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Acknowledged russias meddling in last years election, but now hes sharply criticizing former president obama for how he handled it. Did president obama do enough . President trumps travel ban hangs in the balance as the Supreme Court prepares to wrap up its current term tomorrow. Whats likely to happen there, and they are protected from deportation, but socalled dreamers do not qualify for lower instate college tuition. Ill talk to one student who fears for her future. To voice your opinion, grab your digital device, phone, laptop, go to pulse. Msnbc. Com america. Top story, one of the biggest critics of obamacare is adamant he doesnt want the gop Senate Health care bill to go through, at least for now. Ron johnson of wisconsin and four fellow republicans remain the biggest obstacle to President Trump and mitch mcconnell. Johnson told chuck todd on meet the press that he wants things to slow down. I would like to delay the thing. Theres no way we should be voting on this thing next week. No way. Are you going to work to stop it, stop a vote next week . I have a hard time believing wisconsin constituents or even myself will have enough time to properly evaluate this, for me to vote for motion proceed. Ive been encouraging leadership, the white house, anybody i can talk to for quite some time. Lets not rush this process. Meanwhile, more Senate Republicans could be considering a no vote, including Susan Collins of maine, who is sharing concerns today on two big fronts. That makes absolutely no sense to eliminate federal funding for planned parenthood. You cant take over 800 billion out of the Medicaid Program and not expect that its going to have an impact on a rural nursing home that relies on medicaid for 70 of the costs of its patients. Its hard for me to see the bill passing this week. Despite the roadblocks in his own party, President Trump remains optimistic, suggesting last minute changes are coming to save the bill. Hes responding to critics like former president obama. Take a listen. Some people might say the level of anger is unpress dence, but president obama came out on facebook, he said your bill, mr. President , not a health care bill, its a massive transfer of wealth, its going to harm americans, its mean. What do you say to the former president . He used my term, mean, that was my term, because i want to see and i speak from the heart. Thats what i want to see. I want to see a bill with heart. The infighting is leading to questions about how states would absorb another health care overhaul. Right now 11 states and washington, d. C. , use staterun marketplaces. The battle over trumpcare has supporters of single Parent Health care hoping their mission will gain some traction now. That brings us to our first pulse question of the day. Agree or disagree, states should determine health care, not the federal government. Pulse. Msnbc. Com america, let us know what you think. Start thg hour with mark almaday. Thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me, richard. You heard President Trump say he wants a bill with heart. Does the bcra, the Senate Republican bill, have heart . Well, i dont know yet, because i havent looked it over completely, but i can tell you this, that when the house bill came out, there was a lot of us, myself included, that were not in favor of the bill, so i expect the senate bill to go through evolution, too, in terms of trying to get to where they need to be to pass the bill. What would be one of the tweaks, based on your high level of understanding of the bcra . Well, ill tell you this, one of the challenges, and listening to the show, you know, people talk about medicaid, but saying medicaid in a blanket thing is actually not doing anybody any good to talk about the issue. You have traditional medicaid, which is pregnant moms, children, handicapped people, and old folks, and then you have the expansion, so it would help when youre talking about whos doing what to where and where that money is arguably coming from, if people would differentiate, because quite frankly, the objective to mess with traditional medicaid is one that i havent experienced. Everybodys talking about, for instance, the expansion of it, which in my state in the last 48 months according to the kaiser folks has expanded 300 , so youve got to get your arms around those issues in terms of Going Forward with the best possible course. Well, your state was voting whether or not to expand the idea of statewide medicaid, that your state would be, therefore, funding it. It did not make it through, the governor vetoed it. Did you support that . Well, actually, the whole argument there, when you say do you support it, theres two areas. Its whats covered, whats the policy on health care, but the other one, which is, quite frankly, the basis of the fight, richard, is whos going to pay for it. And i understand why governors want to keep Medicaid Expansion the way it is, because the federal government covers 90 of the cost while they get to go ahead and run the pro program. The problem is, when you look at the cost of that, and in my state, total medicaid, traditional, and also the expansion is about 13 of the pomlati population. So its not that they are not important, they are, but quite frankly, you have another 93 , 94 of the population of your state that you have to try to get the policy right for, too. So given who now is benefiting from medicaid, visavis aca in your state, do you want to freeze it . Well, heres i ended up listen, its interesting watching the senate, because i started out as a no. After looking at Medicaid Expansion and