1,000 times. What you see here are two things happening, first the white house trying to play down any risk to the president by arguing hes innocent. Which is a pretty standard response. But then, theres a second thing, which is President Trump talking openly about whether Michael Cohen would flip which can sound itself like an admission of guilt. Why . Well, think about it. You cannot flip on an innocent man because theres no material to incriminate him. We have more on that very point later on in this show. As for cohen, the heats only building, reports that as a lawyer he may have worked to silence another woman, hes now working with the feds as well. Lets start with kelley holida. Shelby in the world of trump land, which many of us have been educating ourselves on. Living day in and day out . Theres truly no one who plays the multiple roles like Michael Cohen does. Do you remember during the iraqi sanctions, they would look at certain tubes that were dual use, so they could be used for peaceful or military purposes. Cohen is sort of like that, except hes quadruple use. And what seems to be under review here is did he do some lawful things as a lawyer, did he do some shady things as a fixer and did he do some crimes. Hes involved in trumps real estate dealings, payments to women, he also raised money for donald trump during the campaign and hes not in the white house and people try to distance him from the Actual Campaign and the administration. Hes a very pivotal figure in Donald Trumps orbit. The question is what did he not do is more appropriate here. We do know he worked with lawyers to pay off women, of course trump still dednies thos things, but the story is really bothering trump, and we saw some stories this weekend. But hes attacking a reporter who wrote it. Hes attacking a former aid who basically just went out and said cohens a good guy, doesnt deconserd deserve to go to jail for donald trump. And you know, theres a saying in federal court, some of them want to use you, some of them want to be used by you. And that seems to be an issue. Sam nunberg who seems to be used by President Trump by hiss own admission. Nunberg said the softer side of President Trump, whenever anyone complains to me about trump screwing them over, my reflexive response is that they have nothing to complain about if youre not michael. We now see that comey has been a minugnon for President Trump. He paid top dollar for. Which in donald trump world is the biggest insult you can give someone, so basically youre a sucker, that has paid market price. So now we see the president unraveling in real time, you know on saturday and sunday morning, tweeting about this idea of flipping, you cannot flip if you are innocent, right . But we do know that cohen is used to these sort of low levels queens deals of hustling people in different buildings and like small time potatoes. This is now the federal government government. And i think donald trump has been replaying the situation over the year when he has belittled cohen. When the feds knock on the door, they already know what you know, they just want to know are you dumb enough to lie to them about what they already know. And what does cohen have to gain by staying loyal to the president . He didnt get a job in the white house, he didnt get to be in the inner circle of the administration, i dont know what he has to gain about keeping his mouth shut and possibly going to jail. Not jail, prison. Jail is where you go if you might going to prison. Hes looking at multiple prison sentences plural, if all those things are true. Hes looking at spending the rest of his life in prison. Thats a much larger conversation that you start to have with your wife and your family, like this man has essentially done nothing for you, besides, theres some money there, theres not that much money, right . Because we doe no that cohen had to take out a second mortgage on his own home to pay for the 130,000 that he gave Stormy Daniels on trump letter head. So hes been sloppy but no trump steak . Or vodka. Or trump vodka that we know of. Or champagne. See we do know that this man has put himself on the line for trump, and as shelby said, not really gotten much in return, so at what point does this inner circle say, cut your losses. He got a federal investigation, and hes trump lawyer which according to the feds, why is he in trouble for these things he was doing for trump . Im going to turn to the other story i mentioned, adult film star Jessica Drake now breaking her silence. Youll recall is one of the questions in the entire Stormy Daniels case is her ability to speak out without punishment may embolden others. Ms. Daniels releasing a sketch that she says threatened her to stay slentd about trump. Ms. Drake also says that trump offered her 10,000 for sex, allegedly during this 2006 lake tahoe event. Jessica drake was one of the women who chose to speak out when it counted politically before americans cast their ballot right in the middle of the 2016 election. When we entered the room, he grabbed each of us tightly in a hug and kissed each one of us without asking permission. Donald then asked me, what do you want . How much . After that, i received another call from either donald or a male calling on his behalf offering me 10,000. Within a week, trump lawyer Michael Cohen who we have been discussing had finalized that nda to keep Stormy Daniels quiet, also mentioned Jessica Drake has someone confided in by Stormy Daniels under one of those many stpseudonyms shes n here accompanied by her lawyer, gloria