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Airport tarmac, the president sounded like he really didnt want to be there. Dont forget, theyve been here for eight years before me. If they did a good job, i would have never run. I didnt need this. I didnt need this. Although, were having a good time and were doing a good job. No, but its true. If they did a good job, i wouldnt have run. Once again the mostly unmasked crowd was tightly packed as the pandemic continues its accelerated and uncontrolled churn across our country. Just yesterday, our country saw nearly 65,000 more positive cases. Thats now fueling a spike in hospitalizations. Numerous reports out tonight say the rise in cases could soon push some Hospital Systems to the breaking point. Tonight the president described his version of this crisis. Were rounding the turn on the pandemic. 56 and its a record. Epic job growth. Safe vaccines. That quickly end the pandemic. Its ending. Normal life, thats all we want. You know what we want . Normal life. Normal life. Will finally resume. Washington post reports the cdc says the pandemic is blamed for nearly 300,000 more deaths than would take place in the typical year. The virus has left our economy in tatters, of course, cratered the job market in nearly every state. Millions are hoping for assistance from washington in the form of another relief bill. Tonight, trump offered no specifics for those who are struggling. We will deliver record prosperity, epic growth. Next year will be the greatest economic year in the history of our country. This is an election between the trump superrecovery, which is happening right now, and a biden depression. Trump has been blaming house sploes for the lack of new legislation. Today he said he wants an even bigger bill than the 2. 2 trillion version the speaker is pushing for. Washington post and other outlets reporting Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell has been warning the white house against striking a preelection stimulus deal with pelosi. Tonights rally included many of the messages weve heard before, including one of the president s signature themes. The biden harris war on police would be a catastrophe. For public safety. We will hire more police, increase penalties for assaults on law enforcement, and we will ban deadly sanctuary cities. Thats pretty much in line with what weve been hearing from him in the past about law and order. This election is about law and order. I think we have a very strong, very powerful law and order campaign. Im about law and order. Im about having you safe. You got law and order on one side and you have chaos on the other. And you know who likes trump because of law and order . The suburban women. I think were going to get a lot of democrats voting for us because of law and order. Were hitting what people want, law and order, which biden was unable to even talk about. Hes not strong for law and order, and Everybody Knows that. Yet, the tough thing for this white house is this, the latest New York Times sienna poll finding a majority of voters saying they think joe biden would, indeed, be a better choice on law and order. During a phone interview this morning on fox news, trump k continued to accuse his opponent of being a criminal and he publicly called on our attorney general to step in. 11 House Republicans have sent a letter they said the following. We request the department of justice immediately appoint an independent, unbiased special counsel to investigate these these issues that have been raised, as well as any corresponding legal or ethical issues that might be uncovered from the former Vice President s 47 years in public office. Will you be doing that . Will you be appointing a special prosecutor . Weve got to get the attorney general to angst. Hes got to act and hes got to act fast. Hes got to appoint somebody. This is major corruption and this has to be known about before the election, and, by the way, were doing very well. Were going to win the election. Were doing very well. This has to be done early. So the attorney general has to act. Remember, last time trump asked someone for assistance in investigating joe biden, it was the government of ukraine. Tonight trump continued to make allegations about joe bidens dealings with china. His family raked in millions of dollars from china and foreign nations. If biden wins, china wins. If biden wins, china will own the usa. But a breaking story tonight from the New York Times is raising new questions about mr. Trumps dealings with china. The paper says tax documents revealed trump spent a decade unsuccessfully pursuing work projects in china that he even had a previously unknown bank account in china. Meanwhile, joe biden is about to get a big assist from his former boss. Barack obama hits the trail tomorrow in philadelphia for the biden harris ticket. And theres one other headline that caught our attention tonight. Nbc news the first to report that lawyers who have been appointed to help 545 Migrant Children who were separated from their families by the trump administration, those lawyers have been unable to locate 545 sets of parents belonging to those children. Thats a glimpse of our world tonight as we welcome three of our returning veterans to start us off. Kimberly atkins, previously of both wbur and the boston herald. These days a member of the boston Globe Editorial board. Phillip rucker, pulitzer prizewinning author for the washington post. The longtime