talking with the folks in tom prices office and asking them to talk to the nevada medicaid folks, you know, its interesting, because in our state basically what the proposal was, this, nobody gets kicked off unless you make more than 138 of poverty. Or unless you choose to get off because youve got a job. Our governor, and rightfully so, is bragging about the way jobs have increased and the Unemployment Rate is going down. Richard, over half the people in nevada get their Health Insurance through their employment, and that includes public employee, city, county, state, federal, like myself. So when you talk about that, you have to say, listen, we need to do the right thing by those 7 or 8 of the folks on expansion, but youve got to keep your eye on the rest of it, and by the way really quick, i only got a certain amount of time, representative, because you talked about getting your insurance through those who employ you. In the bcra, they will not guarantee low cost i should say Affordable Health Care Insurance for large companies. And that will hurt a lot of folks. Well, listen, im not going to sharp shoot the senate. Im just going to tell you i appreciate the minority leader saying i dont think he was a big fan of the house bill, he said it was mean, he said theirs was meaner, so i guess Chuck Schumer liked the house bill. Yeah, chuck, thanks for the kudos, big guy. Talking about the senators, whats your thought about your senator, who is now at the moment being a major holdout in terms of supporting the bcra . Talking about, of course, senator heller. Well, ill just say this, i started out as a no, did my homework, took a deep dive, swum around in the deep end of the pool to get to the point where i thought the Medicaid Expansion people were going to be protected, and the state still got basically reimbursed at the Affordable Care act rate. I would expect senator heller is doing the same thing i was doing, which is looking at the homework, figuring out how that affects people in his state, and then going ahead and trying to do all the value judgments, but the thing that everybodys missing is, theres a big forest fire burning west of town, richard, and guess what, health cares a problem. And so while nobody likes the its like are you going to be a firefighter or leave town and hope the whole place doesnt burn down . Weve got to address the forest fire thats coming to town. Are you the firefighter . Yes. Okay. Congressman, thank you so much from the great state of nevada. Thank you. Thanks, richard. Democratic congressman of florida now who voted against the House Health Care bill, he joins us right now. Congressman, thanks for being here with us. Let me ask you this, as you have seen what has been happening in the senate, and you see now five senators that are lined up not going to do it, obviously, there are two or three others that could join that team, do you believe that this bcra, the Senate Health care bill, will have the needed support . Well, i certainly hope not. Its, i think, little wonder, richard, that the bill in the senate was cooked up behind closed doors. The reason is really simple. When you put out a product thats going to Gut Health Care for millions of people in this country, you listen to the people trying to defend what the senate is doing, and all they are doing is finding new ways to say we want to cut medicaid, we want to do away with the preexisting language provision so that people can be discriminated against because of those conditions. Its okay for us to drive up costs on everyone and to reduce coverage. Thats why they are trying to look for other kinds of things to talk about, but thats ultimately what this bill does. Just one last point on medicaid, which i know you spent a fair amount of time talking about, medicaid isnt just a blanket program that helps poor people get access to Health Insurance. Its also a program that ensures that people with substance abuse, especially given the opioid crisis, people all across this country, millions of people have access to care and its a program that ensures that seniors are able to afford to live in nursing homes. All of that is on the chopping block under the senate bill, and thats why at the end of the day my guess is it will be a close vote, but my hope is it will be defeated because theres a reason this is so unpopular in this country and those are some of them. Did you read the bcra, the 140 pages plus . The bill on our side no, im talking about the senate bill. I havent read the i havent read the senate bill. Ive looked at the Detailed Analysis of the senate bill provision by provision, and its clear that what this bill does, like the house bill that passed, is going to result in a situation where there is a massive reduction in medicaid spending. There are millions of people who are going to lose their access to Health Insurance, and its going to drive up costs, especially for people over the age of 50 and even more for people over the age of 60. This is a bad piece of legislation that doesnt seek to work to make Health Insurance more accessible. Instead, its a massive, a massive, cut in Health Care Spending in order to provide an equally massive tax cut and thats a tradeoff thats not in the best interests of the American People. Yes or no, should, when we talk about health care, should that be a decision for states . Weve seen a lot of activity about states taking it upon themselves, despite aca being out there. California, nevada, vermont, new york tried for a little bit, too, they didnt make it through, but a lot of energy going on there. Is that what should be done . One of the problems, i come from florida