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To our lex con, texadus. I am chuck todd here in new york city. In britain it was parliament that said enough. In hong kong it was the people. And now were left wondering if those are omens for the Trump Presidency or not. 21 conservatives went rogue on their leader yesterday, Boris Johnson, over his attempts to sideline parliament on brexit. Today parliament defied him in a vote to delay brexit. These conservative leaders risked their careers to defy their leader and set in motion a process that could remove Boris Johnson from power. Thats quite the contrast of how the conservative members of congress here have been unwilling to buck mr. Trump. Many of them if they want to buck him, they retire. See the texadus story. But Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell wont even move on gun measures without things being blessed by trump first. Another gop retirement reminds us in many cases republicans would rather leave than fight this president. Thats seemingly how republicans revolt against trump. They dont stand up, they sit down. Then theres hong kong where millions of people stood up to what they saw as an antidemocratic power grab, eventually winning key concessions from the Chinese Government but the people still wanting more. You can see maybe where im going here. President trump has called himself mr. Brexit and Boris Johnson President Trump. Parliaments revolt against one leader and the peoples revolt in hong kong against another make you wonder what happens here . Lets face it, a big part of that question comes down to how do the democrats look at all of this. Joining me here on set, beth fouhy, Zerlina Maxwell and elise jordan. So i start with this because was election was this moment, okay, was this a disruption going on in western democracies. Now, part of this has to do with how do you still view the 2016 election. Do you view it as an election that was hijacked and stolen or do people view it as a singular important moment in the history of this democracy . Wow. Thats a heavy place to start the show. Look, i dont think we know the answer to that yet. Historians will look back and tell us. Its a bit of both. Brexit was the canary in the coal mine for this president. People were shocked that it happened but the same forces at work then, people frustrated with globalism, people frustrated with the notion that those elected into office were not listening to the people, it was clear looking now looking at what happened in england that we were on a similar track. There was something happening. Remember trump was there in scotland the next day. He basically said, look, i predicted this all along. I dont know if he did. But he hinted that what was going on and what he was detecting as the republican candidate for president is whats likely happening here and it turned out to be correct. Zerlina, one of the reasons i wanted to connect these dots today. And its possible they just draw a line between two dots. But it does feel like in this age of disruption, okay, were a country whose politics trump was one steam valve. But we havent let the steam valve out on the gun issue or the immigration issue. It feels like were due for a moment. I dont know when it is and how it is and what it looks like, but we might be there too. I think the moment started the day after donald trump was sworn into office. We forget that the day after donald trump was sworn into office, millions of people marched, it was the largest march in the history of the country. How many of those people didnt vote in the election . Certainly a very important question. The day i was at the womens march that was my thought. I wish these people had come out in november instead of today. But were here now. What we saw in 2018 is the action and activism that started the day after donald trump was sworn in did not end that day. Those people went home, they organized, they signed up in their local communities, they signed up to run for something, they signed up for emilys list. They calls and found out how to get trained to run for office. And by the way, it worked. Exactly. So what im saying is this is not a moment, its actually an Ongoing Movement powered by actual people and large lly wom and women of color specifically who are looking at the status quo and saying i do not see myself or my concerns reflected in the leadership of this country. I can go change that. If donald trump can be the president of the United States, certainly i can run for congress or try to change my local community. I think more women are actually stepping up to the plate and thats actually the moment that were seeing. Its still an ongoing moment. Elise, let me tackle it from another perspective here which is one from the right and that has to do with the mps that stood up to johnson and said, you know what, this is a mistake. Lets not rush to this, this is a mistake. Country before party. Whatever that is, they decided country before party. Why hasnt that been contagious . The simplistic argument would be, oh, theyre more moral over there in the uk, theyre just doing the right thing. I think, though, youre seeing whats happened in the aftermath of brexit in years now of ongoing political turmoil. And i am lucky enough to work with a british polling group, Lord Ashcroft polls and its very interesting to talk to british pollsters about their political situation in contrast to us. They say brexit is forever. You have trump only for four years. But you also when we were looking during 2016 and going around to battleground states, they identified, because brexit had just happened. We were looking for patterns that possibly would indicate a similar occurrence over here, and they pinpointed people are ready for change and they dont care if they dont know what the change is, theyre willing to vote for radical change. Theyre willing to vote for something that they dont know about. Now brexit is becoming a little clearer what the implications will be. How it will affect youth