bestseller a very stable genius and robert costa, also with the post. He is also moderator of Washington Week on pbs. Phil rucker, to begin with your beat over at the white house, we have a short list of the people and institutions the president has attacked, i was going to say in the past couple of days. Most of these are just in the past couple of hours. They run the gamut from fauci to the Supreme Court to obviously joe and hunter biden, lesley stahl, our own colleague and friend kristen welker, hillary clinton, who was mentioned at tonights rally. Phil, is this a strategy . In 2016, this president got elected in part listing the grievances of the people. As he put it, the forgotten men and women. This time around it seems like Donald Trumps grievances, like he is painting himself as the forgotten man. Brian, thats such an excellent point, and, you know, we should keep in mind that one of the keys to trumps victory in 2016 was that in the final weeks of that campaign, he had a disciplined, methodical message. Sure, there was a lot of drama, sure there were a lot of distractions and tweets and whatnot, but at each rally he came out with a very clear message about the forgotten men and women that make america great. About his America First foreign policy. And it was very clear what he was selling to the voters. Fast forward to this point four years from now when you expect the incumbent president to be on the campaign trail making a coherent, cohesive Closing Argument to voters, and hes literally all over the map with his grievances, with venom. Threatening now to release some sort of videotape with the lesley stahl interview with 60 minutes that clearly went very poorly for the president , hence his reaction. He seems to be reacting to what happened minute by minute in the news cycle without a strategy, without a coherent message for voters. And its incumbent on him because all the polls show him trailing joe biden to put something together to turn this race around and to try to regain some momentum in this content with biden. There are only 14 days left and he seems to be sabotaging each day with his own undisciplined message. Kim, indeed, in this frogboiling experiment of American Life in the year 2020, id love to see polling to see what percentage of the public realizing its wrong for a sitting president to ask his sitting attorney general to investigate his opponent. Though as i mentioned, last time at least he asked ukraine to help. So perhaps hes trading up. Yes, hes asked ukraine. He asked china and russia during the 2016 election. This is clearly donald trump trying to rerun the same 2016 playbook. That he thinks led to his victory. And if you recall, in addition to calling for these Foreign Countries to seek Hillary Clintons emails, there was also the assist with the announcement of then fbi director james comey hinting at some sort of reopening of an investigation that turned out to be nothing, but it was enough perhaps in Donald Trumps mind that hes trying to conjure up the same sort of thing by pressuring attorney general barr to open some sort of investigation into joe biden for for something that we have seen that theres really no there there. But the difference is 2020 is very different than 2016. There may still be grievance among those who support donald trump, but nothing that donald trump does or says can take away from the pandemic, which in the United States, unlike many other countries, is seeing a severe resurgence. The numbers are going up. People are preparing to not be able to spend the holidays with their extended family. Theyre preparing for their businesses to be hit. More people are being sick and hospitalized. Thats the number one thing on the minds of people. And as much as donald trump says that its disappearing, the more he talks about a vaccine that does not yet exist, voters see in their own lives how it is impacting them. So as much as he would like to recreate 2016, he simply cant. Indeed, robert costa, times are different, and id like to conjure up this image. You live in erie, pa, youre a trump supporter, you put on your maga hat, go over to the airport. Its a cold night. You wait in the security line as air force one taxis in to a halt, the president emerges and you hear him say this. If we win pennsylvania, we win the whole thing. Before the plague came in, i had it made. I wasnt coming to erie. I mean, i have to be honest. Theres no way i was coming. I didnt have to. I would say, hey, erie, if you have a chance, get out and vote. We had this thing won. So, robert, i guess thats his way of saying he needs pennsylvania. Joe biden is a native son. Polling puts biden almost within the margin of error, but lets call it a slim lead. Talk about the stakes here. The comment by the president , brian, is actually quite revealing. In 2016 i took a 350mile road trip across pennsylvania in the final week of the campaign, and what i noticed in western pennsylvania, in northwestern pennsylvania, in central pennsylvania was an outpouring of enthusiasm among low propensity Republican Voters to come out for then candidate trump. And because of the turnout he had in central and western pennsylvania, he was able to beat secretary clinton in pennsylvania by a very narrow margin. Because she underperformed compared to the Obama Coalition in the city of philadelphia, and President Trump did better than expected in some of those suburban enclaves around philadelphia. Four years later, he needs to come to