where unfortunately our governor has refused to expand medicaid. Hes putting his partisanship over the best interests of the people in the state. There are close to a million floridians who dont have access to health care who would, so i dont want to leave it up to people like the governor of florida to decide what should be in these health policies. This bill will gut the essential Health Benefits that people rely upon and will leave it up to governors to make decisions about what to include. People will be getting less coverage. It will cost them more, and thats not a situation that serves the American People well. Thank you so much, congressman ted deutsche from florida. Thank you. Doctors are also weighing in on the health care debate, including health and Human Services secretary tom price. He believes the bill is headed in the right direction and says its actually better for doctors and patients. Its significant reform. Its a move in a much better direction, because it is a patientcentered move where patients and families and doctors will be making decisions, not washington, d. C. Lets bring in dr. Steven clasko, ceo of Thomas Jefferson university and jefferson health. Thank you for being with us. And tell us here, steve, when you look at the bcra, what do you focus in on and why . Well, richard, its great to be on. First of all, lets make this clear. This is not really repeal and replace. Its repeal, get rid of the democratic taxes and unlimited federal funding of medicaid and Hope Health Care will change. At the end of the day, this is not meaner than the house bill, its less mean. It will reduce premiums, but allow insurers to basically have much skinnier plans. So people will be left with situations where they are not covered for their problems. So what are they going to do . Well, thats the issue. Look, the problem, richard, what we have is a dollar to pay for 1. 25 worth of health care, and the Affordable Care act said well give everybody a quarter. I think the republicans are saying thats not sustainable. And now what were doing is cutting benefits and people, but were not really dealing with the fact that i think the congressman from nevada was right, that we have a fire and that things are too expensive. Best way to look at this for the republicans is like brexit. We want to get out of unlimited federal funding for medicaid, because that will break the bank. Theres hard brexit, soft brexit. Hard was the house bill, getting out right away. Soft is were going to give it a chance to phase and let the industry figure it out. Will states be ready for this, do they have the administrative capabilities . Only 11 states that currently have created their own exchanges. I dont think they do. I was in florida for nine years and we did not have Medicaid Expansion and people were cut out. In states that had Medicaid Expansion, richard, it ends up being more expensive with worse outcomes. Why . Because people get medicaid and there are doctors that dont cover medicaid, they end up in the Emergency Departments for much more expensive, much more fragmented care. So we really have to, as a country, were here in the week that amazon is buying whole foods and we still havent allowed telehealth to cross states. Imagine every atm you had to have a different card. Were living in the 90s as it relates to trying to do some of the things that would affect both the care and the cost of health care. What should we expect as those who are uninsured, what will that means if it does pass, the Senate Republican health care bill, whats it mean when i go in to see a doctor . So, if youre a younger person with moderate to high income in a state like massachusetts, where health care is affordable, it will be better for you. If youre an older lower income person in a place that health care is expensive like arizona, it will be much worse for you. But even more importantly i believe that what will happen is youll have a 26yearold woman who will say i dont need maternity benefits because i dont want to get pregnant. Then shell get pregnant in my emergency room, insurers will say shes not covered, she got a skinny plan without maternity benefits, ill take care of her, so it will be a disaster for the safety net hospitals. It will be a boon for certain insurers that can basically play with the snunumbers. Yes or no, youve spoken to some of those who put this together. I have. Yes, thats right. Was there intent from your perspective to actually help your patients or intent to have a political win . Yeah, i think its a combination of both. I think that at the end of the day, obviously, the republicans campaigned on repeal and replace. It is somewhat amazing to me they havent thought it out more, but at the end of the day i really do think secretary price has really tried to at least take the house bill, take the republican conservative, we have to get the tax cuts in there, we have to get rid of unlimited federal funding, and tried to think about certain groups of patients. The fact is, until you cut the costs of health care significantly and increase technology, youre going to have some people that fall between the cracks, and there are a lot of people that will fall between the cracks. I predict the cbo will say theres somewhere between 10 and 20 Million People affected by this. 10 and 20 compared to 23 million by the house bill. Thank you so much, steven. Thank you, richard, its been a pleasure. All righty. For our first pulse question of the day, weve been asking, agree or disagree, states should determine health care, not the federal government. Overall numbers so far, 94 disagreeing with that statement. 