Realities. Democrats are dealing with the evidence provided by witnesses under oath while republicans are spouting conspiracy theories and using their playbook, which includes throwing mud on the process, the evidence, and the witnesses. The huge contrast was on full display this past wednesday and friday as diplomats collided with congressional members over the dueling narratives each side was trying to prove. Last week next week, i should say, should prove to be even more dramatic as the process continues full steam ahead with potential fireworks coming when gordon sondland, the u. S. Ambassador to the european nation. One person who wont be on that stage, former matches governor patrick who declared his candidacy for the nomination this week. But we start with the latest analysis on the impeachment drama this week in washington. Joining me now, republican strategist and msnbc analyst susan del percio and david brock, chairman of the american bridge 21st century, a Democratic Political organization. But first, breaking news. Minutes ago we got fresh new transcripts from the joint depositions of Deputy Assistant to the president Timothy Morrison and Vice President pences special adviser on europe and russia, Jennifer Williams. According to congressman adam schiff, the testimony shows that President Trumps july 25th phone call with ukrainian president zelensky immediately set off alarm bells throughout the white house. Both witnesses provided the committees with firsthand accounts after personally listening to the call in the white house situation room. Joining us now for the latest, nbc News White House correspondent mike viqueira. Mike, what can you tell us . Good evening, al. Youre right, that testimony from gordon sondland, the eu ambassador, is mentioned in these transcripts at the center of these allegations that have led to the dramatic hearings this week. Lets start with Jennifer Williams and the transcripts that were released an hour ago by the Intelligence Committee in the house of representatives. Well start with jennifer weapons , that top aide on europe and russia to Vice President pence who was on that july 25th call. She says the call in her view was more political in nature, so it struck me as unusual and inappropriate. She further testified that i guess for me it shedlight on possible other motivations behind a Security Assistance hold. That, of course, refers to that 400 million that was held allegedly because President Trump wanted president volodymyr zelensky, the newly elected president of ukraine to go before cameras and call for an investigation into the bidens and burisma. Now lets talk about tim morrison who succeeded fiona hill, another transcript that was released, succeeded her as the Top National Security council aid on russia and europe. His testimony according to the transcript, some of this was already known, but in short order after that pivotal july tad call between the two president s, he thought the contents would leak and he was concerned how the contents would be used in washingtons political process, but he said he did not have auto view on whether the call was proper. It did not focus as much on what i heard it would focus on, which was president zelenskys reform agenda, talking again about that call. Then he talks about a meeting on september 1st, a meeting in warsaw around another european summit meeting. He witnessed a conversation between the eu ambassador, gordon sondland, and a top aide to president zelensky, andriy yermak. Sondland told tim morrison after that meeting what could help the cannes move that aid, that 400 million is if the prosecutor general in the Ukrainian Government would go to the mic and ask that he was opening the burisma investigation. So a lot more on that alleged quid pro quo. I know thats a term that democrats dont want to be using anymore. What theyre terming bribery now as revealed in these transcripts that have been released now. Prerc there was testimony from another Administration Official today. This individual named mark sandy testifying, just leaving an hour ago. This person from the omb is the one that conveyed to other agencies that that 400 million in military aid to the right russian irregulars, that that aid was on hold allegedly because the president wanted that investigation announced by president zelensky before cameras. Reverend al . Many thanks to you, nbcs mike viqueira. Id like to turn back to my panel. Susan, now these transcripts just released an hour ago, you have williams saying that it seemed more political. You have morrison saying that trpgit did not deal with president zelensky would do. Doesnt this further help the democrats case . It does. And its also furthering the narrative. I think that the democrats, adam schiff has been very wise in having a beginning, a middle, and an end. The beginning was setting up the stage. Thats what we heard from tdipl. Now were going to hear how the functioning goes. Omb releases the money, its a boring process, but thats where u to go to get the money released. Who oversees that . The president s acting chief of staff, mulvaney, who wont testify front of the congress. And then it will be wrapped up in a bow from people who were on the call. Thats been very good. The republicans have nowhere to go. It was clear from the first day of testimony. Its clear today. They dont have a narrative to counter what happened, which is the president sought to have political gain using taxpayer dollars to pay ransom to zelensky so he could not let his people could i on the border against russia. David, the president has several witnesses that said implicit implicitly and explicitly f he held that money and used that as a way to say to president zelensky and ukraine, youve got to publicly announce an investigation on my potential opponent, is that not an abuse of power . Is that not bribery or extortion . Absolutely, it is abuse of power and i think it is bribery. The constitution envisioned this bribery kind of charge. So i think what comes through these recent testimony that we