The cdc director was summoned forward to sing for his supper in effect and proceeded to admit the quote he gave the post was right. Dr. Fauci then got up and said, we will have coronavirus in the fall. I am convinced of that. There will be coronavirus in the fall. He added, thankfully, well be better prepared. The president was having none of that today. He said, you may not even have corona coming back. Its possible its not going to come back at all. The president has also started saying if there are socalled pockets or embers of coronavirus, well put it out very fast. He said all the World Leaders he talked to today said it was incredible that you solved the ventilator problem. He said if hed done nothing, we would have been so infected nobody would have believed it. He said testing for coronavirus is, very much of a media trap. He said, were going to give everybody what they want with the testing. He said were taking care of our seniors, other than me. Nobody wants to take care of me, he said. He said georgia is moving too soon to reopen tattoo parlors, spas and hair salons, even though he said, i love these people. Tattoo parlors. Bikers for trump. A lot of them have tattoos. Along the way he mentioned the obamas and oprah. He said we know more about iran than iran does. He promised air shows in the skies over our country this summer. And he compared his fourth of july crowd in washington last summer to dr. Kings speech at the reflecting pool in terms of crowd size. He said they were very similar according to photographs hes seen. But we return once again reluctantly to the real world tonight where the u. S. Death toll stands at more than 46,000 with over 833,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus. And in the midst of this Health Crisis the New York Times reporting the head of the federal Agency Working on a vaccine has been reassigned to another agency. Dr. Rick bright argues he was effectively demoted after pushing for extensive vetting of hydroxychloroquine. Thats the drug trump has pitched relentlessly from the podium in the White House Briefing room. Tonight the doctor issued a statement that reads in part, i believe this transfer was in response to my insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by congress to address the covid19 pandemic into safe and scientifically vetted solutions and not in drugs, vaccines, and other technologies that lack scientific merit. I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus science, not politics or cronyism, has to lead the way. Bright goes on to say he is filing a whistleblower complaint formally accusing Administration Officials of retaliation. Here is how trump responded when asked about dr. Bright. Never heard of him. You just mentioned the name. I never heard of him. When did this happen . This happened today. Well, i never heard of him. If the guy says he was pushed out of a job, maybe he was, maybe he wasnt. Youd have to hear the other side. I dont know who he is. Just yesterday a veteran Administration Study found this hydroxychloroquine showed no benefits for Covid Patients and in fact was linked to higher death rates. Over the past several weeks medical experts have expressed reservations about the drug and about the president s comments on its effectiveness. The fda also gave emergency authorization for hydroxychloroquine. Were having some very good things happening with it. Its shown very encouraging, very, very encouraging early results. There are some good signs. Youve read the signs. Ive read the signs. And i say it. What do you have to lose . Ill say it again. What do you have to lose . Take it. If things dont go as planned, its not going to kill anybody. It will be wonderful. It will be so beautiful. It will be a gift from heaven. If it works. If some other person put it forward theyd say, oh, lets go with it. You know. What do you have to lose . Try it. If youd like. Ive seen things that i sort of like. So what do i know . Im not a doctor. Im not a doctor. But i have common sense. And again, todays White House Briefing started with that remarkable attempt at a cleanup and a backtrack. As we mentioned, the director of the cdc told the Washington Post that a simultaneous flu and coronavirus outbreak this fall and winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through. This evening the cdc director tried to somehow revise his warning with the president there at his side. Dr. Robert redfield was totally misquoted in the media on a statement about the fall season and the virus. Totally misquoted. I spoke to him and he said it was ridiculous. I didnt say that this was going to be worse. I said it was going to be more complicated or more difficult. It doesnt mean its going to be more impossible. It doesnt mean its going to be more as some people have said worse. It just means its going to be more difficult. You were accurately quoted, correct. Im accurately quoted in the Washington Post. There you have it. The president then followed up with this assertion about a second coronavirus outbreak with that key followup from dr. Fauci. It may not come back at all. If we have embers of corona coupled with the flu, thats not going to be pleasant. But its not going to be what weve gone through in any way, shape or form. We will have coronavirus in the fall. I am convinced of that. So as our country prepares for whatever comes next from this virus, there is now a covid19 coalition of Southern States preparing to try to restart their economies over the next week. And tonight Georgia Governor Brian Kemp said hes moving