Day 20. Robert mueller the latest shakeup in the white house it has been expected for some time. You may recall wallis reported earlier that the president was preparing to replace mcmaster as early as the end of this month. There have been multiple reports that the National Security adviser and the president have not seen eye to eye. The Washington Post writes trump is now comfortable with ousting mcmaster with whom he never personally gelled but is willing to because he wants to make sure the three Star Army General is not humiliated and there is a strong successor lined up. It is part of after broader potential shake up that is likely to include officials at the white house. Tonight white house adviser addressed the shakeups in the administration. People say i see chaos. A lot of us see streamlines of some parts and sophistication because we had too many people over time. We had too many of the wrong people. Just a short time ago Sarah Huckabee sanders pushed back sending this out via twitter. Just spoke to potus and h. R. Mcmaster, they have a good working relationship and there are no changes. Look at that wording. Are no changes. We should quickly add the washingt Washington Post has joined the reporting of the wall street journal has joined the Washington Post that mcmaster is likely out. President trump has been down playing the chaos inside the white house. There are reports Veterans Affair secretary could be next. His job has been in question since it came to light. He used a trip to europe with his wife. Among the names being mentioned as possible replacements fox and friends according to the Washington Postis is a trump confidant. Trump reportedly called last week on speakerphone for policy advice. He is a veteran but has no prior government experience and the v. A. Is a massive bureaucracy. The mood inside the white house in recresent days as trump keep his own council to determine between rumor and truth. At times they say they are anxious and nervous, wondering what each new head its line may mean for them personally. We are peter baker for New York Times and anita. All right. Phillip, we owe it to you having just heard en and i highlight the active wording. That is the white house pushback. It is 11 04 and change eastern time. We have to say this because things change quickly around here. Whats your reporting at this hour . They do change very quickly, brian. We standby our reporting that the president made a decision he want to remove h. R. Mcmaster. Figures out how to execute this decision which is to try to preserve humility and wants to make sure there is somebody in place to take his seat when he vacates it. We were told by sever senior officials he decided to make this and they have been talking about this decision as being final in their conversations inside the west wing. So thats our reporting at this hour. We standby it. Phil, how is dangling a departure for long this is a rhetorical question i guess. Yes. And you raise that this is unique. S he is an active duty three star. His next assignment, his next posting, his next deployment is critical. They would like to give him a voice in that im sure. There is a desire inside the white house by the president by also by kelly and others in the administration to find app safe comfortable landing spot for mcmaster, perhaps a promotion and somewhere outside of washington. It is unclear what that vacancy is at this time. There is an effort to carve out a path for him so he wont be d dismissed the way Rex Tillerson is. Certainly an effort to preserve some type if it were sur rouroug mcmaster. Its been a stream of reporting. It is over the last 24 hours or so is that the president has arrived at a decision to remove him. It is now a matter of when and how it becomes executed. To peter baker who is another part of this newspaper war we are living through, is there anyone but the president who knows whats going to happen next . Thats the real question, right . Nothing is really final. Another story saying that Rex Tillerson was on the way out and mike pompeo would be on his way out. You never really know. I think thats the trick. Its one of the thins that happened and they may have brought him a little more time. That tweet that he saw the story and he got mad about it. That happens. He doesnt like to be backed into a corner and doesnt like anybody to say what he will do. We write stories saying she on the verge of doing this or doing that. The other thing is john kellys hand in this. He seems to be the one who is agitating about mcmaster. He blames the National Security adviser. He blames him for tillersons ouster. John kelly may be trying to undercut mcmaster. John kelly could be out any single day. So h. R. Mcmaster has been giving given in addition to his genuine scholarship his book in the vietnam era is among the best written on the subject. I suppose to my question to phil, there is really not going to be any elegance in his departure at this point. No. I mean thats one of the things about this. Peter mentioned tillerson was on his way out in december. People were questioning should anyone trust him, should he be speaking for president for months. The same thing is going to happen for mcmaster. We have known for weeks and also we have known for a long time, the two of them did not gel. Youre questioning is he speaking for the president. Are they own the same page . Its just a problem. I have to question your shakey reporting based only on 19 sources. I