Candidate on the eve of election accused of body slamming a reporter that caught audio of the encounter. Well play that on the 11th hour. Good evening once again from our headquarters in new york. And right before we tell you about day 25 of the trump administration, we want to preview for you a big political story out of montana which youve no doubt heard about already and well be covering live later in the hour. Theres this special election in congress. It came about when donald trump chose their congressman to head the interior department. A trump supporter is accused of body slamming a reporter who wuz asking him a question about the Congressional Budget Office projections on health care coverage. The candidate, the reporter says he was recording audio of the exchange when the scuffle broke out. This following recording happened in front of witnesses. Let me talk to you about that later. Yeah, but speak with shane, please. Sick and tired of you guys. The last guy that came here did the same thing. Get the hell out of here. The last guy did the same thing. You with the guardian . Yes, and you just broke my glass. The last guy did the same thing. You just body slammed me and broke my glasses. Its now in the hands of local Law Enforcement in montana and election day is tomorrow. As promised. Day 125 of the new administration and again another newheadline on russia and the Trump Campaign and the New York Times. Quote senior russian intelligence and political officials were discussing how to exert influence over donald trump through his advisors according to three current and former officials familiarer with the intelligence. The conversations focussed on Paul Manafort and michael t. Flynn. The fbi and cia declined to comment when asked about this by the times. Both manafort and palestiniflyn previously denied collusion. They would be supee subpoenaing. Schiff says he tid not comply. A New Washington post report says he may have based his actions last summer on a bogus russian dockium but that document, according the report is viewed within the fbi as unreliable and possibly a fake. More on all of that in a moment. These stories all hit while the president is still overseas. And on the same day as a round op of bad polling numbers for this white house. A new poll finds the Approval Rating at 37 . 55 disapproval of the job hes ing. Same poll 54 say the president is abusing his office. 66 say they support a special prosecutor. Just 40 of respondents say the president has good leadership skills and only 31 say the president is level headed. There are the numbers as of troo today. Were so happy that both sides in the great newspaper war of 2017 are represented tonight. White house correspondent for the New York Times, robert kosta and we welcome mika o yang an attorney and former staffer on the House Intelligence Committee. Glen, tell us about what your colleagues have written tonight on russia and why its important while i take a drink of water. I think the president needs to take a dwrirink of water. We have day after day had these revelations. Todays revelation is that they discuss the possibility of being a able to influence Michael Flynn who is also come at the same time on the pay roll of turkey and was being paid by russian television. Also Paul Manafort who had a contract beginning to influence positive coverage in American Media and a relationship with the ukrainian party. This stuff keeps cascading. The aggregate and in that very lengthy lead up, you didnt mention another news break today which was that jeff sessions, the attorney general apparently didnt report his own interactions with kislyak, the Russian Ambassador to the United States. Bottom line and the poll numbers show this is that its a significant scandal for the president and this isnt going away anytime soon and the level of candor and the spes fisty of answers is starting to pressure the republicans in congress and i think this is going to dominate everything including what the republicans had homed would be legislative agenda. This candidate who talked about polls early and often, theyre on the move fast. Its going to alarm a lot of people. Putting that together with what youre seeing, where the subpoenas are concerned, is this investigation turning any kind of corner . In terms of the special counsel is moving forward, im told by my sources, that is what has people alarmed and on edge. They know the congressional committees are focussed mostly on testimony but its what rockeroc Robert Muellers up to. And were not in a profile encouraged era. Its been theorized that when people on the hill see the base is moving, they may begin migrating as well. Well have to see. The trump base is something the president has felt he has really had in his pocket for a long time. But the cloud of the russia investigations is in no way moving on. It takes major cuts at medicaid taking a stab in a way at rural voters, at poor voters. It does not go after it in the same way as it does poor. The working class element is surely being tested at this moment. Thank goodinous for this conversation. Yourer a lawyer. Do all subpoenas carry the same weight . People are going to hear so much about different subpoenas monopoly are th. Are they all the same in the eyes of the law and the recipient . Its what the requester can do if the subpoena is ignored that makes the difference and who we are asking. So when theyre asking the flynn himself questions, he might be able to assert a fifth amendment right but when his companys asked, he cant. So that opens up the door to gathering a whole lot of documents from carter page. Flynn, all these guys runninging all the documentation through their companies. So the committees are go having to an awful lot of paperwork to go through. Nothing gets congress more upset on a bipartisan basis than someone telling them no. And are we correct ein assuming that everything gets carter to cross town to the temporary office space mr mr. Muellerer has collected for his office staff. If theyre available to congress, theyre