erie because he needs the turnout to be just as strong if not stronger because his entire campaign knows, the president knows that Vice President biden is doing better with suburban voters than secretary clinton was four years ago or around the same range, and Vice President biden is paying more attention to cities like philadelphia, like milwaukee and wisconsin, in the industrial midwest. Making sure that his numbers are going to be better than clintons in pennsylvania. And thats why you see the president tonight in erie. Thats the kind of place he needs an extraordinary turnout if he wants to be competitive and win the white house again. Phil rucker, i saw you flag the nbc news reporting on the separated children and all these hundreds of sets of parents that have not been able to be contacted by their lawyers. Strikes me that in normal times, if we ever see them again, this would be lead story on broadcasts like this one. But, again, the frogboiling experiment of what our lives have become in 2020, do you think regardless of the outcome of this election, that policy, the children separation, things like the muslim ban will go down as socalled original sins of this presidency . They very well may, brian. These are some of the real human tragedies of these four years in america. Those are 545 children who because they migrated to the United States with their parents or with other family members seeking a better life and a hope in a new country were separated from their families at the border. And effectively taken from their parents, stolen from their parents. Theyve not been able to be reunited. They are now orphans. The government was not able to keep track of who their parents were or where their parents went. You know, its a catastrophe what happened there and its unfortunate that there is so much chaos and drama in the news that we dont pay a whole lot of attention to this story, but i dont think its going to go away, and i think regardless of the outcome of the election, theres probably going to be an effort, at least in some corners of this country, to investigate this further and to, you know, try to figure out what went wrong here and who should be held accountable for these lives that have been destroyed. So, kim, a largely successful twoterm democratic president that according to public polling over the past decade or so is often called the most popular man in the world. Barack obama goes on the trail tomorrow for the biden harris ticket. While i guess we dont give former president s assignments, for lack of a better word, what do you think his assignment will be . It will be turnout. I mean, joe biden and the democrats down ballot from him need a big turnout in order to win. At this point, its not a matter of convincing voters that are sitting on their on the sidelines mostly making up their minds. Polling has showed that the vast majority of voters have made up their mind, and, in fact, it is those that are more likely to vote for biden who are more solid and less soft in their support than those who are supporting President Trump. So this is a get out the vote effort and democrats are pulling out their top guns, their most popular folks to get out there. I think the only democrat probably thats more popular than barack obama is michelle obama, and we are seeing that in the leadup to ensure that even though we have seen lots of people early voting, theres two there are two weeks left for votes to be cast. And they want to ensure that despite the pandemic, despite the dispersions cast on mailin voting and early voting that folks get out and vote. And robert costa, last word goes to you. Please explain to the laypeople in our audience, myself included, who dont speak washington why it is Mitch Mcconnell doesnt want to deal with a stimulus bill when people are hurting because it may interfere with the passage of judge barrett to the Supreme Court. In brief, brian, based on my reporting today, secretary mnuchin and speaker pelosi, they cut the heros act earlier in the year. Its always been the white house and the speaker cutting these deals. Two weeks before this president ial election, two weeks before many of his senators put his majority on the line, im told that leader mcconnell doesnt want to be pulled into another deal thats not cut by him. He wants to set the terms. He sees the number inching toward 2 trillion and hes ready to draw the line on that, even though many republicans who are vulnerable in the house and in the senate are saying to him privately, im told, that they need that jolt, they need that stimulus to show something to their voters if theyre in a tight race. But at this point the majority leader feels like the speaker could be outplaying the white house and hes not going to put his thumbprint on it and his thumb on the scale and say im going to endorse that deal. With that, our thanks to kimberly atkins, to phil rucker, to robert costa. Greatly appreciate the three of you starting us off tonight. Coming up for us, the calls are coming from inside the party now. More prominent republicans distance themselves from the president. And later, in some cases covid is the disease that moves in to stay. The survivor stories we should all hear months in the making. The illness they thought theyd shaken off is now the illness that wont go away. All of it as the 11th hour is just getting under way on this tuesday night. So youre a small business, or a big one. You were thriving, but then. Oh. Ah. Okay. Plan, pivot. How