They actually want to get rid of it. Instead we have to go the opposite way. We must invest more energy and resources in Police Training and recruiting and community engagement. We have to respect our police. We have to take care of our police. Theyre protecting us. Trump made those comments at a roundtable discussion with Law Enforcement, faith leaders, Small Business owners at a mega church in dallas. It was billed as an opportunity for him to announce the administrations plan for holistic revitalization and recovery after George Floyds death. During the conversation, the president avoiding any mention of george floyd by name, also focused on what many say is systemic bias within police forces. We have to Work Together to confront bigotry and prejudice wherever they appear, but well make no progress and heal no wounds by falsely labeling tens of millions of decent americans as racist or bigots. We have to get everybody together. We have to be on the same same path, i think, pastor. If we dont do that, well have problems. And well do that. I think were going to do that very easily. It will go quickly, and it will go very easily. We want compassion. We want everything. What happened two weeks ago was a disgrace when you see that. Were dominating the streets with compassion because were saving lives and were saving businesses. Were saving families from being wiped out after working hard for 20 and 30 years. Dallas morning news notes that todays event, quote, excluded the top three Law Enforcement officials in the county police chief, sheriff, district attorney, who all happen to be black. In terms of actual policy, trump says hell issue an executive order to encourage departments to follow the most current professional standards on use of force. Meanwhile, the decision to use force to clear protesters from Lafayette Square last week continues to roil the pentagon and strain relations with the white house. In fact, our network is reporting army general mark milley, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, famously seen walking into Lafayette Park wearing camo battle fatigues, weighed the idea of resigning over the criticism of his role in the operation, which of course concluded with that awkward photo op with a bible at st. Johns church. Afterward, general milley reportedly spent hours looking at social media, reading news articles. He saw dozens of people calling him out for showing up in combat fatigues at a peaceful civilian protest. Today he apologized for his participation. It was in the form of a video he made for graduates of the National Defense university. As many of you saw the result of the photograph of me at Lafayette Square last week, that sparked a National Debate about the role of the military in civil society. I should not have been there. My presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. As a commissioned, uniformed officer, it was a mistake that ive learned from. The pentagon has now ordered an afteraction investigation into the National Guard participation in that operation on monday last week. Meanwhile, the Public Health crisis that has engulfed our country since february now raising new alarm for good reason as coronavirus cases that we know of move north of 2 million and deaths are now over 114,000. The covid tracking project finds, quote, the pandemic is splitting in two. As covid19 recedes from the initial u. S. Epicenters in new york and new jersey, cases continue to grow in the southern and western United States. For the First Time Since april 1, there are now more cases of covid19 in both the south and west than there are in the northeast. 21 of our u. S. States are seeing a rise in new cases, tennessee among them. The mayor of nashville now taking precautions, delaying whats called phase three of their reopening plan. Hospital admissions for covid19 also rising in about a dozen of our states right now. Arizona very hard hit, now experiencing a second week of sharp increases. That States Department of health says icu hospital bed usage approaching 80 . And this all comes as one Health Expert is issuing an alarming prediction about fatalities because of the virus. Over the next three months, we will cross the 200,000 mark. Were at about 113,000 now. So sometime in september, were going to cross 200,000, and we still wont be done, right . This pandemic is going to be with us till next spring or summer when we have a vaccine. New fears about a resurgence of the virus coupled with a grim prediction on economic recovery by the chairman of the fed that received very little notice yesterday when he said it pushed stocks down today. The dow dropped 1,861 points, nearly 7 of its total volume. Worst session in three months time. The economy still losing jobs although at a slower rate. 1. 5 Million People filed unemployment claims just last week. Over 44 million of our fellow citizens were put out of work over just the past 12 weeks. The white house has taken note of concerns about a new wave of coronavirus cases possibly triggering another lockdown. Well, today the treasury secretary said thats not happening. We cant shut down the economy again. I think weve learned that if you shut down the economy, youre going to create more damage. We have main street, which is going to be now up and running, and were prepared to go back to congress for more money to support the american workers. On that note, here with us for our leadoff discussion on a thursday night, jonathan lemire, White House Reporter for the Associated Press. Kimberly atkins, senior washington correspondent for wbur, bostons npr news station. And dr. Vin gupta. Hes an e. R. Doc specializing in these kinds of illnesses, also