forward with his decision to allow salons, gyms, and other businesses to open friday despite the president s surprising take on that decision this evening. I told the governor of georgia, brian kemp, that i disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase 1 guidelines. At the same time he must do what he thinks is right. I want him to do what he thinks is right. But i think spas and beauty salons and tattoo parlors and barbershops in phase 1 were going to have phase 2 very soon is just too soon. I think its too soon. On that note, here for our leadoff discussion on a wednesday night, peter baker, chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times. Ashley parker, pulitzer prizewinning White House Reporter for the Washington Post. And Michael Steele, former chairman of the Republican National committee, former Lieutenant Governor of maryland, now the host of the Michael Steele podcast. Good evening and welcome to all of you. Ashley, the president came out, said your newspaper misquoted the head of the cdc. Turns out he didnt like the headline. Also turns out if youre a doctor or a scientist the president may have trouble with you. Thats exactly right. The president didnt like the headline and more specifically he didnt like the way cnn seemed to characterize the posts interview with dr. Redfield. But the broader issue here is that the president has a task force understandably in the middle of a pandemic stocked with doctors, scientists, Public Health officials and these are the people who should be guiding the response. And they are doing the absolute best that they can. And theyve found that they can somewhat speak truth to power but only to an extent, and if they Say Something that contrasts with the president s world view, and this is a world view that in some moments is data driven but more frequently is prone to magical thinking and false statements and citing drugs with no evidence that they work as a possible cureall, if you are a scientist in this administration you will be forced to atone. You will not necessarily be pushed out or minimized, although that certainly has happened, but like what we saw with the cdc director today he was basically called up and told to say, you know, what the post reported i said i did not say. And it was striking to see him as the president stood there and basically glowered say i was absolutely accurately quoted in the post. But he did sort of try to play some semantic games to please the president saying i didnt say it would be worse, i said it would be more difficult. Well, when youre talking about dual respiratory diseases, one of which is a deadly pandemic, more difficult frankly does mean worse. We saw dr. Fauci put through that same on the spot ordeal just days ago. Hey, peter baker, you write tonight about this new movement on the right. The credo according to my watching of fox news seems to be if you cant save american lives save the american way of life. How big is this and is there an Acceptable Loss of life to them . The hard question thats at the core of the question of reopening, right . No matter what we do, whatever kind of reopening we have, without a vaccine or a cure youre going to basically risk the idea that youre going to have an increase in deaths. The question then becomes how do you minimize those potential deaths and how many is too many . And this is the question thats really dividing the country right now because there is a tradeoff on the other side. The economy with 22 Million People out of work. The people being pushed into poverty who cant afford food or medicine or shelter for their own families. Theres a cost to staying closed as well. And what you hear from these governors, and i called and talked to a few of them about this, is they recognize theyre in this really miserable position of having to decide between or at least find a balance between life and livelihood and where do they fit on that balance. How can they find a way to reopen the economy, get people working again without a major risk of an outbreak . The president is obviously eager to push the country into normal life right away. Some of the governors, particularly the democrats, but even some of the republicans are wary of that, particularly in the northeast where theyve had such an outbreak. But they also recognize that they cant stay closed forever. How can they manage it without the kind of comprehensive testing Public Health experts say is necessary in order to minimize that risk . And its a really interesting debate. It even divides individual families. I talked to rahm emanuel. You know rahm well of course. Hes the former mayor of chicago, former white house chief of staff. Hes one who believes the country cannot stay closed for an extended period of time without deep damage and that sometimes there is risk in society and we need to find a way to manage it. And his brother ezekiel emanuel, also i think a guest of yours, prominent medical ethicist. And his view and these two brothers are fighting about it on the phone most days. And he says this is a much worse threat than weve seen in a long time and we cant rush back anything even approximating normal life. Michael steele, those of us who are able to work these days are lucky to have it. Lets start with the baseline assumption that no one who is home these days is there because they like it. They dont want to get this thing. And so this brings us to an interesting spot between donald trump and his base. Hes been exhorting to liberate certain states, yet when push comes to shove and they all