do you bounce back . You dont, you bounce forward, with serious and reliable internet. Powered by the largest gig Speed Network in america. But is it secure . Sure its secure. And even if the power goes down, your connection doesnt. So how do i do this . You dont do this. We do this, together. Bounce forward, with comcast business. Many have said there would come a moment. Well, this is the moment because this ballot is like none ever cast. Now, im a lifelong republican and im still a republican, but this ballot is how we restore the soul of our nation, electing a good man, joe biden, and a trailblazer, kamala harris, and ensuring a peaceful transfer of power. Dont kid yourself, folks, that takes guts. Former rnc chairman, friend of this broadcast, Michael Steele formally endorsed joe biden in that new ad for the Lincoln Project and a piece he wrote for our network. Hes one of a growing number of prominent republicans taking this opportunity to stand up to the president. Hes in good company, we add. Retired admiral William Mcraven who led the s. E. A. L. Team 6 operation that killed osama bin laden. He doesnt care easily either. Mcraven offered this rare and remarkable rebuke of the president. This is about the future. It is the challenges that we are going to face in the future. We have a leader who knows how to build alliances, who knows how to build coalitions, who can bring the country together to tackle these tough challenges. President trump has shown that he cannot do that. He cant do it domestically. He hasnt worked with the governors on everything from covid to the wildfires. And he cant do it internationally. Weve seen that both on covid and on most of the Major National security issues. With us tonight, Steve Schmidt, longtime political strategist who led the mccain 08 campaign, has since left the Republican Party. And the aforementioned Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National committee. Former Lieutenant Governor of maryland. Now the host of the Michael Steele podcast. These two gentlemen have worked together through the campaign through their joint work with the Lincoln Project. Good evening and welcome to both of you. Michael, i put together a graphic here of some prominent republicans who are also voting for biden. Colin powell, carly fiorina, john kasich, flake ridge and cindy mccain. Do you wish there were more . I do. I do. I know that there are still those who, you know, are quietly and secretly keeping their support for for joe biden, you know, under cover. But this is a moment that we all as republicans who believe in the foundational lincolnesque, you know, ideas and values, we have to step into this moment. And its hard. You know, im not going to play this off as easy. Steve can tell you i had, you know, a hearttoheart with my friend about about this and what it meant. And but, you know, you realize when youre called to the moment, and i and i hope over the next two night two weeks that more republicans who believe in those principles from reagan, eisenhower, the bush the bushes, and everyday republicans out there that you stand with us and with them in this moment. Steve schmidt, heres something you and your colleagues wrote. History chooses us. If you ever wondered what side of the Edmund Pettus bridge you would have stood on, this is your chance to choose. Those who went before faced dogs and fire hoses and yet they did not flinch. Steve, heres the question. Under way currently is what i like to call the great migration. Look at ben sasse. Look at john cornyn. Its conceivable six months from now Lindsey Graham will say he never met donald trump. This is the great walkback. The question to you is, what does the Republican Party, your lifelong party, look like after this election . What i believe will happen, brian, is that donald trump will be will be repudiated and humiliated in the election on november the 3rd. That many of the senators will be defeated. Im certainly hopeful that Jaime Harrison will defeat Lindsey Graham in the South Carolina race. That joni ernst will be defeated. And all of these senators who stood idly by in this era, who gave trump their silent complicit acquiescence as he damaged this country in incalculable ways. They should, none of them, serve in national leadership. It should be a disqualification for future president ial races. And over time you hope that the party will rebuild with a more decent bunch of characters than we than we have now. But the but the bottom line is all of these senators have latched themselves to trump. Its going down. And the reality is is that in defeat, the Republican Party is likely to become crazier. Well have 30 of the country that never accepts the legitimacy of the election. The stab in the back. The betrayal. The Conspiracy Theory about how the election was stolen will become an article of faith for a majority of the Republican Party. You know, that also believes, for instance, that president obama was a muslim who was born in kenya, despite all the contrary evidence that, in fact, he was not. He was a nativeborn american citizen. So the insanity is loose. Youll have more qanon candidates, more conspiracy theorist candidates, and when republicans go out of power, the party of the party that will seize power and seize total control is the entertainment wing of the gop, the fox news wing. And so the extremism is going to increase not decrease in defeat. Thats a lot to think about. We will do so. Both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with us as we just fit in a quick break here. Coming up, well preview the debate two nights from now, at least as scheduled, with both of these gentlemen. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. A livcustomizeper iquickbooks for me. Okay, youre all set up. Thanks that was my business gi, this ones casual. Get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks. Ari fleisher last night on hannity said the president should interrupt less. Will you change your strategy from this last debate in this debate . Well, i may do that. The interesting thing they said is if you let him talk, he will lose his chain over thought because hes gonzo. He loses his train. He loses his mind, frankly. The president calling into what Steve Schmidt tells us we should refer to as the entertainment wing of the gop. A little glimpse of the president s strategy going into the second debate after the Dumpster Fire of a first debate. Still with us are Steve Schmidt and Michael Steele. Hey, steve, we had some actual journalists writing with a straight face as recently as last night that the president will unveil a new tone, make more jokes in this debate thursday night. So lets wait and see on that. What about what about biden . What should his strategy be . Hunter bidens going to come up, as sure as you and i are sitting here. And as sure as you and i are sitting here, the president s going to say weve done more in 47 months than he did in 47 years in washington. Last time biden let that line sit there, sit out there. He didnt answer it. How aggressive should he be . What material should we have preloaded in his weapon . I think the Vice President needs to look in the camera, speak directly to the American People and say you know me and i know you. And i think he should say to the American People dont be afraid that this afraid, that this is almost over now. That donald trump is on the edge of being humiliated and repudiated. He should look to donald trump and say that hes the worst president in the history of the country, and that the lie he told the country is responsible, if you were to measure against the mortality rates in germany, for instance, is responsible for at least 150,000 dead americans and hell be responsible for hundreds of thousands of more because of the idiocy and the insanity and the lethality of his covid lying. He should look at him and say you wrecked the economy. That youre standing up here talking about the best economy in forever is nonsense. You destroyed the economy with the incompetency of your response to covid. Youve wrecked the american way of life. You have shattered families. Youve assaulted our institutions. You have divided us. I think he should stay calm when he attacks hunter biden look President Trump in the eye and say, why did you pay more taxes in china than you paid in the United States . Why do you have a chinese bank account and who do you owe 500 million to . Any idea or notion that joe biden has conducted himself in any other but in any other way but the most honorable way during that 47 years is complete and total nonsense. We know what joe bidens Public Record is. This is the most corrupt and indecent person to ever hold high office in this country. Hes assaulting joe bidens integrity. Its a joke. So i think that joe biden has to stay there, be calm, be steady, dont get provoked by trump. Trumps going to be trump, but the countrys made up its mind about him. This is collapsing. Its all going down. Its a campaign in chaos. And you saw donald trump today walking out of the 60 minutes interview. Hes cracking under the pressure. Michael steele, because, indeed, when you gentlemen talk, i listen. I remember the night you came on this broadcast and said it is time for biden to get out. He needs to get out there and see the people and they need to see him. Im asking you about that comment because hes been down. No Public Events lately. Doing debate prep. Do you think there is a danger to that . Or because this is such a unicorn of a of a race in a unicorn of a political season he can get away with it because his opponent is doing his own damage every day . I think thats the critical part right there. The Biden Campaign has had, unlike campaigns in the past do, far less in terms of framing the narrative around his opponent because his opponent frames the narrative for him. I mean, the 60 minute thing is just the ice the tip of the iceberg of stuff thats out there that donald trump does every day with every tweet. To frame the narrative about himself and his presidency in this election. So biden is going to take, you know, has taken the last few days to get himself ready for what will be another you know what show on thursday. I i love the president out here on fox talking about, you know, biden forgetting his train of thought if you just let him talk. Hes projecting again. Thats him. You heard it in the interview. He lost his he lost his train of thought in giving the answer about bidens train of thought. So biden is going to be sitting there just listening to him going, okay, whatever, and continue, to steves point, to talk to the American People. Biden will close the deal on thursday. Donald trump will not. And the reason he he wont is because he cant. Because in order to do that, he has to account for 200,000 dead americans. He has to account for 8 million americans infected with covid19. He has to account for the civil unrest in this country. He