available to a special prosecutor. Okay. Any indication that when they get back theyre going to want to roll their agenda back to launch pad 39 a or is this going to still bow the consumption of the Trump White House . The thing weve been hearing is that theyve been contemplating a staff shake up. The other thing was that the needle had been pointing towards Joe Lieberman for a quick replacement at fbi. Thats been cut down because hes been working with a law firm that trump might use as outside counsel. All this stuff is starting to cros fapollinate. You saw the tape of paul ryan earlier. Hes stuck with this president in hopes of getting tax reform passed. Thats quickly fading. They thought they had a seven to eight month window of action. Thats closing to the vanishing point. All bets are off. The president is now turning inward on his staff. I really dont know whats going to happen when he comes back. The tough part might be the next couple of days when hes dealing with nato and folks in europe. But i dont think this is the reset that a lot of his staff anticipated it would be. Are you stunned by these poll numbers . They reflect some of the low eb polls we had seen before. And i was struck by a politico poll which showed for the first time it fell around 79 er among republicans. Remember the famous quote that he could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot everybody. When you start seeing his support falling below 80, then he has real reason to worry. Do you see the advice of outsiders actually taking hold and message discipline occurring finally to the president or do you think it is just the taxing nature of his first overseas trip . Thats one and number two, i usually ask you what its like to be an elected republican right now on capitol hill. The first question. People inside and outside the white house are pleasantly surprised the president has been able to stay relatively on message during this foreign trip. But they acknowledge that once he returns home and he faces mounting questions about russia, bouts the special counsel, that kind of message discipline is not necessarily going to be the same as it was abroad. And what the president s doing is the president prefers to be his own messenger. For elecced republicans, this is a difficult time. Theyre happy, they tell me, with the president not making major gafs abroad but theyre concerned about the stalled legislative agenda. Theyre not sure the votes there for the health care package. The new score has made even conservatives say this bill goes too far. Theyre worried about what can get done this year. What is the next thing youre looking for and thus we should look for in terms of the investigation, the thing that will tell you theyre moving further and further down the road . I would expect to see more document requested. And i think were waiting for further testimony from director comey who has said he would testify again. For people that dont walk around with a law dictionary, were hearing this wurksd subjorn. But this is the next round for this word. Can you define it. Suborn is to try and subvert, turn someone into your own youre trying to get them to do something bad is what it means. Okay. Ill take that. Are they expected to bring the Senior Correspondent something from duty free . Im hoping for rum but its the wrong part of the world. Thank you all of you for being on our starting panel tonight. A pleasure. Coming up after our first break two u. S. Senators standing by for reaction for these reports out tonight. One democrat, one republican and a candidate for the house of representatives accused of body slamming a reporter. That audio and a loob at where this race stands when the lae11 hour continueds. Er for not to be focusingo finaon my moderatepe. To severe chronic plaque psoriasis. So i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. Humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. In clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75 and even 90 clearance in just 4 months. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. 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First of all your reaction to just todays New York Times report about the russians and the Trump Campaign. What alarms you and did you know any of this previously . Well, what alarms me is that we have more and more evidence that there were contacts between the Trump Campaign and the russian government after out right denials from trump surrogates and spokes people for the last six months and so it feels as if were getting closer and closer to the truth. It feels leak the walls are closing in on the white house and im glad, frankly, that we have an independent prosecutor now who can make sure that to the extend there was criminal activity during the campaign, that we can get to the bottom of it. To the extent that we are maybe on the pres ps of a real crisis, my hope is that republicans and democrats will join together if the evidence is there of something incredibly serious. Senator, when youre up at home and your constituents just want to know, they want your reassurance that somehow this will all be investigated and the public good will be served. What assurance do you give them and has your answer changed now that were in the mueller era . I was very worried because i just didnt have confidence that the Senate Investigation and the house investigation could get to the bottom of this. In large part because those two committees are not investigative by nature. Bob mueller is an investigatorer. I have faith he is going to have the resources to get to the truth. In connecticut people are exhausted at the pace of these revelations and trufmp supportes and opponents are looking for a week off. But i think we all have a bit more faith that to the extent there is a truth there, that well find it. I got to ask you about this story in the news tonight. I know youve been voking regarding this congressional race, the aledged body slam. Some are going to blame our corrosive and broken politics, some are going to blame a broken way we view though of us in our professioninging who he bn called enemies of the people by the leader of the free world. Theyre both wrong and its the republican candidates. Fox news were the reporters in the room. The eye witnesses came out curoberating ben jacobs story saying he got on top of him and starting punching him. Part of being a member of congress invauvlg involves repo asking you questions. Thats what reporters areified do and our country is better off for it. I would hope this guy doesnt get close to the United States congress because it sends a message that you have the license to fwoe to town on him. I know the cbo score is really hurtful to republicans. But that doesnt give you the excuse to do what this guy did. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. And now to south dakota. Thank you for being with us. And i noted mr. Brennan yesterday before the House Committee said very pointedly everyone by now should realize the russian involvement in our election. Are you among them . Are you there . Are you exercised about it . We have discussed the fact there was russian involvement in the election. They were more aggressive than they have been in the past. They used cyber as a way to aggressively impact the election. We used it to first of all steal information and second of all to disseminate information, which has not happened in the past. This suggests they were aggressive and they didnt care if we knew or not. I ask because of your seat on Armed Services about american over sharing. We have the oval Office Incident with the russians and the brits are angry because it was the americans apparently who leaked the name of the manchester attacker before the police were ready toot do so themselves and now President Trump gave away the location of some of our suck marines which all submarines for a reason. Do you fear this kind of over sharing by the new chief executive or by america . We should always be careful when were talking about classified information. We have classified briefings on a regular basis. Were very concerned about information getting into the wrong hands. So we most certainly have concerns. Anytime theres a suggestion that information gets into the wrong hands. Im not aware of the specifics behind the suggestions you just made but even the thought of that information getting out is a concern and its shared across both aisles in congress. When you go them to great and beautiful state of south dakota while its not your fault, do you acutely neal facts that you dont have a heck of a lot of deliverables to be able to say we passed this, the president signed it, this is the trump agenda to make America Great again . We talk about the fact weve got a Supreme Court justice as promised whos a conservative, a Vice President who was a great choice, cabinet members, we are getting a good cabinet in place. We talk about the fact that weve got a budget in place between now and the end of this fiscal year and we did it without a government shut down. We talk about this president is talking about increasing the funding of defense. And there are concerns about the budgets the president just put out but as we tell our folks back there the president has the opportunity suggest but its congress that controls the purse strings. Actually were working on health care sqand tax reform. I introduced a propose tool reduce all the income tax rates by two points across the board. Be about an 800 redpoukz in their income taxes. So were working on health care, were working on tax reform. These are things the American People want us to continue to focus on and thats bhaut were going to do. And your reaction to body slam out of montana tonight . I 3rd report from the sheriff and i think he said it appropriately. Were going to do it justice, were not going to let politics get in the way theyre going to follow through with all the facts and theyll let the facts lead them wherever it goes. Thank you so much for sticking around. When we come back after this, its one seat out of 435 but something happened today cementing this congressional race as national news. Tech when your windshield needs to be fixed. Trust safelite autoglass. For these parents, driving around was the only way to get their baby to sleep. So when their windshield got cracked. Customer we cant drive this car. Tech . They wanted it fixed right. So they scheduled with safelite. Our exclusive trueseal Technology Means a strong, reliable bond, every time. At safelite, we stand behind our work. Bye, bye. Because the ones you love, sit behind it. parents whisper jingle safelite repair, safelite replace. 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Ben jacobs, reporter for the guardian says he was body slammed by greg gianforte. We recorded some audio earlier. Hear now the entire clip. Because you were waiting to make your decision about health care let me talk to you about that later. Yeah, but speak to shane, please. Sick and tired of you guys. The last guy did the same thing. Get the hell out of here. The last guy did the same thing. You with the guardian . Yes, and you just broke my glasses. The last guy did the same thing. You just body slammed me and broke my glass. Get the hell out of here. Ya id also like to call the police. Can i get your guys names . He just body slammed me. The campaign put out this statement quote tonight as greg was giving a separate interview in a private office, the guardians ben jakens entered without permission, aggressively shoved a recording in gregs face and began asking badgering questions. After asking jacobs to lower the recorder, jacobs declined and jacobs grabbed gregs wrist and spun away pushing them both to the ground. Its unfortunate this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist caused this scene at our barbecue. We should add a Fox News Team in the room says thats not what they saw. Quote gianforte grabbed jacobs by the neck with both hands and slammed him to the ground behind him. And joining us by phone from bowsman, montana, our