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Section containing the process for termination of ownership. It confirms the commissioner can force a sale by a vote of threefourths of the owners, and this morning, the Sacramento Kings owner said they have the votes. The owners, i know, george, are all color blind and they found this behavior was outrageous, so i would be surprised if it isnt a unanimous vote. I would be very surprised if that was not the case. Unanimous vote. It looks like the owners want him out. Tomorrow, a key nba Owners Committee will meet to discuss the next steps and set a time table for a vote. And buyers are already lining up. Today we learned Oprah Winfrey is interested in buying the clippers, if sterling is forced to sell the team. And we also learned the players were ready to make a major protest last night, preparing to walk off the court right after the tipoff and boycott if the punishment wasnt enough. The players want sterling out. The owners want sterling out. And the public appears to want sterling out, but what happens if sterling fights . What would a legal fight look like . This is a defining moment for the nba and for the country. Joining me now, a sports attorney, steve olenick, whose clients include several clippers players, and the Washington Post jonathan capehart. Thank you both for being here tonight. Thanks, rev. Thanks for having me. Steve, from what you know about Donald Sterling, do you think he wants to fight . I think hes going to fight. Hes a billionaire. Hes a lawyer. He has the means to actually fight this, and, you know, in a lot of ways, reverend, he does actually have a case. Whats his case . Assuming everyone votes him out, hes going to immediately file for an injunction. Hes going to say all these contracts have been breached, and hes going to potentially sue in state and federal law for antitrust litigation thats going to go on for a very long time. Wouldnt in a lawsuit he open himself to be deposed on his racial statements, both here and in the past, and for that matter, his marital status with his mistress being the one allegedly that taped this stuff, wouldnt he have a lot of exposure in depositions . He is going to be very much exposed. However, when you have the means to actually do it, he may say, you know what, unless i can sell this or assign it to my family member, he may be ready for the fight. Well, jonathan, what do you think . Well, look, i think from all i know and all that i have read, Donald Sterling is probably the most litigious owner in the nba and has shown time and time again that he is not afraid to go to court, and hes a lawyer himself. The thing that i found interesting in the bylaws i was able to look at, especially article 13, or chapter 13, there is no morals clause in there. The commissioner is able to get a team owner to sell if he gets threequarters of the vote, but its under strict criteria, and they all have to do with financial management. 13 doesnt, though. 13, let me put it up. It says that, as it says, an owner can be voted out if found they, quote, willfully violate any of the provisions of the constitution and bylaws, resolutions, or agreements of the association. Thats pretty broad. Right. And if the owners say that they feel that making racial remarks and saying you dont want a race there, violates the rules of the association that holds. I mean, yes, in terms of getting the owners to vote him out, but if he sues and then it goes to a court of law, thats the point im trying to make, is that perhaps Donald Sterling will feel that, well, he cant find justice as he might define it with his fellow nba team owners, well hell go to court and force the issue in court, where legally he might be on stronger footing. But he signed the document. He agreed to this. I mean, all of the owners agreed to this. How does he go to court and say i want to sue for something that i signed with the owners, agreeing to it . Reverend, i think that one of the key fundamental things is what is the asset value and what is the Purchase Price going to be for the clippers . I think when you start looking at that, that is his strongest claim. If the owners have colluded and theyve agreed to vote him out, they are going to have to determine a price that he agrees to, to sell the team. Thats why youre starting to see all these celebrities, all these people want to get in on this, because if you potentially get a Los Angeles Clippers for 600 million, you just stole the team. The team is worth much more than 600 million. You saw what the Milwaukee Bucks went for. Maybe what hes doing is trying to negotiate a deal with price, because as much as jonathan says he doesnt appear to be afraid to go to court, he settled on two or three times. I think hes a lot more bluff than he is bite, because he didnt go to the mat on the discrimination suit, he settled for millions of dollars. 