Obstruction, and witness tampering. Charles kushner, father of jared kushner. By the way, he was put away by Chris Christie when he was u. S. Attorney in new jersey for tax evasion and witness retaliation. Manafort was sentenced to 7 1 2 years, hes been under home confinement due to the pandemic. Tonight, he promptly thanked trump by saying, mr. President , my family and i humbly thank you. Words cannot fully convey how grateful we are. History will record that your presidency accomplished more in four years than any of your modern day predecessors. You truly did make America Great again. As for roger stone, his 40month prison sentence had previously been commuted by trump, who signaled that clemency was in the cards for both guys. I think the manafort trial is very sad. One of the reasons i respect paul so much, people make up stories. I believe he will tell the truth. And if he tells the truth, no problem. The question was asked about pardons, with respect to Paul Manafort, its sad the way hes being treated. Roger stone, hes a character. Ive always liked him. Its very tough what they did to roger stone. They put him in for nine years, its a disgrace. Roger has a very good chance of exoneration in my opinion. Roger stone was treated very unfairly. Paul manafort, the black book turned out to be a fraud. Pa have you thought about pardons or commutations at all . Im always thinking. Youll be watching, like everybody else in this case. Youll be watching. Thats how it went. Trump has now intervened to help five people charged in the Mueller Investigation for crimes against their country, and has rewarded the guys who didnt rat him out. And trump has left the nation in the midst of a cliffhanger. Departing from washington leaving two major pieces of legislation up in the air. Late this afternoon, he vetoed the defense spending act. His refusal to sign the annual Pentagon Spending bill denies pay raises for troops, and new benefits for vietnam era veterans. While teeing up what could be the first veto of trumps presidency. The house and senate are considering override votes. Uniquely painful for republicans who are scared to death about what trump may say about them. And now, threatening to blow up the covid relief bill. Trumps demands for changes, could not only delay assistance, but shut down the federal government. This could impact the effort to reverse the current covid surge, and the effort to get as Many Americans vaccinated as possible. The money that we need at state and local Health Departments is tied up there. We dont have the resources to deliver this vaccine without that support. Our lifeline with this vaccine is being compromised substantially if we dont have the resources to get the vaccines into peoples arms. The bipartisan relief bill has won praise from president elect joe biden, Vice President elect Kamala Harris today had this reaction to the president s decision to hold it up. People are hurting right now. Theyre hurting. And we need to get relief to them immediately. The one thing he should not be doing, after the work went into the bill, holding up when by the end of the month people, their benefits are going to end. With that, lets bring in our guests on this wednesday night, the eve of Christmas Eve. Erin haynes, who works for the nineteenth. Peter baker, stephanie rhule, and neal katyal, veteran of the Justice Department. Former acting solicitor general, who has argued dozens of cases before the u. S. Supreme court. Counselor, because its the law that gives us the lead story, im going to begin with you. And im going to read you the accompanying statement regarding the president s pardons tonight. Quote, as a result of blatant prosecutorial overreach, mr. Manafort has been revealed to be one of the greatest victims of the greatest witch hunt in history. Mr. Stone was treated very unfairly. He was subjected to a predawn raid of his home, which the media conveniently captured on camera. Mr. Stone also faced potential political bias at his jury trial. Pardoning him will help to right the injustices he faced at the hands of the Mueller Investigation. Breathtaking statements aside, can pardons equal realtime obstruction of justice . And who do we see about that . Yes, we can. And the idea that this president is a law and order president , with that language, my foot. Trump is going full Banana Republic in his last 28 days. And, you know, i think at this point, if you want donald trump to give you a pardon, you have to be a republican, you have to be a war criminal, someone who didnt rat on trump, or a turkey. Thats about it. And these people, like Paul Manafort and roger stone, were convicted by juries. This isnt a circumstance in which they were poor folks who pled guilty because they didnt have counsel. These were the most extensive process imaginable. So, yes, this pardons being doled out to people, and trump floating the pardons while the investigation is happening of stone and manafort as the Mueller Report said, very problematic. The president s pardon power under our founding documents is virtually unlimited. But if theres any sort of corruption, it can be the basis for reopening things, with a new investigation and a new set of charges. I suspect trump will try to preemptively pardon that, but at some point theres a limit to the pardon power, and donald trump is surely testing it. And peter, the president