get together and go to a georgia tattoo parlor, and georgia got real yesterday, the president s backing up and saying too soon. Yeah. I think some sober heads prevailed in this conversation regarding georgia with the president and really struck home with the president the point that you cannot as president take a risk being out here encouraging this behavior in a way that on the back end something tragic happens. And thats a real concern here. And i really appreciate the point that peter just made, and i dont think we can lose sight of that. There is this very fine line between our economy and our health. And it is more stark now than it has ever been. And i think at the end of the day a lot of governors have come to the conclusion that in order to really address that i cant begin to do it until i see some change on the health side of this thing. Because i cannot open an economy when were still having an increase in deaths and an increase in infections. And the problem on the latter point is that they dont have the tests in place to make sure that theyre addressing the infections appropriately and that they have in fact turned that corner when you can effectively say on a gradual basis we can begin to open up the economy. What georgias doing is foolhardy. It is obstinate. And it is ignorant. Because you are not georgia in a point where youve turned that corner. Youve not had 14 days of clearing under the phase 1 protocols to say to those powers and those businesses that they can reopen. And i think thats what prevailed ultimately on the president and made him turn the corner that he did, really an aboutface on opening up right now. Ashley, though we never leave it, lets dive back into the realm of the political. You report tonight and we have a graphic to put on the screen, according to a post analysis, since the federal guidelines were announced on march 16, trump has spoken 63 of the time compared with dr. Birx at 10 , fauci at 5 . Ashley, do you have any reason to believe the president s air time percentage is going to decrease . And are any of the democrats that the post is talking to mentioning maybe a response . The news media argument is still going on about two hours of free time on the air every day, but joe bidens in his basement in wilmington. There is no counterprogramming to two hours of free media time every day. Thats exactly right. To answer your first question, there is absolutely no indication that the president plans to stop talking at these daily briefings anytime soon. Ive talked to a lot of people this week inside the white house and other people in the president s orbit who privately say, look, we actually dont think this is particularly helpful. We think its a missed opportunity for the president. He had an opportunity to cast himself as he tried to as a wartime president and instead he looks a bit petty and childish using these briefings to praise himself and to fight with the media. And you have this almost surreal double screen of the president comes on, the briefings take on the feeling of one of these keep America Great rallies that he so desperately misses and then sometimes he departs and a second sort of more factbased briefing begins led by Vice President pence and the Public Health officials. They dont necessarily like this, but they think its going to continue, although i will say there is right now an internal push to try to refocus the president , maybe even in a Different Forum on the economy. They think thats an area where he has a chance of shining. He has cast himself as a former wildly successful businessman. That ignores some of the bankruptcies. But they think hes stronger on the economy and they would rather have him weighing in on that part of the duality than the Public Health one. As for democratic response, its tricky. It is very hard for joe biden to break through. But one thing thats fascinating is both on the democratic side of people some of my colleagues are talking to and on the trump republican side theres an actual debate on if this is good or bad for biden. Some people say of course its bad for him because the president is dominating primetime and he cant break through. And other people say that joe bidens main problem is visibility and if he can sort of let the president potentially selfdestruct and then just emerge for the elections that could actually be an up side for a candidate like him. Its a real debate with no clear answers. Peter baker, in the meantime it looks like we have a whistleblower complaint and another one of those stories the president was not up on. Yeah, i would like to have heard him talk a little more about that even if he didnt know this person. You know, does he approve of the idea that a scientist who disagrees with him would be pushed out of his job . Thats at least the allegation on the surface. And it fits a pattern weve seen throughout this presidency in which expertise and people with jobs to do that involve speaking out of turn perhaps with the administrations preferred line find themselves, you know, punished in some way or another. Remember, of course, you know, the weather forecasters in alabama who said there wasnt going to be hurricane damaged in their state found themselves slapped publicly as a result. Youve seen the Inspector General whose job it is to point out wrongdoing by Government Agencies now fired or replaced by this president who didnt choose to, you know, heed their independence. You see it time and time again under this administration, a lack of interest in hearing voices that conflict with the president s. And thats why you saw that sort of ritual act today by dr. Redfield denying something he actually confirmed he said, which was i think a real tableau of this administrations policies. Hey, Michael Steele, i saved you either the best or worst for last, depending on how you view this. Here now something the president said out loud today. I saw a magnificent picture of dr. Martin luther king and i saw a magnificent picture of our event last year and both of them were maxed out. It was beautiful to see. Beautiful. Very similar. So Michael Steele, the president said that out loud today. Yeah, that happened. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Lets go with that. Why not . Of all the things that we need to be concerned about right now, crowd sizes right at the top of everyones bucket list to check off. Its consistent with where the president s head is in most of these rallies. I think ashley, again, touched very clearly on the point of how the president is looking at these events and what the expectation is of the central player, the president. It is about the narrative that he shapes every day for two hours uninterrupted. It is about how he is transfixing the conversation around what he sees and hears in his head. So when he sees a picture, someone shows him a picture, i dont know who would bring that picture into the oval office and say look, mr. President , your crowd size is as big as Martin Luther kings crowd size back in 1963. You just where does it come from . And at this stage i think we should be less concerned about that and more concerned about whether or not we are stemming the tide of deaths and infection rates in this country and that the leadership of the governors right now more than anything else matters, particularly as some governors are moving to open up their states. If the folks in georgia dont think that some fella out of North Carolina or some of other part of the region comes into their backyard carrying that virus is not a risk to them, get ready. Because thats going to be a new reality for them in 14 days. On that note our thanks to our friends. Peter baker, ashley parker, Michael Steele, for helping us kick off the broadcast tonight. Coming up for us an e. R. Doc who helped keep ebola from spreading in this country says testing is just one of the things weve got to master. Hell tell us about the others. And later, Michael Moore on the chaos management he sees in washington during this health care crisis. All of it as the 11th hour is just getting under way on a wednesday night. Across america, Business Owners are figuring things out. Finding new ways to serve customers. Connect employees. And work with partners. Comcast business is right there with you. With a network that helps give you speed, reliability and security. And enough bandwidth to handle all your connected devices. Voice Solutions Like remote Call Forwarding and readable voicemail. And safe, convenient installation. When every connection counts, you can count on us. Get the connectivity your business needs. Call today. Comcast business. The problem with the testing is, like i said, if we test if we tested 350 Million People youd say we want them to have a second test or a third test or a fourth test. Not everybody believes as strongly as some people on testing. Three months into this pandemic fewer than 2 of all of us americans have been tested for coronavirus. Medical experts say that number needs to be a lot higher before restrictions can be lifted. Theres a new report from npr that suggests one of the big name rapid covid19 tests, one the president is fond of talking about, may not be reliable, producing a false negative rate of 15 . With that we welcome to the broadcast dr. Mario ramirez. Hes an e. R. Doc currently treating covid19 patients. Also former acting director for the White House Office of pandemic and emerging threats, helping lead the Obama White House ebola response. So, doctor, this is the abbott quick turnaround test. Its received a lot of attention for good reason. But a 15 error rate, an 85 rate of correct results, seems to me thats high enough to throw out the whole sample. Am i wrong . Well, its a great question, brian. And theres a couple of things to put into context here. So its not surprising that there are some errors in the testing. We see this with any test we do in medicine. In fact, a lot of the test we go do is a matter of sort of balancing probabilities against patient histories and patient symptoms. What is concerning is that this was not sort of worked out before this test came to market. Now, this study that showed this 85 sensitivity rate was produced under certain conditions by the Cleveland Clinic and they compared five different tests under conditions where they were transporting the samples in something called viral media, which is essentially a solution that we use to transport samples that were going to test. Abbott has essentially said that that media should not be used and that when the samples are taken directly from the patient to the machine that the Machine Works as it should. But this i think is really where we get down to this question of theoretical testing and this sort of strategiclevel testing capability in this country of what that means at the tactical and implementation level. So what that means for patients on a daytoday basis, you know, is that if your test was only 85 sensitive, that might mean that as many as 15 out of 100 tests were wrong. So as we start to think about people going back into the workplace or going into sort of big public