100 . And when you can get potentially a billion dollars for this franchise, he may just say, you know what, im done, thank you, im out. Let me play for you, jonathan, commissioner silver said the nbas taking Donald Sterlings past behavior into account. Listen to this. In meting out this punishment, we did not take into account his past behavior. When the board ultimately considers his ultimate fitness to be an owner in the nba, they will take into account a lifetime of behavior. So when the board takes into account his past behavior, his lifetime of behavior, they have a strong, as far as im concerned, im not a lawyer, but as far as i can see as a nonattorney here, 13 could easily fit their determining that he does not fit the laws or what the association stands for. Sure. And what court would tell them that they cant say what the association stands for . Well, like you, reverend, im not a lawyer and i dont even play one on tv, but when it comes to providing all of the ammo that they need to get the threequarters of the vote or unanimous vote to vote him out or to force the sale of the clippers, theres plenty of evidence there, plenty of lawsuits, plenty of horrible depositions. On top of what we already know from the recordings between himself and v. Stiviano, that theres no way he should remain a part of the nba. The sad part and the tragedy here with a little t is that all of the things before these recordings came to light, the lawsuits, the discrimination in housing that hes been accused of and has been taken to court over, thats been known for years in los angeles. And so it took these recorded conversations, racial conversations that he had with stiviano, to force the issue, to force the nba to finally do something about him. Now, let me ask you this, steve, getting away from the legal part and to what its done for the country, what the impact this is in terms of sports and race that a lot of people, including me, were very concerned about and raised from the beginning of these tapes surfacing, let me play what head coach doc rivers, who was hired by sterling. He talked about the future last night prior to the game. Listen to this. Is this over . No, its not over, but its the start of a healing process that we need and its a start for our organization, you know, to try to get through this. So, a healing process. Dealing with this in terms of how the nation, how the sport, how people deal with this kind of ugly rhetoric from the owner of one of our professional basketball teams. Youre right, and, you know, the sad part, reverend, with a lot of this, this is a historic precedent in sports, it is a landmark, you know, case for potentially could actually rise to the Supreme Court potentially, but i will say this, with all of this its a good thing, because a group of people have come together and they are actually trying to do something for the betterment of society and youre starting to see that, that everyone came together, they potentially boycotted, they wanted to see action, they got the action, and hopefully this is the first step in getting a lot more minorities to invest into professional teams, and i hope that we see this going forward. I think this is a great thing, and i hope that it continues. I hope we start getting a lot of momentum. I think his defiance will backfire if, in fact, hes not bluffing. And well see. He also would have problems, i think, jonathan, with broadcasting games. I mean, theres a lot of people that he had before, including broadcast and all, that just wont be there if he tries to hold on, and i think that it would be foolish, but then again, thats up to him. Steve olenick and jonathan capehart, thank you both for your time tonight. Thanks, rev. Thank you very much. Still ahead, the oprah effect. Doesnt the nba need more diversity in the front office . Dont team owners need to look more like team rastas . Also, paul ryan meets with black lawmakers about his notorious comment, blaming poverty on the culture of inner cities. Did he apologize . Did he make amends . Well talk to a lawmaker inside the room. And what really happened in that horrific botched execution that reignited the Death Penalty debate . A condemned man gasping, grimacing, crying out after he was supposed to be sedated. Isnt america better than this . Thats ahead on politicsnation. 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Politics over people. Thats the Choice Senate republicans made today, when they voted and blocked the raising of the minimum wage to 10. 10 an hour. President obama said the decision made no sense. By preventing even a vote on this bill, they prevented a raise for 28 million hardworking americans. They said no to helping millions work their way out of poverty. And keep in mind this bill would have done so without any new taxes or spending or bureaucracy. They told americans, like the ones who are here today, that youre on your own. Without even looking them in the eye. Increasing the minimum wage should be one of the easiest votes a senator takes. People have rallied in support of it all over the country, poll after poll shows strong majorities of American Public favor an increase by large gaps and large margins. And states are already moving forward. Just this week, Hawaiis Legislature passed a bill to raise the minimum wage to 10. 10. Maryland passed a similar bill earlier this month, and connecticuts governor signed an increase in the law just last month. But at the federal level, republicans offered up the same old tired excuses for saying no. We all want to see hardworking American Families work their way toward the american dream, but were not going to be able to do that by the federal government setting wages. Young people and those new to the workforce are those who typically earn the minimum wage. Washington democrats are just not serious about helping the middle class. Did he just say that with a straight face . Not serious about helping the middle class . This comes from a politician thats in a Republican Party that demonizes the working class and fights for the 1 . Senator harry reid hit that point after the vote today. They are fighting for the