Ill explain. Headline is potential test moany i from President Trump himself. The white house is divided between attempts to assert order and slide into chaos. First on the order side, tonight nbc news is reporting interesting news, trumps lawyers negotiating with mueller and fbi investigators about this interview, key questions, trump interviewed directly by mueller, not automatic. Legal standard for president to be interviewed. Leverage in the fight. Where potential interview can take place, optics can be hugely important. And of course, topics. As for length, if you know donald trump, its a key issue how long you negotiate for interviewing someone who knows how to filibuster. They want to assert discipline over inherptly unpredictable russia probe. At the same time theres the other story everyone has heard of, chaos rocking the white house, former trump aides turning on each other in the number one book in the nation. Author Michael Wolff had a clear response to denials from trump aides. Theyre all lying. I mean theyre all in a situation in a situation now where donald trump has come to think that this book is a mortal threat. I dont know if it is or it isnt. But he certainly feels that way. And hes making demands on everybody. I hear through the grapevine that katie walshs job is at issue now. Which i regret. Reference there to katie walsh, former Deputy White House chief of staff, job at rnc is as michael said, reportedly in jeopardy. Quoted allegedly saying that trump is just like a child. Also a new report, trumps official schedule is shrinking rapidedly because demanding more tv and twitter time at home. Trump aides are fighting. Hes spending more time watching news and tweeting about it ahead of this potential interview with bob mueller. Mr. President , if Robert Mueller asks you to come speak with his committee personally, are you committed still to doing that . Just so you understand, theres been no collusion, no crime. Trump is also no stranger to these kind of legal proceedings, involved in over 4,000 lawsuits, accused of discrimination, cheating contractors. Also said hes comfortable with litigation. Does anybody know more about litigation than trump . I know a lot. Im like a phd in litigation. It within a jd, not ph. D. But who is keeping track . Big question is not funny but serious. How will this interview go down and who will be making ultimate decisions . In a moment dig into that with president clintons chief speech writer, working in white house during the period when clinton testified to grand jury. Lawyer as well. And begin with former joyce vance and bill crystal of the weekley standard. Donald trump does have this experience. I think people underestimate him and his lawyers at their own peril talking strategy. What do you see in the nbc news report about the negotiations . There are an awful lot of variables at play here. Although the government can subpoena the target of an investigation, assuming that president is target here, its really frowned upon. And typically can only be done when u. S. Attorney, bob mueller, with rod rosensteins approval, when those folks and grand jury agree its necessary, only way to get this evidence. You have to think through how unlikely the procedure is and how much more likely it is there will be negotiated accommodation. But its risky for the president. He was on record last year saying he was ready to testify under oath. If he doesnt now, appearances to him will be extremely negative. And white house front, john dowd is saying something reasonable i think, doesnt comment on the communications with special counsel out of respect for the process. But white house is continuing full cooperation in order to facilitate the earliest possible resolution. In a land full of very loud aides constantly fighting as weve seen, this book remind everyone or lay bare yet again, lawyers are trying to assert or pretend, your analysis, that there is order and cooperation. We dont know if lawyers are speaking for donald trump. Im not lawyer, never had to testify before grand jury to. I dont believe hes going to testify or not nearly as easily as people are saying. Why has he been delegitimizing mueller these past months . Setting up situation to tack final report or maybe fire him and balking with things that mueller asks. What in the book rattled trump i dont know, could be steve bannon saying for sure hyperbowlic, but donald junior walked the russians up to office. I dont know if he knows or whatever, saying he didnt believe that donald trump didnt know about the meeting before or after. Trump said he hasnt. Air force one statement. I dont think that trump wants to testify under oath before bob mueller. Putting finger on all of this. Everybody knows tellall books. May not be literal in the sense saying that literally donald trump jr. Is an egg with yolk inside. What hes saying is at point that steve bannon was feeling comfortable to make these claims, he obviously as insider also sees Something Big and important about the trump tower meeting. What youre saying bill, what bannon said is so concerning and matters not because embarrassing or critical but seemed to reveal or suggest there is a there there. Put together with behavior on air force one where he takes over and dictates a false statement about his son when he could have easily stayed out of it. Tells me he had something hes been