own garret headache. Becau well start with you. The politics in a second but first just the weirdness of this moment. We were 200 miles away in missoula with the democrat rod quicks campaign when the news broke. I showed the original ben jacobs tweet to a staffer and everyone thought it was a bazar joke and as the night progressed it was clear this was real. We took the 80 mileperhour highways to get to boseman. We stopped add a gas station on the way. I told a clerk about this. She said to me that sounds like my kind of politician. This is at best a huge embarr s embarrassme embarrassment. He was by most accounts going to win this race. The polling has been all over the map. Its a special election on a thursday in may. But the numbers had him winning narrowly to as big as seven or eight points. A lot of voelttes already in. How much this gets in the blood stream or effects people who havent made up their mind in whats been a high focus, high Energy Election in a state that doesnt typically have those, well find out tomorrow night. Thanks for the hustle in covering this. He has made it to bos erkbosema. Thanks for the driving reference. Appreciate the effort. So much to talk about here. They get one at large seat because of population. So theres National Interest because we love the use the word referendum and theres a percentage of the vote in and counted before tonight incident. The 11th hour surprise in politics is not what it used to be because of mailin voting. Even before news of this breek, 250,000 mailin ballots have already been received. They expect a total of 400,000 votes to be cast in this state total for the election. 250,000 already cast, already received. Many more in the mail. We can say pretty clearly that the majority of the votes were cast before anyone knew. Probably about 2 3 of the votes. Even if this makes gianforte a toxic character, did he get enough votes before anyone knew about it . Ive 3rd sheriff say its up to the county attorney. But this could be a legal matter to a guy who may be crewsing to election tomorrow. Theres the legal question. This would be a bit of a stretch. But theres a question of how the house itself theres strict criteria set by the Supreme Court in terms of seating members. Lets see if theres charges pressed or something. There is the scenario, i suppose where he would renounce the election if he were to win and there would be another special election. As garret said this is montana, donald trump won this state by 21 points last year. Montana is a funky state. Thachk arer had a couple of democratic governors. This is a state willing to vote democratic under certain conditions and youve had republicans before saying theyre worried about this election. They saw what happened, the democrats shaved 20 points and they said this is the kind of climate where even montana under the right set of kujditions could go to the democrats. Could this swing it . That is a question. Back here in the studio tomorrow night with our first look at a return. Steve, thanks very much for your reporting tonight. When we come back all the investigations in the donald trump. 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In effect if i stop time, called a timeout, could you make an obstruction case if i asked you to . I think i could. It depends on the evidence that ive heard or read or seen on television. On your show and others. If all of that is true, then theres an obstruction of justice. Can you make an obstruction case even if the dotted line doesnt lead you to an approval . Yes. If the investigation is impeded and there was clearly an attempt to stop the investigation of flynn and of russia and of the connections with the Trump Campaign and russia. Theres being an invesgation as a crime and as long as thats disrupted, thats onstruksz of justice. Ignorance of the law is no defense. It was being uttered by a cop at my car window and i was in a very bad spot. People have said this may be a profound rookie mistake to say to three people can you make this go away in effect but is it illegal . Loo lets look at some of the evidence. He asked the attorney general to leave the room. Thats pretty indicative he had an intent to do something he didnt want people to know about. He complained bitterly about bill clinton getting on loretta linchls plane. If he thought that was wrong not knowing whether there was an investigation, clearly he knew he couldnt talk to the fbi owe intelligence chiefs. Jeffrey, todays New York Times story about these conversations, about the efforts allegedly by the russians to get at people in Donald Trumps orbit, to influence them, what is that do and especially the cumulation of stories like this to case . Assuming the story is true, it adds creedance to the russian effort and they were clearly trying to identify people whom they could get obtain leverage over time so that they could then influence the new administration. This should not shock us. The russians have done this not only in this country but other parts of the world. So it adds creedance thats what they were up to. Are you surprised wheer are day 125 partnership you surprised we are where we are . No i think he would have been wise to get counsel recakouncou. He needs get wise counsel. It he continues to behave as he does, he will underhine his own presidency and ultimately make the United States weaker. He needs good counsel and to listen to it. If all the subpoenas are equal in the eyes of the law, will they by nature get greater response. Will they cause shivers perhaps that house intell Senate Intell wont . Im not sure how the individuals will react. I served on the staff of the iran contracommittee and we wound up granting immuny to some 23 witnesses over the objection of the department of justice and that proved to be a mistake because as you know oly north t was based on information received by the iran contracommittee. How these subpoenas are handled by the congressional kmitys and mueller will determen a lot. Last word. Who has the worst exposure here . The