allred. Ms. Drake, why are you speaking out now and what do you want people to know . Im speaking out now not only to support stormy, but because women immediate to be heard and believed and also my name coming out on stormys nda, i needed to speak out, the press has been asking repeatedly and its time. When did you learn about your inclusion in that nda or was it along with the rest of it when it leaked. It was along with the rest of everyone when it leaked and when they put my legal name with my perform ever name, media actually showed up at my private home. And on this point about who said what when, you have said publicly that ms. Daniels is telling the truth, of course as you know, the president has called her by implication and you and others and you refer to basically all the women who have made these kind of accusations as liars. What is it specifically that you know that backs up her story or her voracity. Well, i was actually present in the room where we were first with donald in the hotel room in lake tahoe. And i met him early this morning and sort of was able to watch the entire situation unfold. Shortly after that, i was i was told what had happened that night and over the years have gotten more details about it as well. And you said point blank, he offered you money for sex . The offer was made, im i took it as if it was for sex because the calls that came prior to that were mr. Donald trump wants you to join him in his hotel room and then when i was speaking to mr. Trump himself on the phone, he asked me come on, come on up, what do you want . How much . And then the numbers started to come. And i have to ask this so that i just mean it in the sake of clarity. Do you know any reason why he would think or there would be evidence or indications that this was an interaction where money would Exchange Hands . Was there something that he was led to believe or was this his idea that he was introducing into the conversation. It it was nothing that i had led him to believe, but some people simply by my profession, people are under the mistaken impression that we are always available for hire. Gloria, what do you see as the key legal issues here . First of all, jessica did not know that she was listed by Stormy Daniels as a person in whom stormy had confided information about stormys relationship with mr. Trump. She didnt know that until after until it became public. Stormy never told her, Michael Cohen never told her, the likelihood is that neither of them wanted jessica, whos listed by her legal name on that document to know that there was a settlement. And that the settlement was confidential. Thats not unusual. I have done many, many confidential settlements and the person who wants to know who else was told, in other words the person paying the settlement is trying to assess the risk about how many people know what, for example, stormy is alleging and then they assess the risk that those people in whom she had previously confided might disclose or might not disclose. In this case, stormy knew because she had a close relationship and friendship with jessica, jessicas not the kind of person who would have disclosed that confidence. And jessica, have you caught any of the News Coverage of james comey or the memos recently . I have. So you may be familiar that he relates that when donald trump repeatedly brought up the allegation unverified, regarding the potential contact with prostitutes in moscow, one of the things he said to the then fbi director, according to james comey, one of the ways that he sought to rebut that was to say that he, donald trump was not a person who would ever choose to, need to, want to pay for sex. In your experience with him, based on what youre now speaking out publicly, does that sound right to you or conflict with your experience . First i would like to just say that i dont think its paying for sex in this equation that was so offensive to me. What was so offensive to me was when i initially met him and was in his hotel room, he grabbed me and kissed me without my consent and so i am an adult performer, i also identify as a sex worker. What was not okay with me was that the physical contact that he made with me that night in his hotel room was without my consent and when he did start asking me to spends additional time with me that night, he wasnt really taking no for an answer and he was upping the ante every single time i turned him down. Understood and i know from the time you initially spoke out, which we know was before the election, you were clear on that point as an important one and gloria has represented people in that kbacapacity. I ask about the comey thing because he says as a categorical matter he would never pay for sex. And in your story, that is at least what he proposed. It felt that way. And i want to emphasize as jessica said, it felt that way to her, and in fairness to the president , and i do like to be fair to him, even though i oppose many of his policies. Jessica is not saying that he said specifically, this 10,000 if thats what he said is for sex, but apparently that was for her to come up to his hotel room. So i guess everybody can draw their own conclusions from that, it certainly does look suspicious. Ive got to say, i appreciate the nuance that youre both bringing to the factual part of this as well as the judgment part. Jessica, i would be remiss if i didnt play for you what the president said publicly in the very period of time when several women as you were emphasizing a moment ago were coming forward and alleging Something Different