an affiliate professor with the university of Washington Department of Health Metrics sciences. Good evening to you all. Kimberly, id like to start with you. The initial billing was we should expect perhaps a National Address on race by this president this week. This week is about out. Today we didnt get much. We did hear a doubling down on law and order and supporting the police. Is that it until i guess we read the wording on an executive order . I would suspect so. I think the people who we have seen and heard from protesting out of concern about criminal justice reform, out of concern about seeing black People Killed by police in various videos more videos seem to be coming out every day. When you talk to them, they dont say they would really like to hear the president address the nation. I think 3 1 2 years in when there have been multiple tragedies or crises facing the nation, the president has shown that he is not the consoler in chief. He is not the unifier. He thinks in political terms, and those political terms tend to be divisive. He has an enemy, and its his side against the other side, and this is proving to be no different. So it seems that the talk, all of the talk of trying to have this broad conversation on race when the biggest message hes done so far on race is what the hell do you have to lose didnt seem like a good approach. What he wants to do is move beyond this. He doesnt want to lose the support that he sees from police. But the problem is when he ran on the lawandorder platform in 2016 and had people chanting Blue Lives Matter at the Republican National convention, that was a very different time. Things have shifted since then. Back then, black lives matter was being widely panned and condemned by a broader number of people. Some folks were calling it a terrorist organization. Now you see suburbanites, you see soccer moms protesting in suburbs saying black lives matter. So the calculation may not be politically sound at this point, but the president is sticking with it. He sees that as a winning political message, and thats what hes forging forward with. Jonathan lemire, lets talk about the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. He is a generally taciturn, pressshy new englander. Hes from massachusetts. He likes all the same sports teams you do and likes to talk about them and little else. Highly unusual to hear the chairman of the jcs apologize for anything. Even more unusual when you add in our nbc news reporting from Courtney Kube about this crisis he had personally reading the criticism, reading the coverage, wondering what to do and wondering about his legacy. A little bit surprising, silence from the president thus far. Is it the same in the rest of the west wing . Brian, if youd prefer, we could just talk about the new England Sports teams tonight, and kimberly, i should mention, is a red sox fan as well. No thanks, im good. Fair enough. Where we are, brian, is this was an extraordinary moment, and the quotes came over first in written form, and then we saw the video of general milley, and it was even more powerful. We had reporting, my colleagues at the Associated Press had some terrific reporting earlier in the week. He was privately telling people he had regrets about how this played out, particularly that he was there in his battle fatigues because he had gone home and changed and then whirled back to the white house. He was summoned back. He didnt like the look. This was his effort today to express regret, but to also try to reestablish that separation between the politics of the white house and the business of the pentagon. And i think that coming on the heels of a number of other National Security officials, both current and retired, including of course the former secretary of Defense James Mattis speaking out against the president , we are seeing a real hard line drawn here, that the president should not have used the military as a prop if you will or as part of his photo op a week or so ago when they cleared Lafayette Park so he could stand in front of st. Johns holding a awkwardly holding a bible. And it also goes to show the president connecting to what kimberly was saying, the sort of out of step he is right now with this moment, it seems, where all these institutions the military, yes, but also sports figures, pop culture figures, soccer moms all seem to be really the black lives matter moment and Movement Really resonating with them while the president is doubling down like today, again saying that he would not have the names of confederate generals stripped from American Military institutions, that he doesnt want that, that, again, he focused only on the lawandorder aspect of this roundtable he held in dallas with not even really a nod towards the concerns of those who have filled the american streets, largely peacefully over the last few weeks. Hes doubling down on a case here many believe is racist, and hes showing no signs of budging whatsoever even though simply forget morally, even politically it appears to be damaging. And, indeed, dr. Gupta, were having this conversation in the midst of a pandemic, something because of what weve been covering these past 16, 17 days weve had to remind ourselves and our audience. Another reminder we got today is they are always watching, and i point to this graphic that shows us using our cell phones. And what this graphic showed to the folks who analyze them for a living is a lot of us are back to prepandemic levels of going out, gathering with others. Whats the risk out there right about now, dr. Gupta . Thanks, brian. You know, heres the problem. Whereas previously in march when we thought the first wave began