in britain, how it will affect their economy. Over here, how many years into Donald Trumps presidency. We watch how he is literally tweeting and calls the markets by day and so perhaps republicans are starting to see they need to take a stand sometimes against his unhinged nature. I dont know if democrats have agreed upon what to learn from 2016. Zerlina, would you accept that . I feel like biden and warren are two different versions of this. Warren is change. Youve got to run on this. Biden is this is chaotic. Are you tired of it . Whats the answer . Personally i am more on the side of Elizabeth Warren. Its not a knock on joe biden, but simply the status quo or going back to what we had before donald trump was not good for certain constituencies. So youre saying disruption should be answered with new disruption. And policy plans to back that up. Elizabeth warren isnt just saying im going to take on the banks and wall street, shes saying how shes going to do that, step by step by step, and also adding in i know Mitch Mcconnell exists and so theres even sort of an element to how im going to deal with that as well. Thats an important piece of it because were not living in a fantasy world. So i think in this particular moment, the Elizabeth Warren model is something i personally am more in alignment with because i do think think going back to pretrump was good for people of color. They were still getting killed by the police and we were getting discriminated against and all of those things are still true. This ties into what you said earlier about the millions of people who marched on january 21st, 2017, and then we saw the gun march and there were some spurts of activism. Ever since the 2018 election, weve seen nothing. Nothing. Youre not seeing it in the street. Hong kong, everybody went to the street. One thing drove them into the streets. They were willing to face down tear gas, willing to face down violence to get to their goal. I sense that there is a numbness in this country where they watch thats going on and feel a little powerless and hopeless. That is what makes me wonder about what the end result will be in this election. Is it disruption that youre describing that people want or get me out of feeling so numb. I do think thats true that certainly there isnt a large march that you can put a camera in front of and say this is people trying to create change. The movement is happening online and social media as well. People are connecting. Twitter activism gets a bad rap but it actually is connecting people to do things in the real world and i think that even though were not seeing those large marches, its not that people are not willing to go outside and get tear gassed. Black lives matter did that for years and years and years before they get any credit about it. Then theres the man who cant admit when hes wrong and has a sharpie. The absurdity of he cant even like say, yeah, i misspoke. No biggie, i misspoke. In fact lets go through this craziness, because this is why joe biden feels good every day. You showed us a map earlier and it appeared to have been edited or something to include alabama. Can you explain how that change no, i just know i know that alabama was in the original forecast. They thought it would get it as a piece of it. It was supposed to go actually we have a better map than that which is going to be presented where we had many lines going directly many models, each line being a model and they were going directly through. In all cases alabama was hit if not lightly in some cases pretty hard. Georgia, alabama, it was a different route. They actually gave that a 95 chance probability. It turned out that that was not what happened. It made the right turn up the coast. But alabama was hit very hard and was going to be hit very hard along with georgia. But under the current they wont be. Georgia will be possibly. Were going to see. Were right at that point right now. But i think georgia will be in great shape. Everyone is going to be in great shape because were going to take care of it regardless, regardless. But the original path was through florida. That was probably three days i think thats probably three or four days old. The original path that most people thought it was going to be taking as you know was right through florida where on the right would have been georgia, alabama, et cetera. And that map that you showed us today looked like there was a sharpie. I dont know, i dont know. I think we have the maps, elise. He was so serious about this. Heres the real map. This was the one that we think hes referring to. The cone of uncertainty doesnt even get to florbama. He missed alabama too. Thats an official, i think, sharpie. Not unofficial sharpie. When its a sharpie, its permanent. But this is the part where youre just like what did we disrupt . Exactly. You get this is the disruption you want . You get President Trumps ignorance and aub stin ans and his complete inability to tell the truth and his lack of basic geograp geography. I think a 13yearold that doctors their report card, their reports usually can do. They dont do that good of a job. Im showing my age, the day we had handwritten report cards, but still. I remember a dumb third grade version of myself that tried to trace my dads signature. This is the level that hes operating. Hes not smooth and savvy enough to not tell absolutely ridiculous dumb lies. And this is the stories, beth, that on one hand feel absurd and on the other hand feel emblematic of the trump era. And there are these moments that certainly like why are we covering it so much and at the same time it tells you so much. But this goes back to the point i was making earlier. It renders people numb. They dont know how to respond. Small and large that President Trump does every day, if it was any other president would have created a huge firestorm. People are like, eh, its President Trump. Thats why i dont know where this is leading in terms of whats the next disruption. What does that mean, zerlina, to democrats. Oh, thats