heard today and through week is the National Security implications of this. Neither the nixon or clinton impeachment had to do with National Security. They started wednesday saying this was boring and hearsay. That prompted david holmes to come out friday and said he had firsthand evidence. And then just as the ratings were so good on wednesday and democrats were nervous, on friday President Trump starts tweeting. That makes the hearing incredibly riveting, and then everyone tunes in. So they dont have a narrative and the Public Education aspect of this is all on the democratic side. And the upside is more people are going to be appalled by not only the abuse of power and the bribery, but the National Security implications. Now, susan, friday, witnesses understand, former ambassador forced out of her job, dignified in many ways, ambassador yovanovitch was the perfect reasonable witness with credentials going back to the reagan administration, whien sh served in government. The president starts tweeting what she felt was intimidating the tweet disparaged her record and career as a diplomat for the state department. Later Intel Committee chair adam schiff read the tweet to her and then ill show you what happened in the exchange with schiff and the witness. Now the president in real time is attacking you. What effect do you think that has on other witnesses willingness to come forward and suppose wrongdoing . Well, its very intimidating. Designed to intimidate, is it not . I mean, i cant speak to what the president is trying to do, but i think the effect is to be equipmenting. Now, when ambassador yovanovitch says its intimidating and the president is doing this as shes testifying, we see even on fox news brett and chris wall strac taking the other side. Politically doesnt this start to say to some of the republican senators, wait a minute, we better start moon walking backwards because our constituents watch fox news and they seem to be taking an adverse position. Even ken starr, who was part of the clinton impeachment was on fox news saying, whoa, he didnt do this on the advice of counsel. Thats what republicans in the house and senate are so concerned about. They dont know what happens next with this president. The man has no discipline. He cannot control himself. If he hears his name or thinks he can make himself look good or someone else look bad, he will do it and not think of the consequences, which is not what you want from a president. Right. Its also what scares the elected officials because they dont know what else is out there. They are scared to death of sondlands testimony because he was there, he had the conversation with the president. A lot of people think that sondland even though hes had a little trouble with his testimony and had to rework it a big, hes not going to lie for the president. Thats for sure. Hes no roger stone. Is sondland the one that could really begin the end for this . Also the lets say the effort to try to get john bolton, who could also be vital in this, david. Right. I think bolton could be critical, but for the next week all eyes will be on sondland because theres drama and the fact that he changed his story. Two, it will be interesting to see what the republicans do. Theyve been acting as the Defense Attorneys for trump rather than as finders of fact. Will they try to smear sondland and say hes lying now. Its much more credible that he changed his mind or had better memory because on wednesday what he is will be consistent with what everybody else said, which there was a bribery here. Now, if you are in the senate, youre a republican, though you clearly are not one that the siding with the president on these matters and others. If you were a republican senator or an adviser to one, wouldnt about you nervous now, particularly if youre one of the 20 some odd senate seats that are up that you are now being asked to walk the plank and maybe destroy your political career if youre too close to an unpredictable, undisciplined president . Yes. What i would advise him to say is i am a potential juror and i will not comment, and thats the best they can do. All right. Well have more with suzanne and caved later in the show. Coming up, my next guest was one of the first members of congress to call for the impeachment and removal of President Trump. Representative Yvette Clarke of brooklyn is next. First, my colleague richard lui with todays top news stories. Thanks, rev. Stories were watching for you this hour, former nfl quarterback Colin Kaepernick is wrapping up workouts for at least 11 teams today. The 32yearold remains in the headlines. You might remember him from 2016, though, for kneeling during the National Anthem to protest systematic racism. The action ladyled to intense backlash, including President Donald Trump who tweeted his criticism of kaepernick and other athletes taking a knee. Many, however, are expressing concern about todays workouts saying its only a publicity stunt to help the nfls image. 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And the public is responding, theyre on capitol hill, press is on capitol hill. So were very, very aware, acutely aware of the historic moment that were in. Now, when you say were very aware of the moment that were in, you were one of the first members of congress to call for impeachment. Do you feel like the proceedings so far has leaned toward justifying your position and others that were early on this that were told this is a witch hunt when we have obviously people that are testifying that whomever this whistleblower was was saying something that was reality . Absolutely. Reverend al, i feel extremely justified in taking the position that i have. This is what were experiencing right now, is something that doesnt fas smell test. And i felt very early on that the election that was held in 2016 didnt fas smell test. The bottom line to it is that we know there was russian interference, and here we are again seeking International Interference. Donald trump is seeking International Interference in the 2020 