President trump like never before. Armed with his new government ethics plan. Welcome to monday. Its meet the press daily. Im katy tur in for chuck todd. The first of two white house insiders with Extensive Knowledge of the president s dealings with ukraine is testifying before congress right this moment. President trumps former russia advisor fiona hill is still behind closed doors with three congressional committees after arriving on capitol hill about eight hours ago. Were keeping an eye on the room where that testimony is happening and if we spot a lawmaker who can clue us in on the details of what is going on in that room, we will go there live. And while we dont know yet exactly what ms. Hill is saying, we do know her appearance has the white house worried. A former senior white house official tells nbc news that hills appearance has caused concern among those close to trump because she played a central role in the administrations russian and ukrainian policy. A source tells nbc news that ms. Hill was prepared to Tell Congress that the president s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and e. U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland went around the National Security council and normal white house procedure to pursue a shadow Foreign Policy on ukraine. And to try and dig up dirt on the bidens in ukraine. And house investigators will hear from sondland himself on thursday, who plans to defy state Department Orders and appear before congress. According to the washington post, sondland will testify that giuliani had him work on getting ukraine to announce a corruption investigation into a company tied to hunter biden in exchange for a white house visit for the ukrainian president. Nbc news is reporting that sondland will also testify that his denial of a quid pro quo on Ukrainian Military aide was based solely on President Trumps personal assurances. In other words, he only denied it because President Trump told him to. And all of this is happening after the New York Times reported this weekend that the president s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, is under federal criminal investigation into whether he violated foreign lobbying laws in his work in ukraine. Joining me now is nbcs hans nickels at the white house and nbcs jeff bennett is on capitol hill. So many, many hours behind closed doors, jeff. Do we have any idea whats going on with fiona hill . Well, katie, i can tell you our reporting has been born out in the sense that we are getting some reporting that she has conveyed what we were told that she would convey to these house investigators. That its her view that Rudy Giuliani, the president s outside attorney, and Gordon Sondland, the ambassador to the e. U. Who is set to testify later in the week, those two men ran, as you put it, a shadow Foreign Policy on ukraine. Running the trapping outside the formal, normal processes and procedures. Not working in the National Interest but working in their own selfinterest at the behest of President Trump. Im also told shes gone a step further to defend the work and the reputation of Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to ukraine, who was ousted at least in some part having to do with the Disinformation Campaign that Rudy Giuliani set about. Trying to trying to smear her because remember she was one of those officials who raised concerns about the work that giuliani was doing. Now, fiona hill has always been sort of an intriguing person, intriguing choice at least for President Trump to pick her to serve as his top russia expert. She is a wellknown russia hawk. Shes putin skeptic. At times, she found herself at odds with President Trump given his state of desire to make nice with vladimir putin. But given her reported testimony, katy, given what weve heard from kurt, what weve heard from Marie Yovanovitch, you can see the pieces coming together. How democrats are going to stitch together this argument theyre making against President Trump. They say they know the what and why. What theyre doing now is try to get to the bottom of how. How it is in their view that he solicited foreign interference in the u. S. Election. And why are republicans not happy with this being behind closed doors, jeff . Reporter this is one of the talking points that weve heard from republicans. I think this is their chief talking point. They talk about the process. Theyre making the point that if this is going to be an impeachment process, it should happen out in the open. Democrats make the point that, yes, there will come a time for the public to find out what democrats have learned in this process. But adam schiff, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, has made clear he doesnt want witnesses to be tipped off by one another. He doesnt want the white house to know what some of these witnesses are saying behind closed doors. At least not yet. Now, members of congress returned to the hill here tomorrow so you can imagine that as this impeachment inquiry moves forward into the next few weeks, there will be a time that will come for some of these from some of these hearings to move out into the public. But for right now, the depositio depositions theyre taking are certainly happening behind closed doors. And hans, why is the white house worried about fiona hills testimony in particular . Fiona hill has a great deal of information about what the white houses posture and strategy was on the ukraine up to a certain point. So she in particular can be helpful in explaining what was happening with Marie Yovanovitch and why she was ultimately