will quote from another portion. Trump some times expressed confusion about what agencies are in charge of what duties a Senior Administration said. For example this official said he complained to pruitt about regulatory processes for Construction Projects even though the epa is not in charge of the regulations. This is germane because so much of what we are being told about this further staffer churn, why this mump and why now is the president was unfamiliar with the job when he first arrived having no Prior Experience and he is now kind of learning the contours of the jobover presidency, this reporting not with standing. He is very comfortable in the job now. He feels like he doesnt need to be man ajd in the early months when there was such a heavy hand. He feels like he is make some of his own decisions. He did that on the tariffs with aluminum and steel. He did that with decision to meet with kim jong un and as he looks at his cabinet he is trying to figure out who do i like having around and who does he think gets him . That is is it somebody like linda mcman that he has a real sort of Comfort Level with and fellow billionaire who really understands how trump operates . Peter, a question i always ask you, how did the trump agenda advance today any where in washington . Thats a great question. Its hard to find something to put your finger on. They are so consumed with their own personnel issues its hard to imagine there being a chance to advance policy. The president did and youll talk about this later. He did put sanctions on russia for the election meddling. Its the first time they have done that. It is a significant act. Otherwise its hard to imagine people wondering who will be there being able to put together a plan for action. Phils story did a great job capturing that instability and uncertainty and confusion. Your effectiveness and able to do the job and many months and even though he still held that title. Mcmaster is certainly now questioned about whether he is representing the president. And jefr sessions, it remains the attorney general of the United States. President s have the right to surround themselves with the people they want. On big jobs the lawmakers in washington have consent and ability and right to that. And also the American People have the right to see some stability in their government. Anita, its eat plaanother plac theres no viewers guide. There are many people in the last day or two or week say it feels like the transition, the president ial transition. This is what we went through 14 or 15 months ago. The president is picking who he wants to be surrounded with. You would expect that during transition. You wouldnt expect for us to be in this point now where he is trying to, you know, take trips around the world, push out policy and do all sortsov of otr things. It is almost like 14 months in he is surrounding himself with the people he wanted. The president said he learned a lot about people. It is a shame he sort of has taken it for long. Well close on this quote. I have gotten to know a lot of people very well over the last year. Im really at a point where we are getting close to vk the cabinet and other things that i want. Well let him speak for himself on that quote. Much obliged. Tha thanks for a terrific conversation. Coming up as we continue, mueller movers closer to the president in this special Council Investigation delivering a subpoena to the larger Trump Organization and later a look at tru trumps toughest move to date as he sanctioned 14 people indicted by said special council. The 11th hour on a thursday night continues after this. Laure dog grooming palace. Laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but shes not much on articles of organization. Articles of what . So, she turned to legalzoom. They helped me out. She means we helped with her llc, trademark, and a lot of other legal stuff thats a part of running a business. So laura can get back to the dogs. Would you sit still . This is lauras mobile dog grooming palace and this is where life meets legal. When it comes to travel, i sweat the details. Late checkout. Downalternative pillows. And of course, price. Tripadvisor helps you book a. Hotel without breaking a sweat. Because we now instantly. Search over 200 booking sites. To find you the lowest price. On the hotel you want. Dont sweat your booking. Tripadvisor. The latest reviews. The lowest prices. Before discovering nexium 24hr to treat her frequent heartburn, lucy could only imagine enjoying a slice of pizza. Now its as easy as pie. Nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for allday, allnight protection. Can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn . For allday, allnight protection. So, howell. Going . We had a vacation early in our marriage that kinda put us in a hole. Go someplace exotic . Yeah, bermuda. A hospital in bermuda. A hospital in bermuda. What . What happened . I got a little overconfident on a moped. Even with insurance, we had to dip into our 401 k so it set us back a little bit. Sometimes you dont have a choice. But it doesnt mean you cant get back on track. Great. Yeah, great. Id like to go back to bermuda. I hear its nice. Yeah, id like to see it. No judgment. Just guidance. Td ameritrade. Robert mueller zeroing in on this newspaper war. The New York Times reporter report mueller is using his subpoena power to demand documents including some related to russia from the Trump Organization. They write it