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Brian Williams examines the days top political stories and current politicalcampaign news. Brian Williams examines the days top political stories and current politicalcampaign news. No comment on cohen who was released on 500,000 bail. His sentencing, interestingly, is scheduled for december 12th. The judge noted that cohen could serve up to 65 years in prison, though we should hasten to add the prosecutess recommended sentence is something closer to four or six years. Manafort is expected to be sentenced to seven to nine years when its all said and done. He also faces another trial on related charges next month in washington. Meanwhile, both men now join rick gates, michael flynn, George Papadopoulos on the roster of Trump Associates who faced criminal charges. On that, let us bring in our expanded leadoff panel for a consequential tuesday evening. Nicolle wallace returned to the night shift. The veteran of the Bush White House and host of deadline white house. And here in new york michael before the 4 00 hour. He said if the president is handing out one pardon today, its going to Paul Manafort. Not Michael Cohen. Theres a sense if someone does anything out of the desire to sort of savage any dignity or anything for their family, that they betrayed him. The idea of loyalty and carnage sort of collided after i got off the air today and sort of looked at the wreckage in the lives of these people that went into business with the president committing crimes, perhaps at his behest. You see ongoing pile ups in the lives of everyone associated with this president. Emily jane fox, you have spoken to Michael Cohen in the hours since his appearance in federal court. Tell us about the conversation. This was an emotional day for Michael Cohen. Mostly because of what his family witnessed and i think that was difficulty. I wasnt in the courtroom today listened to him go count by count and not only admit he was guilty to those, but really describing detail why he was guilty of those crimes. So watched him get emotional and describing that and then this evening when i spoke with him emotional talking about the toll this took on his family, something he stressed to me over and over again, though, was how well he felt like he was treated by Law Enforcement and by prosecutors. And that was an Important Message he wanted to get across. That was something he said in the initial raid of his home, hotel room, and office. And that is, in a way, another contrast with his former boss. Someone who attacked Law Enforcement over and over again on twitter and in his speeches. So this is just another sticking point. Even at this emotional loaded moment in his life. He was trying to plant a flag and say im not like this guy and im not going to be like him going forward. Let me ask you about his family and correct any of this i have wrong. Two daughters, both under 25, his wife born in ukraine, is kind of a dual role as book keeper for his legal concern and having read that, it made me wonder were the feds going to dangle that in front of cohen if she cosigned agreements or checks. If they were going to perhaps say you wouldnt want to see your wife go in the federal slammer. Did she have any cupability. Ill correct you he has a daughter and a son. Forgive me. Thats it. The rest i think youre spot on. I think thats a very important point. This is very closeknit marriage. They are people who are very involved in their businesses. The New York Times reported over the weekend shes someone Who Cosigned Loan documents and from all i know in my year of Close Reporting on Michael Cohen, he would do anything to save his family from any trouble, any pain, any hardship. If his wife were, in fact, in any kind of trouble, that would be a reason for him to take action to stand up and do something. Artfully answered and thanks. Michael, all the smart reporters in the business, everything weve seen come and go. Every one weve seen come and go. The folks who knew the Name Of The Game kept saying cohen is the one. Cohen is the one that could do the most damage here. Cohen is the one to concentrate on. You were among them. Is this kind of what you were talking about . Go back to the spring, the raid happens and the president s lawyers say, okay, its a new front in our legal wars. We know the extent of the Mueller Investigation, at least they thought they did. We understand the questions of collusion around the president. We understand obstruction. We have no idea what went on between the president and Michael Cohen. We dont think were getting truthful answers from the president about it. We do not understand the extent of his criminal exposure, and that is incredibly scary. Up until today, i still do not think they appreciated just the gravity that this was going to have on the president. And im not sure what they can do at this point. I dont know how they get themselves out of this situation. And thats just one part of the fight. We still havent seen what mueller is going to do. Thats exactly right. Daniel, please help us lay people out. Describe the agreement agreed to today. What is in it . Whats not . Does this constitute the quick and easy phrase of flipping. Did Michael Cohen flip today . If not, how shy of that is he . Well, the big surprise here is that he did not flip. This is not a Cooperation Agreement. This is a standard Plea Agreement where Michael Cohen went into court, as we all saw and witnessed, and admitted to committing eight crimes. He did not agree to cooperate with the government in any meaningful way including testifying