just President Trump. Is this why biden is alive . Hes not just alive in, some case he hovers over the field. Look, i dont think that any democrats are waking up, oh, thats just trump. I dont care, these have life and death consequences. Even though its ridiculous and were rolling our eyes because literally he made no sense there. He said georgia is not going to get hit, then theyre going to get hit. He contradicts himself every sentence. And joe biden has a gaffe problem. Tuouche. I dont think biden is in the lead because democrats are complacent. No, i take your point. I think hes in the lead because we have not elected anything except men who are white. Barack obama is half white. So i just think that we still have not elected a woman and we have to understand that thats still going to be a hard thing so people are going to biden because he seems a little safer at this moment. Ill put safer in quotes. Thank you. Beth, zerlina and elise, stick around. President trump is taking billions from military projects to fund the border wall and hes doing it without congressional approval. Thats supposed to be a nono. Democrats have the majority in the house. What do they plan to do to push back on him . Plus a fifth Congressional Republican from the Lone Star State is announcing his retirement. So texodus is getting serious in 2020 and well have a deep dive on that, later. 2020 and well have a deep dive on that, later orking harder. Thats why, your cash automatically goes into a Money Market Fund when you open a new account. And fidelitys rate is higher than etrades, td ameritrades, even 10 times more than schwabs. Plus only fidelity has zero account fees and zero minimums for retail brokerage and retirement accounts. Just another reminder of the value youll only find at fidelity. Open an account today. And now for their serviceelity. To the community, we present limu emu doug with this key to the city. 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When you have thousands of people trying to rush our country, i think thats thanks for joining us thats national security. He had very good conversations with very members of congress. With me is congresswoman madeline dean, a member of the house judiciary and Financial Services committee. Congresswoman dean, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me, chuck. Let me start directly with that. Look, you guys went to court to try to stop this National Emergency. He has it looks like he has the legal right to do this. If thats the case, what can congress do . I believe, and we saw in statements by speaker pelosi, that well be in court defending against this grab. Just think about it. It was a wall that is going to be completely ineffective against the problems that we do face at our border that are very real and the Inhumane Treatment of migrants, especially children there, as imposed by this administration. But to take 3. 6 billion, insist that a wall be built by election day, in other words, abuse of his president ial power for political and personal gain. Well be fighting him in court, im confident of that. I understand that, but i believe the court said his use of the National Emergencies act here was in his purview, no . I do know back the decision a couple of months ago, yes. But in light of recent facts you think you can go back to court . I believe we have a strategy to go back and to block it. Theres another avenue that you have if you believe hes violated the constitution. Im very eager to continue that. Were back in session on monday. We have important oversight and investigations to do, specifically in the area of impeachment. As i said, this is a political, personal move. Imagine any other elected official saying do this, spend this money that was not allocated for these resources before election day to help my reelection. And actually what i think is strange is that its a failed strategy. He has told people that go forward, dont worry about em negligent dou eminent domain, environmental problems or contract rights. I think hell have people up in arms on the border when he tries to take personal, private property for his political gain to build a big black wall along 175 miles. Its ineffective, its stupid, it is i hear its this administration. I guess i go back to what you just said, though. Youre making a case that it violates the constitution. And youre not the only one. A lot of democrats have made this case. How is how is an article of impeachment not the next avenue if the courts are going to claim that he has this power . Well, i think you saw that just before we went for district wor work that jerry nadler and our entire committee steered the ship in the direction of now impeachment investigations. So that we can put these facts before the American People and draft appropriate articles of impeachment. Thats what we have had to. And you know, chuck, youve been watching it. Weve been obstructed at every turn and we had to go go to court to authorize our subpoenas. Right. I was just going to say while you still may have some obstruction issues, if you actually formalize yourself as an impeachment inquiry, you become a grand jury and have a lot more power. So i guess the question is, where is the committee on that debate . You know what, ill tell you when we get back. I dont think we feel that we lack any power. But you do. Don mcgahn is not there. The point is i say this not i think if you have a white house not cooperating, youre leaving some power on the table i guess with the better way to put it. The very thing weve done is go into court to compel don mcgahn and used the language impeachment investigation. The court recognizes that language as signaling the dire need for a quick decision. So i look forward to a quick decision getting don mcgahn in front of us, lewandowski and other players in the important mueller report. I really want to remember whats going on here. This is a president who is in a panic. In some ways the walls are closing in on him and so hes ordered his pentagon to do this 3. 