and we had a fighting chance, we had a president that was compelled to potentially cooperate. We had a public that was willing to tolerate big intrusions into their personal life, social distancing, masking, now were seeing weaken across the board. Were seeing the georgia governor, for example, saying if youre a waiter or waitress in a restaurant, you can scrap the mask. Makes no sense, but he says you can scrap the mask. So no masking in georgia is now okay in places like public restaurants. Arizona icu bed capacity, they have no surge capacity. Theres no crash beds, and thats a problem. Thats a huge and thats a problem nationwide. We had to magically come across more icu beds in the last three months. We didnt learn the lesson to create permanent bed capacity. And now, by the way, warm temperatures didnt bring the reprieve we thought it would. Rio, its 85 and sunny. In texas, its 90 and sunny. By the way, texas has one of our worst outbreaks right now, a resurgence in cases. So those three are in and of itself concerning, but people are gathering. The most disturbing thing is the president is seeking informed consent for supporters of his who are going to attend his rally in oklahoma, a place thats also seeing a resurgence in cases. The only time you seek informed consent is when you think theres a potential for harm, one that youre trying to do something good for an individual. Thats the only time. Whats the benefit . Why is he seeking informed consent from people . Theyre worried. Theyre worried theyre going to get sued because this is going to be a breeding ground for coronavirus, and yet theyre going ahead with it because theres political motives here, not the interests of his supporters at that rally. So this is deeply concerning. We have a president , a Vice President yesterday you saw the pictures cheering on his Campaign Members without masks. Were in trouble and were in trouble because the leadership at the top is grossly negligent and seems like theyre intentionally trying to be the adversaries of those of us in Public Health. Kim, indeed, back to the man at the top. Today at this roundtable, he talked about while not quite community policing, but policing by National Guard. He talked about the night after the paroxysm of violence of minneapolis where admittedly governor, mayor lost control of that city. They had to let the protesters have a police precinct. Heres the president talking about viewing the scene when the guard was in place the next night. It was like a knife cutting butter right through. Ill never forget. You saw the scene. On that road wherever it may be in the city, minneapolis. They were lined up. Boom, they just walked straight. And, yes, there was some tear gas and probably some other things, and the crowd dispersed, and they went through. By the end of that evening and it was a short evening everything was fine, and you didnt hear too much about that location having problems anymore. They went to other locations. So, kim, of course, that reflects one side of whats been going on on the streets, but that is the side he has chosen to walk forward for the next 145 days. Yes. He is going to walk that side from this point forward. Hes been walking that side for four or five years now. He sees strength in force. He talked about domination. Remember, before the Lafayette Square was cleared out, he excoriated governors for not looking strong, for looking weak, for failing to have that strong presence. And, you know, if we go back to ferguson, if you recall, one of the lessons in ferguson in response to protests is that the militarization of the response led to an even greater problem than even existed before. And there was an effort across the country at police stations to deescalate, to not have a militarized response to protests. And even in the last few weeks, what you saw is first curfews were imposed, and you had that very Strong Police response, which just encouraged more interactions. Once the curfews were lengthened or dropped, you saw the protests get much more peaceful. The protests the curfews just set up a law for the protesters to break, which encouraged a police interaction, and mayors and Police Chiefs were learning in real time that deescalation, dropping that, was the best way to go. You see the president still wants to see troops in the streets. He still wants to see a federalized force just like during his campaign. I keep going back to this, but he threatened to send federal police to cities like chicago, which was both this lawandorder approach and it wassal a bit of a dog whistle because he was threatening to send these kinds of forces into predominantly black places. So he is doubling down. He is not going to back off. He is not seeing the change in the moment in so many people. He wants to have the support of police officers, and i wouldnt be surprised if we once again hear shouts of Blue Lives Matter at the rally hes going to hold in tulsa. And, jonathan lemire, speaking of that tulsa rally, i know you guys at the a. P. Have some reporting on that. Theres also this. The president has decided to accept the nomination in jacksonville, florida, not charlotte, north carolina, as planned. It coincides with one of the darkest days in the citys history. The president will address his supporters on the 60th anniversary of ax handle saturday, when a white mob organized by the kkk attacked mostly black civil rights protesters sitting at the citys whitesonly lunch counters. So you combine that with tulsa and dripping significance of tulsa, a friend of mine asked me straightup tonight, is someone that dastardly in the president s circle, or can we chalk any of this up to