demoted from her position as ambassador. But she wasnt there for the actual phone call between the president of ukraine and President Trump thats really at the center of the democrats investigation into their inquiry on impeachment. You know, so when you look at the overall white house strategy right now, think of it almost in two tracks. Theyve got a legal strategy and pr strategy. The pr strategy is firmly in the hands of the president s thumbs. Thats the president talking as well as tweeting. And then you have the legal strategy and there seems to be an acknowledgment that they need to beef up their legal team. Rudy giuliani speaking moments ago with my colleague saying they are looking, signaling that they are looking to bring on more legal help. Implicit in that is that they are going to have to up their game and they may have to bring in additional counselors to try to craft the president s legal strategy. And katy, just real quick. Make a slightly awkward turn here but we do have new sanctions from the president. President announcing sanctions on turkey. Hes not being real specific. Hes talking about whats happening in terms of additional sanctions for steel. Hes saying trade talks are off. But we still dont have an affirmative statement from the president about what hes going to do to erdogan and if erdogan, the president of turkey, will be personally sanctioned. We have a full discussion on syria and turkey coming up. Hans, one more question to you. What about sondland . Later this week, he is going to testify according to our reporting and recording from multiple outlets now that the quid pro quo text message he sent diplomat bill taylor was basically dictated by the president. And that just adds another layer of is is sondland on the president s side of this . Or does he want to sort of side with the democrats . What the president excuse me what sondland has indicated is hes happy to testify even not withstanding the state departments objections. Different views on whether or not sondlands actually going to testify. But he isnt turning over any notes, any documents, because he says those belong to the state department. So its still an open question here whether or not the white house has a legal strategy to try to prevent anyone from testifying thats still in the employ of the United States government. They were going to hire trey gatty, former congressman. But that fell apart over the weekend as well. Thank you, guys, very much. For more on the legal implications of all of this for the president and for Rudy Giuliani, im joined by nbc legal analyst. Shes also a former assistant u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york. Also the same office Rudy Giuliani used to head. So this news that the scny is looking into what Rudy Giuliani was look overseas in ukraine, explain what theyre doing. Also, very weird since giuliani used to run the office. It is unusual. But, you know, more credit to them for doing that and in many ways, i think that theyre looking at giuliani, who used to be former u. S. Attorney. You know, and saying what are you doing . Right . It makes it all the more sort of shocking and incredulous that he might have committed crimes like this. And that hes hiding behind this veil of being the president s lawyer. I mean, i almost wish we could stop calling him that because none of this stuff that hes doing with respect to ukraine, giuliani, is as a lawyer, a legal matter, pertaining to the president. I mean, if he is what it looks like theyre getting at here is theyre looking at his work with these two men who have now been indicted. Parnas and furthermoren. To amongst other things, get ambassador of ukraine out. Why . Some people in ukraine didnt want her because she is a corruption fighter. Giuliani didnt want her because she didnt like what he was doing on the side and behind the back of the state department. Those are not legitimate reasons and giuliani isnt acting legitimately as the president s lawyer in doing that. Theres no privilege here. Why is there no privilege here . Is it because he said the state department sent me and hes got Text Messages with state Department Officials . Well, i mean, theres no privilege. I i would flip the question around. Why on earth would there be a privilege . Right . Theres no Attorney Client privilege because, again, hes not really acting as trumps personal lawyer here. Hes acting as sort of an agent, a fixer, you know, not even a legitimate agent. Right . I mean, hes doing things that hes not in a position legitimately to be doing. Namely, why is Rudy Giuliani, who has no security clearance that we know of, no Real Security clearance, no bona fides, no credentials with the state department, why is he working to get an ambassador, u. S. Ambassador, out of office . I mean, theres no legitimate explanation for that. So im wondering how were the democrats in your opinion building their case . I guess the the allegation is that the president nefariously was trying to get the government of ukraine to investigate his political rivals. Both what happened in 2016 and joe biden for 2020. The president says its all fine but now what youre seeing are ambassadors, diplomats, Text Messages that show that behind the scenes, the president was directing seemed to be directing Rudy Giuliani. And there was a deliverable what what about the case that theyre building . What do you make of it . I think theyre building a good case and i i think the way its working is youve got sort of the hard evidence. Right . Youve got the phone call between trump and za liens ki. Youve got the Text