areas how confident can we be that those people around us have tests that are truly negative . And if we cant have that 100 certainty then that means we probably need to be testing people over and over and over again. And thats how we arrive at these numbers where some people say that we need between 5 to 10 and up to 20 million tests a week because we need to run those iterations over and over again because the true sort of accuracy of these tests in practice is much lower than it looks like from the manufacturer. If we need to do that kind of thing before we can think about freeing up parts of this country, thats one thing. Let me also ask you about this troubling socalled second wave prediction. Do you think its inevitable . Is it organic . Or is this part up to us depending on how we behave and react right now . So we know that coronaviruses and influenza viruses, although from different families of viruses, tend to behave similar in some ways. And we know that these viruses tend to decrease in frequency during the summer months. Thats probably linked to temperature, humidity. But anecdotally thats why we all get sick more often in the wintertime, because these viruses come back and last longer in the wintertime. Based on prior epidemics and prior pandemics, we have every reason to believe that this coronavirus should come back this wintertime. Now, the question that youre asking is whether the behavior that we take now affects what that second peak looks like. The behavior that were instituting now determines how big the peak is right now. But theres no reason that that second wave shouldnt necessarily come back. And the size of that wave is going to depend on how naive the population is to the virus when it comes back. Wow. Its not always pleasant, but we ask you for the answers and you deliver. Dr. Mario ramirez, thank you for coming on. Wed like to call upon your wisdom and guidance again if we can. Coming up for us, Michael Moore is here to talk about the new push in his home state and beyond to whip off the mask, get out of the house, go to work. 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Virginia is after all one of the states the president urged to liberate over twitter. Meanwhile, new polling from the a. P. Shows 61 of us feel steps taken by the government to prevent infections are about right. We are pleased to welcome back a proud michigander, movie maker, muckraker, also happens to be the host of the podcast rumble with Michael Moore. And Michael Moore has been able to join us tonight. Michael, stephen moore, no relation, the economist, compared these protesters out there right now to rosa parks. First of all, can we please stop with the rosa parks and mlk comparisons . But, secondly, whats your feel for this movement . With the given that everyone would like to get back out there and everyone would like to return to work. Yes, everyone would like to get back to some of the things that we were doing. The protesters, though, thats not really whats going on there. These are essentially mini trump rallies, protrump people. Theyre funded by trump backers. I think you had that on your evening news tonight in terms of the people, especially one very wealthy person in wisconsin whos been backing these demonstrations. The idea when trump tweeted that about liberate michigan, those are the only words, liberate michigan, i thought, well, actually, yeah, were planning to do that on november 3rd this year. So, good idea. We were a state that voted for trump. So a lot of us are very busy trying to make sure that that doesnt happen again. Lets talk about michigan and what happens when a pandemic hits a state that already has a rough economy. Well, needless to say, things are not good. And especially in detroit, in the detroit area, especially in the parts of michigan that are majority africanamerican, this has hit people there very hard. And its been interesting to see the disparity in different parts of the state in terms of income and race. You know, michigan has just had the crap kicked out of it now for a number of decades. I understand why some people dont really believe when things are being told because theyve been told so much for so long. Nonetheless, its been very disheartening to see on that chart that you have up in your upper righthand corner of the screen that shows in this last week michigan being near the top. Many days after new york and new jersey, which by the way, in michigan we consider that one area, new york and new jersey. No offense to the people from new jersey. But michigans been number 3. More than california, brian. More deaths. And now, you know, california, michigan, illinois, pennsylvania are all kind of clumped the same. But as you pointed out many times, these arent just numbers were talking about. These are human beings that did not need to lose their lives. And i think you and others have done a good job of telling the story about how this could have been prevented. Not the disease, not the virus. The virus was exists. Weve always had viruses. Weve always had to fight them. But we could have gotten if weve gotten just a quicker jump on it, if the president hadnt called it a hoax, hadnt fought the reality of it. And still today, brian, still today getting rid of the top person in charge of vaccines because that person didnt offer enough praise to caesar. Its what does he think hes doing . This guy is we used to say this guys going to get us killed. Actually, it wasnt just a joke. This guy is getting us killed. And people are not going to forget this at election