hiding and would prefer to keep hiding. I think will force a showdown with mueller, say i dont have to testify before you, try to force me, go to court with the usual arguments as you said before, its pretty rare to actually subpoena the target. I dont quite its nice that trumps lawyers are sounding reasonable and everyone is looking at clinton and bush precedents but trump is not approaching it as others did, even clinton who was reluctant but didnt feel he could get out of it. And legally there is grounds for a president to put up a fight for debate over this. Clinton did for some time and went to the top, the terms. Joyce, more footage you dont usually see we dug up. Donald trump sitting for one of his depositions saying he knows exactly what the drill is. Would you state your full name for the record please . Donald john trump. I imagine youve had your deposition taken a number of times. Yes. So you know the drill. I do. Wont waste anyones time going through it. Good, thank you. Good thank you. And what we see, much calmer, quieter and at times forgetful donald trump. Typically the smart thing to do when youre being questioned in a legal proceeding is answer only the question and give no more information than you have to give. Yes or no answer is great. But distinction here is those depositions are civil proceedings. Now were talking about a criminal case with an under oath testimonial process in front of a grand jury or with agents. And that could expose the president to criminal liability for making a false statement or committing perjury in front of grand jury. Stakes are a lot higher than civil deposition. Exactly. What ill get into in a moment. Before that, bill crystal, we have to make time for oprah. Youve been talking about oprah. Take a listen to what by all accounts across the spectrum people said was important address last night. Many of the women, whose names well never know, they are domestic workers, farm workers, working in factories and restaurants and academia and engineering and medicine and science. For too long women have not been heard for believed if they dared speak their truth to the power of those men. But their time is up. Bill crystal, reaction . Impressive woman, impressive speech. Half tongue in cheek encouraged her to run for democratic nomination. But why not, better connection with middle american than Elizabeth Warren and more charismatic than a lot of the candidates. Better with economics in my opinion than bernie sanders, done well, come up from extremely Hard Scrabble origins, american success story, younger than biden, warren and sanders, why not run . Great nominee or open to considering voting for her . I dont know her views on a lot of issues so more the former. Would be formidable. Who knows if now celebrities can just run for president. In old days ran for governor or senator. With trump all barriers are down. Can i look at you and say shes less qualified to be president than donald trump . I cannot. And thats before we get into the bachelor, a lot of room in expanding field. Thank you both. President clintons former speech writer with me, michael this is something you went through. In fairness to any white house, happens to be trump white house, new challenges, but you did fight initially how and whether to do any testimony in what was then a grand jury proceeding. Thats right. And remember the Monica Lewinski scandal began when he testified in legal case, didnt take it that seriously and got himself into trouble. As it unfolded, didnt want to testify but clear by summer he had to. Stressful. Always an effort in that white house to keep the business of government moving forward and have other people, fairly segregated group, deal with the legal issues and controversy. In the book steve bannon was wishing they could do that in this white house. But saying for sure we lack the discipline and we have trump. That is one of the questions. If instead of preparing mentally, president is sitting in bed with cheeseburger and tweeting, not the way to get ready for Something Like this that helps business of government go forward. How do you think mueller would pursue his case in that interview . In this kind of thing, one of the advantages in a sense that mueller has, he knows what mueller knows. Bill clinton i assume basically knew what ken starr knew, i bet that donald trump doesnt really know for sure what bob mueller knows. Ken starrs best Case Scenario from his view as prosecutor was taking contacts between the president and other individuals and finding something that was a crime or impeachable. Really an effort to obstruct justice. Basically meant what he did or didnt do, alleged to have done with the people or what he did in the afterward, inevitable coverup. All of that touched the president. Here is different situation. All these other questions swirling around the people around donald trump. Did the Campaign Manager or family or others having contacts with wikileaks, with russian operatives and people linked to russia, what do they all know . Its possible that donald trump could end up in asymmetric situation. Where hes a witness to conspiracy to collude or break the law by people who work for him. During watergate, if you look at legal jousting over the tapes, seen as evidence in the trial of h. R. Haldeman, not sought explicitly to tie the noose around Richard Nixon. Of