is the first then instance demanding records directly directly related. It was not clear why mueller issued it. The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation which mr. Trumps lawyers assured him would be completed by now will drag on for several more months. Listen. The white house was asked if the president still considered this investigation of his finances crossing a kind of red line. As we maintained all along and as the president said num r rous times there was no collusion regarding a Trump Organization. I would refer you to them. Well continue to fully cooperate out of respect for special council. We are not going to comment. The lawyer issued the following statement. It reads we have advised the public that the Trump Organization is fully cooperative with all investigations including the special council and is ri responding to their requests. This is old news and our assistance and cooperation with various operations remains the same today. We have veteran journalist and frapg is back with us. Former managing editor happens to be Nelson Mandelas biographer. More on that at a later date. Welcome to you all. Goes without saying. Frank, they didnt ask, they subpoenaed these documents, a distinction of great interest to you, i know. Brian, many experts have already said there is a strong obstruction case already involving the president. So if you have got that why would you then ask pretty please for the Trump Organization to turn over what they can if you suspect they might not be cooperating. You want to lock them in, lock them down, do it with a subpoena that commands their cooperation. Another distinction, do you explain for me and our audience the documents, some of them are about russia, not all. What could it mean for the other requested documents . Theres a couple of reasons why this is a significant subpoena. First, clearly it could show past dealings with russia that clearly would go towards possible masking of moneys. Money laundering, maybe a violation to the constitution. Maybe everyday of obstruction. Maybe shedding light on why they want it to go away. It might show shady business dealings or debt problems with russia. But going beyond that, going beyond russia could be showing evidence of other compromise, other entities involved in this picture. The special council is a prosecutor. He will keep going and he is not going to restrain himself to one country only if he sees compromise as possible. We have thrown together about business interesting or lack there of. Well watch it together and talk about it on the other side. I have nothing to do with russia. I promise you i dont have no dealings with russia. I have no 2k50deals that cou happen in russia because we stayed away. I have no loans with russia. I have nothing to do with russia. I have no investments in russia, none what so ever. I dont have property in russia. Sounds like he has nothing to do with russia. Those are his comments based on his own understanding, all the more reasons it may be a scary thought. Right. If he has no dealings with russia that mueller is going to get and will be extremely small. It is what you expect. None of us think that is the case. It does seem that over the years they have dangled the prospect of business deals or loans in frontov of donald trump. He has been interested in having a trump tower built and the question for the special prosecut prosecutor is was there some financial misdealing between the Trump Organization and moscow that would have given moscow some kind of leverage over the Trump Administration that could have gotten some kind of a quid pro quo. That is one of the areas the Mueller Investigation is looking into. All of this matters. People can hear it and see it. You know, that story about when he said that he actually c confessed to lying to a world leader, we would wonder does he know when he is lying when he was lying . Today he confessed he knew he was lying. I have to say with muellers subpoena today i have to think maybe he actually ran for president so that he could build that hotel in moscow. It has been a white whale for him. For a man who is imprecise with his language he is precise when he is talking about russia. He is always talking in the present tense. I have no investments in russia. He has had cascades of russian money over the years. It was Russian Development deals and he always wanted to have that there. I agree with what they said. Mueller is looking at are there connections. This is forcing Donald Trumps happene hand. Its something thats disturbing to the whole world if russia has leverage over the president of the United States. There has to be normalization. All of our guests have agreed to stick around. Well take a break. When we come back well take a look at todays rare action against russia that the United States was a part of but will it be enough to silence the critics we hear on this broadcast every night . More when the 11th hour continues. Ah, my poor mouth breather. Allergies . Stuffy nose . Cant sleep . Enough. Take that. A breathe right nasal strip of course. Imagine just put one on and pow it instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than allergy medicine alone. So you can breathe, and sleep. Better than a catnap. Shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. Breathe right. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. Trusyou and lantus. You go together, so Stay Together. Stay together with a 0 copay, youve got zero reasons to leave, and every reason to stay. Lantus is used to control high blood sugar in people with diabetes. Do not use lantus to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if youre allergic to insulin. Get medical help right away if you have a serious allergic reaction such as body rash or trouble breathing. Dont reuse needles or share insulin pens. The most common side effect is low blood sugar which can be lifethreatening. It may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. Check your blood sugar levels daily. Injection site reactions may occur. Dont change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. Tell your doctor about all your medicines and medical conditions. Check insulin label each time you inject. Taking tzds with insulins like lantus may cause Heart Failure that can lead to death. Stay together with the lantus 0 copay. Lets Stay Together talk to your doctor or visit saveonlantus. Com. The Trump Administration individuals and organizations as a response to interference in our 2016 election and other Cyber Attacks into the u. S. Power grid. More on that in a moment. Overall they represent the administrations most agres ifr actions yet against moscow since this president took action. It was at the same thing with u. K. France and germany announced for the poison attack saying it was highly likely russia was responsible. During a meeting today which accounts for fact that it looks like a plant was growing out of the president s pocket the president said it looked like russia buzz behind the attack. It looks like it. I spoke with the Prime Minister and we are in deep discussions. A very sad situation. It looks like the russians were behind it. S it is something that should never ever happen. We are taking it very seriously as are many others. It does happen to be shamrock season. Peter baker pointed out in keeping with his reluck dance to blame moscow for meddling in the 2016 president ial Campaign Trump did not mention the sanctions or election interference. During todays White House Press briefing Peter Alexander asked this question. Reporter is putin a friend or foe of the United States . I think thats something russia will have to decide whether or not they want to be a good actor or bad actor. So they are all back. We were talking in the break. You knefeel these are real and e a positive thing. Yes. I think they are a positive thing. The statement was very strong. It was about cyber act 2ivity. You couldnt be more straight about it. It was hard to be rhetorically stronger. You can actually go online and see them. I mean they are mainly focused on the Internet Research agency which was the place that did all of this disinformation. It is the russian intelligence agencies. Thats what he is most most sense tifr about. The part of the story is this. The administration took the unusual step. The intrusions into american mower plants and the computer networks. The attacks known as dragon flies conspiracied many layers. The lights are still out. Imagine what a bad actor could do on the switch. It is strong condemnation hearing about the sajss and from the white house spokesperson. They come out strongly and to hear the president come out and say extradition and symbolically. I want extradition of the 13 people and i dont want this to happen again. It is that circle tightened up and i lover the fact that we are naming and shaming the entities that are nothing more than cutouts. They could hurt us. They had known a dragon fly. Well, i hope we are allowed to say outloud we hope the home team has similar tentacles just because thats the nature of this kind of warfare. I think youll agree with me that todays joint announcement by the allies felt so two years ago. Its the kind of things allies used to do. It is the kind of thing the u. S. Used to sign onto all of the time. An attack on one is an attack on all. Yeah. It seems in his conversation the british Prime Minister managed to nudge donald trump into position. He dropped ambiguity. There was no whom ever it are was attached to that. He fingered russia. He said he was standing by the brits in that assessment. So thats new. The question now is going to be whether its on the ear siother of the atlantic and the kind of really hurts with what we have heard. So far we havent seen that. If it has come that russia has gone far enough that they need to stop the kind of med 8ing that we have seen in elections in the u. K. And we have seen with the poisoning with this former russian spy they need to do something that is tougher than they have done so far. It probably means hitting is russian hold on the London Property market. It is new but what we need is a sanction. We were the only ones that went on the web site to read them. Thank you from three of our favorite guests. Thank you. Coming up the only thing the u. S. , u. K. , france and germanys leaders could agree on today. Well go live to paris when we come back. Dad dad can you drive me to jessicas house . groans welcome to my house by flo rida this is what our version of Financial Planning looks like. Tomorrow is important, but so is making the most of the house before theyre out of the house. Spend your life living. Find an advisor at northwesternmutual. Com. Jimmys gotten used to his whole yup, hes gone noseblind. Odors. He thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this. Luckily theres febreze fabric refresher for all the things you cant wash. It finds odors trapped