billionaires. Were fighting for people who are struggling to make a living. So they attacked the working poor and fight for the billionai billionaire Koch Brothers. Americans for prosperities, backed by the kochs urged a no vote and the republicans were more than happy to do their bidding. Republicans are defending very publicly, six of them at least, the Koch Brothers while they come to the floor and oppose raising the minimum wage. Defending billionaires on the senate floor, but refusing to give working people a living wage. Its a startling contrast, and one the American People wont forget. Joining me now, Atlanta Mayor khaseem reid and ryan grimm, Washington Bureau chief for the huffington post. Thank you both for being here. Thank you, reverend. Thank you for having me, reverend al. Mayor, let me go to you first. You see it up close. You see it from a very close vantage point. What would an increase in the minimum wage mean for regular working people . It means people will be able to have lives with dignity. If you work full time for the current federal minimum wage, you earn about 14,500 a year, so if youre a part of a family of four, youre still in poverty. This goes against the american ethic of fairness and valuing hard work, and what we need to do is to help the 28 million individuals that would be helped, the 16. 5 million families, but its also a clear wakeup call. The only way were going to get the minimum wage raised to 10. 10 is to win elections, al, and thats going to start with the senate, and then we have to move to the house. Folks on the other side of this issue believe that because were in offyear elections that they can behave in this way, that they can deny 28 million americans access to a rate of pay that will allow them to live. Not even have a high quality of life, simply to live, and it will also significantly stimulate the economy. But they think since were in an offyear election, they can take votes like this and not worry about it. If we were in a president ial year, this issue would be attracting much more attention. Weve got to show folks at the polls. Which is why weve got to bring out numbers of people concerned, no matter what party they are in, in this year. Like never before. Ryan, republicans always say they dont want to raise the minimum wage because it would cost jobs, but it would also live 900,000 people out of poverty and incomes would rise by 2 billion. Would this be good for the economy . It would certainly be good for the economy. Just on the level of command demand. If you have an extra 500 in your pocket, and thats roughly what it would mean, nearly 500 a month in your pocket. In a lot of towns, thats a rent payment, thats making sure your electricity doesnt get cut off. That means you can actually maybe buy some fruits and vegetables at the grocery store, and thats 500 thats getting pumped into your local economy every single month that wasnt going there before. Instead, it was going out to shareholders or whenever else it was going at the very top. Certainly, and economists do not agree that this would cost jobs, you know, the cbo number thats being tossed around says that this would mean some certain jobs would not be filled at some point. Not that jobs would be lost, and it also said 16. 5 Million People would get a raise, so even the cbo report, which republicans are using to oppose this, on net say it would be better for the economy. Mayor reed, youre the mayor of atlanta and a National Figure on many short lists of national deliberations, but your heart is there as everyone is, in home, and president obama talked about a letter today he received from a woman in your home state of georgia. Listen to this. Yes. Gina lives in littleburn, georgia, and at the time she was working two jobs making 8 an hour each. Sheila wrote, i do not have days off. I have hours off. But she kept going to work every day, because she wanted to be able to afford College Tuition for her daughter. And so she wrote to me and said, i do not want a pot of gold, all i want is to pay for college and pay my bills in full every month. People like sheila deserve a fair shot. So far, republicans in congress disagree. I mean, do republicans try to act like people like sheila dont exist, mr. Mayor . But thats why were here to remind them. You know, we took action in atlanta. Right now, every fulltime employee in our city makes more than 10. 10 an hour, because we listened to president obama and listened to people like sheila. If she was working two fulltime jobs, thats still only 29,000 a year, and thats why we got to win elections as we come up in the midterms, reverend al, and why we got to hold the United States senate. Ryan, the Economic Policy institute has a report on who would benefit from a minimum wage hike. The average worker is 35 years old. 56 of them are women, and 28 have children. Now republicans always say that these are all young people. Its just not true, is it . No. The idea of the kind of pimplefaced teenager taking your order at mcdonalds or working at the beach in the summer for minimum wage is very outdated. People who still see that as the regular minimum wage worker are not in touch with what the economy has become, and especially over the last five years. You know, this socalled recovery that weve had, all of the profits, all of the recovery, has gone to the top, while wages have just continued to stay flat or even fall in a lot of areas. People who were once making 50,000 a year are now making 30,000. People making 30,000 are