course, once they were heard, they did. Youve got potential problems with the campaign, you have the issue of obstruction of justice. And could have a conspiracy to obstruct justice but its pretty clear if a case is to be made, donald trump himself is in the middle of it. And all kinds of other things, ancillary issues or issues with russian money and financing of the business that trump has to wonder what might be coming at him. Were out of time. But other question i want to ask you, do you remember bill clinton ever considering preemptive pardons during that period . I certainly never heard it, would not have imagined it. One of the counts of obstruction of justice against Richard Nixon was he dangled a pardon in front of the burg larz. Its nonsense to say you could pardon anybody, in the constitution. That would be a constitutional crisis. Fascinating detail. Always good to learn from you. Little bit of trivia doesnt hurt. Coming up, what ivanka knew and didnt know in trump tower meeting. Public debate over President Trumps fitness or office. Wrote the book on narcissistic disorder. What was missing from Steve Bannons apology to trump . The word sorry. Back from trip and red Mark Zuckerbergs facebook. The beat. Msnbc. Zuckerbergs facebook. The beat. Msnbc. En its time to unleash your secret weapon. Its there, right under your nose. Get to your best smile up to 50 faster. Visit invisalign. Com to get started today. 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Another report says mueller is interested in the encounter and wants to reinterview one of the meeting participants and scrutinize that big statement trump made about the meeting. Air force one statement, ivanka was there. And in fire and fury, everyone now directly connected to actions involved in the Russian Investigation or efforts to spin it, deflect it or cover it up. I put my daughter ivanka in charge, terrific person. I want to applaud my daughter ivanka for her work on this issue. Speak of great people, my daughter ivanka here. One of the biggest aplaus lines is my daughter ivanka. Very proud of my daughter ivanka, champion, shes a champion. Richard painter and matt miller. One of the first times ive agreed with steve bannon on anything. This meeting was a betrayal of the United States to a foreign adversary. It doesnt necessarily meet the constitutional definition of treason, only kicks in when were in a state of declarative war. But to collude with agents of the russian government for purposes of gaining dirt on your political opponents and then apparently discussing sanctions, what the whole adoptions things is all about, the quid pro quo, that is a betrayal of the United States. This is not an insignificant meeting. Very top people from the Trump Campaign were at this meeting. Donald trump jr. , jared were there. This was important meeting. Now we hear that russian lawyer may well have run into ivanka trump, we dont know what was said but serious situation. For the white house to just brush it off and say it was nothing is absurd. And Robert Mueller needs to take it seriously. And thats why i think donald trump is so defensive about what steve bannon said. Because for once in his life, steve bannon told the truth. You say defensive. And matt, that goes to old southern saying. A hip dog barks. You know that saying. Were two southern type of guys. Im from texas ari. Are you . I didnt know that. Wheres the accent . Sanded away. Over time, unfortunate obviously. This question that richard raised of intensity. I was out last week. Came back, reading the book and reaction. Some is usual gossip. Some is interesting, some newsworthy, fighting over it but gossip. And some is revealing. Mark kraullo is not household name but someone we know who has done what you do, communicator for legal issues. Brought on to help. And in this book reports that spinning that story is why he walked away. Cover story is he was fired. He thought that meeting was likely obstruction and he quit. Other side said he was fired. Mark corallo was respected republican adviser. When he was member of the president s legal team, he looked at fact pattern and concluded obstruction of justice. I dont think that bob mueller will be interested in corallos conclusion but what he saw. Why was the president trying to conceal this from the American Public . Underlying question about the meeting and everything else, when did the president find out russian government had derogatory information about Hillary Clinton . In april when a member of the Campaign Team found out . . June when son was told that by intermediatary of the russian government . Or in july when russians started to leak that out . Thats the thing we dont know because the campaign and white house have misled the American Public about it consistently. Do you think that mueller will find anything useful in the book or mostly cocktail chatter . He will look at book im sure but not rely on the book, conduct his own interviews, interviews that may very well included interviews of people who have been interviewed in the book. Probably already interviewed quite a few of them. May conduct additional based on what he sees in book or press or other places when People Choose to leak. I would be interested in interviewing steve bannon if i were Robert Mueller. He may have already, may want to interview him again if he already has. Hell conduct his