6 billion taking. This is taking away from 127 military construction projects, half here and half around the world. It will affect our cyber security, our drone security, our possible readiness. Imagine that the president wants to do that for a vanity wall that will be ineffective, all the while, while he harms children. I hope youre looking at the reports, the dire reports you just read my mind. I was just about to ask you. This is the i. G. Report from the health and Human Services Inspector General. I assume thats what youre referring to. Yes, i am. Go, continue. Well, its heartbreaking. But weve been seeing it. Weve had hearings on immigration in judiciary where it is very apparent that the administration has no idea how many children they have separated from their parents. Literally they have no count. They dont know. We know the dire consequences, the lifelong consequences to children. In part of that report i read something that maybe adults dont think about. When the child and parent are separated, the childs world is quite small. They know the comfort of their parent, of their family. They dont know the political process or the pawn or the evil, cruel nature of this Administration Using these children. So who do they believe . They believe horrible things. Number one, that they were abandoned by their own parent. Number two, they think their parent was killed or maybe they will be killed. Think of that the small beautiful world, the precious world of a child and rip a parent away. They feel abandoned. That will have lifelong consequences. The Inspector General has pointed it out, others have pointed it out and i have pointed it out at hearings with our immigration officials. Congresswoman, you point out i compel people to read the i. G. Report because it is a tough read on exactly what you just described. Brutal. The impact these were not teenagers. These were young kids 7, 6. And the mental impact on them that the ig puts out there. Its one of those you cant believe the policy hasnt changed if more people see this i. G. Report. Chuck, i was at the border. I wanted to make sure i saw the border. I went to clint and saw children behind glass. They literally would not let us speak or get near the children. They had them in a cell meant for adults. If you read that i. G. Report, some of the expressions the children say, they say physically their heart hurts, their heartbeat hurts. They are so emotionally wounded that they feel as though their heart is breaking. When we talk to the children between the glass, i held up a sign and said we heart you, we love you. These children have no idea why theyre standing in a cell, a cold cell behind glass, not able to see their parents, separated from them with the cruellest of tactics. And you know what the guard said to me when i did that . He stopped me from doing that. How dare you, what are you doing . I said im communicating that were here to help, we love them. These children need love and support and this administration has cruelly harmed them for a lifetime. Congresswoman dean, im so glad you did bring up that i. G. Report. Like i said, people just need to read it, pure and simple. Thank you. Thanks for coming on. Well be watching when you get back to town next week. Up next, the latest on hurricane dorian. The aftermath it leaves behind in the bahamas and what to expect as it churns up the east coast. S up the e co ast ast. Very our 18 year old was in an accident. 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What began as a trickle of republican retirements is threatening to turn into a flood. Joining me now, Abby Livingston and back is the panel of beth, zerlina and elise. Abby, let me start with you. Its interesting. Really of the five, and lets put up our list of the five here, because we also have how trump did in the 2016 elections. You would say will hurd is probably the one that is in the most trouble. Hes in a democrats plus 3 seat or at least clinton plus 3. But everybody else has been in, you know, their lean republican seats but marchant and olson and even flores, are they nervous something is coming . What do you make of all of this and should we connect these dots . Well, i dont really put flores in that much of a competitive category. Anything can change in this era and we had a lot of shocks this cycle. Its austin east. And it goes up to waco which is very conservative and then to college station, which is also conservative. But what i think is happening in texas, and texas is a leading indicator because our filing deadline is before everyone elses. I think were starting to get into territory in the House Republican culture where this is a social place, congress. These people are friends. I think were starting to get to a point where people are looking around and going my friends are not coming back. This is getting less and less of a fun i know congress shouldnt be fun, but less joy to be had in serving in congress. So i think were entering into that territory. Elise, you know capitol hill well. Youve worked on capitol hill and youve got are you hearing this chatter on the right . I think abby is making a good point that doing the job in the era of trump isnt that much fun for republicans, especially if youre a republican in texas and you have a lot of minority constituents who are constantly being inflamed by Donald Trumps rhetoric. So when the job just isnt that much fun to begin with, when you have to spend an outsized portion of your time fundraising and not law making to begin with and then youre in the era of trump where no law making is happening, would you cut and run . I dont know. It looks like texas lawmakers are. Beth, these things become selffulfilling. And here republicans donald trump says, hey, were going to win the house back if i win reelection. Well, not if people keep retiring. It becomes selffulfilling here. Its amazing, we looked at this as a phenomenon. The year after a turnover in the house, the party that lost control does ending up having more retirements. But to