More on that, though, in a moment. Also, tensions were already high between the black community and police in detroit on a hot summer night in 1967. We will take a look at a New Historical thriller out this week telling that story, its called detroit. But we start with the latest in the investigation into russias involvement in the 2016 elections. Joining me now is jason johnson, Political Editor of the root and professor at morgan state university. Jason, a lot of talk this week about leaks, the attorney general going very high profile and aggressive in announcing we are going after the leaks, that this is, quote, a culture of leaks and they wont tolerate it, even suggesting that they wanted to look again at how and what they can do to media people or people in the press that talk to people that provide them with leaks. I mean, what are we looking at here this week and where are we in this investigation . Well, we are looking at the continuing march forward of an attempted authoritarian regime. You know, rev, the only thing that we can be comfortable with as americans is the shear incompetence of this administration that they havent been more effective in implementing the sort of bit by bit destruction of democracy that people like steve bannon are seeking and Jeff Sessions are complicity in attempting to create. The leaks, as to what or how that information got out about President Trump and his conversations, we have absolutely no idea. And the administration has every right to be curious about those things. But they are so hypocritical when it comes to leaks that its hard to take their threats, its hard to take their concerns as anything other than a shadow attempt to suppress the press. When leaks help the Trump Campaign in 2016 he had no problem with it. When leaks now reveal the cracks within his administration and their inability to handle even the most basic of tasks suddenly they are a problem. Its those very same leaks that might lead us to one day understand what role, if any, russia had in implementing this administration and helping it to continue. Those are the two things that cause the most concern to me. One, of course, the hypocrisy because they had no problem with leaks as you clearly stated when it benefited their particular politics and agenda, but secondly, what is being leaked they are not addressing. We are talking about undermining voting in this country and voters with misinformation. And rather than seeming to be concerned that people are being unfairly and right. In many ways duped with misinformation, which should be an outrage to all of us, theyre more worried about who told than what is being told and what may have transpired. And, rev, i will add to that. You know, part of what makes this problematic and russia and then sort of the behavior of this administration in some respects are two different things. Look, mueller put together a grand jury because obviously they think that something wrong has happened, whether it has to do with President Trump himself or has to do with his children or has to do with associates, this investigation has been going on since 2015 so thats going to continue. But this notion of leaks and how they want to connect that to russia, the issue is we already know that the Trump Administration itself has attempted to leak information, false information in the past, and attempt to trap the press. So its extremely troubling that we have an administration that is so incapable of doing the basic running of the government that theyre concerned with beating up the press, putting out some sort of false narrative rather than pushing forth the agenda that the minority of the country that put them into office claims that they want. Pardon me, maybe im mistaken, but isnt this also where there were meetings with people that told them on emails to donald trump junior we will give you information from russians themselves about Hillary Clinton . I mean, and you are going to cry about leaks when you were seeking to meet with people from the adversarial country that promised you information . But why clutter the issue with facts. Thank you, jason johnson. To continue this discussion i want to bring in msnbc political analyst elise jordan, a former adviser to senator rand pauls campaign and columnist for time and of course tara dardell a democratic strategist and former apprentice contestant. Elise, how do we really get all hyped up and all out of ourselves with concern when were being told by people who on the record sought information by leaks from people from russia, whatever other means, that now all of a sudden they want to come down on the culture of leaks . I mean, can we really understand why a lot of American People are saying, well, wait a minute now, you cant have it both ways . Well, its incredibly hypocritical, but are we really surprised . This was the president asked in a press conference last summer, he said, please, give me russia, give me Hillary Clintons missing emails. So really the behavior isnt a surprise at all. What im most interested in was the friday report from the New York Times saying that mueller was looking into former National Security adviser shortest tenure in 24 days mike flynns financial dealings with the turkish government. That is really a Significant Development that they are actually getting documents from the white house and looking into specific wrongdoing. And this investigation is going to go on for a while, but it certainly seems like there is something there given the team that mueller has assembled. Now, tara, the politics of this, clearly we dont know where the investigation will go, you can have long investigations that go nowhere, you can have long investigations that go somewhere. Well see. But the politics of this, we see the president went to west virginia, we see his base being rallied to support him, and a lot of what the attorney general sessions says is really more toward the politics of the base than really having any legal bearing because i dont know what they would do more about trying to find out who the leaks are and how far they could really go in trying to stifle the press in reality. Is this more about just trying to galvanize your base and keep them intact because there has been some erosion in the polls with some of the white male vote that was with President