investigation professionally. Hes a professional prosecutor, former head of the fbi, he knows what hes doing and not going to prosecute anybody based solely or even mostly on what is in a book but based on hard core evidence he finds or doesnt. Not going to prosecute anybody he is not convinced has violated the law. As for the leads, one interesting thing in manafort case, they cant crack his lawyer like egg to use the phrase, but did force his lawyer to testify. Whether mark corallo and others close to this who thought the plane ride was obstruction, could be interesting. After the break, steve bannon apologies the steve bannon way. And leading psychologist here who says that donald trump is but unethical for doctors to diagnose him. And Mark Zuckerberg says his resolution is fixing facebook. My response at end of the show. S that stand for something. You like her. 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Steve bannon proved to the world he is most powerful person in the white house right now including the president. Most controversial staffer in controversial white house, steve bannon ousted today. Away from the squad but more powerful that way. Joined by senior political reporter by Washington Post and toronto star. Daniel, what happened to steve bannon . Steve bannon decided that he was important on his own, independent of president donald trump, important enough he could trash donald trump, go do his own thing and be a star independent of the man who made him a National Public figure. I think what he quickly found with reaction from the president and possibly more important to him, financial backers, billionaire mercers, hes nothing at this point without their backing. Issued this nonapology apology in which he grovelled because he knows that with donald trump he eventually forgives you if you grovel often enough. Its been remarkable and large fall for steve bannon. Laura . Yeah. I completely agree with what he just said. Bannon got a little bit too big for his bridges. I think he thought trumps base was following him, he was true leader of the nationalist movement. Hes not. How can you compete with power with leader of the free world . Bannons power came from being in the white house, proximity to the president. Doesnt have that anymore. If he loses brietbart, he loses everything. You know in the movies where the animals talk, average poe morphizing the animals . I think we are doing that to money in politics. Steve bannon is so brash, tough and strong, as if those are personality traits. In fact they seem to be a function of the money he either had or thought he had from the mercers, not as famous as kochs but the people who convinced donald trump to take him on. Run cambridge anlitko, mixed up in russian stuff. Thought it was blank check. He never expresses contrition but did come out and do what steve bannon said he never does because not about personality but whether he has moolah. Steve bannon seemed like genius to lot of people. Behind trump becoming most unlikely person in American History to win the presidency and steve bannon took credit for a lot of it, architect for a lot of policies in the white house, arguably more powerful than ivanka and jared and other advisers. But now taken it a little bit too far. Thought maybe in 2020 he could be president . I dont know his ambitions. But he thought trumps followers would split off and follow him. Broke rule number one, cozying up to the media. If one thing connects all Trump Supporters is complete hatred for the media. And bannon has been leaking and cozying up to the media, almost compulsive addiction to talk with the press, not going to look good to followers. I dont think they hate the media, they love it but hate they cant control the media. So theyre in love hate relationship. Bannon is in trouble for getting too much media. Speak to where he goes from here, get a lifeline back and get money or do to himself what apparently none of his opponents could do . Sideline him in way that loses credibility with the base and loses money . Depends on what robert and Rebecca Mercer want to do. Brietbart, the propaganda website that bannon runs, positions itself as voice of the outsider. Really its voice of funders, like lots of media is accused of being by people like steve bannon. If mercers decide hes more trouble than hes worth because trump is mad at him, nowhere good to go. Could try to reinvent himself in trumpian way. I dont know if bannon is important enough or has enough credibility independent of the Trump Movement at this point to do anything but go away. A story thats been fascinate s. Daniel is taking his mike off. Hes done with this segment. Thank you both. 