than what Stormy Daniels alleged which was what they viewed as misconduct by the president. And this was his response as a candidate at the time. Every woman lied when they came forward to hurt my campaign. Total fabrication. The events never happened. Never. All of these liars will be sued after the election is over. With the benefit of hindsight, we have seen the president did not make good on that part of the promise to sue. Your response based on everything thats come out that we have learned as of now . Its infuriating, its infuriating for me to be called a liar, its infuriating for stormy to be called a liar, thats essentially the reason that im choosing to speak out now. I feel like i have held my silence for so long and have seen and heard so much. Its just that i have had it. I have really had it. And ari, in and when if President Trump decides to tweet or speak about jessica in a way that is defamatory, he should be reminded that when he defamed my former climb summer zervos, we filed a complaint against him and the Court Allowed us to proceed with that lawsuit over his objection where he thought that the president somehow should be immune, but the court found that no man is above the law, including the president of the United States. Let me make sure that i understand at your peril let me understand, are you saying tonight that what the president says and does will determine whether or not you file suit . Thats absolutely correct. Go ahead, jessica, sorry. Something else that he said that was very upsetting was in reference to me during a radio interview, he said of course shes been grabbed before, shes a porn star. And that perpetuates rape culture and quality apologists and it infuriates me as well. Even an adult film star has a right to say no to unwanted sexual advances. She didnt like that kiss on the lips when she entered his hotel room, she had a right to object to it. And no woman, no matter her occupation is required to say yes to his sexual advances. And it shouldnt affect peoples believing in us either, and thats why im speaking out. Jessica and gloria allred, there are many aspects to this story, you have spoken quite eloquently on what you want people to focus on, so thank you for giving us your time tonight. I want to turn back to shelly and christina, your thoughts on what we heard . I think its a really important decision, and im glad that Jessica Drake has spoken out. Lets be clear, the vast majority of women who have said that somebody sexually assaulted them or sexually harassed them is not out of line, especially Jessica Drake, where in this country we see the porn industry less than savory. This is not about money, this is about somebody coming to her home, harassing her family, she would not have done this if it were not true. You find that credible. Thats a debate. I do find that the women that speak out against incredibly powerful men, especially the president of the United States, what they have to lose is so much greater than what donald trump have to lose, the vast majority dont do that. So i think shes incredibly brave. Donald trump has always promised to sue people. When he has said hes going to sue people, nine times out of ten he doesnt. This is a perfect story for him, because this is the me too movement coming together with possible real allegations of what he has done and helping women who are in various occupations across the country who may not have always seen themselves as aligned or sisters and saying you may be a journalist, you may mr. A lawyer, and you may be a sex worker, no one should have to deal with unwanted groping or touching et cetera. What about the james comey side of it. We have a few women saying that donald trump offered them money in connection with sex, maybe it was before sex. But thats something that donald trump has denied and we also have donald trump summoning women to his hotel rooms, its unsubstantiated, but were starting to see more and more evidence that donald trump has had these patterns of behavior in the past. So it does cast doubt on the words offing james comey. Donald trumps words matter, they matter over women who have come out and how he has slammed them in the past, they matter legally when Michael Cohen goes to court and donald trump says you didnt know anything about the payment, you cant have Attorney Client privilege if you didnt know about the payment. And it raises the theory at least that some of what donald trump says and does is either not fully thought out, or against his own interests. Ask Michael Cohen, saying i never did it. He could have said i didnt do it that night. He said i would never do that kind of thing, and we have a woman who has corroborating proof, and saying it is something he would go which adds to the record. Were going to fit in a break, we have a lot more tonight, donald trump saying hes done nothing wrong, buy would it matter if Michael Cohen flips. 