election. Because at the end of the day if hes asking for a public announcement of an investigation, not even saying it has to lead to a conviction or theres ed, Just Announced the investigation, that would be enough to smear his opponent and affect on elections. And weve seen that same play in the last election, right . So it was very important that we got to this impeachment inquiry because we do not want to see a repeat of what took place in 2020. And beyond that, donald trump is not above the law. He has brought in a culture of corruption that goes wide and deep at the federal government at this stage. Its our responsibility to bring this to light for the American People to see, that indeed theres been a massive breach of our constitution. I want to show you something. Adam schiff spoke earlier today in california and commented on just how dangerous he believes the president is. Take a listen. There is nothing more dangerous than an unethical president who believes that he is above the law. Your response is almost like he was hearing you in advance. Its true because our National Security is at risk. The other thing we found about donald trump is when he wants to distract from his personal concerns, he will do anything in terms of deflecting. That could mean attacking a certain segment of the population, witnesses that are giving their testimony. He does so many things to distract and they oftentimes end up being things that harm people. We have to look at this at multiple levels because, indeed, our National Security is at risk. Our domestic tranquility is at risk. Ukraine was under direct threat from russia. Let me take you off the hill for a minute. In your district in brooklyn, are people talking about this . Do you think the public is engaged in this impeachment inquiry to the degree that you and others in the congress and in the senate are saying, wait a minute, we need to be cautious here . Reverend, there is not a place that i dont go to in my district where someone is walking up to me saying impeach him. Theyre very in tune with whats going on, whether its in church, the supermarket, a community meeting. People are very concerned because the 9th Congressional District sitsz in the bullseye of just about every meanspirited and cruel policy that the Trump Administration has pursued. So they are very conscious of whats taking place in the white house. If the house impeaches about this, which seems likely, he has to be tried in the senate. Do you think that the public involvement, the public watching this, will put enough pressure that you could move some republicans and there could possibly be a conviction . Or is that beyond the realm of even possibility. Were going to put all the facts on the table. Thats the important thing. Were going to do our job in the house and make sure that the American People are able to follow methodically each step of the way. Because what we are presenting to the American People is a breach of their trust, a breach of our laws, and its important that we get this before the American People. I think they are following, and i think they will hold the senate accountable. All right, congresswoman Yvette Clarke, thank you for coming. Coming up, new numbers out of trumps own administration show that maybe hes not making America Great again. After all, all this ill explain next. We made usaa insurance for members like kate. A former army medic, made of the flexibility to handle whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. So when her car got hit, she didnt worry. She simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said. I got this. Usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it easy. 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With a scheduled perhaps one National Security council official who was on the line for trumps call with the ukrainian president , his testimony could be troubling for republicans who have criticized democrats for not yet presenting a witness who firsthand knowledge of that call. For more on what to expect from these hearings in the week ahead, im joined by democratic congressman Ruben Gallego of arizona who is a member of the Armed Service committee. Congressman, what do you think we will hear this week from these upcoming witnesses . First of all, thank you, rendere reverend, for having me on the show. Youre certainly going to hear more direct knowledge and actual realtime evidence that this president did conduct Foreign Policy that was going to benefit himself by trying to pressure the Ukrainian Government to start bogus investigations on his rivals. Now, the first argument we heard from the republicans was denial, that he didnt do it. Then it shifted to if he did it, it doesnt rise to an Impeachable Offense. In your judgment, why does this rise to an Impeachable Offense if, in fact, theres direct testimony that they heard it, this is what he said, and they actively stalled or blocked military aid that congress had approved to ukraine, who was under threat, by the way, from russia, and was an ally to this country. Why does that rise to an Impeachable Offense . Remember i was advocating to getting this aid to ukraine. We knew they were in such a bad, dire situation. Actually in the constitution bribery is one of the actual terms that is falls under the causes for impeachment, high crimes, misdemeanors, bribery. This president was trying to hold out on a contractual agreement we entered into with ukraine saying we were going to provide them with aid, but before that, you need to do us a favor. That is trying to get a bribe, and, therefore, that is a violation. Number two, under high crimes and misdemeanors, which is a nebulous term, i believe abuse of power is important. This president has used his position that we empower as United States citizens with all the full backing of government and the reputation of it, and he has abused that powers for his own personal gain to extort another country. That, i think, also falls within high crimes and misdemeanors and that is an Impeachable Offense. Theres also a