down the road. And the government did not agree to write a letter to reduce his sentence, which is the benefit that he would have gotten. This is very surprising to me as a former assistant in that office because all indication is that Michael Cohen is not only willing but desperate to cooperate. So i, frankly, do not understand exactly what is going on because it does seem based on his allocution in court today where he volunteered, by the way, when he pointed at the president , that was unnecessary. That was something he did not need to say in order to fulfill his obligation to al cute to the judge. Its not in the information. Its something he added himself to essentially make the president an unindicted coconspirator. He clearly wants to cooperate but this is not a Cooperation Agreement. I center to say, he has lanny davis appearing on this network and cnn Tonight Capabilitying theres indicating theres stories to tell. Including but not limited to advanced knowledge of russian hacking. Its almost if theyre begging to have a meeting with president ers. As a former prosecute we are im sure chuck will say the same, we will offer the meeting any day of the week. Its surprising given the foreshadowing that lady davis is making. Given what he said in court today. Thats enough to pique the prosecutors interest. It piques our interest. The only other explanation the prosecutor dont feel theyve told him the truth. I adopt think theres been enough time they could have been meeting over the past couple of weeks and for the prosecutors to believe hes not truthful. So the final conclusion, the only thing that makes any sense to me is that this is a marker. This is a place holder before labor day, before we get into election season. So they dont disrupt anything and cant be accused of disrupting anything related to the election. Have him plead guilty to what we know hes under investigation for, and then theyll sort of begin the cooperation process, which requires many, many meetings between cohen and the prosecutors and investigators. Chuck, it comes down to you. In the moment as it was happening today, i heard several good legal minds. Open the door and toss out the phrase unindicted coconspirator it had me flashing back to 1974 and 75. Is it a term of art in the law . Can it be applied to one donald trump after a day like today . It is a term of art and the law, brian. I think it can be applied to the president of the United States as of today. Weve thrown it around before but today we had someone stand up in court under oath, by the way, it wasnt just any someone. It was the president s personal lawyer who said i was directed to do this by donald trump. Its a remarkable thing. Daniel is right. Cohen did not need to go there. He did. One other point i would like to amplify. Like daniel, im a bit confused why theres no Cooperation Language in this agreement, but nothing in the agreement precludes him from accommodating down the road. And so it may well be a marker. The cooperation may follow. It certainly seems like mr. Cohen and his team are foreshadowing that. And if hes truthful and helpful, im certain the government will be interested. Nicole, here is the big question. The rest was all wind up. What did today do to the trajectory of this presidency that you and i talk about for a living. Where are we headed now . Its shattered. The narrative that the investigation of this president is a witch hunt. I mean, the witches all had, you know, Keys To The Kingdom and these were all people that were doing Donald Trumps bidding. So the idea that he can spear the investigation that will follow to the Southern District of new york which had nothing to do with what the target that donald trump attacked on a daily basis, i think its a bridge too far. I think this might be the day. If we look back and theyre whipping the votes in the senate to see if the Impeachment Vote in the house, if they have enough votes to convict him. Theyll look back on this day as one of the days that began to erode that lock they have on the republican base. Republicans have been pathetic. Theyve been pathetic during the campaign and during the presidency. But you cant sustain too many days where the president s former fixer lawyer stands up in court and said i committed crimes at the request of the president. And look the other way. They did it after that Access Hollywood tape. Theyve done it after every sort of these are serious crimes being charged of the people that were closest to this president. Michael schmidt, i dont know that anyone at the New York Times has assigned the side bar. I suppose its plausible that today was the day on two fronts when the good guys, meaning men and women woman. In northern virginia, a jury of Paul Manaforts peers acquitted themselves well and put in a lot of effort in that case. And in new york, we got to work watch the Career Publicer is vanlts of the Southern District of new york. One of them actually called cohen out as a fellow lawyer. As someone who had disregarded his training and tradition. But to a lot of people watching, it felt like a recentering today. Part of this story we dont know the answer to. And that is why did Rod Rosenstein have the Cohen Investigation moved to the Southern District . Because what it did was it took the issue of a witch hunt sort of away from mueller on that day. He gave it to these Career Prosecutors here. They walk into court today. They get this plea and they walk out. Its not bob mueller. Its not the 17 angry democrats. Its a bench of welleducated assistant United States attorneys that have done this. That protects the integrity certainly from a political perspective. The president cannot as easily stand up tomorrow and say look at what bob mueller has done. This is not bob mueller. Thats a great point. Our guests have agreed to stick around while we fit in a quick break. When we come back, how today fits and what it tells us about that point. The larger Mueller Investigation. And, later, bad news for another Senior Member of the trump team. It has to do with a house guest of his and another republican member of the house indicted. The news watch never stops, as they say on a new york radio station, were here to cover it all The 11th Hour just Getting Started on a tuesday night. With the new Chase Ink Business unlimited card i get unlimited 1. 