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His Treasury Department now announcing its just going to start easing some of those very sanctions including on one of the most important people you see there on your screen. Oleg darapasta, he is of course wrapped up in the russian probe. Paul manafort owed him money. During the campaign of secret briefings back to oleg, the focus here is so intense that he offered to cooperate with congress when he asked for immunity. Why would cohen want immunity . Theres been nobody tougher on russia than president donald trump, but russia will tell you nobodys been tougher than donald trump. Im now joined by a diplomatic director as well as bill kristol editor at large for the weekly standard. Bill, do they not care about getting caught because they already have their headlines . There might be good reasons for waving or delaying sanctions for one particular company. The way the Treasury Department decided to float it. But time flies in trump world, in trumps america. A week ago nikki haley went on sunday and said they were about to announce major sungation asa there were talking points going out the week before talking about sanctions, she was talking to larry kudlow and she famously now responded that she was confused and she said i dont get confused. And that was the president overruling i think his entire National Security team in trying to move ahead with sanctions here. I think thats where the president s heart is to see if he can overcome the view of the administration. We do need to sanction putins cronies, he seems to be doing his best to avoid doing so. Is it where his heart is, or where his deutsch bank loans are . Fair enough. Take a look at donald trump joking about the person bill was just mentioning, nikki haley. Does everybody like nikki . Because if you dont otherwise she can easily be replaced, right . No, we dont do that, i promise, we wont do that. Educate us, sir, we know when were told diplomacy is partly about relationships, its about how you deal with people, theres also underlying values, what does this reveal to you. I think nikki haley has been an effective ambassador for donald trump at the united nations, but shes been consistently very strong in her criticism of russia from the start of the administration, the president famously is not, for the president to assert that hes been the toughest person on russia, its just preposterous, he hasnt formed a National Commission to help our 50 states defend this autumns election and the 2020 election, he was six to ailieight months late in nominating the he hasnt stood up to putin on this big interference in our elections, nikki haley has, at least shes been talking about that. Pardon . Does it concern you to give derapasta a pass on this . I dont think thats the most important thing that was said. There may be reasons why treasury has taken this action, the larger point here is that the president has not been tough minded in dealing with the country thats arguably the strongest adversary we have in the world and which gets to the heart of our democratic process. I think nikki haley has, i think thats why you see the president being somewhat unkind to her over the last couple of weeks. Bill, here was james comey describing what can only be described as a quailing attitude towards putin even in private by the president. He wont criticize vladimir putin, even in private. Even in a meeting with three people in the oval office. He is arguing that he gave a good answer when he said, essentially, we are the same kind of killers that putins thugs are. Bill. Yeah, i think comeys right to be stunned by that, as an fbi director and part of the intelligence community. But theres so many things, if he gets them all right and youre going to keep track of it and so are your colleagues. Wasnt it the day after he said to russians in the oval office that theres a load off my back or Something Like that, i feel a sense of relief . He made it sound like firing james comey was a really good massage and it relieved all this pressure. On russia, though, in particular. Then he set to lester holt, maybe again a day or two later, of course it was the russia thing that he just kept pursuing, and that he shouldnt have or Something Like that. So, it seems to come back to russia an awful lot, and ive got to think the attempts, the threats to rosenstein and mueller, theres so many other things in play i suppose, that you can say theres only one of several threats to donald trump. But its always, his incredible unwillingness to take on putin has always been for me a flashing red light or a flashing yellow light at least as part of his campaign and presidency. Flashing lights with bill kristol, a lot of clues. Ambassador and mr. Kristol thank you both. Up next, Michael Cohen has got his own client rattled and if trump says hes done nothing wrong, why are they talking about flipping . The one and only richard painter is here next. Jessica drake just broke her silence for the very first time on the beat. And my sit down with congressman joe kennedy, from nepotism in the white house to working with paul ryan, thats up next on the beat. Gas, bloating, constipation and diarrhea can start in the colon and may be signs of an imbalance of good bacteria. Only Phillips Colon Health has this unique combination of probiotics. It helps replenish good bacteria. Get fourinone symptom defense. They feel that they have to drink patients that i see that complain about dry mouth a lot of water. Medications seem to be the number one cause for dry mouth. Dry mouth can cause increased cavities, bad breath, oral irritation. I like to recommend biotene. Biotene has a full array of products that replenishes the moisture in your mouth. Biotene definitely works. It makes patients so much happier. [heartbeat] the president s made it clear that he has nothing to add. Donald trump and his allies keep talking about whether the president s lawyer Michael Cohen will flip on the president. This whole conversation in public is very odd because innocent people dont have anything to worry about if there is flipping because without solid evidence, you cant incriminate them, so theres no flip. Now keep