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In journalism we start with the facts and facts dont indicate a mental diagnosis to question the president s mental competence. Rushing into debate on those facts is not fair to this president , another person in the news or future president. And really unfair to whole lot of people with mental or psychological challenges. Position of dr. Alan francis, literally helped write the book on some Mental Health issues and wrote into the New York Times to rebut amateur diagnosticians diagnosing mr. Trump. Said he doesnt meet them. Cant say juf about how incompetent and unqualified donald trump is to be leader of the free world but that doesnt make him mentally ill. Most mentally ill people are nice and wellmannered and trump is none of these. Lumping them together stigmatizes the Mental Health population. Thanks for being here. What moved you to speak out. What do you want people to know about the medical facts here . There are lots of very accurate names for donald trump, call him impulsive spoiled brat, a really bad guy, call him a dangerous threat to american democracy, call him an ignorant jerk. All would be accurate and useful names. But i do object to psychological name calling because it is an insult to the patients ive known who are mostly wonderful people, which trump isnt. And even worse a real distraction from the important work we have to do to set limits on this baby president. Were calling him names, were avoiding political work that needs to be done and institutional taming thats the responsibility of congress, the courts and press. Dr. Francis, put it so well just then. Called president a baby. This president has called many people worse things. In First Amendment free speech socie Society People can talk all they want in civic and political space. Yet what youve called out is real concern about, what would you call it, potential abuse of medical diagnosis, including by people in medical profession who havent personally diagnosed the president. Help us understand what are the conditions under which someone can make a diagnosis . Do it just watching president on tv . People who are diagnosing trump are wellmeaning but misguided. They feel as many of us do that hes a terrible threat to our society and may be threat to entire world, particularly with global warming. They feel a duty to warn. Trouble is anyone with any sense knows that trump is dangerous. Dont need md or ph. D. To realize this. People supporting him are doing it because theyre misguided or taking cynical advantage of his distracting us from the things that really matter. There will never been a 25th amendment removal of this president based on psychiatric illness. Would arrow psychiatrists agreeing to this, which they wouldnt, Vice President pence and cabinet agreeing and 2 3 vote of both houses of congress. I appreciate your Congressional Analysis as well. Its high bar. You really emphasize that lot of this has risk of stigmatizing our understanding of various range of mental challenges and illness which are quite common. Speak to that. Shouldnt be medicalizing bad behavior, confusing people who do evil things with mentally ill. Very few of the bad things that happen in our world are caused by mentally ill. They suffer more than causing suffering. And deserve a better deal than being lumped with donald trump. Dr. Francis, your work and voice has been useful. Thanks for spending time with us tonight. My pleasure. Mark zuckerberg with 2018 new years resolution. Involves russia and fake news. My response up next. There are two types of people in the world. Those who fear the future. And those who embrace it. The future is for the unafraid. 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What do that woman. [ speaking Foreign Language ] another goal was building Artificial Intelligence assistant voiced by Morgan Freeman and visiting all 50 states. Helps me get ready in the morning. Fresh shirt. Fire in the hole. Hell yeah. Facebook ceo in ohio, surprise. Dan moore, he and family knew were having a guest for dinner, obviously someone big but no idea who, before Mark Zuckerberg walked in their door. More he talked, the more i liked him and was inspired by him. Resolutions includes vowing to read books in a year and running so many miles. Many personal. This year his new announcement is challenge is professional. Notes he usually takes on a personal challenge to learn something new but this year goal is prevent facebooks errors, enforcing policies and misuse of tools. Thats a start. Internet was quick to take a shot at zuckerberg, noting this is already his job. But could be a good thing. Either zuckerberg is listening and evolving on problems that he used to deny or like many Corporate Leaders wants to be perceived as listening and evolving. Words have evolved beforeeyes. Here is the impact of disinformation on election crazy, and also saying facebook is not even a media company. Personally, i think the idea that fake news on facebook of which its a very amount of the content influence the election in any way i think is a pretty crazy idea. No were a technology company. Were not a media company. Zuckerberg has since evolved to recognizing some of the widespread problems facebook has. I used to think that if we just gave people a voice and help some people connect, that that would make the world a lot better all by itself. And in a lot of ways, it has. But today when we look around, our society is still very divided. So now i believe we have a responsibility to do even more that. Sentiment, do more, is now being put into writing in zuckerbergs resolution. Thats a positive step. Any ceo can use buzz words Like Community or transparency. Defining actual goals is different. It can lay down a marker, and then the world can see if the goals are achieved or not. Zuckerberg knows that better than most. He has achieved more goals more quickly than just about everyone on earth. And thats what makes this exercise in resolutions potentially important. The impact of setting a specific goal is also the