5 cash back. Its so simple, i dont even have to think about it. So i think about mouthfeel. Introducing Chase Ink Business unlimited with unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase. Let someone else do the heavy lifting. 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As we have reported, President Trumps long time personal attorney Michael Cohen turned himself over to the fbi today and pleaded guilty to a number of felony charges, including breaking campaign finance laws. The man who once said he would take a bullet for donald trump admitted he arranged payments for two women at the direction of the candidate, referring to trump with the purpose of affecting the election. Right now its not totally clear what this news means for muellers overall russia investigation, but Harvard Law Professor wrote on twitter about something weve been discussing. Quote, no way cohen would have entered guilty pleas to eight Felony Counts in new york city today without either a sealed Cooperation Agreement or a con confidential understanding with mueller, which the Plea Agreement in the Southern District of new york expressly left open. So he still has Key Information on trump to share. No mention of Michael Cohen or Paul Manafort tonight at the president s rally in west virginia. He briefly brought up the whole russia thing. Fake news and the russian witch hunt. We got a whole big where is the collusion . You know, theyre still looking for collusion. Where is the collusion . Find some collusion we want to find the collusion. The panel remains with us. Chuck, talk about Robert Mueller. Talk about what quarter we may be in of this investigation. I guess the motto there continues to be steady as you go. Steady as you go. Every time you ask me a bob mueller question, brian, i Say Something like steady as you go. Were not in the First Quarter anymore. I know that. I dont think were in the Fourth Quarter either. Theres two other quarters. But my sense is that theres a lot more work to be done. By the way, i dont think i agree with the professor. But Plea Agreements in the federal system have to be the entire agreement. There can be no Side Agreements. Let me make that clear in court and writing. And so i still believe that mr. Cohen may cooperate, at some point, and im sure mueller would want it. Of course, he would, if its truthful and helpful. But i dont believe there are Side Agreements here. Somebody who would know more about that practice in the Southern District of new york than me would be dan goldman. But i suspect that mr. Tribe may be wrong about that point. And, dan, when you hear the president on the no collusion front, weve just emerged from a 24hour period with a lot of discussion about the email setting up the meeting at trump tower because of the intense russian government interest in seeing donald trump elected. Is that ball game for you right there . Its not ball game, but it is a strong indication that there was an appetite, a willingness, an intent to engage with russia in order to allow the russians to interfere with our election, which is a crime. It gets us part of the way but it doesnt get us all the way. So, you know, collusion, of course, is colloquial. I dont think that itself would be grounds for a Conspiracy Charge, which is how bob mueller would charge it, but it gets it part of the way. When you start to add up the different data points, the july 27th date, when trump asks russia to find Hillary Clintons emails. Then an indictment from bob mueller that said on that date, they went phishing for emails. It starts to make a little bit more sense. Now you have lanny davis who goes onair tonight on Rachel Maddows show and said that Michael Cohen might have information that donald trump knew about the hacking before it was released. Were starting to get closer and closer and closer, and remember bob mueller speaks in indictments. He speaks in thorough, detailed, complicated, and sophisticate the indictments. He doesnt speak in the media all this talk about no collusion can be just literally knocked out of the air with one major indictment. Nicole, thats a great point. The one person in all this mess we havent heard a peep from and never will until its time is bob mueller. Do you think shares this view of labor day being the start of a forced national rest period where he must put all pencils down . I was warned by someone who worked closely alongside bob mueller for close to a decade not to accept any sort of analysis of what bob mueller is going to do. This person said bob mueller wouldnt tell his dying mother if he was going to indict or not indict. If he was going to charge or not charge. If he was going to follow doj policy on this or that. It is a known unknown what bob mueller is thinking and what hes going to do. That said, i think that you look at the Mueller Investigation and you look at