Messages of people in real time saying, whoa, whats going on . Now, what they need to do is find out what the whoa was, right . What made people say that . Was it because was there any you dont need this, right . All you need for impeachment and i think is very bad would be showing that trump and giuliani were soliciting this help for their campaign, which they pretty clearly were doing just on the face of the phone call and Text Messages. But we want to find out everything that happened and i think what were going to dig into is was there a deliberate withholding of the aid to ukraine in exchange for that digging up dirt . Can barr get involved in this . Well, i mean, barr in the investigation. He could. Yeah. So far, he hasnt and thats good. You know, there are certain kinds of charges where the scny needs to go to barr for permission. The kind of public corruption type charges, Campaign Finance charges, technically they have to get a sort of consult from the department of justice. He doesnt actually approve them. But u y you know, youre not going to go do this if youre a u. S. Attorney without giving a heads up to the department of justice. I think at this point now that theyve had these charges, theyve had this press conference, theres so much out there in the public realm. And i know bill barr is not you know, doesnt really seem to care that much about what people think. But even for him at this point, if he tried to shut it down, it seems to me that impeachment proceedings for him would begin the next day. Meme, thank you so much for joining us. And ahead, the political fall out of todays testimony from a white house insider and the question surrounding the president s future as support for impeachment grows among the American Public. Plus, the president has still not condemned a violent video showing a fake President Trump attacking, killing journalists. Well talk to a former trump insider about the president s state of mind. Out the president state of mind. Humira patients, you inspire us. The way you triumph over adversity. And live your lives. Thats why we redesigned humira. 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And they know they cant win on election day so theyre pursuing an illegal, invalid, and unconstitutional [ bleep ] impeachment. Welcome back. Lashing out at his critics and the house impeachment investigation. Seemingly growing increasingly agitated as he gets increasingly isolated. Just today, the president has tweeted more than a dozen times on everything from impeachment to hunter biden to syria and the kurds. Former majority leader harry reid and dancing with the stars. Seriously. One thing he did not mention. He did not mention this. Lets underscore that. A violent video played at a protrump conference at trumps doral resort last week. This is a still frame from the video, which was obtained by the New York Times. Were not going to play it. This is a very tame version of what it actually depicts but it does depict a fake version of President Trump shooting and stabbing and murdering members of the media, lawmakers, and others as well. This morning, the white house said that President Trump had not seen the video and that he would see it soon but that he condemned it based upon everything hes heard. But we have yet to hear from the president himself on this video. Joining me now, former Trump Campaign advisor sam nunberg. Political analyst and New York Times reporter. Serena is also a political analyst and a former Clinton Campaign advisor. And john hortz, hes the editor of commentary magazine and an msnbc contributor. Were going to put the video on hold for a moment. Sam, first i want to get your take on whats the president s state of mind right now. Hes tweeting a lot. Hes swearing a lot at campaign rallies. He seems angry. Well, he certainly feels under siege. I think the president is the one person within his inner circle who Still Believes that there is a chance he wont be impeached. This is somebody as you would well know, katy, does not want to go down in the history books as a president who faced articles of impeachment. Even if it could help him as his campaign is arguing against an election against Elizabeth Warren, it is something hes fought vociferously. I dont know if he was prepared for the backlash that he received after abandoning the kurds for erdogan. It was very funny because he spoke at the Family Research council on saturday and he had a prayer with pastor andrew brunson, who is the pastor he gained a lot of credit for with the evangelical voters for getting released from turkey. The man was held there by erdogan. So i think this is where he needs to remember that even though he has the senate under control as of now and he ultimately will because he has around 30 points more approval in the state of kentucky than Mitch Mcconnell. He cant do actions that will go in the face of his core of base. Thats a good point. He has 30 points more approval in kentucky than Mitch Mcconnell does. Seems like he has his arms tied behind his back. But i wonder, nick, if this is the perfect storm for the president. What were seeing now. Impeachment support ticking upwards. The president swearing and going a bit nutty on campaign rallies. And the serious stuff, which is just getting worse and worse by the day. Could this be what i mean, if hes going to break, if theres going to be a crack, is this when it will happen . I think weve all in the media, in washington, gotten in the habit of thinking of politics as static and unchanging. Yeah. Thinking too much about his hard core supporters and not enough about