mistake, sloppiness, coincidence . Brian, we have the answer for that. First on jacksonville, youre right. A lot of the sort of business oriented parts of the convention will remain in charlotte, but the forwardfacing aspects of the president s speech will be in jacksonville. He wants a big crowd, no masks. I might note its the end of august. Not only will it be brutally hot and humid in jacksonville, thats also the peak of hurricane season. In terms of the tulsa rally, his return to rallies, his first one since the pandemic began, next friday it is juneteenth. Yes, my colleague and i reported for the Associated Press. Members of the Trump Campaign staff, they very much were aware of that anniversary. They knew that june 19th, what it meant. They knew the location in tulsa, the site of that race riot in the 1920s might be inflammatory. They expected some blowback. They were caught off guard by how intense it was, but there was no discussion of changing the date. The president mentioned the rally yesterday, the campaign we had 24 hours of controversy. The campaign went ahead and officially announced it today, including putting out that invite for tickets that says you cant sue the campaign. You cant hold them liable if you get coronavirus. Certainly they wanted a big crowd. Oklahoma did not have quite at least not yet the surge in covid19 infections as other states. Its a deep red state. Its certainly not a swing state, but there is a Congressional District nearby. They hope to flip from the democrats. The republicans, more than anything, they just want to do it fast. The governor there says hes cooperative. Here you go. The arena is ready to go. You can put this rally on in a couple weeks. Thats why theyre forging forward with no second thoughts over a date that means a lot to a lot of people and upset a lot of people yesterday. Dr. Gupta, a quick one for you to round us out. Wheres the cdc . Wheres the Coronavirus Task force . Nothing but silence. We heard from dr. Birx giving advice to the governors but only because the audio was leaked. I invoked your name earlier this afternoon. You are now what passes for our Public Health experts that we pass along to the public. We can only were only left to theorize that its fear of the president that those two entities have gone silent during a pandemic. Well, brian, thank you for giving myself and my colleagues a platform here, for platforming truth. Youre right. Who do i look to for truth when we see the w. H. O. , for example, walk back a grievous mistake in saying asymptomatic transmission of covid19 isnt a real thing. I look at dr. Fauci. Wheres dr. Fauci . Hes nowhere to be found. We have this tulsa rally to look forward, which is going to be as jonathan said a breeding ground for coronavirus. People say liberties are being taken away, they cant sue if they get sick. This is a big problem, brian. You mentioned it time and again. Were leaderless when it comes to Public Health because we dont have the right people at the platform making the case for what is right and whats wrong. On that note, jonathan lemire, kimberly atkins, dr. Vin gupta, our thanks for starting us off on this thursday night. We greatly appreciate having the three of you. Coming up for us, the president says theyre part of our Great American heritage. Theres the h word, but those are actually confederate names on some of our best known military bases that folks now want to change. Well talk to a retired Army Lieutenant general who served at one of the bases in question. And later were having a president ial election, lets not forget, in 145 days during a pandemic. Seems like a good time to get a prediction out of James Carville who is standing by to join us live tonight as the 11th hour is just getting under way on this thursday evening. The president could be headed for a fight with, of all people, his own republican senators who have shown him supreme loyalty at every turn. This is about renaming the u. S. Military bases that were named after Confederate Military commanders, including some big ones, well known names like ft. Bragg, benning, hood, polk. Today just as the president was saying republican senators would hopefully never go for it, the Republicanled SenateArmed ServicesCommittee Approved a proposal to strip confederate names from military bases within the next three years. The amendment was added to the Defense Authorization act by senator elizabeth warren. Just yesterday, trump said he would not consider renaming these bases, adding today, quote, those that deny their history are doomed to repeat it. Well, back with us tonight, retired u. S. Army Lieutenant General russel honore, who led the relief effort, of course, on the ground in new orleans in the days following katrina. He happens to be a 37year veteran of the u. S. Armed forces, and i am told after all that buildup, we have lost the general because these days, we are at the whim of a wifi provider. All right. Were going to try again. Well take a break. Hopefully well have the general with us on the other side. Al with us on the other side. With us tonight. And, general, if our hookup works here, i can say that your Internet Service provider has done what no foreign enemy was able to do, and that is silence russel honore. Its great to see you back onor. Its great to see you back again. The connection appears to be holding. I know you spent some time at ft. Benning. How would you feel if we renamed that one for somebody like omar bradley . Oh, that would be a good idea. I mean when i was a Deputy Commander there and i also spent some time at fort hood. Ive been three tours at ft. Benning. The unusual thing about this, while its time for them to be