in fabrics and washes them away as it dries. And try pluggable febreze to continuously eliminate odors for up to 45 days of freshness. Pluggable febreze and fabric refresher. Two more ways to breathe happy. Waallies are saying this is part of activity we have seen from russia in their interference, their disruption they have perpetrated. It happened in the u. K. And it could have happened any where. We take a united stance against it. Responding to englands stance against russia following this chemical weapon attack on british soil. On march 4th a former russian spy and his daughter were poisoned with a nerve agent developed by the soviet union during the cold war so potent its not allowed in warfare. The mover profited the Prime Minister to kick 23 Russian Diplomats out of the u. K. Today the leaders of the u. S. , france and germany joined the u. K. In a formal condemnation of moscow. The joint Statement Reads in part and we quote we share the united kingdoms adeszment there is no plausible explanation and note the failure to request we call on russia to add dress a address all questions related to the attack. Christopher dicky currently world news editor for daily beast and msnbc contribute to and willing to wake up at 4 40 in the morning to talk to us. U. S. Managing editor of the financial times. Im told theres a delay of a coupleov couple of a coupleovseconds to. Your view . Well, ig think todays statement is condemnation without consequences as far as russia is concerned. And i think that in fact people are missing it if they dont understand that putin is benefitting from this entire controversy. Putin has a it doesnt really do anything to anybody else m they are con standpoint const attacking it. He will win a huge majority. Everybody expects that. One reason he will get that is because she convinced them he i standing up against all of this pressure he claims is totally unjustified. Im not just asking this question because of your upbringing. We did just hear her theorize that maybe the british Prime Minister is what it took to prod the american president into a position that sounds much more like american president s tend to sound. It is good news for teresa may in that we do have this Coalition Forming wean the u. K. , u. S. , french and german governments at least to make a statement of criticism. It is a bit premature to say they are on board with the u. K. Right now and there will be a crucial meeting on monday. Well see whether will is a Strong Coalition here or not. There is a sign that for the first time you actually got somethingov of an agreement. Christopher, we devote as you may know, a lot of talk about this new kind of odd russia normalization with this new administration in the country of your birth here in the United States. Whats your view of europe . Has europe stayed closer to the way we used to think say two years ago in ancient history . Well, i think that europe is tied to russia in ways that are inkresingly uncomfortable. There is a lot of Energy Dependence on russia for russian gas. So there is always a reluctance to come down too hard on it. Even great britain. What measures are they going to take against russia for this horrendous offense . One thing that obviously would hurt putin, that would hit him where it counts would be if there were an International Boycott of the world cup coming up this summer which he worked very hard to get and which is the kind of sports event that he thinks brings enormous prestige. If there were this by germany and france that would be important but its not happening. So i think that theres a sense in which the europeans are reluctant to take strong measures and he knows that. He knows he can get away with this stuff. He has gotten away with it and he will continue getting away with it. Yeah. Thats basically symbolic measures. We have had muttering about them not going to the world cup. A boycott isnt on the table yet. The question is london has benefitted hugely by essentially dealing with russian money. It is Public Relation groups, lawyers, a whole group of people that have benefitted. If london was to seriously clamp down on russians and clamp down on holdings and seize assets and prevent them from enjoying l london and the u. K. It would hurt putin and the u. K. Our thanks to our two guests tonight. As we say, christopher gets the trophy for being willing to get up at 4 40 a. M. In paris. Any time in paris is pretty great. Thank you so much. Its a conversation i would like to continue and repeat with both of you. Coming up separating fact and fiction when it comes to the president s remarks on trade and why it all matters. As we said, the whole w0rorld i watching when we continue. Hey, sir losealot thou hast the patchy beard of a prepubescent squire thy armor was forged by a feeblefingered peasant woman. Your mom as long as hecklers love to heckle, you can count on geico saving folks money. Boring fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. He gets the best deal on the Perfect Hotel by using. Tripadvisor thats because tripadvisor lets you start your trip on the right foot. By comparing prices from over 200 booking sites to find the right hotel for you at the lowest price. Saving you up to 30 youll be bathing in savings tripadvisor. Check the latest reviews and lowest prices. avo if yourand youve triedlly pain any number of laxatives, probiotics, and fiber, it could be wearing on you. Tell your doctor what youve tried and how long youve