the people in the middle who didnt like him much the first time, voted for him anyway. Those people can be moved and will move and are moving and politics is not static and people are responsive to public opinion. Does syria do it . Is syria what i dont know if syria alone. Im not sure americans are predisposed to care as much as they ought to. Isis fighters getting released. Maybe not the kurds but isis fighters getting released. It is a real contrast to his message of strength and independence that he has taken these actions that have enabled russia and isis to move back into the region, which is astonishing. And if, in fact, any connection to his interest in turkey, thats going to be bad for him. What do you think . Ive think weve already broken him. I think the country is just in the middle of the process of perhaps breaking. Holding together. Democrats . Oh, no. As a country. Im not just talking as a party. Im talking as a country. President. Weve broken him. The presidency has broken him. No adult person should behave the way he behaves. If it was your parent, your friend tweeting in the middle of the night in all capital letters and cursing and acting the way that President Trump is behaving, youd probably be concerned about that person. And im not saying that to be flip. I think its actually very concerning and we are uncomfortable talking about that because that delves into sort of the psychology and the medical issues. But i think that it is a relevant issue that we cant just cast aside because its uncomfortable. Because, again, going i mean, john and i had this debate last week about how scary it is to live in this reality where donald trump behaving this way has the Nuclear Launch codes. So every single day that we wake up, that is our reality. And while, you know, folks are like, oh, you know, calm down. You know, thats what he would say to me. Calm down. Youre going too far. I think that we have to remember that reality because that is something that is true regardless of whether or not it makes us scared or not. That is a fact. He has the Nuclear Launch codes and regardless of whether or not the specific process through which lets not get into the same debate we had last week. No, im not getting into the same debate. Its an ongoing National Security threat and just because it makes us uncomfortable doesnt mean we can ignore it. Im not saying to ignore it. I want to get johns take on what republicans because republicans hold the cards in whether if hes impeached, whether he gets convicted in the senate. He needs 20 republicans. Thats a giant number. But what are republicans looking at . I mean, republicans are are up in arms over his syria decision. Lindsey graham up in arms over his syria decision. Are they watching this . And will there be a point with this where they say, gosh, i just cant any longer . I think they could say i just cant any longer but not necessarily on impeachment. On policy terms. In other words, saying this is just too much. I cant handle it. I cant handle what hes done here. He has reversed, you know, 20 years of american policy in the middle east and hes reversed 20 years of republican efforts to make a certain argument about how the world works and what happens if you if you withdrawal before youve established he is too dangerous. No. Heres what i think. Okay. If 2020 is sequel. Right . Trump election part two. You know how in sequels, they have to up the explosions . They have to have more explosions. They have to have, you know, better special effects. You think hes just going to the extreme because he needs to one up himself . I think what we see here is if he was don rickels in 2016, hes sam kenison in 2019. Hes getting harsher. Hes getting harder. Hes cursing because hes already, you know, like the other stuff is now might seem a little tame. Hes now going to these rallies. How is he going to match the energy and the enthusiasm of 20152016 . Hes got to up the temperature under them and were here. Its october and hes already going, you know, bonzo. So, you know, we ghot another year of this. And theres already been violence directly associated with his specific rhetoric. That is scary for this reason. The rallies in 2016 got very scary in some in some particular places. Especially, towards the end of the campaign. Sam, im going to direct this to you because i had a conversation thats seared in my brain with a Campaign Staffer towards the end of 2016 when things were getting really hairy out there. When journalists were getting screamed at. When supporters were coming up against the fences and giving us the bird and calling us traitors. It got really ugly. And i talked to a Campaign Staffer and i said does he care if one of us gets hurt . And the Campaign Staffer, he being donald trump, said no. And i said are you sure he doesnt care if one of us gets hurt . And the Campaign Staffer said, no, he does not care. So in looking at the video that was played at a trump pac event of media members getting slaughtered by the president , media members or his his political rivals getting slaughtered by the president. Is there a reason why weve only seen a campaign or a white house statement from the White House Communications director and not from the president himself . Well, im sure you will by tomorrow or so. You think so . Maybe on twitter once he watches the news cycle. But yeah. Why once he watches the news cycle . This is the guy who commented on a viral video of a of a of a beverage truck in an airport spinning out of control last week. Look, im not a special pleader for behavior like that and i think