Trump. Well, there are a few things going on. Number one, to your point, Jeff Sessions is playing politics and one of the main reasons is because he had fallen out of Donald Trumps good graces. So he saw this sort of rhetoric around im going to crack down on these leaks as a mechanism or a means to get back into the good graces an audience of one, donald trump. Exactly. What he doesnt want is for donald trump to keep taking shots at him on twitter and diminishing him publicly, which donald trump was doing. As you can see when he announced this sort of crackdown on leaks, when he announced the affirmative action hes going to pursue cases of discrimination against white people, when he announced those things trump responded positively to those. Secondarily to your point, the base. The base wants to hear these things because donald trump has done an amazing job of playing into this sort of victim mentality that many in the base have, that they are the true victims and they are aggrieved and they need to be made whole. So thats number one. The other piece of that is the base really, really you know, responded to anything that was geared towards attacking minorities. So for some in the base, a big part of it is just pure racism, right . Thats what he ran on. Right. At least he ran with dog whistles. You are not doing what you could be doing. You are not living at the level that you could. Your dreams could come true if it wasnt for them. Theyre taking your dogs, theyre coming across the border dealing with the things you should have. It was the birther politics that he emerged from. That is Donald Trumps political mantra is them, they, they, they, those over there, and thats what they played this week. Well, rev, i mean, you certainly know as well as anyone this is not New Territory for donald trump. Absolutely. You look at the 1980s and he took out a full page ad in the New York Times accusing five young men of murder and saying that they should be executed. I mean, this is not someone who has any moral high ground when it comes to just basic issues of human decency. I had marches on his office about that. I think people dont understand, elise, what you just said, and tara, he comes out of a lot of the racial tone of new york. Youve got to study the 80s and 90s in new york to understand the tone that he nationalized. People think the movement was just in the 60s. New york and the Northern Movement is where you got donald trump from learning how to play dog whistles. Ive got to go. Thank you both. Elise jordan and tara dardell. Coming up, marching for justice in our nations capitol, this time religious leaders of all faiths are talking and taking the lead. 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Among those thousand ministers marching joining me now is the reverend k. W. Tullis miss for of the wella Street Baptist Church in los angeles and rabbi jonah pestner director of the religious Action Center of reform judaism. Let me go first to you, rabbi. One of the striking things about 54 years ago when dr. King and others marched is it was inter denominational, it was interracial. You and i talked by phone, i remember as a kid, i was too young to go to the march, i was about nine years old, but as a kid when i did become involved in the movement at 13 i met rabbi Abraham Heshel who marched with dr. King in selma. So when we have this march today raising issues about maintaining the dream across the board, its very important that we do that across denominational, religious and even ethnic lines as you and others are coming on board saying the dream has nothing to do with how one practices their faith, its the moral code that we need to emphasize for the whole country. Thats right, reverend al. Thanks so much for having me. I will be honored to march with you to commemorate the i have a dream speech. What ran lie heshel said when he came back from selma with dr. King was that it was as if he was praying with his legs. So, reverend sharpton, you and i and the other ministers and the imams and the rabbis, we will be marching and praying with our legs. This is not a nostalgia march, we are marching to protect and dee firsthand the dream which for too many dream has become a nightmare with mass incarceration, Voter Suppression, people afraid of losing their healthcare benefits. Its important that we march, but that we march for the dream, getting protected for the future, not just nostalgia for the past. Reverend tullis it is not a nostalgia march because we saw when President Trump came in Office President obama had put the bust of dr. King in the oval office, President Trump said im going to keep the bust in, but im adding winston churchill, but did he put the dream out, because in the dream of dr. King he talked about Voting Rights, which is now under siege, he talked about poverty which we are really clearly dealing with as the rabbi just referred to, and he talked about criminal justice reform, he talked about the idea of healthcare. Dr. King said that in the speech. All of this is in danger right now, so this thousand ministers march is to say, wait a minute, you cant commemorate the dreamer and kill the dream. Youre so right, rev. Again, august 28th countless ministers are coming beyond the walls of the church to really, really focus on the needs of our community. These last seven months has been dismal. Many of our many of the policies that are being proposed are aimed at cutting the cutting down on the backs of our members. And its very important, again, for us as religious leaders to reach out beyond the walls and the press and to make this administration know that our members are at stake. This is why were here. Were there representing our people. We are there to let the folks know that we are there with them and we want this administration to take notice that, hey, this is important. You are messing with peoples lives and we recognize that everything is at stake and thats what we plan to do august 28th. You know, rabbi, when i look at the fact that you referred to mass incarceration, when i look at when we see the continued cases of Police Brutality that all of us support good policing, but that we are not dealing with the bad police as well as the fact that this attorney general has said im even questioning consent decrees, i look at our colleagues