that in mind as you hear trump allies debate the risk that cohen might pose. You think Michael Cohen flips . I think its very hard not to flip when theyre threatening you with long, long imprisonment. Why is the president talking about the notion of Michael Cohen flipping if the president didnt do anything wrong. Hes defending someone hes worked with and known for many years who he thinks is being treated unfairly. Lets turn to richard painter, an ethics chief under george w. Bush. What, lets start like in law school the way you teach, what does it mean to flip . Well, if you are guilty of a crime and the prosecutors have nabbed you, you would agree to cooperate with the prosecutors in return for a more lenient senten sentence, more lenient treatment, perhaps lesser charges and you flip on the people who you have been collaborating with, your coconspirators, this is the way organized crime is pursued and other criminal ventures all the time. But of course theres nobody who would realize there was somebody flipping on them in case they did something wrong and their participating in the conspiracy. You just used the term coconspirator, its harder to flip on mother therese ska eres tal dalai lama. I think the vast majority of our members of congress. Most people are not felons, i agree with you, sir. Most people are not felons, we have not had to worry about somebody flipping on the president of the United States since i was 12 years old and we had nixon. I think what many of us know, are against the best legal advice, he has added lawyers to the team, some of whom have federal litigation and federal prosecutorial experience and you and i know they are not telling him to talk on a daily basis about who could flip on you . Of course he is not handling this the right way, he hasnt since day one when he talked about the russia investigation all the time and then fired james comey and then went on tv in front of the Russian Ambassador talking about why he fired james comey and then tweeted about it and sent i dont know how many dozens of tweets about james comey. Now he wants to fire Robert Mueller, hes acting like hes guilty, that may be because hes guilty or because hes psychotic, one of the two, but its not a good swak ituation t have the president of the United States behaving this way. I dont want to invite speculation, but i will talk about some of the people rounding my reporting, one individual who worked closely with him for a decade, michael might think he wont flip on the president , but he will, do you see that as a possibility . I dont know whats going on with Michael Cohen, but from what im hearing in the news reports, very little of what hes been doing is the practice of law and paying off porn stars may be only the beginning of it. If hes tied up in Money Laundering or other criminal activity on behalf of clients, hes in very, very serious trouble. We have yet to see what the government has on Michael Cohen, but theres no way that he would just cover up for donald trump and take the prison sentence. Donald trump is infamous for throwing everyone else under the bus, so hes the last man standing, i dont think anyone intelligent is going to fall for that and if i were Michael Cohen, and i were guilty of whatever hes being accused of, i would be cooperating with Robert Mueller right now. And briefly, you know, one of the biggest legal moves trump made recently was giving an obstruction pardon out to a white house aide. And it hasnt gotten that much attention, im not even sure why, we covered it extensively on the beat. Your view of Scooter Libby while you were in the white house . Scooter libby, he lied to a grand jury but that was over 10 years ago and that was resolved with president bush giving him a commutation of a prison sente e sentence, but not a full pardon. The only reason for donald trump to dig that up and give a full pardon is to send a message is that if you purger yourself to cover up for someone else, youre going to get a pardon. You think it was effectively a corrupt intent . The objective was to get people to understand that perjury is not that bad, if perjure yourself to cover up for somebody else. I wouldnt take that risk, i wouldnt fool around with Robert Mueller. Richard painter, we always learn from you, im waiting for the stay when you start one of those virtual courses, richard painter hologram or something where we could sign up for your courses. The first person to ever interview Stormy Daniels on the record in 2011, and who said she is corroborating parts of Stormy Daniels story. Well do it when were back in 90 seconds. For all the noses that stuff up around pets. Theres flonase sensimist. It relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. Hello. Give me an hour in tanning room 3. Cheers thats confident. But its not kayak confident. 