the helsenke moment. People said an obstruction, hes sloppy, messy and your entire body of reporting. He peppers people with questions. You know, we know don mccann spent 30 hours talking to him. Theyve been worried about obstruction. They call mueller a prosecutorial asinsassin. But after helsenke they concerned about the Conspiracy Charge that he may be vulnerable there, too. Today theyre looking at the news and the people closest to the president said he could be in a lot of trouble. I think were talking about the republicans at the beginning. That is what will begin to sort of, i think, begin to dismantle this. Its mind blowing to people from the outside or people that worked in republican politics before. There was never a question whether bush or cheney obstructed justice. Donald trump is the target of these investigation the. Hes been held up by the ridiculous fear grip that republicans feel from him. But i think will look back today may be the day that people start to wonder if he isnt in more trouble than we understand. Mike schmidt, our friend chuck will tell you that mueller prefers meetings standing up in his office because it keeps your energy up and its more efficient. Ironically asks coworkers and associates every day what they have done for their country at work. Sometimes prior to 6 00 a. M. It has always been difficult to imagine a room with mueller and trump in it. Have the chances of that rumored mythical sit down, lets say dimmed, a little bit further today . Well, i cant imagine they got any better. But im not sure they were in that good of a place to start. Ive been reporting on this interview for almost eight months now and the president s lawyers have continually said theyre just a few weeks away from making a decision. And i fell for that along the way at different points. Were still here. Now coming into september. Rudy said that they cant do an interview in september or october too close to the election. Comey territory, as he calms calls it. Referring back to the 2016 election. So the opening for that, i cant imagine is there. By the way, im told rudy is in scotland on vacation. That may Say Something or nothing at all. We have been lead to believe that this dance has been going on between cohen and the Southern District of new york. Here is what i have to share. Here is what we may have for you. Here is how we can reduce your sentence. I kind of see you in the chevrolet, that kind of thing going back and forth. Then we kind of learned today that this was a very fast dance of 24 to 48 hours. This just came together. What can you confirm or deny based on your reporting . So my reporting i reported this in vanity fair this evening is yes there have been overtures to the prosecution from cohens lawyers over the last several weeks saying, hey, were here. We can talk if you want to talk. But a real attempt in earnest with the two of them to sit down didnt come until last week. They came, called, and said you have a limited amount of time to tell us what you want to tell us. So the end of last week, through the weekend and the beginning of this week was impressionable for cohens side. Cohen went into the week fully expecting to be arrested. He spent the weekend assuming that he would be arrested early this week. So that is where talks were over the weekend. Now, people who are close cohen clammed up over the last couple of days and went silent. That, to me, was an indication that things were getting serious. That discussions were going to a new place. But this is a very quick process, which leads me to believe there may be more to the process. It was important to avoid the shot of being walked in handcuffs. So thus the surrender to the fbi. Correct. This was something he did not want his children to see. He didnt want his kids to see him doing a pepprp walk. The fact he was able to surrender on his own terms today was important to him. Something he had been thinking about, talking about, telling friends about since last week. Since prosecutors began talking with his attorney. On this note, our thanks. I cant thank you enough for joining us and starting off our conversation. Coming up for us this evening, manaforts Attorney Says theyre evaluating all options. Then comes their next trial. Well break down what that could mean for donald trump when The 11th Hour continues. But i am a. My life is here. [telephone ring] ahoyhoy. Alexander graham bell here. No, no, my number is one, you must want two two, i say like my father before. [telephone ring] like my father before. Ahoyhoy as long as people talk too loudly on the phone, you can count on geico saving folks money. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. At your local mercedesbenz dealer. Mercedesbenz. The best or nothing. Mr. MaPaul Manafort is disappointed. Hes evaluating all of his options, at this point. Thank you, everyone. That was Paul Manaforts attorney just moments after his client learned he could be facing decades behind bars. Manaforts convictions carry a maximum of 80 years. Thats just so far, remember. Not counting his second trial in d. C. Next month for Money Laundering and illegal foreign lobbying. He could still decide to cooperate with mueller or, as politico puts it tonight youll note as of tonight, trump repeats calling manafort a good man. Well, with us to talk about this is josh gearstein. Because we extorted him with payments wired to an overseas bank, weve got Daniel Goldman to agree after a long day to spend even more time with us. Thank you so much. Josh, youve covered every day of this. Was this the definition of ending with a whimper and