s vacation schedule for tomorrow and the press pool that covers him got our attention. Its at the bottom, it said, as the Holiday Season approaches, President Trump will continue to work tirelessly for the American People. His schedule includes many meetings and calls. Peter, thats a first in my years and in my knowledge, thats the definition of the job he was elected to do. A couple of the issues he could tackle is an uncontrolled electronic hack into government computers, and an uncontrolled pandemic. Could this have anything to do with your newspaper reporting today hes now spending most of his time watching television . Look, his schedule from the election until today, about seven weeks, has almost every single day said no Public Meetings or events scheduled. Hes had some meetings behind closed doors that were not on the public schedule, with people like sidney powell, mike flynn, rudy giuliani, and others who are feeding his conspiracy theories about the election. But weve seen very little of the president when it comes to some of these big issues that are confronting our country right now. You named two of them. The russian cyber attack has been unprecedented in hitting our Government Agencies as well as some private sector computer systems. And covid is not going away, as he said it was before the election. Its worse than ever. More than 3,000 people died today, a whole another 9 11 in the last 24 hours. The president has said nothing about it, even the vaccine, something good, hes not even doing that. So you see that line on his schedule as sort of a very defensive way of the white house saying, yes, yes, hes working. Even though hes down in maralago. They set the pool to show up at 7 30 a. M. Typically, thats not because the pool will be there to cover phone calls and meetings, theyll probably go with him to his government club. Erin, that brings us to the incoming administration. Other than not expecting a shred of decency, what does this mean for the president elect and his team . Well, listen, brian, i think what youre seeing in these final 28 days is President Donald Trump picking and choosing how and where he wants to be president ial. But make no mistake, this is all absolutely president ial for this president. What we saw, whether it is his absence on the response to the coronavirus pandemic from a Public Health and an economic perspective, or whether the pardons, yes, there were some earlier in his tenure, like susan b. Anthony or jack johnson or even Alice Johnson that were more in line with what we traditionally think of as president ial pardons. But now, rewards for loyalty, and retribution for those he deems to be disloyal. Things that underscore his feeling that he is right, continuing to focus on the idea that this election is rigged. I think what were seeing now is him writing the final chapter of his legacy. And we still have a few more weeks to go. If in fact the reality is setting in that he didnt win, hes focusing more and more for himself and his supporters on the idea that hes right. Stephanie, im going to guess you had the highest math s. A. T. S of the group. The president rolled a grenade into the covid relief bill after conflating it with the larger general funding bill. He promptly left town. What is the state of play . I ask on behalf of those americans who were told to expect 600 and now are left with the hint, the promise of maybe 2 grand. Well, lets make something clear. They were told enthusiastically by the president s treasury secretary two days ago they would be getting that 600 as early as next week. For who have been out of work for ten months, who are at risk of losing their homes. And even the food banks they go to could lose their funding, theyre counting every day, hour, and minute. Theyre certainly not going to be getting a check for anything next week. But this thing that the president wants to float out there, saying i dont want 600, i want 2,000. Anyone who follows any of this knows the president has had months and months to work with either speaker pelosi, or he could call with mitch mcconnell, and he hasnt. After all these months of Congress Working together to come up with some stimulus package. Its a step in the right direction. To now the 11th hour, no pun intended, people reasarent goio believe it. It serves no one, not even him. Indeed. Stephanie, some of the reporting is that the president is so not wedded to any dollar figure, this was much more personal. This was about mcconnell and thune appearing and saying publicly that they had turned the corner and admitting we have a president elect not named donald trump. Then is what the president is what hes trying to do, if i cant live in the white house, lets just burn it down . You have the Georgia Senate runoff in less than two weeks. Do you think its going to help republicans running there that the president is blocking the next stimulus package . If he wanted the American People to get two grand checks, then he would have worked tirelessly in september and october to get that done, and the checks would have had his face on it. And the checks would have helped him win the election in november. But he didnt do it because its not a priority, and it never was. Back then, he was saying were in a vshaped recovery and everybody was rocking and rolling. Everyone was looking up what that meant. Erin and stephanie nicely