6 agreeing, and breaking it down by political party, republicans are neutral. Democrats and independents disagree. Actually, most disagree of all three categories. Breaking it down by age, all age groups pretty much disagreeing, 35 to 54 a little bit less. The final scoreboard for you. 6 agreeing states should determine health care, not the federal government. 94 disagreeing. Thanks for participating in that. Next, President Trump sharply criticizing his predecessor president obama over the russian hacking case. You can make your voice heard on our second pulse question of the day, agree or disagree, president obama should have done more to address russias meddling in the 2016 election. Go to pulse. Msnbc. Com america. 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Agree or disagree, president obama should have done more to address russias meddling in the 2016 election. Nbcs Kelly Odonnell at the white house. Kelly, the leader of the free world behind you working heavily on his phone there putting out a bunch of tweets. Reporter he has been sort of pivoting back and forth between tweets that relate to the Russian Investigation broadly and health care and what needs to happen in washington this week for him to get that win thats been so elusive on the legislative front, but the russia issue, boiling it down to those few words, is something that really sticks in his craw, if you will, its a stone in the president s shoe. And what is also notable about what he talked about there is that he is sort of turning this to try to say the Public Interest in this should look back into the last presidency to try to say there was evidence available to president obama, he did not act sufficiently, and theres some debate over that, and some in the obama era who say perhaps they could have done more, should have done more, but we are where we are now, and for President Trump, this is something hes picking up and running with. This was exposed through the Washington Post extensive piece, but its also notable that the president , who gets a president ial Daily Briefing and intelligence information, is now able to talk publicly about the obama time frame and learning about russian interference, but its curious what he will say in this clip from a Fox News Channel interview that hes just learning about this. Im wondering if he had it in his briefings or just saying he can publicly talk about it now, but heres what the president said in an interview that was recorded friday. I just heard today for the first time that obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he did nothing about it, but nobody wants to talk about that. If he had the information, why didnt he do something about it . He should have done something about it. Reporter well, one of the things weve heard from Obama Administration officials is they had concern about taking any action during the Election Year that might be perceived as tipping the scales towards hillary clinton, of course, the president was campaigning for her, but this was a much broader, more significant intelligence and international issue. The president s going to try to keep putting pressure back on president obama in an effort to distract from some of the questions around his own administration and contacts theyve had with russia or how hes handled the firing of james comey. Richard . Nbcs Kelly Odonnell at the white house on this sunday. Thanks, kelly. Jesse burns, associate editor at the hill and, kurt, your thought at this moment based on the responses we have heard from President Trump on the way hes doing with russia and pointing his finger at president obama for not doing enough and moving fast enough when, according to reporting, that he learned of this situation. So, its super interesting, this whole new journalistic complex were in with anonymous allegations and sourcing, its sort of at this point coming back to hurt president obama right now. I think its, you know, the president obama reportedly felt that he couldnt intercede too much on the russia matter because he would be seen as tipping the election to hillary clinton. That certainly seems like a reasonable thing that the president would think. On the other hand, it is a really good case that President Trump can bring out right now and its interesting they havent rolled it out sooner. What do you make of this here, jesse, and you heard adam schiff, the top democrat on again the House Intel Committee here looking at this and saying, hey, president obama didnt do enough. I mean, his own party, Barack Obamas own party, one of his major lieutenants, if you will, being critical of the former president and what he may have done. Its an absolutely legitimate question and i think youre going to see some kind of sniping from even democratic lawmakers who are frustrated that they are in the situation they are in now, several months into trumps presidency and they are having to still grapple with the fact that he is where he is and that these russia probes are, you know, trump has largely been dismissive of them and, you know, trying to deflect the blame to now the Obama Administration. I mean, its a double bind essentially that trump has kind of put them in. He claimed throughout the Campaign Season that the election was rigged against him by democrats and now hes going after obama for not doing enough to stop russia, you know, thats not even mentioning the fact, obviously, that the Intelligence Community believes russia intervened to help trump. I want to move on to the House Oversight committee staying on russia, of course, trey gowdy, new head of the committee saying, nope, were not going to focus on this very question