has to account for the flatlining economy and why 14 million Americans Still dont have their jobs back. And you just cant blame it on the governors, and you have to account for your overall handling of this virus. And the moment he does, again, hes just created another narrative about himself. I know a closing note when i hear one, and that was one if ive ever heard it. Steve schmidt, Michael Steele, gentlemen, its always a pleasure. Thank you both for coming on with us tonight. And coming up for us after this next break, millions of americans, as michael was just saying, can now identify as covid survivors, including our next guest who is here tonight to share her experience and talk about how its become a Movement Among others. Our next guest here tonight was probably not surprised to hear that the first lady cancelled her trip to pennsylvania this evening because she is still dealing with lingering symptoms from the coronavirus. Her husband, the president , spent tonight at a packed Campaign Rally in erie, pennsylvania. Of course no two cases are alike, and thats the point we want to make here. Some never develop symptoms but are carriers. Some recover seemingly quickly and perhaps after just a mild illness. Then there are the socalled longhaulers. Those who, make no mistake, feel fortunate every day to have survived it, though they are dealing with longterm lingering and morphing symptoms that arent yet fully understood. Theres a lot of them and theres strength in numbers, and now there is a movement with their interests in mind. To that end, we are so pleased to welcome to our broadcast diana bairnt. She got sick in march and perhaps thought she had recovered, but her experience since then has turned her into an advocate for her fellow patients. While still in isolation she founded the group called survivor corps. And, diana, ive got to say i was so moved by your spirit and your knowledge and your alarm in some of the previous interviews ive seen you do. Take us back, second of march, as i understand it. Youre a young mom, early 40s, good physical shape, a photographer, youre living your life. You get sick, and as you put it, its a tylenol and gatoradetype sick. Take us through what happened after that. So back in early march, brian, we thought this was something, you know, you have to wash your hands and not touch your face and youd be safe. I was actually extremely careful. I had been watching the news. Im not a germaphobe but i am a news junkie. I had been watching it coming. I got exposed at a meeting on march 9th. It was not a social meeting. A couple of the people at the meeting had been at a conference in new york in the previous few days that turned out to be a superspreader event. Everybody in the group was infected and one person died three days later. I had, like you said, a tylenol and gatorade variety of covid. I isolated at home under no medical supervision just like 99 of people with covid. And after three weeks, i thought that i was better. I ran out and immediately donated my plasma. I started participating in every trial that i could, knowing that so many mysteries about this virus, the answers lie in the bodies of survivors like me. And what happened after i started survivor corps was that people started sharing their stories and we became sort of the canary in the covid coal mine, so to speak. And so we started seeing things, you know, long before it hit the media. We saw covid months earlier. We saw all these things. And what we started to see at the end of april were members of our group who were not recovering, and that started to raise some alarms. You know, you see one, you see five, you see ten, when you see 20, it starts to become a trend, and now the cdc is saying 1 out of 3 people infected with covid are not recovering in the time expected. And of those 1 in 5 are young, Healthy People with no preexisting conditions. And might i add when they say young, that means 18 to 34. Im 46. I dont count in that category. And one of the other things that we have learned since early march, brian, is that this is not a respiratory disease, it is a vascular disease, and that explains why it is ravaging every single organ system in the body. And so we have members in their 20s, in their 30s who are suffering heart attacks months after mild cases of covid. Theyre having strokes. Covid onset diabetes. Covid onset lupus. Really, really tremendous damage. I was actually recently diagnosed with covid onset glaucoma because any organ that has, you know, has blood supply, there can be clots. And we are seeing, you know, it is almost like these people have aged decades in a matter of months. Their youth has been torn away from them. They are not being believed by their doctors. And the numbers are growing in such frightening, you know, its just skyrocketing. Were looking at another the Huge Public Health disaster on our hands. The notion of you having vision problems, especially given your occupation, is haunting and frightening. How else is it with you just today . How else did you feel differently today because of what happened to you on march 9th . I have to say, i spent most of today in bed. I was having a lot of g. I. Issues and headaches and inner ear pain. I will say that it comes and goes for me. And i will also tell you, brian, i am extremely lucky. What youre looking at here is not a typical longhauler. The people who are suffering from longterm covid would not be able to do this interview right