not a bang . It did seem to be. I mean, i think everybody was eager to get the trial over with after four days of deliberations and into its fourth week. I got the sense from both sides they were a bit weary of the situation. We did get an indication from notes from the jury one note in particular today that they were struggling. Initially people thought it was one count. They were struggling with. It turned out what the jury was trying to say they wanted to know what the process was if they couldnt come to a vikt. It turned out that on ten of the 18 counts against manafort, they were deadlocked. We dont know by a what margin. We just dont know that at this point. But it did Kind Of Go Out with a whimper. I must say if youre the defendant to hear yourself pronounced guilty on eight Felony Counts in federal courtroom, its not a good day for you. And i saw Paul Manafort swallow pretty hard when the first guilty verdict on the first tax charge came in. After that he pretty much just froze. Yeah. A moment none of us want to experience firsthand. Daniel, now, as an exfed, center us up as the way they see this in washington. If youre muellers office, is a win a win . Yes. Very simply yes. And particularly a win in a convictions on all three trenches of charges. And you put it up there. The five tax charges. Subsequently, Michael Cohens eight counts. The first five were tax charges, as well. In Paul Manaforts case he was convicted of five tax charges and theres one failure to report the Foreign Bank Accounts and two bank fraud charges. Thats helpful to the prosecution because theyll argue at sentencing he should be sentenced on all of the conduct in the indictment even on the charges that were deadlocked by the jury. And so and the judge can find that by a preponderance of the evidence. As a prosecutor, you look for a conviction. You obviously want to sweep. Im sure they would have preferred all 18 counts. To get convictions even when you have some of the counts home is still absolutely a victory, i would say. Its not a resounding or overwhelming victory, but its a strong victory and right now you saw Kevin Downing and his face, which was a very different look than hes had for the last week and a half or so. And im sure the prosecutions side they are relieved and happy. Josh, when the judges peers go over the transcripts within even if we never hear a word about it in the future, do you think it will be found by rational people he hurt the prosecution . I think so. I think there were a few different incidents he seemed to undercut their case. He took a shot in court, it seemed like, at the prosecutors star witness in the case, rick gates. There was another time he suggested one of the counts that manafort was not convicted on today that there was a hung jury because it was an attempted bank fraud. It wasnt very significant and maybe the prosecution shouldnt be pursuing it. Again, would be unusual comments for a judge to make outside the presence of a jury. I think inside with the presence of a jury in the courtroom, very unusual. And probably over the line. That said, mistakes that hurt the prosecution, as weve discussed before, brian, theres no recourse for those. There is no appeal and i dont think these are so extraordinary that judge ellis is going to face any kind of actual incrimination for. Thanks to both of these gentlemen who have been up early covering this trial every day for us. Our thanks to you. Coming up, the New York Times Editorial Board puts it this way. For a witch hunt, mr. Muellers investigation bagged a remarkable number of witches. So you have, your headphones, chair, new laptop, 24 7 tech support. Yep, thanks guys. I think he might need some support. Yes. Start them off right, with the School Supplies they need at low prices all summer long. Like these for only 2 or less at office depot officemax. Mom okay we need to get all your School Supplies today. School. Grade. Done. Done. Hit the Snooze Button and get low prices on School Supplies all summer long. Like these for only 2 or less at office depot officemax. Now i know youre thinking, i dont want to hear about insurance. 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Gentlemen, thank you. Have we not arranged for you to come on, we would be scrambling to ask you to come on. Bad day for donald trump. I think, at the end of it, a bad day for our country, too. I guess, you know, i mean, you dont like to see the president s a situation where the Campaign Chairman and personal lawyer have plead guilty or been found guilty of felony crimes. Its pretty astounding. How do you think it has changed the trajectory of what were looking at . What do you think were looking at . I think its a reminder that Robert Mueller knows a lot. Think about the implications of the matter for trial coming up. What manafort, if he chooses to cooperate, could talk about. And cohen, especially. He may not be cooperating yet but if he chooses to cooperate, the amount he would know about not just the particular crimes, which he plead guilty and seems to be i implicated president trump in but as lanny davis, the other things that cohen could talk about. Daytoday stuff. I think it will get to russia. Any pro trump talking voice tonight theyve been well, where is russia . Its not collusion in russia. Lets see how long it lasts. You gaieugene, you have a co that can turn a phrase. His name is dan balls and i quote no day during President Trumps 19 months in office could prove as dangerous or data habilitating as tuesday. This was a day when truth overran tweets when facts overwhelm bald assertions. President