opened up the door to the georgia runoff. No pressure, georgia. All it does is decide the balance of power in the u. S. Senate. Do you have any idea of where that reads right now . I want to underscore the point that stephanie is making. Issues like the pandemic are really important for voters who right now are seeing the impact of who controls congress in the final days of these campaigns. Its really an open question of who that helps in terms of republicans or democrats. Mcconnell said that this, you know, the Senate Response to pandemic relief was hurting loeffler and perdue. And that this was something that could be useful to them on the campaign trail, getting that relief, you know, approved and getting that out to georgians, who are very much hurting. But what we know is that the holidays and the coronavirus are not deterring people from casting ballots both in person and by mail in numbers exceeding or matching where we saw the general election. Voter suppression is also impacting republicans as the president continues to kind of tout this message of a rigged election. This can have a galvanizing or det det det deterrent effect. And you hear from democratic surrogates who are continuing to go down to georgia, the spirit of congressman john lewis, who we lost this year in the midst of this pandemic, invoking the spirit of john lewis, having him really as somebody who is looming large over these senate runoffs, is something that i think is also factoring into folks motivation to vote, even in the midst of a pandemic, and even in the midst of this Holiday Season. One other point about georgia go ahead, steph. Yeah. One other point about georgia, remember, Delta Airlines is based in atlanta, georgia. Right now, every single vote counts in that state. Restaurants didnt get a carveout in the stimulus package. Airlines got a huge carveout. It matter immensely to them. How do you think those employees will feel when they say, yes, were going to keep our jobs. No, we wont. Whose fault is that . President trump. They live in georgia. With thanks to erin and stephanie, thank you and happy holidays to you both. Peter and neal are staying for one more segment, on donald trump and the law. As we continue to discuss tonights breaking news. Also ahead, what bill barr was reportedly saying about the president on his way out the door. And once a promising milestone in the fight against the virus, 1 million americans have received a dose of the covid vaccine. Who should be in line for the next round . As the 11th hour is just getting under way on this eve of Christmas Eve wednesday night. Some hot cocoa . Mom, look are you okay . Head home this holiday with the one you love. Visit your local mercedesbenz dealer today for exceptional lease and financing offers at the mercedesbenz winter event. Bundle auto and home, and save up to 25 with allstate. Bundling just feels good this time of year. Saving is easy when youre in good hands. Call a local agent, or 1800allstate for a quote today. I want to wish our new attorney general great luck and speed, enjoy your life. Bill, good luck. A tremendous reputation, i know youll do a great job. Two years later, today was attorney general bill barrs last day on the job at the Justice Department. In a farewell note, he said its been a great honor to serve at the doj. Saying over the past two years, the men and women of this department have risen to meet historic challenges and upheld the rule of law. Please remember one of those historic challenges was working for an attorney general willing to act as the president s lawyer and do his bidding. It comes as the New York Times reports, barr has told associates he has been alarmed by mr. Trumps behavior in recent weeks. Memorize that quote. Well see it from every person who departs this administration. Still with us, peter baker and neal katyal. Peter, something of greater urgency, as we send people off into the holiday break, among the adult staffers in the west wing, and there are probably enough to count on one hand, why have they traditionally been fearful of what happens when the president goes south to m marala maralago . Because he has fewer guardrails down there than in the white house. Weve seen in the last seven weeks, there arent many guardrails left there, either. Fewer staff around him. Fewer people to say, lets think about this before we do something. Fewer people to restrain these impulses. And theyve been quite extraordinary in the time since the election. So i think youre right, there is a concern about what he might or might not do down there. What is really interesting, this is a moment where the pardons represent a way for the president to exercise control when nothing else is working for him. Right . Since the election, hes seen his power begin to ebb away. He keeps telling people the election was stolen, and virtually nobody in a position of authority agreed with him. They passed a covid relief bill without his participation, and hes flailing around saying i dont approve of this. But the pardons represent a way for him to do something that nobody can undo. He doesnt need anybody elses permission to do it, absolute power. One of the things that is almost unchallengeable, but neal may tell us some novel ways it may not be true anymore. But hes angry, hes lashing out, and saying this is something i can still do in the last 28 days i have