been at it. Linzess works differently from laxatives. Linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. It can help relieve your belly pain and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements that are easier to pass. Do not give linzess to children less than six, and it should not be given to children six to less than eighteen. It may harm them. Dont take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. Get immediate help if you develop unusual or severe stomach pain, especially with bloody or black stools. The most common side effect is diarrhea, sometimes severe. If its severe stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. Other side effects include gas, stomacharea pain, and swelling. Ask your doctor if 90 days of linzess may be right for you. On this day when President Trump issued that joint statement with allies in europe, he found himself in trouble with another ally closer to home, directly to our north in fact. The Washington Post reported Late Wednesday that trump boasted in a fundraising speech earlier in the day that he made um information in a meeting with Prime MinisterJustin Trudeau incorrectly stating the u. S. Run as trade deficit with canada. Nbc news has since obtained the audio. Nice looking guy comes in, donld, we have no trade deficit. Hes very proud because everybody else, you know, were getting killed. So hes proud. I sent one of our guys out, his guy, my guy, they went out, i said check because i cant believe it. Well, sir, youre actually right. We have no deficit but that doesnt include energy and timber. And when you do lose 17 billion a year, its incredible. The post writes this, quote, the office of the United States trade representative says the United States has a trade surplus with canada. It reports that in 2016 the u. S. Exported 12. 5 billion more in goods and services than it imported from canada, leading to a trade sur applauplus, not a d. President trump fired back on twitter, we do have a trade deficit with canada, as we do with almost all countries, some of them massive. P. M. Justin trudeau of canada, a very good guy. Doesnt like saying that canada has a surplus versus the u. S. , but they do, they almost all do and thats how i know. Our own canada and trade, ali velshi, reduced to using trump in all caps, this isnt hard even for you in the white house. Canada buys more from america than america buys from canada. America has a trade surplus with canada, said ali velshi, who we know was born in canada. But wait, theres more. Tonight the Canadian Press reports there is confusion over whether trumps comments ever actually happened. They write, quote, for starters, the canadian government is unsure what meeting hes referring to. A quick break for us. The 11th hour continues right after this. For all the eyes that get itchy and watery near pollen. Theres flonase sensimist. It relieves all your worst symptoms including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. Tired of wrestling with seemingly impossible cleaning tasks . Using wipes in the kitchen, and sprays in the bathroom can be ineffective. Try mr. Clean magic eraser. Simply add water, and use in your kitchen for burnt on food, in your bathroom to remove soap scum, and on walls to remove scuffs and marks. It erases 4x more permanent marker per swipe. For an effective, multisurface clean, use mr. Clean magic eraser. Brand power. Helping you buy better. [thud] [screaming crying] [screaming crying] [phone ping] with esurance photo claims, you could have money for repairs within a day. Wow that was really fast. Thats insurance for the modern world. Esurance. Click or call. Last thing before we go tonight, south florida dealing with yet another tragedy, this one stemming from a catastrophic structural and engineering failure. A pedestrian bridge, a new overpass walkway still under construction collapsed on to a busy highway in miami. The death toll thus far standing at four. Many others were injured and have been hospitalized, some critical. There were workers on the bridge at the time and cars were underneath it at the time. Eight vehicles that rescuers could at least see sticking out from the wreckage. Urban search and rescue teams responded along with heavy equipment. The ntsb is sending a team as well. The bridge want scheduled to be fully open till next year. It was built to correct the Florida International university with the town of sweetwater where about 4,000 of the students live. The bridge was just lifted into position saturday. Rescuers were using listening devices to try to detect signs of life from beneath that wreckage, but an awful scene this evening in miami. That is our broadcast for this thursday night. Thank you so very much for being here with us. Good night from nbc news headquarters in new york. Is. Thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Happy to have you here. A whole bunch of news today. A Senior Adviser to hud secretary ben carson resigned today after being confronted with reports that he faked all the important bits on his resume. That resignation and those questions about how people get vetted to be in this administration anyway, that resignation comes amid reports today that ben carson may himself have lied about he and his wife being personally involved in choosing 39,000 worth of new furniture for his office at hud. Whether or not you like Expensive Office in government offices, lying about it when youre confronted about it is never a good idea