reconsidered and be renamed, the people that have served there, ft. Benning, ft. Bragg, and fort lee were named in the first world war. So think about how were building an army. You got to go in and take up a lot of farmland, local politicians. They had to vote, and they named them after confederate generals. And there are a lot of people thats just 50 years after the civil war. Its no wonder they ended up with those names. But they have become a brand now more than anything else. Should they be renamed . Yes. But its not a war stop. Theres not its time that they get renamed. Let me also ask you about statues. We see a lot of them coming down. We see a lot of them in the south, and we happen to know a lot of them honoring confederate generals in the civil war, confederate heroes in the civil war, were erected during the 1940s and 50s. This is not ancient history. Its hurtful history. They were on the losing side ideology and militarily, so what do you make of that . Well, there is a movement right here in louisiana. There was a proposal by our Lieutenant Governor because there are relatives of people who fought in the confederacy. I mean were one nation. I think weve gotten past that point. That think those monuments maybe should be put in a special park someplace. Thats an option. But to have them as the centerpiece right outside the courthouse and right outside the state capitols, i think the time is past because they remind us of a hateful past. And those who want to cling to that and keep that Confederate Flag alive, it just adds fuel to the fire. Its very hateful as a person of color to have to deal with that. General, ive got less than a minute. I know this is a potentially big question, but what did you make of the chairman of the joint chiefs, general milley, apologizing for how that looked in Lafayette Square . I thought last week the chairman had done a good job in sorting out the constitutional use of the insurrection act. I think he came back today and made a transition in speaking to the forces, speaking to the public that was clear. And its not a function that hes not loyal to the president. He is loyal to the president. Hes loyal to the constitution. But hes not the military is not a political system. It is a National Security system, and it should not be used for political purposes. General russel honore, of all the homes we are lucky enough to visit in the course of this broadcast, you have a den that i would like to spend some time in and see everything on the walls behind you. Always a pleasure to have a conversation with you, sir. Thank you for staying up late with us tonight. Coming up for us, what joe biden calls his single greatest concern about the november election. Our other louisianan, James Carville, with us to talk all things 2020 when we come back. Test test this president s going to try to steal this election. This is a guy who said that all mailin ballots are fraudulent. Have you ever considered what would happen if the election result came up as you being the winner and trump refused to leave . Staff coming out and ripping the skin off of trump. And you have so many rank and file military personnel saying, whoa, were not a military state. This is not who we are. I promise you im absolutely convinced they will escort him from the white house with great dispatch. President trump getting back out on the campaign trail next week despite the still spreading pandemic. As dr. Gupta talked about earlier in our broadcast tonight, tickets to the event are available. These are a little different. These are a little different they come with a waiver that you have to sign. It says it wont sue trump if you get the coronavirus by dint of having attended the rally. Polls showing trump trailing biden nationally. Perhaps part of the decision to get back on the road during a pandemic. With us tonight to talk about all of it, James Carville, veteran democratic strategist who rose to National Fame with the clinton president ial effort. Cohost of the 2020 politics war room podcast. Pride of louisiana. Pride of lsu. Pride of the usmc. James, its great to have you. Great to see you again. I am guessing you believe this president is on the wrong side of history, especially right now this week. I am also guessing you believe hes on the wrong side of a changing demographic in our country. Right. Brian, give me about 30 seconds for a point of personal privilege. My dear friend, general honore, was discussing ft. Benning. I happened to be born at ft. Benning. But my point is theres an army post in louisiana called ft. Polk whos named after a particularly incompetent confederate. I think they ought to change it to ft. Honore. I really do. I think it would honor a really great soldier, a really great louisianan, a man who has distinguished himself. And as opposed to having an incompetent confederate, why dont we name it after a highly Competent Army general . So thats my proposal. I actually hope it goes somewhere. I love that. Of course, trump is going to do everything that he possibly can to hold on to power. And the only possible way and i mean i think they would have to cheat so enormously to win this election, i dont think even they could pull it off. The result of this is our friend Eugene Robinson wrote, get over it, democrats. Youre going to win. Its not 2016. Quit being traumatized. Lets win by a lot. Lets crush this thing. Theres a real opportunity to really defeat trumpism and to make the Republican Party not a safe space for tom cotton and mike pompeo in 2024. A big defeat could do that. I think were on the verge of were living in a really compressed version of history right here. Things are happening here just in the month of june that i would have never imagined would happen at this speed. And i think theres some chance this is going to continue to happen. I really do. Well, let me ask you about 2016 because obviously the polls were screwy. Obviously other things were going on. But it was said that donald trump underpolled. It is said that donald trump, in talking about a silent majority, is looking for people who may not advertise that theyre for him, but if he talks about their hopes and deepest dreams enough, theyll vote for him. Do you think theres a percentage of the population over and above his base that could make any appreciable difference . Well, first of all, if you look at the polling averages back in 2016, i think they had mrs. Clinton up like three points. She won the popular vote by 2. 