lot of interest on how the president and those that operate under his direct supervision stalled this military aid that had been approved. Is that not also something that is really putting us at a National Security risk, being that were dealing with an ally that if they were in some way attacked or fell, it would bring the soviet union back together as a soviet union after crimea. But the question becomes the stalling o or stopping of the funds in and of itself should be a major concern . It should be a major concern. Is it stalling for 55 days is dangerous in the sense that it makes our allies not trust whether we are going to follow through with our word. So ukraine signed the National Defense act and they just waited and waited and waited. Whenever we operate in other parts of the world, youre going to have other countries, our allies, and sometimes our enemies are going to be questioning whether or not we have a cohesive Foreign Policy. The president basically threw both the Ukrainian Government under the bus, but also he threw congress on the bus, basically making us look weak and feeble when we had appropriated monies to fight the russian government. Again, this links it to an abuse of power, in my opinion. That is in my opinion an Impeachable Offense. More breaking news today regarding the new details regarding the closeddoor testimony by david holmes. The u. S. Embassy staffer in ukraine who says he overheard the president s phone call with ambassador gordon sondland. According to his Opening Statement obtained by nbc news, holmes said, quote, i then heard President Trump ask, so hes gonna do the investigation, question mark. Ambassador sondland replied that hes going to do it, adding that president zelensky will do, quote, anything you ask him to. But today, look how house Intel Committee member jim jordan is brushing it off. You got some guy who overheard a phone call. Im sure hell be a witness next week and well get a chance to question him there. How do you react to that and how disturbed is what holmes is saying . How disturbing is that to you and your colleagues . I think those what actually have a soul and still believe in checks and balances, thats very few and far people on the republican side, are going to be very disturbed. That sounds like a mob shakedown that just happened. The fact that sondland lied under oath to congress should really concern him. We are about to throe in jail roger stone for lying to congress. So someone is going to have to come next week and testify and explain to us how he may have forgotten this information because now well have multiple witnesses that can point to this conversation. Dont take anything that jim jordan says seriously. Hes not a serious congressional congressman. Hes only here to be a rubber stamp for the president. Hes really a joke of a member of congress, and we have to stop trying to treat him as if he has any truth. Didnt they change him over just for these proceedings, jim jordan im talking about. Absolutely. He is a walking human hand grenade. He wants to blow up the whole proceedings, asking for point of of orders, knowing the established rules of how we conduct these investigations have been going on for the last ten years. Again, i hope the press ignores him and realizes hes just a fool of a congressman and we should not be taking anything he says seriously in this committee. All right. Congressman gallego, thank you for coming tonight. 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The race will have a dramatic change come december into january, which is if donald trump is impeached in the house, the trial goes to the senate, and youre going to have five u. S. Senators who are running for president stay with washington. Theyre tethered to their chairs. For the trial. For the trial. So Duvall Patrick making this move doesnt seem crazy to me all of a sudden because theres an opening in the field if you look at it. Amy klobuchar and cory booker and Kamala Harris could really fall apart without being in iowa or campaigning for three, four, five weeks at the least. Wow. That opens a door for Duvall Patrick. Im not saying thats why we decided to jump in. Iowa caucus is early february, so they miss four or five weeks, theyre out of contact, which iowa is definitely a contact political sport. It does give room. Thats an interesting theory there. That is. So i think the question is how big is the moderate lean in the Democratic Party . Youve got biden, youve got mayor pete who in the last debate kind of found his voice and saw an opportunity to move into that space. Basically i think Duvall Patrick may have a chance here. Its a challenge, but money, word on the street is hes going to have a super pac and post some big dollars there. A theory of where he could win, that would be new hampshire. And then hes got to have a Diverse Coalition. By the time you get to South Carolina, he could be positioned for that. So it will be interesting to see how big that moderate lane is. Now, the reason he got in is i think theres a fear that biden is a little bit of a shaky frontrunner, that pete cant necessarily put that Diverse Coalition together, and that warren and sanders are too far left for the general election. Now, how do you feel the republicans say trump is still there in november, hes not convicted, and hes in office. Who do you think gives the republicans the worst opportunity to retain the white house . Probably that moderate lane, whether it be biden, buttigieg, maybe Duvall Patrick. But its at the point, this whole thing will be played out in the suburbs, rev. Unless you put, like, Elizabeth Warren, suburbanites dont want their private health care taken away. They do not not wants Free College Tuition and health care for people in this country illegal and they dont want to see their taxes go up because of a 52 trillion spending plan. They can lose suburban voters if its an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or someone ultra progressive like that. How far left should the democrats go . How far left has the country