thats in front of us, and you can see the headline, dems push leaders to talk less about russia. Thats a different headline, because im eluding here to trey gowdy. Whats the thought here, jesse, as to why and how that might play itself out . At some point might he do what the former chair did and was looking into . They did have an emphasis on this question . Yeah, i think that were seeing from trey gowdy, who is a former federal prosecutor, that, you know, hes moving, its a sharp contrast from Jason Chaffetz and looking at trump and russia and thats not the focus that gowdy seems to want to take with this committee now under his purview, so he has said, hes cited robert mueller, the special counsel, saying he doesnt want to step on his toes, hes going to allow any criminal prosecution or investigation to continue separate from his committee, but well see. There are several panels, obviously, already in the house and senate looking at potential ties between trump and trumps campaign, rather, and russia, and so well see if that for the House Oversight committee if theres not some pressure on them, at least the periphery to go after some of these Trump Associates who have been and reported to be under investigation. And the reports, what you were talking about, kurt, the Washington Post report, a treasuretrove of information, we have a lot of, if you will, folks leaking or giving information at very high levels. The question is, how will that then make its way back into the four investigations, plus, again, bob muellers investigation as we start a new week . Right. Those are very high level officials. Obviously, we dont know who they are, and, you know, president obama is maintaining an office in washington, youve got ex senior high level officials and current senior high level officials apparently leaking to outlets like the Washington Post and new york times. It creates a huge cloud around what mueller is trying to do. Its chaos. All right. Thank you very much, jesse burns, kurt mills. You all have a very good weekend, whats left of it, at least. Still time to make your voice heard on this question, agree or disagree, president obama should have done more to address russias meddling in the 2016 election. Go to pulse. Msnbc. Com america to let us know what you think. Later, their status as dreamers protects them from deportation, but now an Arizona Court says they are not entitled to reduced instate college tuition. Well talk to one young woman whose future is now in doubt as a result of that. Isaac hou has mastered gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. Great show. Here you go. Now hes added a new routine. Making depositing a check seem so effortless. Easy to use chase technology, for whatever youre trying to master. Isaac, are you ready . Yeah. Chase. So you can. Hidden in every swing, every chip, and every putt, is data that can make the difference between winning and losing. 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They normal issue decisions before they take their break for the summer recess, and there are a couple of big cases that were still waiting on there, and then the court could act on the travel ban request. It was something that they considered at their conference last thursday, and under the normal course of procedures we could hear something as soon as 9 30 tomorrow morning. So, ari, thats pretty early. Very busy for you, no doubt, my friend, being our chief Legal Correspondent here. Lots of options in terms of what they can do with the travel ban, right . Right, and thats partly because of the unique nature of this order. Folks may remember this was not a permanent change in immigration policy. It was set up as the sort of 90day pause, the administration had first taken the argument that it was urgent and they needed to immediately have the pause and later adjusting that for legal or practical reasons and now youre left with the debate over whether the Supreme Court wants to get into changing what the courts have done in the lower courts, which is basically pause the pause and thats why there is no travel ban in effect and whether they want to change that status quo, while waiting for the ultimate case, which is what we call the merits case, the resulting case of whether or not this can be a legal policy. Will we hear arguments, will they be hearing arguments, not us necessarily here. What do you think, amy . Well, i doubt they are going to hear arguments any time soon. The government hadnt really asked them to rush the oral arguments, and they are running out of time before their summer recess. If they wanted to hear oral arguments, they would have said so last thursday, shortly after their conference because theres such a short amount of time left before they go off on their summer vacations. They can, of course, decide to hear them in july, august, or september before they return to the bench, but as ari said, its complicated, because even if they decide they want to review the Lower Court Decision putting the travel ban on hold, theres, you know, the request for the stay and what do they do about that, the request to reinstate the ban, and if they reinstate the ban, as ari suggested, the whole thing could have run by the time they come back to hear oral arguments in the fall, so really sort of sailing in Uncharted Waters here. Right. Ari, thats a possibility. Times out. Theres that 90day time frame. Right, that was an open question the administration sought to address by basically formally amending the executive order and saying they wanted it to be interpreted they will reinstate it whenever they get the option from the courts so it wasnt