time. The majority of the people. Are not going to forget this. People have lost loved ones. People who are sick right now who are watching this. This will not be forgotten. And what is ahead of us for the second wave, the second wave thats going to come with the flu . And he gets angry at the cdc head that tells us the truth. We need the truth. We need total transparency. Dont sugarcoat it for us. Its you know, im stuck in new york. Ive been in my own selfquarantine now for this is day 43. And i was debating whether or not should i go back home to michigan just before i did this. Am i better off in new york or in michigan . Of course this was before new york started recording horrific number of cases and deaths. I saw you one of the last days i saw you on one of the last days we were free to move around new york city and our office building. We already as i remember werent shaking hands. Lets pause here. Michael moores going to stay with us. Coming up, just in time for the 50th anniversary of earth day, michael has released a new documentary on the environment. He along with the director will tell us all about it when we come back. My roadtrip companion. Its kind of my quiet, alone time. Audible is a routine for me. Its like a fun night school for adults. I could easily be seduced into locking myself into a place where i do nothing but listen to books. 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Yesterday filmmaker Michael Moore along with director and environmentalist jeff gibbs released planet of the humans, a documentary that takes a look at the beginnings of the Environmental Movement over 50 years ago and also examines shortcomings with things like solar and wind energy. It was becoming clear that what we had been calling green, Renewable Energy and industrial civilization are one and the same. Desperate measures not to save the planet, but to save our way of life. Desperate measures rather than face the reality, humans are experiencing the planets limits all at once. Remaining with us is the executive producer of the film, one Michael Moore, and joining our conversation is the aforementioned jeff gibbs, director of planet of the humans. Jeff, i was a white house intern in 1979, and when i first heard about geothermal and wind and solar i thought az young man, well, certainly this will be our future. It has faced such an uncertain path. You were a believer going into this. Tell us about the shortcomings you felt forced to come to grips with in the film. Well, i think long ago when we first thought about solar there were all kinds of solar. There was solar hot water heaters. There was solar you could build a solar house that faced the sun. And then there was solar panels. And over time i slowly discovered that these solar panels are made with you cant have these without industrial civilization so theres fossil fuels involved. Theres rare earths involved. Theres mining and smelting that occurs all over the world. Electric cars, you know, have cobalt. Lithium. And so the idea that we were going to save the world through technology began to seem just an impossibility. And especially not just putting a solar panel on your roof, but plastering it over thousands of square miles. And at the same time i realized the problem were facing is a lot bigger than just Climate Change. The bees are dying back. Weve taken all the fish from the ocean. Most of the fish. Topsoils running into the sea. I just began to wonder why are we going down this road of kind of worshiping Green Technology when it seems like its not what its cracked up to be and there are so many more things to deal with than Climate Change alone. Michael moore, as a political and journalism issue, when does Climate Change come roaring back to the front page and the very top of the newscast . Thats a good question. I do think that a lot of people who now, especially the people who are sitting at home, have had time to think about a lot of things, whether its our broken Health Care System or any of the other things i think we want to address. And im one of those people that do not want to go back to quote normal. I do not want the old normal. I want us to reinvent some things here. And one of those things has to be how were dealing with our environmental emergency. And the road weve been going down, brian, lets just admit it. Its been 50 days 50 years today since the first earth day. Is the earth better off after these 50 years . No. Were worse off. We are so close now. The amount of carbon thats in the atmosphere, all the other things we were warned about where if we go past a certain limit were going to be in serious trouble. Well, were already past those limits. Were in serious trouble. And we need we almost need a new Environmental Movement. Thats why ive been so inspired by greta and a lot of the young people in this last year because the baby boomers and the other generations thats have handed this earth to the Younger Generation, the Younger Generation knows theyve been handed a choking planet and theyre going to have to figure this out. But we cant just let them like here, go figure it out. Weve got to help them do this. And weve got to get weve got to wrestle this away from so much of Corporate America now and wall street, goldman sachs. Theyre all tied in now to the green energy movement. They all profess to be green. And while theyre doing sometimes some good things, theres too much profit motive involved in this right now and we need to think whats best for the planet, not whats going to be best for business. And thats a bitter