elises point, this job had all sorts of things about it that were not fun to begin with. The nonstop fundraising. The going home to make sure youre being seen and your constituents know youre there, plus bringing you back to washington to do whatever work is being done which doesnt seem like much thats productive. Plus these guys are in the minority. President trump may try to assure them theyll win the House Majority back but these guys dont really believe that. Its really regrettable not just because its supposed to be fun but the work is supposed to be meaningful. This congress has been so polarized so long. When was the last time anything meaningful got done. On the senate side im saying Lamar Alexander can point to things he got passed and pat roberts has been around. But im looking at some of these house members. What are they going put in their resumes that they did . Congress hasnt done much. What have they been doing this whole time . Theyre in the minority. The Democratic Senators get nothing accomplished. Whats the point . To the point about what they got done, in kenny marchants case, he came in the tea party wave. Their whole brand was were not doing things. They wanted to not spend money. Because of the budget. So i think whats ironic about that is that their whole brand was about sort of being the stopgap against any progressive legislation barack obama wanted to pass but obamacare did happen so a lot of democrats lost their seats as a result of that. If donald trump, like he says, has the coat tails to win back the house, you would not be seeing this. You wouldnt see 23 democrats running for president against him either. Abby, this is also telling me that leadership doesnt have much sway over these folks. They dont seem you know, leadership doesnt like to be shocked by these stories because they become stories like were talking about here. Uhoh, retirement flu, it gets contagious. I take it they have tried to talk these guys out of retiring and its not worked. How many more do you expect just in texas . At least one. Theres rumors flying elsewhere. I mean all of these members, there have been rumors. But one thing and i know this shows inside ball so im going to go there. These texas members who were in safe seats, part of their role in the elections has always been to raise money for the nrcc, the house gop campaign arm. When these guys retire, theyre done raising money. They dont want to do this anymore. So this will be a hit to the National Committee as well because they would use that money in competitive races elsewhere in places like california or new jersey, so this is a tough thing. You know, beth, one of the things that weve been debating internally is over the last couple of weeks, some odd stars, theyre not aligned yet for the democrats, but whether its another retirement in a Georgia Senate seat that expands the senate map, a few more retirements here on the house level. The opportunity that democrats have in 2020 is out there to create a governing mandate. The question is whether they have the resources and whether they have the candidates to actually pull it off. Right. And weve seen a lot of really promising potential stars who could have stepped into these seats not doing it. They dont have Steve Bullock in montana, they dont have stacey abrams. And i dont pass judgment on any of these guys to make the decision they want to make but its something that the National Democrats would hope to see. Stacey abrams run in georgia, Steve Bullock run in montana. Without really strong candidates ready to jump in and do the fundraising thats required, do the work thats required to run against trumps tweets and whomever is going to be the trump candidate, thats still very offputting for a lot of people. Let me go with the final question to abby, and thats this. Other than ampedup rhetoric about democrats talking about texas, are you seeing more than rhetoric about trying to play in every level of politics in texas . Are you seeing actually Party Resources being put in . Do you think theyll try to put this state in play for the president ial . I think if it becomes competitive at the president ial, its because of what theyre doing underneath that. We need to watch the congressional races and state house of representatives. They are serious about gains on both levels. How serious is the state house . How much progress could they make . Theyre nine seats down. Early this year there was sources would tell me theyre going after it. We would sort of laugh at them. Now its becoming a reality. And so its a thing. Imagine 2020, it could look like 1980 in reverse. There is a scenario. Its not a 50 chance, not a 1 , might be in the 10 . But youre starting to see all this. Maybe something is afoot. Abby, thanks very much. Beth, zerlina and elise, what a wonderful gathering here in new york, thank you. Up ahead, its some of the best political theater weve seen in ages. Plus 2020 president ial contender tom steyer joins me with what he would do on day one. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. 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Order these are actual members of the British Parliament screaming, hollering, and being generally cantankerous. As we said at the top of the show, all that disruptiveness actually led to something. So whether you agree with Nodeal Brexit or not, parliament did a thing. You know, who cant say that . Oh, congress and i think i know what the problem is there. Its called the rules of decorum. Everybody is all gentleman this, gentlewoman that. They all loathe each other. They dig in their heels and nothing gets done. Its passive aggression run amok. Maybe its time to plunge into a caniption fit. Honestly, which of these would you rather watch . Youre watching cspan. Americas source for congressional hearings and classical music. You know, for over a hundred years, americas railways, roadways and runways and rivers were the envy of the entire world. Over 600,000 bridges, 11,300 miles of Public Transit systems. Youre watching seethespan, britains parliamentary smackdown network. 