making 20,000, and people unemployed for more than a year and their fallback plan was to work retail somewhere, cant even find retail jobs because theres so much discrimination against longterm unemployed and because there are more job seekers than there are jobs. And, you know, so this is just a problem thats facing people that the republicans dont seem to be able to recognize. All right. Im going to have to leave it there, but mayor reed, i noticed that 11 of the senators who voted to block minimum wage are up for reelection, so youre saying vote, vote, vote this year. Lets go. Lets go. All right. Mayor kasim reed, thank you so much, sir, for taking time to be with us tonight. And ryan grimm, thank you, as well. Coming up, were going to look at last month. Paul ryan blamed poverty on an inner city culture of not working. Today, the big meeting on that comment with the Congressional Black Caucus. Someone inside tells what happened behind closed doors. 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You know, as i travel the state, what i hear from people is, they are having a harder time getting a physician. One lady here talked about the number of orthopedic surgeons that are now she cant get find an orthopedic surgeon. I hear about that was one person out of 20, though. Now, that was true, but Governor Scott forgot to mention that when he asked, quote, asked the group if others were finding physicians, were opting out of medicare, the response was a chorus of nos. Looks like the search for obamacare stories is coming to an end. Wait, did you hear that . That scary movie music means something is about to happen, a dramatic moment is coming. And here it is, here it is. A brand new poll shows rick scott, whos running against obamacare, is ten points down against his democratic competitor, former governor charlie crist. Maybe Governor Scott should spend more time helping people sign up for obamacare and less time searching for Horror Stories. 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Today, congressman paul ryan met with members of the Congressional Black Caucus to explain his offensive remarks about poverty, which he blamed on inner city culture. Here are those comments from back in march. We have got this tailspin of culture in our inner cities in particular of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work, and so theres a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. No culture of working in the inner cities. Members of the black caucus and others were outraged. Instead of talking about solving the problem of poverty, he started out talking about blaming people for being poor. There has been nothing done but to say people who dont work are lazy, and i think he should be not only ashamed of himself if you know the least, you shouldnt speak the loudest. Inner city men suggest race, and chairman ryan, i think, knows that. If not, i think were going to have to try to create an atmosphere where he can learn things. We want to really challenge his assumptions about the laziness, as it were, of inner city men. I hope that he just comes in and apologizes and just confesses ignorance. Congressman ryan never apologized directly. He said his comments were inarticulate, but had nothing whatsoever to do with race. Today he went on to explain himself. So what happened . Joining me now, congresswoman karen beth, democrat of california, who was in that meeting today. Congresswoman, did paul ryan apologize today or explain himself further . Well, he did not apologize. He said that he miscommunicated and that he was inarticulate, as was described before, and what he told us was he had been traveling the country and going to different districts and, in fact, said he had even been to some of our districts and that he was observing and studying poverty, because this is an issue that he wants to take on longterm. One of the things that i believe, rev, and ive said this before, is that first of all, if he was in any of our districts, that was definitely news to us, because we most certainly did not know that, but i believe that he does not know or understand what it is that he is seeing. So we asked him questions about the implications of his budget and his policy and how that impacts poverty. I do have to tell you, rev, the meeting was extremely short, and so the dialogue really did not allow for a complete back and forth. So it was a short meeting, it was not a long range meeting where people could really say what they wanted to say . Well, exactly. People did have an opportunity to say what they wanted to say and to ask him questions, but there was not enough time for a sufficient dialogue, and then it was interrupted by votes. But i think one thing that is very clear is that he has a very specific philosophy, and he said that, and he called it that, and he described what it was, and he even acknowledged that some programs, such as the earned income tax credit, was a good program, but he believed that the way some of the programs are, create a disincentive to work, and, obviously, members of the Congressional Black Caucus disagreed with that, and we have several members that sit on the Budget Committee and they were asking him specific budgetrelated questions, such as why would he cut pell grants, why would he cut food stamps, how does we feel that contributes to alleviating poverty, and i dont believe there was an opportunity to hear a real substantiative answer. When it came to pell grants, he said he was not calling to cut pell grants, but was