in the naacp this week talking about a travel warning for the state of missouri because of any number of situations with black motorists in the state of missouri, and yet in the midst of all of this i look one morning and ministers are in the oval office laying hands on President Trump and praying and saying god bless him and strengthen him in what hes doing without questioning what hes doing. Thats why i think some other faith leaders need to come and say we are not here to condemn the president , but we are here to uplift justice and fairness while yall are blessing this, lets look at what is going on. Thats right. And i would say first of all, as you know, im a proud board member of the naacp, which is the oldest and the largest Civil Rights Organization in america, and with a long history of jewish involvement, and we all ought to be concerned when the naacp state conference in missouri issues a travel warning. This is a state where 75 more likely to be pulled over by Law Enforcement if youre black than if youre white. And, you know, we need to be concerned. We need to be concerned that we have 2. 3 million souls incarcerated in america, more than any other country in the world, and if you are a black man you have a one in three chance of going to prison, whereas if you are a white man you have a 1 in 17 chance. That is an inequality an enduring racism that must be addressed. So when we march on august 28th we are going to be truly marching for that dream and to hold our elected officials accountable, as you said. By the way, i have great hope because we proved over the last few weeks with Healthcare Access when folks across lines of difference, people of faith, muslims, christians, jews, civil rights advocates, healthcare advocates, when they mobilized across the country in all 50 states and put pressure on the United States senate, with he protected and defended Healthcare Access for millions of americans. So we can do this, reverend al. Reverend tullis you have been on the front line with me and others from Staten Island with eric garner case to ferguson to Voting Rights, in selma recommemorating that and fighting these voter id laws, you worked with what i call the coming new guard of National Action network and other legacy organizations. At this point the Critical Issues have not really been tackled by the Faith Community, the faith leaders and weve seen it appear that the evangelicals who are more to the right have spoken for the church. Will august 28th begin to change that and really raise the profile of those in the Faith Community that are more progressive and more in line with the teachings of a dr. Martin luther king or dr. Ralph abernathy. I really believe, rev, this march on august 28th there do that. When we talk about the civil rights challenges of our time from healthcare to income equality to poverty, again, who are speaking for our community . And its up to us as faith religious leaders to continue to press and to continue to stress the importance of the community. Again, it seemed like so many of the policies that are being implemented and proposed is not of our community. And again, who better to speak to these issues than us as faith and community leaders, and were looking to do that august the 28th. Rabbi, i think also whats important is beyond the politics, because we made this clear this is not partisan, is the morality. When were talking about a healthcare proposal, which was proposed in the senate, that would cost up to 34 Million People their health insurance, youre talking about people watching me right now with preexisting conditions, talking about people right now that need their medicine, it is immoral to play with peoples healthcare and lives. Youre talking about people sitting in jail that did nothing wrong, some that did a minor offense that will lose their many years of their lives. Thats immoral. I mean, i think that we have taken the morality out and the sensitivity out of a lot of the issues and just looked at what side were on rather than what do we stand for as a nation. Thats right, reverend al. I think the Faith Community, the ministers, rabbis, imams, we have a unique role to play in proclaiming that prophetic voice. We will be walking humbly but marching proudly on august 28th and we will be lifting up that moral voice. Im very proud that it was in the offices of the religious Action Center reformed judaism in washington, d. C. That the Voting Rights act of 1963 was drafted and the Civil Rights Act of 64, but those acts are under siege. The Voting Rights act was eviscerated in a Supreme Court case in shelby in 2012. As you referenced a moment ago we have Voter Suppression laws all across the country, one in North Carolina that was called racist with surgical precision by a federal Appeals Court when it got thrown out. We need to organize and mobilize at the Grassroots Level as youre doing on august 28th. I thank you both very much, reverend tullis and rabbi jonah pestner. Up next, could smoking marijuana lead to the destruction of this country . Stay tuned. I no longer live with the uncertainties of hep c. Wondering, what if . I let go of all those feelings. Because i am cured with harvoni. Harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. 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Because one of the dumbest things a conservative outside of washington said this week came courtesy of professional provocateur ann coulter. No one gets arrested and tried for possession of marijuana. Marijuana makes people retarded. Especially when theyre young. Weve got enough bus boys, were bringing in bus boys by the million through our immigration policy, we do not need a country of bus boys, were destroying the country. I apologize, folks. I meant the dumbest and meanest. Lets start with the meanness. First, because in 2016 retarded when used in this manner is widely considered to be hate speech that belong in the past with the n word and out outdated insults. Maybe thats why on behalf of a mentally disabled girl seen here president obama signed a law removing the term from federal language. Oh, and no one gets arrested for pot . Tell that to the more than 7 Million People arrested on weed charges for 2001 to 2010. They werent all bus boys. 