that Something Like this was it its absolutely disgusting and it does and it does the president , it does his core supporters no help. It doesnt do any service to them. And the idea that somebody would think that this was something that would be smart to show, especially at a rally or at an organization of young people, really goes to show that these groups need to be better better organized. But at the end of the day, from a more objective point of view, katy, when we talk about the republican party, donald trump is still raising record amounts of money. Hes still getting record amounts of people to show up at his rallies as an incumbent. And hes still polling very well in florida and ohio. So while we all see this, we have to also remember that the voters are giving him a pathway for the party itself to be able to have an argument that, look, this guy, we dont like him. And a lot of senators dont. But he has hes electable and he is controlling the Purse Strings of the party. Can i just say nick i think made an important point, which is a lot of people voted for him not liking him in 2016. But deciding that they were going to give him a shot because hillary was the alternative or whatever reason they had. And now, they really know who he is. And we dont know what effect that has. In other words, is there still a hidden trump vote thats going to pop out of nowhere . Or is it going to be the reverse . Which is he cant sell himself as an unknown. He whats going to be the breaking point . Is it going to be the impeachment hearing and everything going on with the Shadow Campaign in ukraine showing the president potentially didn potentially wanted to get a Foreign Government to meddle in the election . Is it escalating his behavior at rallies . Im not sure its a breaking point question. People always forget in discussions how campaigns are won and lost. Its not about if you win the White Working Class vote. Its about if you win part of it or more of it or even more than that. Right . Slice of the electorate. So is trump going to lose too much oxygen in too many different groups across the board . Not all the White Working Class vote. But chunks of it. Only won by 77,000 votes in michigan. Oh i remember that number every day. I think there are a lot of things that could compound and turn off those segments in different ways. And i finally say, you know what . This guy. Forget about it. Ive had enough of him. Im going to try a democrat this time. There is a flipside to that, though. Even more so than trumps base. But there are black people and they vote so especially africanamerican women who have so much power. Exactly. They win the elections. If you look all the data, we win elections. We won in november 2013. The gender gap was wide and it was mainly women of color. So thats one example. Jug jones is another example where black women made the difference. I think while its true about the White Working Class margins, its absolutely also true that turnout was down 7 among black voters in 2016. Candidate that actually speaks to the issues that black voters care about. So youre not just saying heres my plan for black people and its all about criminal justice reform. That is insulting and too many democratic campaigns do that. So thats one way to not do it correctly. But i think that you have to speak about issues of social justice and racism. If you are ignoring the issue of racism as a democratic candidate in 2020, youre doing it wrong. Zerlena, nick, john, you guys are sticking with us. Sam, thank you so much for lending your expertise. Coming up, deteriorating situation in syria. Were going live to the region as President Trump responds to pressure from his own party over his actions in turkey. Applebees new pasta and grill combos. Choose from up to 12 combinations starting at 9. 99. Heres the thing about managing for your business. 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Us welcome back. Tonight in 2020 vision, the bidens are fighting back in a new way against President Trump, who continued his attacks on hunter on twitter today. In an attempt to blunt the president s attacks on his International Business ties, hunter biden announced that he will resign his position with the Chinese Investment firm. In a statement from his lawyer, hunter also promised that if his father were elected, he would quote comply with any and all guidelines or standards President Biden may issue to address purported conflicts of interest. Hunter will agree not to serve on boards of or work on behalf of foreignowned companies. Meanwhile, the former Vice President is forcefully pushing back against the president s attacks. No one in my family will have an office in the white house, will sit in meetings as if theyre cabinet member, will in fact have any business relationship with anyone that relates to a Foreign Corporation or foreign country. Period. Period. No one. 