saying they shouldnt be increased over time. Thats, you know, a question as to how you view that. In our interpretation, thats absolutely a cut. It might be a cut that takes place in the out years, but it absolutely is a cut. And so the collision of two philosophies, but i think whats very important is that he intends to continue working on poverty, and i think he is going to provide all of us with an opportunity to have a very serious debate in our country that we need to have. But he also called for a new tone in the debate. Take a listen. Uhhuh. Policy makers from all sides of the aisle need to take a look at whether we are fighting poverty successfully or not, and i think we can learn from these exchanges with one another, and i think what were trying to accomplish here is improving the tone of debate so that more people are invited to this debate. But the tone of the debate, the congressman is the one who used pretty disturbing tones when referring to poor people in the past. Listen to his tone. Higher tax rates will decrease the number of makers in society and increase the number of takers. We dont want to turn this safety net into a hammock that lulls ablebodied people to complacency. Teach a man how to fish, he can feed himself for a life. Dont simply feed fish. Were getting more and more takers than makers in america. I mean, is that the tone hes talking about that we need to correct . Well, we absolutely need to change that tone specifically, and if wed had more time, believe me, a number of us would have asked him about those very specific quotes, and i think if he is going to delve into this issue, it provides an opportunity for us to lift a lot of the issues that happen around the country in terms of people really understanding the barriers that people have in society and the policies that contribute to poverty. So, if you want to get people off of food stamps, if you want to reduce poverty, i got a solution for you, raise the minimum wage. Its not rocket science. Theres a jobs program that the president put forward a couple of years ago, thats a great opportunity. You know, putting people back to work, thats the way you lift people out of poverty. Congresswoman karen bass, thank you so much for your time this evening. Thanks for having me on. Still ahead, does the nba need someone like Oprah Winfrey to buy the clippers . A look at diversity in pro sports. Also, the judge who gave a man just one month in prison for rape finally gets reversed. And well look at the Unanswered Questions from that botched execution that horrified the country. Stay with us. Vo once upon a e there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real avo whatever you can imagine, all in one place expedia, find yours other things, you dont. 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At 6 33, a doctor and prison officials announced lockett was unconscious, but three minutes later, witnesses say he began to move, even lifting his head off the execution table. At 6 37, he said, somethings wrong. At 6 39, he still lifting his shoulders and head off the gurney, grimacing. And appeared to be in distress. Witnesses say lockett writhed, clenched his teeth and appeared to struggle against the restraints holding him to the gurney. And at 6 39, he did, right before they closed the curtain, he said he had full upper body movement, he was able to lift his head and shoulders from the gurney. He was struggling to talk, but those are the words we got out man, im not, and somethings wrong. Somethings wrong. Something was very wrong. At 6 39, prison officials finally react, stepping in to stop the proceedings. After about three minutes of this, the warden who was inside the room said were going to close the blinds temporarily, and they closed the blinds, but they never reopened them. The execution was halted, lockett was pronounced dead from a heart attack at 7 06 p. M. Officials later said locketts vein failed and the pain medication never took effect. Without effective sedation, the lethal drugs are known to cause agonizing suffocation and pain. Prison officials insist the problem was not caused by an experimental threedrug cocktail that had never been used before. Despite lawsuits, the state refuses to disclose the origins of those drugs. Many questions remain about this case, but also about the process by which our government takes the lives of its own citizens. Is that process fair, is it just . These are questions Many Americans are asking tonight. Some for the very first time. Joining me now is barry chef, codirector of the innocence project. Thanks for being here tonight, barry. My pleasure, reverend al. You know more about executions than most. Whats your reaction to what happened . Well, the first thing, everybody should have seen this coming. There was litigation about the secrecy of the method that they were going to use in terms of the drugs, because states have been running short of the drugs that have been approved for humane executions, so theyve been going to these companies that have been doing these compoundings, and in this instance the courts refused in the final analysis to say exactly what was going to be used for purposes of the execution, and look how it was botched. And this on the heels of south dakota, the execution of a guy named Michael Lee Wilson on january 9th, where hes saying, i feel my whole body burning. Again, with this secrecy, ohio, Dennis Mcguire was executed on january 16th, and he was gasping for air for ten minutes. Everybody knew that was