1. He obviously had some late 1 , 1. 5 surge in michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. Nate silver had it like a 7030 chance. All kinds of things happen when theres a 30 chance something is going to happen. It happens. But this is not even close. And just every day its moving against him. And the Republican Party is shrinking. And what many consider to be the best public poll, the nbc news wall street journal poll, people identified in this country as democrats are now 45 and republicans are 33 . Theyre shrinking right before your eyes. Theyre going to lose. In all likelihood, theyre going to lose bad. And 2016 had its set of dynamics. Just nothing was wildly off. He probably had a little late bump at the end of the election. Concede that. I thought mrs. Clinton was going to win, but i didnt think she was going to win by that much. Sometimes you hold off. You see these polling averages, eight, nine points, and hes incumbent. I used to think he was stuck at 43. It looks like hes getting stuck at 41. Its going the wrong way for him. I mean, just because what did you make of you had a projection of 3. 4 and you got one of 2. 1, thats not utterly shocking. If you look underneath that poll, its a lot worse for trump. Hes at 42, and hes incumbent. I dont know if he gets any more than that, and his position has deteriorated even since that poll was taken. What did you make of biden saying his worst fear was that trump wouldnt leave . You know, bill maher has been saying this, looking into the camera and saying this for months. One of his frequent guests, michael moore, agrees with him straight up. They think theres going to be some Monkey Business with the result. What do you make of that . Look, if the result is close enough, theyll monkey with anything. The result is not going to be that close, and he is going to leave. And if he does not, his own secretary he is so weak, so inept, his own secretary of defense, his own military chief of staff to flat out say they did the wrong thing, there would be so many soldiers and airmen and marines and sailors and coast guard in there to escort him out, you wouldnt believe it. Theyd have a military parade drumming him out of that place. I mean you cant imagine whats going on in the flag office called the United States military. This has traditionally been, i dont know, 85 republican demographic. I was talking to a friend of mine whos a retired general. I said i dont thing trump would get 30. He said, hes not going to get 30. I mean, this is something i never thought i would see in my life, that you would have the number of people coming forward, and im talking about very senior people in the United States military. Look at the commandant of the marine corps, a tulane guy. Congratulations, great guy. Banned all Confederate Flags. Now the navy has done the same thing. I mean, these people are not in the mood to put up with this guy one day longer than they legally have to. And i really believe that. This is a changed world. James carville has agreed not to move during this commercial break. Well just pick up our conversation on the other side. You doing okay . Yeah. This moving thing never gets any easier. Well, xfinity makes moving super easy. I can transfer my internet and tv service in about a minute. Wow, that is easy. Almost as easy as having those guys help you move. We are those guys. Thats you . The truck adds 10 pounds. In the arms. Okay. Transfer your Service Online in a few easy steps. Now thats simple, easy, awesome. Transfer your service in minutes, making moving with xfinity a breeze. Visit xfinity. Com moving today. Increasing concerns over whats to come on election day after georgias debacle of a primary election, which everyone predicted by the way. And with the president saying voting by mail is illegitimate, corrupt, it does appear we are going to have a president ial election during an active pandemic on top of all the usual impediments in all the usual areas. Luckily with us to talk about it is James Carville. James, lets talk about election security. Heres the math. 50 states have exactly 145 days to get it right. Georgia threatened to be a Dumpster Fire election, and they did not disappoint. It was a mess. What about georgia . What about florida . What about iowa . What about louisiana . Are you this is all up to these secretaries of state. Lets talk about georgia. I was born in georgia. I worked for zell miller when he ran for governor in 1990. They better get their act together. Theres a lot of talented people in georgia, and that secretary of state better reach out to these talented people. You have the Carter Center that knows how to run elections all over the world. You got delta airlines. You got cocacola. You got god knows whatnot. These businesspeople and Civic Leaders in georgia have to come in and say were not going to have this because