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President trump announced about 90 minutes ago that he will soon halt trade negotiations with turkey and authorize new sanctions in response to its military offensive in northern syria. The president released a statement that reads in part turkeys action is precipitating a humanitarian crisis and setting conditions for possible war crimes. Turkey must ensure the safety of civilians, including religious and ethnic minorities and is now or may be in the future responsible for the ongoing detention of isis terrorists in the region. This all comes after President Trump essentially gave turkey a green light to launch its military offensive in the first place by announcing withdrawal of u. S. Troops in that region. A decision that forced kurds there to now turn to syrias government, once their sworn enemy, for protection against turkey which considers the kurds its enemy. Nbc News Senior International correspondent kira simmons is live in turkey just north of the syrian border. And kerry, your picture is breaking up but hopefully well be able to stick with you the next few minutesme. Last week, we were talking about what would happen if the president imposed sanctions on turkey. Whether that would would sway erdogan not to continue this offensive in northern syria. Today, hes he is going further where those sanctions. Whats the word over there . Yeah, katy. I mean, the picture may be breaking up but the picture here is pretty clear i have to say. And you remember that last week you and i spoke about it and i said i didnt think the sanctions would have that much impact. Frankly, i stick to that. I mean, look. Reality is that so often u. S. Foreign policy missteps come down to u. S. Leaders more obsessed with whats going on inside the beltway than whats actually happening around the world. And right now, you appear to have the president racing congressional leaders to see who can impose economic penalties on turkey fast enough. Well, just a short distance from here inside syria, forces loyal to ankora and forces loyal to domascus are racing to grab pieces of syrian territory. I mean, the sound of turkish artillery is far louder than any tweet President Trump can set off. So, you know, will it have an impact . The truth is that economic penalties take months to have an impact and we are talking about situation in syria that is changing by the hour. Certainly, by the day. I suspect that very soon you will see syrian dough mass cuss forces facing up against turkish forces. The real fear is whether those two forces are going to come into collision with each other and president putin is probably the only person, the only leader, whos really able to solve that. You know, back in 2016, katy, i guess you could argue that americans voted for withdrawal from the world and for other countries to take their role in sorting the worlds issues out. If that is the case, i guess those American Voters have got what they wanted. But i dont cant imagine people who voted for President Trump really wanted to see iran empowered and perhaps even russia empowered. President assad empowered. What if they say listen, its their region. Why should we be involved in their region . Bring our troops home. Yeah. Its a great question. Ill tell you what. Ill put it like this. There is there are isis, committed isis members, who are spilling out in syria for whatever reason. Be it because the kurds have walked away from those camps or prisons or because the kurds have willfully let them go. Theres no evidence of that. So thats an american Foreign Policy issue. And ill make another point, too, katy. Because if this thing unravels, spirals in an even worse way and you see clashes between turkey and president assad backed by russia, backed by iran, then you could easily see america sucked back into this situation. So i just its just not as easy as that and i wish it was. Another point, too. There are still american troops here in syria. There are american troops in syria standing defensively to stop iran from spreading further closer to the israeli border. So, you know, is President Trump going to withdrawal those troops from syria . And terrify jerusalem . This is not a simple world. And im afraid that america has huge vested interest in this region. Will continue to have and really cant cant avoid that. Who else has a vested interest in making sure isis combatants dont escape and and reform the califate . Yeah. Another great question. I think theres some real politic in this, which is that the fact is that if president assads forces do take over huge new swaths of syria get those back if you like, the isis members they encounter will be treated will not be treated simp sympathetically. Assads forces will have no sympathy for isis forces. So we have to see what plays out on the ground. 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When Congress Returns tomorrow, expect a rare show bipartisanship as republicans and democrats are moving to act quickly. Speaker nancy pelosi and Lindsey Graham teamed up. A stronger sanctions package than what the white house is suggesting. And at a time when the president needs strong support from republican senators, Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell also broke away from the president and released a Statement Today condemning his actions. He said quote i am gravely concerned by the recent events in syria and by our nations response thus far. Adding, i look forward to discussing what the United States can do to avoid a strategic calamity with my Senate Colleagues and with Senior Administration officials. Nick, zelena, and jon hortz are all back. He said the United States a bunch of times. Didnt say President Trumps name. Interesting. Hes gravely concerned. There is lots and lots of grave concern in the senate over this. Or the potential for a catastrophe like hes describing. Mitch mcconnell at least is trying to step in here and be a serious person. But it does demonstrate the republicans are cowards because they cannot criticize the president on these other issues but clearly they are capable. Whats the difference between the two issues . One issue their base, the Republican Base probably isnt going to get too pissed off at them for criticizing donald trump over