going wrong, so this has been happening again and again and again and again, and it doesnt matter whether youre for or against the Death Penalty, its cruel and unusual punishment. Youre one of the foremost civil rights attorneys and Civil Liberties attorneys in the country. An independent review has been ordered, but its being led by a Public Safety commissioner that she appointed. As one whos seen it all and has been a leading figure in these kinds of situations, how independent can that review be, barry . Well, on the face it really cant be. You cant investigate yourself, and you have to bring in independent professionals. Now i dont want to prejudge it too much, because maybe theyll bring in some other independent individuals to look at this, but its a very bad process thats already occurred here in oklahoma, because initially the courts said were going to not make this a secret process and then there was pressure from the governor, pressure from the legislature where they threatened to impeach the judges, so theres a lot of answering to do here. You know, one of the things, and youve worked at this very hard, probably more consistently than anyone i know, and that is around the number of false death row convictions that are unacceptably high. A new study shows that of the 7,482 deaths handed down from 1973 to 2004, 117 or about 1. 6 , were exonerated. With more time and resources, the study says 4. 1 or more of the more than 200 prisoners would have been exonerated. Now, that means 1 in 25 death row inmates are likely innocent. I mean, shouldnt that shock americans, barry . Well, it should, and its especially important to know where that study came from. That was a recent article by sam gross and colleagues in the proceedings of the National Academy of sciences, so thats the leading Scientific Organization in the United States, if not the world, that is taking a look at this and saying when you really do a Statistical Analysis where you compare apples to apples, its frighteningly high rate of potentially wrongful convictions and wrongful executions. Now, look, we have cameron toddwelling ham in texas where we believe we demonstrated a innocent man executed in texas. Theres a book coming out about another individual that i think the evidence overwhelmingly shows was executed and is innocent in texas, and texas is not the only state. So people dealing with the question of the Death Penalty now, we have to ask ourselves, you know, we cant just have it for a few counties in the United States. The truth of the matter is, 14 counties in the United States with 5 of the United States population, are responsible for 53 of the executions. And counties with 28 of our population produce 95 of the institutions. Wow. So its a very small number of counties. We know where it is, maricopa county, arizona, you know, certain counties outside of los angeles, harris county, places in florida. So a very small number of places that are generating these executions. Well, i wanted to have you on, because you know this better than anyone i know, and tonight Many Americans that never asked about this question of the Death Penalty are asking tonight because of oklahoma. Barry scheck, thank you for your time. Coming up, justice delayed, but not denied. A montana Supreme Court makes a dramatic decision in a case involving a teacher convicted of rape. Please, stay with us. [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. She can print amazing things, right from her computer. 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Last summer, a judge sentenced rambold to 15 years in prison for his crime, but suspended all but 31 days of that sentence, saying the victim was as much in control of the situation as the teacher and that she was older than her chronological age. He was later forced to apologize. Im not sure just what i was attempting to say at that point, but it didnt come out correct. What i said was demeaning to all women, not what i believe in, and irrelevant to the sentencing. Today, the Supreme Court rebuked him for his comments and ordered that a new judge resentence rambold to a minimum of two years in prison, as state law requires. A disciplinary complaint against judge bar is still pending. Well continue to follow this story. Alright, that should just about do it. Excuse me, what are you doing . Uh, well we are fine tuning these small cells that improve coverage, capacity and quality of the network. It means youll be able t post from the breakroom. Great did it hurt . 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Over the last few decades, the league has slowly become more diverse. Earl lloyd was the first black player in the nba back in 1950, three years after Jackie Robinson integrated baseball. Bill russell became the first black coach in 1966. B. E. T. Founder Robert Johnson became the first black owner of any Pro Sports Team in 2003. A decade later, we still have just one black owner in the nba. Isnt it time that team owners look a bit more like their rosters . The nba commissioner has agreed to meet with civil rights leaders, and we should discuss diversity. We should discuss ownership. Not just talent on the court, but ownership. Thats america. And we need to start reflecting it. Thanks for watching. Im al sharpton. Hardball starts right now. Sterling habits, lets play hardball. Good evening, im Chris Matthews back in washington. Let me start tonight with this, burgeoning National Focus on racial remarks. 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