muted, but this is the thing the court does sometimes, it likes to either take more time or go away. The Supreme Court does take its role seriously as kind of a last arbiter and if they think theres more time that will benefit the political working out of solutions or some other alternative, theyll usually leave that time. They are not in a rush and thats a good thing. Were a society where everyone is always in a rush, ask people how they are doing, im busy, i got to go, i have my messages. Supreme court is the last of a different cultural mood. If they can put it off a year, they often do. Speaking about patience, if you will, from the court, a full court finally. Amy, its possible you might be able to answer this question, Justice Kennedy turns 81 next month. Might Justice Kennedy retire and they dont have a full bench . Thats the 64,000 question. We started hearing rumors about a retirement, truthfully, shortly after the president ial election in november. There were two camps, one camp is, kennedy is a republican appointed by a republican president , he wants to make sure that a republican president can appoint his successor. The other camp is why would he retire now . Hes, you know, at the peak of his influence at the court. 81, not that old for a Supreme Court justice. And he, by all accounts, is in good health and having a good time. You know, i suspect that he may be one of the only other people, and his wife, who truly know. One thing to keep in mind is that when other justices recently have retired voluntarily, Justice John Paul stevens and Justice David souter, they both retired in the spring to give the senate enough time to hold hearings and have their successors be on the bench when the court returned in the fall. So, you know, i think its anyones guess at this point. But we probably will know in the next week or so. Ari, your thought on that, also got a show coming up. Ill tell you about both. Number one, if we put up on the screen the years, thats the only indicator we have. 29 years puts him in much longer than anyone else, three more than thomas and more than ginsburg at 24 years, so hes been going a long time. We have no idea. I interviewed Justice Breyer once, how do you know when to retire . I have no idea, i guess ill just know. For a lot of them that means they go a long time. Timeout, if you will. Your other question, we have ellen winetrob with a plan on russia. Special report on leaks, good, bad, and the illegal, and we have a really interesting discussion with professor jack balkin about why he argues donald trump is more of a symptom than a cause of constitutional problems in our society and its always fun to be on with amy. Scotus blog is where ill be blo logged in tomorrow. Thanks so much. All right, thank you, amy howe, ari melber. Do not miss his highly rated show the point, 5 00 tonight. Starts in about an hour and 15 minutes. Egg timer, whatever you got. For our third pulse question today, agree or disagree, the Supreme Court should decide whether to hear arguments on President Trumps travel ban before the summer recess. All right, 69 are saying you disagree. Changed a little bit there, 73 . Break it down by education, all education groups for the most part, more masters degree neutral, also neutral, then by gender, men and women, when we look at that, men and women pretty much disagree by the same numbers. And the final scoreboard number for you on this question, 37 agreeing the Supreme Court should decide whether to hear arguments on President Trumps travel ban before the summer recess. Next, a big setback for dreamers. The young undocumented people protected from deportation. An Arizona Court ruled they do not qualify for reduced instate tuition. Do you agree or disagree with this question, dreamers who pay taxes and contribute to this country should be eligible for that lower tuition. Go to pulse. Msnbc. Com america. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the Tuition Assistance program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. So thats the idea. What do you think . Hate to play devils advocate but. I kind of feel like its a game changer. I wouldnt go that far. Are you there . Hes probably on mute. Yeah. Gary wont like it. Why . Because hes gary. phone ringing what . Keep going yeah. laughs voice on phone its not millennial enough. There are a lot of ways to say no. Thank you so much. Thank you so were doing it. Yes start saying yes to your companys best ideas. Let us help with money and knowhow, so you can get business done. American express open. So you can get business done. The toothpaste that helps new parodontax. Prevent bleeding gums. If you spit blood when you brush or floss you may have gum problems and could be on the journey to much worse. Help stop the journey of gum disease. Try new parodontax toothpaste. Tuition is expected to skyrocket for thousands of socalled dreamers in the state of arizona. State court of appeals decided tuesday they are not eligible for instate tuition. Tuition at Arizona State university, the states largest public university, thats about 10,000 a year for instate residents, compared to more than 26,000 for nonresidents. That could make Higher Education, as you can see there, unaffordable for thousands of undocumented immigrants who came here as children, brought here by their parents. President obama created the daca program to prevent them from being deported, but their legal status remains in limbo under the current administration, which brings us to the fourth question of the hour, do you agree or disagree, dreamers that pay taxes and contribute to this country should be eligible for reduced