now because they would be in bed. They are incapacitated. Dont look at me as an example. I am a good spokesperson but im not a good example. Im extremely lucky. And thats with glaucoma and with lingering symptoms 7 1 2 months into it. No question thats why it was important to me to point that out about all of you. Yeah. Thank you for coming on. We were really happy to be able to have you come on the broadcast, especially given your day and the fact that youre not feeling great all the time. Diana berrent, i hope your words have reached all all the intended people tonight. The group again for our viewers is called the survivor corps. You can look them up online. Coming up, a report from london tonight on those who have now volunteered to get the coronavirus as part of the Research Toward a vaccine. And. Still a father. But now a friend. Still an electric car. Just more electrifying. Still a night out. But everything fits in. Still hard work. Just a little easier. Still a legend. Just more legendary. Chevrolet. Making lifes journey, just better. We mentioned this before the break. Researchers in the uk are working on a controversial, to be sure, new vaccine trial that will deliberately infect people with the coronavirus. Some volunteers are already lining up to be part of this study. Others, however, call it unethical. We get our report on it tonight from our chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel in london. Reporter scientists at this London Hospital are preparing to deliberately infect volunteers with the coronavirus to test the effectiveness of vaccines and treatments. The socalled challenge trial is much faster than whats happening now. With volunteers around the world who live normally at home and may or may not ever become infected. In a challenge trial, infection is guaranteed. Sophie rose, a student at John Hopkins University studying in the uk wants to take part. The best way to tackle these problems is to start with these trials in a young, healthy populations where the risk is lower. What happens if one of these volunteers dies. The way these trials are designed, theyre definitely informed and acknowledge that there is a risk of death. Reporter the first step, infect 90 volunteers 18 to 30 years old with the minimum required to get them sick enough to then test vaccines or treatments but not enough to make them seriously ill. Some researchers object on ethical grounds. They inject Healthy Volunteers with a virus for which we have no cure at the moment. If we were to have a cure, an effective treatment, i would be all for it. Reporter the challenge trials still need approval here in the uk, but that is expected to be granted. They could start as early as january. Our thanks to our chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel for that report from london tonight. And coming up for us, two men running for governor have done something very different. Its so remarkable it has us thinking of a simpler time. Well show it to you when we come back from the break. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. Last thing before we go tonight. We try to do this, this is a rare chance to end on an up note. Especially if you live in a battleground state, you cant avoid the campaign ads on tv these days. Theyre ubiquitous and mostly theyre mean. In keeping with our thoroughly broken and toxic politics. So when we saw the following today, we knew we had to share it with you. Here now a campaign ad from the utah governors race. Youll immediately see whats different about this one. Im chris petersen. And im spencer cox. We are currently in the final days of campaigning against each other to be your next governor. And while i think you should vote for me. Yeah, but, really, you should vote for me. There are some things we both agree on. We can debate issues with degrading each others character. We can disagree with hating each other. And win or lose in utah, we work together. So lets show the country theres a better way. My names chris peterson. And im spencer cox. And we approve this message. How about that . Lets just savor that for a moment, two men running against each other for utah governor appearing in a Public Service announcement that one journalist today called the most utah thing ever. And isnt it possible, to paraphrase the classic yuletide song, that we need a little utah right this very minute . That is our broadcast for this tuesday night. Thanks for being here with us. On behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night. Tonight on all in. They may not like me, but they like what im doing. Two weeks until the election, americans arent just rejecting trump, theyre rejecting his ideas. He should be in jail. Tonight as the president threatens to jail his opponent and lashes out on covid, new polling and new reporting on what america wants from its leader. Then as wisconsin voters line up in the cold weather to cast their votes, the alarming and unprecedented covid surge in the midwest. And the Supreme Court ruling that looked like a victory for democracy, but has all kinds of pitfalls for the future of Voting Rights when all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. All right. We are officially two weeks from the end of voting in the 2020 election. We dont say election day anymore because voters across the country are already mailing in ballots and heading to the polls. Today was the first day of inperso

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