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Minority film goers account for nearly half of hollywoods box office receipts, despite the documented absence of faces of color on screen and in leadership roles behind the scenes. Its not complicated. Fans of color support content that speaks to them, regardless of the complexions depicted. Case in point, hbos mega hit series game of thrones while it centers on a fictionalized myth i can europe, black viewers have embraced the shows mix of high fantasy and high drama as their own. And so naturally black social media was inflamed by the news that the shows main producers in choosing the premise for their next hbo project had decided on an alternative history, an alternate history, in which the confederacy won the civil war and africanamericans remained enslaved into the present day. It even has an easy to remember name, confederate. The fallout has had hbo doing damage control for the last week and a new campaign from the woman behind the oscar so white hashtag has been picking up traction from television. Also in answer mega producer will packer and Aaron Mcgruder announced this week that their Amazon Studios project in which freed slaves created a thriving nation in the postwar south in, quote, very, very active development. I think my guests and i can relate a bit more to the title of this collaboration, the duo is called black america. Joining me now from washington is april rain, creator of the no confederate and oscar so White Campaign hashtags on social media, and here in new york we have filmmaker rebecca fashon cohost of the cinema radio show. Thank you for being with us. Thank you for having us. April, let me go to you. You have been out there really active on social media, oscars so white which many of us were in the streets complimenting what you had done with hashtag, now you are i cant say beating the drums, let me say hitting your laptop and putting the pressure on around the confederate. Why what is your fear, what is your warning here . Our concern here is that the commodification of black pain for others enjoyment must stop. This cant be an alternate history when we have people like dylann roof walking into a house of peace and killing nine black people in cold blood. When we have the textbooks in the state of texas literally rewriting history so that africans and africanamericans were no longer enslaved people in this country but merely servants as if they were just waiting for a better job on linkedin. Hbo can do a much better job than this particular show and we would like to see them open this up to other opportunities for marginalized communities to have their stories told. Now, let me ask you, rebecca, we have on one side the confederate that we dont know when it will show, i understand they havent even started writing but its certainly slated, and you have on the other side black america on the amazon series which is going to show blacks controlling their own country. Are we seeing flip sides of the same kinds of things or are we seeing again because of the domination of whites behind the cameras in an executive position that there is an unfair depiction of blacks and every once in awhile Something Like black america is put in to try to calm the waters in terms of the Broader Media world . Right. I think we need to look at and interrogate where these stories are coming from. As far as black america these are black kruters, this is mcgruder and packer. If you watched game of thrones in the past seven seasons their depiction of people of color are usually slaves or they are under the order of a white woman, the deneres character. I think people really need to interrogate that. To what i understand the two creators of game of thrones have never climbed in on the current state of black america. Yes, they have signed the two black executive producers and writers, you know, theyve gone on npr and said that they are not the patsees, they are not they are fully partners in this creation, but that doesnt alleviate my fear because, you know, theyre saying that theyre equal partners which means that theyre equally complicity which means they didnt challenge the two white creators on game of thrones of what their premise s its an at history. Its not at history. How can you create an at history when people dont even know the real list are i. April, you know, one of the things that you alluded to was given opportunities to others in terms of people of color because there has been a shutout of a lot of creative, talented people being able to get access to a lot of the airwaves, a lot of the projects that should be financed and all. So were talking about a community that provides half of the movie goers, half of a lot of the viewership, but nowhere near that in terms of getting a lot of their talent and a lot of their Creative Work out there. And when people like my group, National Action network or others come and raise that, oh, yall are shaking us down, when, in fact, theyre shaking down the consumers by enjoying their support, getting advertising dollars from it, but not letting those same communities creative artists have access to be able to expose and give the public the benefit of their talent. Thats exactly right, reverend al. What i have said with oscar so white is the people who pay their hard earned money every day to sit in that darkened theater should be able to see themselves on screen. And thats regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender, ability or disability or first nation status. So what the producers of game of thrones could have done and can still do is to use their significant leverage with hbo and open up the process to traditionally underrepresented communities, to allow other stories could be told rather than this alt history of their own. One wonders when this show was green lit how many people of color, how many people of the marginalized communities were in the room. Because thats important. With he need to start from the script stage, the pitch idea stage all the way to what is seen on screen. Who is making the decisions, rebecca, is part of the problem. With he went through this with sony a few years ago with amy pascal. Who is in the room making the decisions april is raising which i have to say is something we all have agreed to and have for some time. If you look at game of thrones frack record and this is the thing, everybody is saying that they want to give this show a chance, but again, we have to go back to game of thrones which is their first and most successful show. To my knowledge not one black director has ever directed an episode of game of thrones. And in front of the camera and behind the camera as well. Are there any black writers of game of thrones . It seems very interesting that the one time beniof and reese has reached out to black viewers is when they want to do a show of black people still being impressed in present day which is really an insult to our cull tree and to our talent. I have to leave it there. Thank you both. Always good to talk to you, april rain and rebecca bushon. Glad to have you with us. 