instate tuition . Lets bring in a dreamer and a senior at Arizona State university. What does this mean for you . So, what this ruling means, is that if it is implemented, all of the daca students in arizona are going to have their tuition tripled, and right now it is already hard enough for us to find scholarships, financial aid, or grants, because we are not eligible for those. That means that the majority of students who have daca will probably be driven out of school and not able to have Higher Education be accessible to them in arizona. Whats your plan, what are you going to do . So, right now im not entirely sure what i will personally do, but i do know that our mission as undocumented students for Education Equity at asu is to combat this so it is not implemented and final. Our number one agenda item is to fight this ruling. We are grateful to the Maricopa County Community Colleges board for making the decision to give instate tuition to dreamers and we hope they will continue this case. Right now what were asking is, when will it be enough . When will you stop attacking daca students in arizona . When will you stop wasting taxpayer money on attacking innocent kids who just want to go to school . And so to attorney general and the governor, we are telling them get your priorities straight, because right now arizona is 48th in the nation for education, so you would think that they would want to actually invest in education for the future of arizona instead of attacking students who just want to get their college degree. And their argument, and youve heard it before, they are saying were building this institution of education for u. S. Citizens and, therefore, those who are not should pay out of state, and its sort of the way that they are, if you will, splitting the difference. So, what i always tell those who say that, you know, what about the citizens of this country, if Daca Recipients pay instate tuition and want to get an education, that takes nothing away from those who are citizens and want to get an education, as well, and the reason why is because we are taxpayers and we pay tuition. We are not going to school for free. We actually have all the cards stacked against us as they are making our eligibility for scholarships unavailable. We cannot receive grants. We cannot receive financial aid, so it is actually ten times harder for us already, and they are trying to make it even harder. So, everyone deserves to get an education. Its a basic right. Belen, would you consider going to another state where you might be able to establish residency and finish out your degree . I will not do that. I will stay here, because this is, arizona, is where im needed. It is my home. It is the home of thousands of other Daca Recipients and well continue to fight for the basic right of education, even if it costs us tooth and nail to continue to combat these oppressive and discriminatory policies that governor doocy and the attorney general have been advocating for. Whats been the reaction on your Facebook Page . You became of note, shall i say, when you came out and you were writing about your experience as a dreamer, and you got a lot of very mixed, shall we say, opinions. So, i mean, my reaction to it is more people need to be informed. That is the whole reason why i made that viral post about me paying taxes, because the majority of the public doesnt know that undocumented people do pay taxes and that you dont need a Social Security number to do so. And the reaction that i got was some bad, but it was definitely a lot more good. And the reason why, is because so many people opened their eyes and realized these people are here because they just want a better life and because they actually contribute to our country, no matter where it is they came from, and before we are immigrants, we are also human beings, and human beings deserve basic rights, like being able to live in a clean environment, like being able to have the basic right to an education, and that we are not here as just free loaders or trying to take something away, because we actually put into the system, and they benefit from immigrants being here by paying taxes. We basically keep this economy going. We keep Social Security going. If all of us just disappeared one day, this entire country would probably fall apart. Belen sisa, thank you so much, and good luck on your degree. Thank you. All right, agree or disagree, dreamers who pay taxes and contribute to the country should be eligible for reduced instate tuition . Go to pulse. Msnbc. 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Thats our final, by the way, pulse of America Program here on msnbc. We hope you enjoyed it. Thanks for sticking around with us. We want to thank you for participating every sunday and telling us your opinions. Much more news for you at the top of the hour. A crucial week ahead for health care and the u. S. Will Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell have the votes before the fourth of july recess . Were both stuck in this cube farm and youre about to hit send all on some embarrassing gas. Hey, you bought gasx® unlike antacids, gasx ® relieves pressure and bloating fast. Huh, crisis averted. Gave us the power to turn this enemy into an ally . Microsoft and its partners are using smart traps to capture mosquitoes and sequence their dna to fight disease. There are over 100 million pieces of dna in every sample. With the microsoft cloud, we can analyze the data faster than ever before. If we can detect new viruses before they spread, we may someday prevent outbreaks before they begin. 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