most at risk for the country is the president. The subpoena from our office, from the Watergate Special prosecutor was at the same time as the senate and the house impeachment and i think there was more attention paid in the courts to a criminal investigation and theres some possibility that muellers will get more attention and responded to by the court and that would leave themany position more than to respond, at least to that one. Thank you both. Wed like to invite both of you back. Another break for us. When we come back. With help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. Sure we could travel, take it easy. But weve never been the type to just sit back. Not when weve got so much more to give when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. Ameriprise just turn on cars. Coms on tprice dropswant . And get realtime notifications that could help save you money. Use cars. Com and save. Lwhos the lucky lady . 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You know, he ran on this as a positive, outsider, businessman and now we have seen what happens when someone runs for the office who doesnt come up the normal way after studying or reading about the presidency, the processes of government or even the personality type of people who are honored to do government work for a career. The fact that he ran promising to be what he was then and has continued to be isn in strange way a sense of legitimacy. He didnt fool anyone as far as i can tell. It seems to me the American People in a process that was legitimate made a decision to give this wild experiment we are going through a try which is why i think it would be well for everyone to take a deep breath and let the constitutional and legal machinery work out now. Trying to overturn an American Election is a momentous thing. Impeachment has only been a serious manner with andrew johnson, with Richard Nixon and bill clinton. No one has been removed by impeachment. We talk about the Nuclear Option of this and that and the senate rules. This is the Nuclear Option. Are you assured of the integrity of the machinery of government, are you reassured now that we are living in the mueller era . I see no reason to withdraw confidence from the machinery at this point thmpt antibodies in the american politic and constitutional machine seem to be about as fragile as people think. We have congress involved and congress is an investigatatory branch. The Mueller Investigation will proceed under the guidance of a man with great integrity. There is a problem in that when you have overlapping and multiplying investigations they are apt to get in one anothers way. One of the ways you get information in an investigation is to grab someone who has information immunity to give the information without being in legal jeopardy. You can have conflicting grants of immunity that would impede granting the immunity and impudding by investigator b. It can get confused and selfdefeating. It is a little premature to give up on this process. I just had a cracker jack lawyer sitting with me who goes back to the time of water gate. You perhaps heard her answer. I said if we stop time could you make obstruction of justice case. She said i think i could. Whats wrong with that . I dont know what she meant by that. Lets take some of the language we heard on the broadcast tonight. We have heard that we all know there was russian involvement in the American Election. That is a capacious term. I dont know what all of that is supposed to encompass. There were suspicious contacts between People Associated with, itself a kind of elastic term the Trump Campaign. What are we suspicious of . What do we suspect they did . The russians we heard on the program a few months ago stealing information. Yes, but to what end . And did it work . And was it worth their trouble . Which is to say what we know at this point is that there is a lot yet to be known. Deep breath everybody. The machinery is in place in congress and in mr. Muellers office. Lets let it work. I hope the word institutionalest never becomes i think what you just laid out and said while institutionalist is important for that very reason and we are as always grateful every time we can have you on the broadcast. Thank you very much. Glad to be with you. George will with us tonight from washington. Another break and when we come back what one of the president cabinet secretaries said today that is making news tonight. Itsand your doctor at yoto maintain your health. A because in 5 days, 10 hours and 2 minutes you are going to be 67. And on that day you will walk into a room where 15 people will be waiting. 12 behind the sofa, 2 behind the table and 1 and a half behind a curtain. Family surprise but only one of them will make a life long dream come true. 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While he went on to urge parents to instill the mindset of a winner in their children and to avoid a defeatist attitude. Critics of course have pounced, most with the same message that carson who grew up poor in inner city detroit and rose to prominence in medicine and politics surely knows a winning mindset wont afford food or health care or pay the rent. He suggested to change the name of his department to something other than department of housing and urban development which was a 1965 creation of president lyndon johnson. That is our broadcast for tonight. Thank you for being here with us. Good night for all of us from new york. Thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Theres a lot going on tonight. We are looking ahead to a big election tomorrow, Congressional Election that really on paper ought to be a shooin. In this day and age, who knows . That congressional race tomorrow was already a big political question mark before the news broke tonight that the republican candidate in the race appears to have attacked, physically attacked, a reporter tonight on the eve of the election. The reporter in question here is ben jacobs who writes for the guardian newspaper. Ben jacobs is an experienced,