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Im joined by jordi lippy mcgraw, the author of an article that started it all. When you speak to jessica, does she seem credible at all and from your reporting, do you have reason to believe that as stated she was there with stormy . Theres no reason not to believe her, stormy has come out when i spoke to her and she said she told multiple people about this affair, she told her assistant, even her exhusband knew about this, her manager knew about this, so why wouldnt she tell Jessica Drake. And she also said that donald never told her to stay quiet about the affair, only now when he is the president does he want all these women to be quiet. Theres this other piece that i have mentioned with relation to the comey incident that people were offered for money. You say point blank he offered you money for sex . The offer was made, i took it as if it was for sex. I was speaking to mr. Trump himself on the phone, he asked me, come on, come on up, what do you want . How much and then the numbers started to come. That is what james comey said donald trump told him. I know those sentences are coming out of my mouth, but there. She also said that donald trump promised her some things, maybe not in the exact exchange in the way that that might transpire, but she was offered a condo in florida, she was hoping to get on the apprentice, so it d does seem to fall in line for the way donald trump does operate. It does seem like he was trying to lure women with promises of gifts. Do you think people have underestimated these individuals who are speaking out . Absolutely, i think leave it to the porn stars to bring the president down if no one else could, theyre willing to speak out, they have nothing to lose at this point and somebody else is calling them not credible and they want to theyre telling the truth and they want that to be known and stormy said that from day one and i believed her from day one. 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With humira, control is possible. Breaking news. President george bush sr. Was admitted to the hospital but is recovering, this according to a statement that came out at 6 46 eastern. He is responding to treatments after an infection that spread to his blood and i appears to be recovering. Well keep you updated on that story. Now i want to turn to an important discussion i mentioned. How are democrats fighting trump . Well, that was a big test facing congressman joe kennedy who gave the response to the state of the union. And he got some rave reviews. I just caught up with congressman in washington. Take a look. Jared kushner has been under scrutiny in the mueller probe. His security clearance has been downgraded. Its clear he misled on his forms about foreign meetings. Repeatedly. Do you think President Trump made a mistake in giving these kind of important roles to Family Members . I think so yes, i do. And im cognizant of the fact that some of my members of my family, when they were in office had some Family Members in key roles adds well. What i think we acknowledged then and certainly as time has gone on that the issue isnt so much the Family Member aspect of it, although i think thats a critically important piece. But wed be having a very different conversation if mr. Kushner had in fact disclosed all of the meetings he had with officials if he had filled out the forms appropriately, if he had fully divested himself from interest with foreign governments, which clearly he hadnt. Just because youre a Family Member doesnt necessarily mean there is a conflict of interest. What the trump family seems to be unwilling to do is divest themselves from the interest of the American Public and governance and their own financial assets. And thats what i think should lead all of us to have a problem. Do you think that in todays world it would make sense for, if you could, a president to appoint their brother to the cabinet . Or you think thats something we have sort of learned through history is not as good an idea now as it may have once been . I think it was great idea when my great uncle was president. I have no issue with that, none. The main issue have i with what is going on with mr. Kushner, with ivanka trump and with kind of ancillary issues with the trump family is their unwillingness to clarify the circumstances and put up some very clear walls between themselves and their governance and the trump assets. Youre part of a family that america is fascinated by. How do you take that in your daily role . I am very proud of the contribution my Family Members have made to the country. But you cant walk around with that every day. The lesson that i take from my family, one that doesnt get covered so much. Most folks focus on the kennedy part. I focus on the family part. Were a family too. Its fathers and brothers and sisters and aunts and uncles. What you learn is the times we have a family, we are there for you. How tough it is to do a response to the state of the union and how kennedy became a meme. Democrats gave you a big job in responding to the state of the union. You broke with one republicans approach. You did not partake of any water during your speech. Went lighter on the water and probably heavier on to the chap stick. The good news is i will not have to get chap stick again. Ive gotten tubes from every corner of the country. Is that something you and marco rubio ever discussed . He went in a different direction. I met senator rubio for the first time last night, and we shared a joke about it. He was great sport. Look, at a certain point all you can do is laugh about it. I will, i have made a conscious decision to go light on the chap stick ever since. Thank you, america. We also got congressman kennedy to do a lightning round on the beat. 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Before we get to the latest on President Trump and Michael Cohen we have breaking news to report. We learned just minutes ago that former president George Herbert walker bush has been hospitalize with an infection that has spread to his blood. The former president was admitted to houston Methodist Hospital yesterday morning just one day after the funeral for his wife, former first lady barbara bush. Former bush president , president bush 43, a white house