left. Neal, your good friend, Linmanuel Miranda may put it to music in departure of the s supplicants. But saying i had real concerns about this guy before i left. Everyone on their way out will say that, because of care and feeding of their reputation. Look back and give us the quick take on bill barrs legacy as attorney general. Well, last week, brian, on your show, i said theres only one word to describe bill barr, and thats disgrace. Thats really it. He will go down as the worst attorney general in our lifetimes, perhaps ever. The most sacred duty you have as attorney general is evenhanded administration of the law. And barr will go down as someone who rweaponized the Justice Department to protect trumps friends and go after his enemies. Its ironic, because at his confirmation hearing, barr said he would be independent. People like me understood that to mean independent of trump. But i think what he really meant was independent of principle. Because thats what this attorney general did, whether leniency for trumps convicted pals, or engineering the tear gassing of americans outside of the white house, or insulting the career women and men of the Justice Department. I got call after call today celebrating barrs last day from the Justice Department. The criticism is coming from democrats and republicans alike. One said pretty much what i just said to you, or president bushs Deputy Attorney general saying similar things. This has been an abomination start to finish. The folks ive talked to tonight say there will be more pardons, many of them. Number two, this is proof that donald trump knows his presidency is over. These are the kinds you keep for the end of your presidency. Not merely the end of your first term. Indeed, our thanks tonight as always. Well have you back, and events will force us into a similar conversation. Peter and neal, thank you for being with us on this wednesday night. Coming up as we continue, with a president seemingly willing to burn the house down on his way out the door, what remains, truly, of the Republican Party . We will ask a former member in good standing, when we come back. Hen we come back [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know theres a 30minute limit, right . Tell that to the rain. [ beeping ] for those who were born to ride, theres progressive. Trump has thrown a grenade, as we said, into the covid relief bill, and promptly left town. Once again, the men and women of his party are now left in an excruciating position. Though all of it would be easier in the presence of presenincipl. The New York Times says republicans could be forced to choose between Party Leaders and congress and a president known to savage anyone he views as going against him. And bill krystol joins us. Happy birthday, and we were cognizant of your thread on social media yesterday. We discussed it here last night. You posed the question, perhaps bill barr is leaving on the eve of Christmas Eve for the reason. Perhaps there are things coming that he didnt want to be part of. Did you feel proved right and vindicated today . A little bit. Thanks for the birthday wishes, first of all. Good to be with you. A little bit, but im worried about what is still to come. Neal katyal said that bill barr has been a disgrace, and talked to people so relieved to see him go. And i dont quarrel with those judgments at all. I think barr did not do a few things trump wanted him to do. There may have been pardons that were a bridge too far. He may not have wanted to be a part of some that are to come. And perhaps there are other things trump wants the Justice Department to do that barr didnt want to be a part of. Ive talked to people who were in the trump administration, and i think mostly tried to do their best. Theyre much less confident that the new acting attorney general would stand up to trump even to the degree that barr did. I dont think weve seen the worst of it, honestly. Is there a category of pardon that you find more galling than the rest, perhaps the pardons that reward corruption, perhaps the pardons that reward collusion with russian intelligence . Its a heck of a choice, right . War criminals, its all terrible, obviously. And the signals it sends in terms to our politics, our society, our reputation abroad, its all very bad. But i would say the manafort pardon and those who conspired probably with the president to get russian help in 2016 and covered it up and lied about it. He said to rick gates in 2018, sit tight, youll be taken care of. I think the only person who testified fully, michael cohen, and then rick gates. Everyone else is now off the hook. We can condemn the pardons, and i certainly do. Lets not kid ourselves, that worked. Tru trump got away with the russian thing. He didnt quite get away with the ukraine thing. Ben sasse said it was rotten to the door, but he endorsed him for reelection. Im perfectly happy not to forgive the republicans who went along with this. As you said, there will be all these people in the white house and in the Republican Party, oh, boy, it was very upsetting. Very alarming. I did a lot to stop him, but its not clear how many of them really did. Heres what tom friedman writes, heres what i predict. If trump keeps delegitimizing joe bidens presidency, the gop could splinter. Trump may have done america the greatest favor possible, stimulating the birth of a new, principled