ial tweets, however provocative, eventually disappear into the ether. Tuesdays convictions could send two people close with President Trump to prison for several years. One brought the investigation to the door of the white house. I concur. I was here during the 4 00 hour with nicolle today. Present at the creation. He woo felt like we were on the wrong end of an Artillery Barrage of news with a few hours to think about it, two things come to mind aside from the fact that can is a master at framing the big picture. Number one, Rudy Giuliani was wrong on sunday at least as far as the u. S. Justice system is concerned. Truth is truth. Yeah. And thats what our Justice System is designed to find. Russians were coming to trump tower. Thats kind of comforting. Thats a good thing for america i think that that still functions. The other thing is, so youve got cohen, manafort, you had flynn, gates. These characters around donald trump, you get the portrait, this sort of Pointistic Portrait Of Seediness and crooked dealings and underhanded shenanigans an unbecoming the leader of a great country. This is not a surprise about donald trump. But it just becomes much more vivid i think and today was a particularly vivid day with cohen saying, the president now president of the United States directed me to commit a felony. To pick up on that point, we went today from unbecoming sleazy very problematic conduct that a lot of us deplored to two guilty pleas with two or three or more Close Associates of the president now cooperating with the Justice Department which incidentally both on the Special Counsel side and the Southern District of new york decide which had been coordinated which means the whole Justice Department is now pursuing this investigation in a very serious way. I think rosenstein may turn out to be a very interesting character that hes been we know muellers a black box. Rosen tines decision to give the Cohen Investigation to the Southern District of new york so it could go on its own track, the dog to which there may have been an attempt to coordinating the timing. I was struck that cohen wasnt really approached about a deal till maybe ten days ago and then about a plea and then they put pressure on him. I wonder how much rosenstein wanted to try to maximize the impact by thinking these two together as much as he could with the manafort Trial Copping to an end and turning out to have a guilty verdict. You do have a kind of its a serious investigation. I very much agree. This is the Justice Department being curious about discovering the break. Just to continue our conversation on the other side, both gentlemen will stay with us. What might sildren. Like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. Babies too young to be vaccinated against Whooping Cough are the most at risk for severe illness. Help prevent this talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against Whooping Cough. [ horn honking ] [ Engine Revving ] whats that, girl . [ Engine Revving ] flo needs help . [ Engine Revving ] take me to her coming, flo why arent we taking roads . flo. [ horn honking ] oh. You made it. Do you have change for a dollar . This was the emergency . 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I do think in either a republican primary. 2020 against donald trump or maybe a republican open field if trumps no longer president , the market for a serious reformer who says you know what, i understand why some people went for trump. They wanted change but he unfortunately made it worse. We really need to fundamentally reform the ways of washington in serious ways not in demagoguic ways. There will be a big market for that. People are trying to be that market now. Elizabeth warren is now the with a new pitch along those lines and democrats are going to pick that up. At your paper, another writer we should talk about, robert costa. He can turn a phrase, as well. Hes got a story tonight that larry kudlow has invited i guess on more than one occasion a White Nationalist to a Birthday Party at his home. Who among us hasnt had a White Nationalist to a dinner party at our house. Just kidding. What are we to take of where are all these White Nationalists coming from . Where do they come from and why are they on everybodys social calendar now. I dont understand it. How do you it more than once. But in this case, he was a respectable National Review conservative, who has gradually slid off the deep end. I guess he knew larry kudlow from years ago, lived near each other in connecticut and its a social thing. Its indicative of something that happened to parts of the conservative movement. There were people of it and a little bit maybe on the fringe of it. And who really ended up in a pretty unattractive place. The left has its version, as well. And both parties have dealt with it, and its the folks who deal with It Forthrightly and call it for what it is, and i guess we should learn about a lesson who we invite over to the house. Yeah. Especially the white nationalists. Cross them off when you see them. Lonnie lets go over the list one more time. Gentlemen, i cant thank you enough. Its been one of those days in our country and in this ongoing story in the short history of this broadcast. Eugene and bill, thank you. Thanks. Thank you. With that, that is our broadcast as we say for the aforementioned busy tuesday night. Our thanks to all of you for being with us. And good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. I will say that the luckiest man in the news today is congressman duncan hunter

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