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Detroit is setting a war, the violence continues. Get on the floor. Im just going to assume you are all criminals. Dont talk about this to anyone ever. Within the many touchstones of the Civil Rights Era are countless stories that the wider public does not know and does not hear. In late july of 1967 in the middle of the long hot summer that saw dozens of race riots and rebellions erupt nationwide, the city of detroit was rocked by four days of domestic unrest unmatched since the civil war. In the midst of the chaos was the tragedy at the Algiers Motel in which several black occupants and two young white women were beaten, tortured and killed by Law Enforcement. It was this untold story that oscar winning filmmaker catherine bigelot brings to pulse pounding life in her feature detroit. Joining me now is a native of detroit, the one and only dr. Michael eric dyson, he is a professor at Georgetown University and author of the book hears we cannot stop, a sermon to white america. Thank you for being with me, dr. Dys dyson. Thank you. When i watched this the other night i hosted one of the screenings i thought of you because you are from detroit. Right. You more than anyone in academia have interpreted this problem of policing today. Looking back 50 years when you were a kid, i was a kid. Right. But i remember i was maybe 12, i remember the riots in detroit but this is the first time weve seen in a thriller the story told, the viciousness and the context of why people erupted in the violence. Martin luther king used to say that the riots are the voice of the unheard. Thats right. No, thats a bril yaliant summa and youre absolutely right that this film shows a spotlight not only on the urban rebellion in 67 but a specifically tragic incident where three black teens lost their lives at the hand of vicious police. Now, we know that these police werent extraordinary that is to say that the system itself produced the kind of pathology that demonized black people that led to their deaths, but the reality is that weve rarely seen as you said a movie, a thriller, a nonfiction a fictional attempt here to come to grips with the truth of that went on here. Catherine biglow trains her lens on this incident to show us if you think whats gone on 50 years away has gone away, we know eric garner and sandra bland and tamir rice and time and again we see this repeated. The reality is that it makes us feel that we are not crazy because it cant be black peoples fault if it happened 50 years ago and is still happening 50 years later there must be something about the Police Department itself, the Police Culture that produces this kind of stigma on young, black people. I think this film is such a powerful, as you said, i was 8 years old and i remember the trailer and asking my mother what this was and she told me something about a blind pig. I said what does a sightless, right, but i found out later this after hours club sparked off the whole thing and, again, two returning soldiers from vietnam who were being celebrated and the Police Coming in to really devastate us, thats the story that you have helped put on the front pages, as well. Well, how the Detroit Police approached the investigation after the incident. Right. When we have these conversations, we do them in stages. Okay. Stage one, witnesses. Stage two, suspects. What stage are we in . You dont know what stage were in . No, can you specify for me . Yeah, were in stage two. Youre a suspect. You know, i was reading your oped in this mornings New York Times. One thing you talk about, this is still happening and why and why people like me get involved. You talk about how big low put a human face on it. I think sometimes people just see the issues. Those of us that are public figures and dont realize these are human beings. When you see the fear and terror that these ordinary people in this motel people start saying, wait a minute, maybe they, as you stated clearly, are not crazy. Thats it. Very powerful point. I think one of the advantages that big low gives to us and one of the work within is to humanize these people and even to the degree that is possible to humanize the opposition, though she shows it grows out of not only personal hatred, but a systemic and institutional problem that really is perp perpetuated regardless what these people think. Youre so right in terms of humanizing them and giving them a face and a voice. Looking at the family and the aftermath. Somebodys family is hurt and pained and grieved. After their child goes down and after their daughter dies, there is something of the human toll. The psychic toll that black and other people endure. We see in minnesota when the white woman dies the police chief resigns. When Fernando Castille dies it what Kathryn Bigelow has done is brought her female privileges, well, shes a white director. We demand that white people wrestle with and grapple with the problem of race themselves. Dont believe it to black and brown people. What she has bravely and courageously done here is attacked this problem head on and looked at it with determination to say what happened here is wrong and evil and problematic and it must never happen, again. This film reminds us of the human toll that that particular tragedy sgle some of us still finding it right now and very glad she put it on the screens so people could see why. Thank you. Always honored to have you with us. Well be right back. It starts a chain reaction. Thats heard throughout the connected business world. 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