gone . Former president obama said be careful, dont go too left. How do you yeah, well i was at t last night where president obama spoke to a group of democrats and he absolutely said, you know, people dont want crazy stuff. The average democratic voter who has Health Insurance wants to keep it. Some of the things susan just said. So he was putting out a warning there. The issue is where the democratic primary is. Now, president obama said, you know, people arent ready for revolution and they want calm and steady progress. But in the democratic primary and in that room last night, there were some people who wanted revolution. So this is the contest thats going to have to play out. Now, new report from politico claims that Kamala Harris campaign is quote, in meltdown and most of the blame being on her campaign manager. How do you respond . And what would Deval Patricks race do to her or cory booker . Or liz warren, who is a fellow resident of massachusetts and is one that clearly can appeal to new hampshire. Well, a campaign falling apart is usually not due to just one person. But Kamala Harris did get a big endorsement today. United farm workers. Yep. And that definitely shows some some credibility to her campaign. But, again, i cant help but think if she her Campaign Strategy is to move to iowa. She cant do that if she has to be in d. C. So i think that will hurt her quite a bit. And, again, i think Deval Patrick has an opportunity. Even if he came in third or fourth in iowa, even fifth, that places him in looking at South Carolina in a very good place. Because, again, youre going to have several of these candidates who cant be there to campaign. David, handicap the race for me as susan just did. Well, i think youve got biden as a frontrunner still. But warren, right in there. I think in iowa, youve got pete surging, which is a really interesting story. When you move to new hampshire, you know, most of the polls have sanders in the lead there. So basically, what the fear of the Democratic Party right now is that you could have four or five candidates each getting 14 or 15 . And because theyre going to have money to do it. I mean, raised 10 million last quarter. Buttigieg has a ton of cash on hand. So does warren, sanders, and biden. I mean, not as much but what happens in a broken convention, david . Thats a mess i think. Theres only one person who could broker it i think. No but i think the only person who can handle a brokered convention for the democrats is president obama and i dont see him wanting to do that. He wont want to do it. Well, its going to be an interesting next few its going to have to be something who can emerge, who can unify the party. That will be the test i think. And i dont know who that is. All right. Susan and david, always good to have you with us. And a reminder, msnbc and the Washington Post are cohosting the next democratic debate in atlanta. Thats this wednesday, november 20th, at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Man make sure to tune in and watch. Coming up, my final thoughts. Stay with us. 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This past thursday, the National Action network, a civil rights organization, held its annual legislative policy conference in washington where several hundred people from around the country that are leaders of that group heard from 25 members of the senate in congress on legislation. It is not enough just to protest and we do that if you dont lead to real change and real change is you must have demonstration toward legislation. And they discussed and they gave details on all kinds of legislation from hate crimes to dealing with economic empowerment, to criminal Justice Reform to mass incarceration to reparations to healthcare. On and on and on. That those delegates or those that attended should go home and push their elected officials toward achieving. It is important that we understand that real change uses the drama sometime the protest to lead to fundamental change. It was interesting i left washington that day and spoke that night in birmingham, alabama, for the Alabama State m missionary baptist convention. I landed in Fred Shuttleworth airport. Fred shuttleworth is the one that led the birmingham movement. It led to the 64 civil rights act. It led there after we saw fire hoses water down children. We saw four little girls eventually were bombed in a church in sunday school one morning. But the victory was the civil rights act. And history awards those that will stand up even if its unpopular, even if theyre attacked. I thought about that when i landed in Fred Shuttlesworth airport. Who would have thought that in 63 when they were marching and facing biting dogs and water hoses in birmingham that the airport would be named after reverend shuttlesworth who led that fight locally in birmingham. There is no who was the sheriff that put the water hose out. Theres no airport. There is one for those that stand up and stand up for whats right. That does it for me. Thank you for watching. Ill see you back here tomorrow at 5 00 p. M. Eastern for another live edition of plpolitics nation. Up next, my colleague richard lui picks up our coverage with more of todays impeachment news. Hello. Im richard lui at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. Thanks for being with us tonight. We begin this hour with some breaking news. Hundreds of pages of testimony, transcripts just released two hours ago from two key figures in the impeachment inquiry. Both were on the call that started the impeachment inquiry. Both of these individuals will be giving public testimony tuesday. Jennifer williams. She is a special advisor to Vice President mike pence. She listened in on the president s july 25th phone call. Telling investigators in these transcripts that the call was quote, unusual and inappropriate. And that it shed light on possible other motivations behind a hold on Security Assistance to ukraine. And why house advisor tim morrison, the second individual who we now have transcripts for from his testimony