syria, because americans, thats not the number one issue on our minds. But with all these other issues, i think theyre worried that if theyre seen as joining up with democrats and trying to take this inquiry seriously, that theyre sort of betraying the president. But here is the thing. The question youre asking republicans at this moment. I just want to say one more thing. Go ahead. The question were asking in this moment is do you think crimes are illegal . Because the president stood on television and committed a crime. We have spent many years through mueller coming to a collective understanding that you cannot get foreign help in an election and he did it on television. Ted cruz said it was wrong, ted cruz. The syria thing is a very specific kind of calamity. Trump got on the phone sunday night, announced that we were withdrawing our military umbrella over the kurds, and by wednesday, the turks were killing the kurds and isis fighters who had been held in captivity by the kurds were walking out of jail, like this happened directly as a result of one phone call with no intercession. So there is no its not like there are shades of gray here. Trump did something and there was an immediate world response to what happened. The turks launched a broadside against the kurds in syria. And now hes saying were going to redeploy our forces in the middle east to protect the middle east from the isis fighters. Do any of us know what that really means . I think we give him too much credit sometimes. I think he is having a lot of trouble spinning this as some form of the american interest. When you see that isis captives are being released, when you see our allies in one of the few corners of syria that is occupied by folks that like us for the most part and share some of our values being executed on the side of the road by people working for a strongman in turkey, it is very hard to argue that our National Interest is being served, or even some vague idea of strength is being served. We are being played over there right now, and this is an everything bagel of calamities and death. This is terrible. How much worse does it need to get before there is a revolution, a rebellion among republicans. Well there is going to be, tomorrow. If you want them to shift their focus on to a matter that is more to if you want this to bleed over into ukraine, that might not happen and would in fact i think lessen the response on syria, which is to say there is nowhere for trump to hide here. He said this morning that the kurds had betrayed us because they were looking for some kind of alliance with somebody so they couldnt get slaughtered. He used the term. They betrayed us. We betrayed them. They didnt betray us. This is an astonishing thing the he has done. Can another president come in and fix this and rebuild our alliances . Or have we broken it . Sure we can fix it. But the can they trust americans from administration to administration . Well, one of the things, one of the reasons you dont behave the way trump has behaved here is precisely that. You dont want to leave future president s with fewer arrows to serve and protect the american interest. And if americas word appears to be insanely unreliable, going after trumps president sy ends and im not him, so everything is going to be fine, thats not necessarily going to happen. Do you need a bigger name officials, former officials or even officials that might still work in the administration to come out and condemn the president or explain to the American Public why this syria stuff is such a big deal . Is it enough for senator mcconnell or Lindsey Graham to say this is a bad decision . As a pr matter maybe it would help the trump antisyria attitude to have john bolton come out forthrightly or one of these officials coming out forthrightly. It will matter more if republican officials separate themselves from trump. Thats actually meaningful. I think were already seeing the movement. Honestly, wooer seeing the movement. The statement from mcconnell is evidence from that. I believe it bleeds into the impeachment to have that kind of a front. Nick confessore, zerlina maxwell, john podhoretz, everyone, thank you very much. Good to see you on this monday. And ahead, were naming names. Hmm. Exactly. 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While there are many more details to come, there is already one truth that is beyond dispute. If your business name sounds kind of illegal, it might be a good idea to change the business name. Thats why you dont see drycleaners money launders or kitchen Renovation Contractors called counterfitters, or a commercial landscaper called shady business, or tennis lessons from the racketeers. Take my advice. Dont let your company fall to a shady name. Because thats an awfully nice business youve got there. It would be a shame if something happened to it. The beat with ari melber starts right now. Ari melber, thats the first one of those i have done in a while. Very fun. What do you call those . We call them in case you missed it. And whats the inspiration . Fraud guarantee and mafia rave, as we just illustrated. Have you considered introducing a laugh track . Or you consider the silence after each punch line . No, because the laugh is my own. Its 6 00 and 17 seconds, and i know your epa is yelling at you to get on with the news. Well, katy tur, we always love to see you in the toss. And a special thank you for joining us for your first fallback friday. You were great together. Youre invited back. Katy tur, thank you very much. Thanks. Welcome to the beat tonight. We are tracking several