conservative party. Which if true, bill, would be music to your ears, presumably. What are the chances . Shortterm, unlikely. Maybe down the road, a little bit more likely. But the veto of the defense bill and the spending bill to which the covid relief is attached, thats hurting trump in congress the way that the pardons, russia, ukraine, they were all happy to excuse. They voted, they thought they would be supported by trump, now theyre in a difficult position. I think theyll override him on the defense bill. They and their friends, i think there will be a greater willingness to say, a little bit over the next few weeks and months, especially once hes out of office, lets not listen to him. How much that will really be a break, how much theyre willing to take on trumps electorate out there, im dubious about that. But i think its probably more significant from the point of view of his hold on the Republican Party. 23 minutes, it wont be your birthday anymore. But we cherish the few moments you spent with us. Bill, our thanks, happy Holiday Health officials warn of more dark days to come before the light, there is some hopeful pandemic news. Well talk about it when we come back. When we come back graine for years and years. And nothing has really worked for me. Until now. With nurtec odt, i have felt such relief. I am able to go about my day as if nothing happened. Nurtec is the only quick dissolve treatment for migraine attacks that can get many people back to normal activities and last up to 48 hours with just one dose. Dont take if allergic to nurtec. The most common side effect was nausea. For more information, go to nurtec. Com were all finding ways to keep moving. But how do we make sure the direction were headed is forward . At fidelity, youll get the planning and advice to prepare you for the future, without sacrificing the things that are important to you today. Well help you plan for healthcare costs, taxes and any other uncertainties along the way. Because with fidelity, you can feel confident that the only direction youre moving is forward. There was a moment of good news today. The cdc announced over 1 million americans, 1 million of our fellow citizens, have received the first dose of the pfizer vaccine. Now, pfizer agreed to supply an additional 100 million vaccine doses in our country by the end of july. Just a little reminder about how drawnout this will be. By the end of july, to help offset a looming shortage. As vaccinations continue in our country, two potentially more contagious strains linked to south africa were found in the uk. And were happy to have dr. Irwin redlenner. Doctor, i so badly wanted to take a victory lap, and celebrate 1 million shots in 1 million american arms. But the two strains do demand our attention. I talked to a friend in london, saying everybody is worried about the South African strain. Theres reasons to be worried. But the strains in uk and in south africa are much more virulent, but theres been a dozen or so mutations since this whole thing began. And these particular variants have a significantly higher rate of infectiousness than the original ones. And i hate to bring difficult news, but one of them may be more dangerous for children, in fact. Because it can cause more infections and more serious illness. Were seeing our eyes closely focused on these developments. And hopefully none of them will affect the ability of the vaccines to prevent the infections. We dont know that for sure yet. But fingers crossed, were hoping the vaccines will still be effective, and theres every reason to believe they probably will be, brian. Doctor, who that we havent thought of or named should be next in line for this . I ask because ron desantis, the governor of florida, who has been wrong about so much of this at every stage of this pandemic, of all the states to be wrong, in the state of florida, hes saying that seniors there should be able to take precedence over front line medical workers if the workers are young and in good health. Where do you come down on a question like that . You know, this has been a really vexing problem, because theres different opinions on who should be first. Theres a lot of people who should be protected, for example the people whose stores will be open if we have another shutdown. Grocery store and pharmacy clerks. We need them to be healthy. They come often from lower middle class environments, and the people who drive buses and subway cars, they all have a lot of contact with the general public. And people have made the case that those folks ought to be first in line. Not to mention the hardhit black and Hispanic Community members who have taken the brunt of much of the fatalities weve seen. Theres a lot on the table. Ron desantis does not present himself with credentials of good judgment and a lot of intelligence. He has a opinion, and hes entitled to it. But there is a lot to be discussed. And one word for sticking up for the home team tonight. Ive learned the fdny, day one of getting the vaccine for the Worlds Largest and greatest fire department, theyve been completely stressed during this pandemic. They are the front lines in the city of new york, along with new yorks finest, so that is good news indeed. Dr. Redlenner, our wishes for a safe and happy Holiday Season and year ahead. Thank you. Coming up, with the virus on the loose in the uk and beyond, a