clue that this resolution falls short. Basically, zuckerbergs resolution is noting the problem of online abuse and election interference. And zuckerberg gets some credit for that. But if you read it closely, it doesnt define any specific goal to solve the problems. He says facebook has a lot of work whether its protecting our community from abuse and hate, or making sure time spent on facebook is time well spent. His personal challenge is focusing on fixing those important issues. Well currently make too many errors enforcing our policies in preventing misuse of our tools. Okay. But zuckerberg doesnt say how he will fix these problems. He doesnt say whether there are lines facebook will no longer cross. Authoritarians it will no longer work with, Censorship Technology it will no longer work with. He doesnt even say whether facebook will commit to transparency for labeling political ads on the site that would cost almost nothing. But facebook formally opposed it when lobbying the fec. He doesnt say how the company will prevent ads that practice housing discrimination. And he does not publish the metrics facebook will use to determine if its even winning this battle against fake news and election interference. Any one of those specific goals would be a place to start. Without a measurable goal, as i think Silicon Valley knows well, there is no way to measure improvement. Peter destructor put it simply. Whats measured improves. Which brings us back to what we might call the zuckerberg standard for new years resolutions. Because we checked. And all ten resolutions that he has done had specific numerical goals. 50 states, 25 books, 365 miles. Numbers keep people honest. You either visit 50 states or you dont, and we all know. Whether facebook protects against abuse or interference will always be debatable without specifics. And you know when facebook does not settle for those kind of vague words, when it does demand numbers . When facebook wants to make money. Its very specific about numbers. When briefing investors, they announce 10. 3 billion in revenue on an earnings call. When touting user growth they announce 2. 1 billion customers. When facebook talks to wall street, it uses numbers. When zuckerberg sets his personal goals, he uses numbers. As jayz said, men lie, women lie, numbers dont. When he was telling young people about how to grow a tech company, he used numbers, a very big number. For a while we had this rallying cry of can we connect a billion people . It was way bigger than any service in the world that had been built. And it was ten digits long. It felt crazy. Wed never get to that. But they did. Mark, youve connected 2. 1 billion people. We know that number because you gave it to us. And we know facebook is really good at achieving its goals when it wants to. We know youre really good at achieving your goals. It is a great first step that you are tackling these problems by discussing it in this new resolution. The next step obviously is a resolution with numbers. Then we can all measure your success and root for it. I fount i had agerelated macular degeneration, amd, i wanted to fight back. My doctor and i came up with a plan. It includes preservision. Only Preservision Areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula recommended by the National Eye Institute to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd backed by 15 years of clinical studies. 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Ask your doctor about victoza®. Important story you may not have heard about breaking in new jersey today. Two state prisons banning a book about race and discrimination in our prison system. The new jim crow mass incarceration, the age of colorblindness is a well documented account of systemic racism in the justice system. Like say this one that African Americans are incarcerated at higher rates in every state in the u. S. The worst disparity of all is in new jersey. And that is where these two prisons banned alexanders book. This was uncovered by the aclu through their document requests, and they went public just today, accusing this state of curbing free speech. And in this story already took another turn. Because within hours, there was major reports about this in a wide slew of newspapers in the new Jersey Department of corrections suddenly reversed the bans. Now theyre reviewing how this happened. To review this story for you, prisons tried to ban a book perhaps because information is powerful even in prison. And then when information from the aclu, from activists, and from journalists exposed the ban, the prison backed down. Why . Because information is powerful. Thats our closing thought for you. And that does it for the beat. I also want to say a big thank you to Ayman Mohyeldin and Chris Jansing for anchoring all last week. I will be back here at 6 00 p. M. Eastern tomorrow. Hardball with Chris Matthews starts right now. Big bad wolf. Lets play hardball. Good evening. Im Chris Matthews back in washington. Well, the president spent the weekend defending his mental stability. And look, ive been away for two weeks and ucome back to that kind of news. And perhaps more telling, his defense of his military or mental stability only raised more questions about, you guessed it, his mental stability. And then there is the new hope of the resistance. 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