people are going to get mad at the whole state. The idea that this brilliant important american state that given anything remotely like a fair election, the republicans are going to lose. But the powers to be in georgia need to go to the secretary of state and say, you know, you need Technical Assistance . Well give you Technical Assistance. You need this. Georgia does not need to blemish its image with a repeat of the 2018 election, which many people believe and im one of them that Stacey Abrams was denied the governorship from mucking around with the registration lists and precincts, the way they put the Voting Machines and god knows whatnot. And then you had this utter fiasco. I got a lot of friends in georgia. Come on, people, lets get on the stick here and have a fair election. Its a great state. It deserves better than its getting. Are you confident you mentioned this. They dropped 500,000 people from the voting rolls. Are you confident that 50 states with 145 days to get the job done can maintain the integrity of this election . I mean some are going to be better than others, and theyre going to do everything they can to hurt bidens chances, but its not going to be enough. Hes going to win by in my opinion, hes going to win by so much. And people you know, what were seeing now is an intense sense of fairness in this country, and weve seen it across the board. And i think theres a lot of independents and even many republicans who say, let people vote. What are we doing . Let my people vote. Thats as simple a message as you can have. And youre just seeing the country in a very refreshing way move toward we dont have to have this kind of injustice in the country. And the basic measurement of justice is allowing people to vote. And georgias got to get this thing right. You know, i hope they do because its not going to be good. Ive got a lot of friends in that state. Its a great state. A lot of history in that state. Theyve got to get their act together bigtime. And the democrats were on guard everywhere that you look around. Were looking for voter purges. Were looking for allocation of Voting Machines. Its going to be an effort like you wont believe. Our thanks to James Carville for having us in and spending part of his evening with us. All i ask, can i be your guest at the ft. Honore renaming ceremony . Well make a day of it. We will be there. Thank you, sir. Tonights installment of elections have consequences when we come back. Robinhood believes now is the time to do money. Without the commission fees. So, you can start investing today wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. This committee is advancing a judicial nominee with an anticivil rights record. His record, in fact, is an antithesis to what the American People are marching for and demanding right now. Last thing before we go tonight, another of our regular reminders that elections have consequences. Senator harris there talking about cory wilson of mississippi, who passed the Judiciary Committee today, meaning Mitch Mcconnell will now make sure he will be approved and sworn in for life as a federal Circuit Court judge. This means trump will have appointed just under 200 federal judges. Short of sending troops into battle, the most awesome power of the presidency is often referred to as the appointment of federal judges, who can then affect american law and life for 50 years or more after that president has left office. So many Trump Supporters who find donald trump personally and culturally and morally abhorrent find a way to support him because of his appointments to the federal bench. That includes some candidates deemed unfit by the american bar association. That used to be a straightup disqualification. These days its laughed at. Trumps partner in this is Lindsey Graham, who because elections have consequences is chairman of the Judiciary Committee, and they gavel through trumps choices. On the radio a few weeks back with the talk show host hugh hewitt, graham said something that used to be whispered about in washington. Its about old judges stepping aside for young judges, and as youll hear, he now just says the quiet part out loud. There have been 51 federal circuit judges confirmed. There are two awaiting votes that have i think ive heard have had hearings. Youll get those done. Yeah. Do you know if there are any more judges out there eligible for senior status who will take so . If you are, take it. Would you expand on that . Well, so the point is, and this is an historic opportunity. Weve put over 200 federal judges on the bench. I think one in five federal judges are trump appointees. If he can get four more years, i mean, it would change the judiciary for several generations. So if youre a circuit judge in your mid60s, late 60s, you can take senior status, now would be a good time to do that if you want to make sure the judiciary is right of center. This is a good time to do it. If they are an originalist eligible right now and theyre listening to Lindsey Graham, chairman, can you assure them that their successor will indeed be confirmed before the election . Well, if you wait, you know, november the 1st, no. So do it now. Do it now. Loud and clear. I need some time. Senator Lindsey Graham with tonights installment of elections have consequences. Thats our broadcast for this thursday night. Thank you ever so much for being here with us. On behalf of all my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. The countrys top military official offers an apology. General mark milley says hes sorry for participating the president s Controversial Photo op outside a church this month. 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