look at the extraordinary measures being taken to stop the spread. Some of them reluctantly coming from inside that building. Transitions light under control. Upbeat music transitions signature gen 8, available now in 4 new style colors. Transitions. Tmoat a record pace. Its network we were the first to bring 5g nationwide. And now that sprint is a part of tmobile were turning up the speed. Upgrading over a thousand towers a month with ultra capacity 5g. To bring speeds as fast as wifi to cities and towns across america. And were adding more every week. Coverage and speed. Who says you cant have it all . The only thing a disaster cant destroy is hope. Donate now at redcross. Org robinwithout the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. As the uk battles these new strains of the virus weve been talking about, some there say the restrictions and lockdowns now and the Food Shortages theyre starting to see are reminding them of another era in that country. Our report tonight from Richard Engel in london. Reporter london is on war footing again. The city is the epicenter of a viral mutation that has made the coronavirus 40 to 50 more contagious. People are hiding. Most everything is shut. Officials say they may have to tighten restrictions even further after christmas. I hope it doesnt last. I hope reduce transmission, and ultimately the vaccines will come through. Reporter this is one of the british governments top medical advisers. How does it feel right now for you watching the uk be so cut off . Yeah, it feels very strange. Were physically cut off, it feels like something from my parents generation, 70 years ago, being cut off in 1914. Reporter back then, they faced the nazi blitz. These days, londononers are taking the uk is under siege again. France temporarily cut trade across the english channel. I was in the navy for six years. Quite a time. But that was quite different from from these days. Reporter Michael Tibbs is 99 years old. He was a lieutenant on a submarine in the pacific campaign. You do get these people going against regulations, and we just have to obey the regulations. Reporter did you think this would happen again . In your wildest imagination, that you would be in a state where now theres government rules about how you can live . How can you imagine anything like this would happen . You cant. Reporter he just got his first dose of the pfizer vaccine, which scientists are hopeful will also defeat this new viral strain. But until then, london remains under attack from another enemy in the air. Richard engel, nbc news, london. Our thanks to richard for that extraordinary report out of the uk tonight. Coming up for us, a moment from today that reminds us all what this season is about. Especially this season, and especially this year. Ason, and especially this year may your holidays glow bright and all your dreams take flight. Visit your local mercedesbenz dealer today for exceptional lease and financing offers at the mercedesbenz winter event. Looking to save money this look at allstate. N . Drivers who switched saved, averaged 718 dollars. Saving is easy when youre in good hands. Call a local agent, or 1800allstate for a quote today. Last thing before we go tonight, the juxtaposition were all feeling between what this time should feel like, what it should mean, and what were going through in this long and dark winter. The uncontrolled pandemic that were living through has taken so much from us. Hundreds of thousands of lives. And even more livelihoods. During this season, please remember them, all those who cannot provide for their families this year. People who have never needed help, never dreamed of asking for help. And please pause along with us and take in this moment from today. When nwe were interviewing a woman in line at a food bank in southern california. This food that youre picking up today he says that the food theyre picking up here is for their christmas meal. [ speaking Foreign Language ] this is just one of the stories. You have a parking lot filled with people that are going to be picking up their meals, picking up meals for christmas. Sorry. A tough and gutting moment to watch together. Here we are, minutes from the start of Christmas Eve. Christmas dinner for that family. And millions of others will come from a box, donated by goodhearted and generous souls. Now comes our chance to show you the good and generous souls that i get to work with. If youre a regular viewer, we thank you. If you youve just now stopped by on your way from bravo to hgtv, welcome. To take us off the air tonight, counting down to the actual arrival of Christmas Eve in the east is our greeting to you, from the same men and women who have kept us sharp and on the air by Remote Control during an uncontrolled pandemic. From us to you, thank you. Merry christmas. And we have it on really Good Authority that things will get better in 2021. So good night for us and for now. I am happy to have you here. When we meet in a parallel universe someday, you and i, where none of this has actually happened and in the years after the obama presidency, turns out we had a normal president who did normal things on normal timelines within the bounds of normal american politics. When we meet in that parallel universe, you and i are going to love the tv show that i had planned and written in its entirety for december 23rd, 20