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Joining me now is said democratic president ial candidate tom stier. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me. I want to talk details. One of the things you said is on day one youll use the National Emergency powers of the presidency. This is not the first time we brought him up on the show. Thats the powers hes using now to divert pentagon money to try to build that wall. You want to use the same powers to combat Climate Change. At the same time youre trying to cojule congress to give you the power to do it. It gives the president over 150 separate powers. The kinds of things to set regulations about how energy is generated, what kind of schedule wed be on for e verv for elect vehicles. All kinds of rules you can put in from the presidency to protect the health and safety of americans. Iltds ask congre i would ask n the first 100 days to pass some form of the green new deal. Were in an emergency that is threatening the health and safety of every living american and every american in the future. I think Mother Nature has a schedule of her own. For 28 years the congress of the United States has failed to act on climate. I think at this point Mother Nature schedule has overtaken our schedule and we need to respond. Thats my first point. My second point is this, we know this is a global crisis. The only way we solve this is with a Global Coalition led by the United States of america. Thats what president obama did. Unless we have our house in order, how do we go to india, china, to every country in the world and say please do the right thing unless we are doing the right thing. I want to go back to the president ial power issue. I say this, i dont mean to fixate on it. You said youll have 150 separate powers. You can decide to set the standards of electric vehicles. Should the president alone be doing that or is this sort of youre going to send an outline of what you hope to have and congress is the one that actually should be doing this. Im a little confused here. Are you going to be declarative . This is the equivalent of war powers for the president. You want that . You believe the next president should have these kind of powers to do this . This should not be done through congress. This is too much of an emergency to take out it have the president s hands, is that fair . What im saying is this, i would give congress 100 days. Thats over three months to pass some form of the green new deal. Were talk about is a threat to the held and safety of every american. The president s job as commander in chief, number one job is to protect the health and safety of every american. I can also tell you, chuck, as a businessman, that i have studied this for well over a decade and i know that we can do this in a way that will create my plan creates 46 million jobs. Its better for the economy of the United States, its better for the wages of working americans and the health in terms of clean air and clean water of the people of the United States. We have to do this. Thats why im making it a priority. Thats why im saying on day one its job one. If youre not willing to do this, we are going to be in a situation where congresss tame table is completely out of sorts with Mother Natures and youre risking the health and safe of e eve every american. Is there a part of the Climate Change plan of yours. It does seem as if the public feels overwhelmed by the issue. Theres almost its not clear where to begin. Youre presenting it as an almost overwhelming problem because it is. How do you bring the country along the raelealize its a solvable problem. At times its like this is so enormous, i cant do anything. The truth is the exact opposite is right. I can tell you ive studied this. I know what it will take to do this. I know we can do it. What sacrifice will americans have to make to do this . This is what americans will have to do. Were going to have to take back our government. Im running on the idea of a broken government in washington, d. C. A government thats been bought by corporations. Theres been a hostile corporate takeover of our government in d. C. We have to restore government of by and for the people. Theres no place where thats more obvious than in terms of the oil and Gas Companies and in terms of our Energy Policies and climate. They are calling the tune and risking the health and safety of every american. Im saying we need to call that out and we need to act. We need to not only tell the truth but chuck we can do this. Im highly confident that we have the ability to do this in a way that will make us richer and healthier and get us back to i want to go back. Are you asking anything of the American Public . Will they have to sacrifice something whether its financial or some creature comfort of sorts . What im asking the American People to do is to show up. Im asking us to do exactly what im doing. To recognize a problem. To show up. Particularly politically. Insist on a solution. If the American People insist on something, we get it. I think its time for us to realize that if we break this corporate strangle hold and stabilize the Natural World were in a position thats better than any people in the history of the planet. I dont mean to be interrupted but i lose the satellite window youre participating in in 15 seconds. Thank you for coming on and sharing your views. Stay safe. I bet well be talking again soon. Well be back tomorrow with more meet the press. The beat starts now. Good evening. We have a lot to get to. President trump could not get mexico to pay for the wall. He has a new back up plan. Did donald trump doctor a Weather Forecast with a sharpie. Adult film star stormie daniels offering to testify publicly about her alleged dealings with donald trump and the illegal hush money payments. In any other presidency that would be the top story all night. Moscow mitch complaining about another nickname as he faces more on gun control. We begin with