pill for some people to swallow. I know we want to feel good about all the things we all do environmentally. I love it when i see during whatever that month is that msnbc, the whole logos all green and i know the commitment on the part of your company to this issue because its not a partisan issue. This planet belongs to all of us. But theres so much more to do. And weve got to come out of this pandemic on the other end of this and weve got to say, you know, one of the reasons we were just in this pandemic was because nature was reacting to something that we had been doing to this planet. This virus didnt just come out of nowhere. It happened because of the way that weve been treating other species and how it made its way from these species to us. We need to really examine this. Frankly i think Mother Nature has put us in its timeout room right now, literally, not just figuratively. So we may have some time to think about how were treating this planet. But weve got to change. We have got to change and we need a revitalized new Environmental Movement amongst people who have not been involved in the Environmental Movement before but who just want this planet to survive, who want to leave their grandchildren with something better. The two wingmen of this new documentary. Jeff, i know you want people to watch, and i trust you leave people with hope by the time we reach the end. Michael moore, our thanks to you as well. Thank you. Your national map, while modest, is a bit of a tip of the hat to the old newscasts we grew up watching. Gentlemen, thanks, both of you. Coming up, what our doctors and nurses on the front lines of this thing were watching think about themselves once their shifts come to an end. So whats going on . Im a talking dog. The other issue. Oh. Im scratching like crazy. Youve got some allergic itch with skin inflammation. Apoquel can work on that itch in as little as 4 hours, whether its a new or chronic problem. And apoquels treated over 7 million dogs. Nice. And. The talking dog thing . Is it bothering you . No. Itching like a dog is bothering me. Until dogs can speak for themselves, you have to. When allergic itch is a problem, ask for apoquel. 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As you know, weve been trying to check in regularly with the folks working in health care who right now happen to be deeply concerned about what could happen if our country reopens too quickly. Here is what one trauma surgeon in miami told nbc news correspondent Gabe Gutierrez about the mental toll this pandemic continues to take. Its hard not to take your work home with you. I sit at home reliving each death, each delay in my head. The statistics tell me that this persons father probably wouldnt have made it no matter what i did. But my heart cant help it. Maybe if i started another medication instead of the one i did. Maybe if i stayed up one more hour researching the next best treatment for coronavirus. Maybe he would have made it. Maybe if i had been better i wouldnt be standing outside telling a sobbing family that weve lost their loved one. Its hard not to take every death personally. As a sign of your failure. Can you imagine . Hopefully, life is long enough to find each and every one of these doctors and nurses to thank them for what they have been doing. Some of what correspondent Gabe Gutierrez has been hearing on the front lines. Another break for us. And coming up, the newest arrival at the white house to mark a big anniversary. There they are. Last thing before we go tonight, what happens when four people have to split two shovels between them . Well, if its the trumps and the pences, the answer is the madcap excruciatingly physical ballet we witnessed on the white house grounds just today. Mike pence reached over and was able to be a big helper with the shovel. Lets forget social distancing for the moment, of course. No masks, no worries. On the up side we got to see the first ladys first public appearance since march the 10th. The event was a Tree Planting to commemorate the 50th anniversary of earth day. And let me tell you, as a former 10yearold in mr. Stimpsons class at Middletown Village School in new jersey, that first earth day was a big deal. We all made posters and had an outdoor assembly. Todays Tree Planting was decidedly lowkey, however, and we should probably take this opportunity to send that tree our very best wishes for a green future. Because its not easy out there for trees these days. The New York Times outlines 95 environmental rollbacks by this administration, 58 of which have been completed, 25 of them having to do with just the category of air pollution and emissions. And as the guardian put it today, the number and speed of these repeals puts us in uncharted territory. We cannot allow 50 years of hardwon environmental progress to be reversed in just four years. The repeal of air quality rules has increased respiratory illnesses and Heart Disease and is accelerating the effects of Climate Change. So, to the newest tree on the historic white house south grounds, good luck. Were all counting on you. Thats our broadcast for this wednesday night. On behalf of all of my colleagues at the networks of nbc news, good night from our temporary field headquarters. Good morning, everybody. It is thursday, april 23rd. It was another day of mixed messaging from the trump administration. The president made several claims that were immediately refuted by the doctors around him. He tried to coax them several times into saying the virus may not return. In another turn, the president