stop making phone calls from his cell phone now. He needs to do what obama did. Obama had a cell phone, but he was not allowed to make phone calls from it because your communications on your cell phone can be intercepted at the network level. It has nothing to do with your phone. Its an issue ive been working on for three years, and if anyone has access to a Telephone Network and the chinese and russians certainly do, they can listen in on anyones cell phone anywhere in the world if they have the cell phone number. So what are the democrats going to do if this investigation goes forward, if you guys went bain back the hou where does that lead . Going to have Oversight Committee hearings on the president s use of the cell phone. We know theres been other Lax Communications with the president. He has been using unsecured wifi at his resort in maralago. He has left his cell phone in unsecured places, and again, this is something that doesnt even have to do with the president s cell phone per se. Even his tweet shows he doesnt understand the problem. It has nothing to do with the phone, and the president just needs to stop making calls on his cell phones. Its up in the sky. You heard president obama make the comparison to clinton. We should note so folks understand the facts that the fbi looked at this. They did not find evidence suggesting her email server system were ever compromised by cyber means or foreign intrusion. What do you think about this supreme contrast that she wasnt hacked, although she got all that negative scrutiny, and he already has made himself vulnerable this way . It is absolutely hypocritical for the president to have constantly attacked secretary clinton for use of unsecured email server when hes using a phone over unsecured networks. In addition, its not even just monitoring of the president s cell phone. It could be that these Foreign Intelligence Services are monitoring the cell phones of his friends. The president is a heavily protected asset, but his friends are not. Its very easy for the chinese and russians to monitory their cell phones. Every time he calls them they can hear the conversations. You make a point thats relevant to the bejs aintelliged also the people the president is calling, which means hes literally putting them in more danger or more exposure because of that combination as youve outlined. Congressman ted lieu, this is an important story. Thank you for making time to talk to us about it. Thank you, ari. Coming up, we take a turn, and we sure could use it. Im very excited to say for the First Time Ever were bringing together sinbad and richard painter for a special edition of fall back friday. Thats next. Ion of fall back friday thats next. Open an e trade premium savings account and earn 1. 9 apy on your money. 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I just want you to know that never goes away. I was trying to Say Something inspirational, but you know, it went where it went. And richard painter, an ethics lawyer who served in the bush administration. In his current role he works at crew, citizens for ethics. Who needs to fall back . Pete donald san and arianna grande. They got to fall back together. They rushed into this. Rush means i love you. They had too much sex. Really . Thats your theory . Thats sex. Thats heat. Youre in heat. Youre not in love. Youre talking about passion and whether that can move you too fast in a relationship. Oh, yeah, youre like, oh my god, im going it tattoo your name all over my arm, im going to put your name on my finger. No. And you have mlk . Malcolm x. Do you have an Ariana Grande tattoo . No. You dont have room for that. Small, small. Ariana, she could fit right here. Richard painter who needs to fall back this week . Mitch mcconnell, and that has nothing to do with sex. Hes running around saying that the deficit is to be blamed on entitlements, and he talks about things like medicare and other programs that middle class americans depend upon. I mean, there are entitlements we shouldnt have. For example, the tax cut in 2017 for the top 1 , but Mitch Mcconnells out of control, and if he wants to cut back on medicare, i think the voters may cut back on republicans, and the other is kellyanne conway. Shes still talking about Hillary Clinton. With her Ivy League Law degree and through her marriage to a much more popular man who actually was a twoterm president that shell never be, i dont like that kind of talk, and i avoid it. Well, Kellyanne Conways husband has an Ivy League Law degree. He was in my class at yale. Hes an excellent lawyer, and he started off supporting donald trump, but take a look at his twitter feed. Gt conway the third rk, oh, it wonderful. Sinbad you see this class war fair thi we war fair thing on top of that they apply very selectively. None of these people understand the problems of folks who are trying to make itment look at mitch, if he was a regular dude hes at that age. Hes be trying to pick up some medication, but hes got great health care. So when that we pay for. These are the people who just eat the system up, trying to stay alive, try and get medication. Whats wrong with these people . Another important issue a fall back that comes from a very special fall back guest who basically is phoning into the beat, so to speak. I want you to take a look, a lot of our view ers know her, donna brazil. Georgias secretary of state brian kemp, it is time for him to recuse himself to allow every eligible citizen in the state of georgia to vote, to process those Voter Registration forms to allow people to get to the polls. Brian, you are fired. 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He says im going to protect your preexisting conditions while his Justice Department is in court right now trying to strike down those protections. That is not spin. Thats not exaggeration. Thats not trying to put a positive glow on things. Thats lying. As drake would say, whats that . Facts, health care, still a big issue out there even as Everything Else has been going on in our politics. That does it for you can always check out the beat at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. Msnbc. Trying to solve this murder, we were going to set a trap for three people, and i wasnt sure if it was going to work or not. It had to be perfect. He was a family man who didnt seem to have an enemy in the world right up until the night he was murdered. There was evidence of a violent struggle between jack and his killer. Someone was keeping secrets and police thought they knew who. Their tone was just scary. They thought they knew