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Russian election interference. Seriously. Welcome to friday. Its meet the press daily. Im chuck todd after a whirlwind couple of days in miami which included a night which may have fundamentally changed the race. After last night, the frontrunner joe biden looks vulnerable. The headlines were, well, pretty ugly. Just look at some of them. The campaign and the candidate himself have spent today trying to clean up some of that mess. Still, they are facing some tough questions about what happened last night and what happens next. In just a moment i will be joined here on set by bidens Deputy Campaign manager, who will be here to answer some of those tough questions we hope. Folks, bidens performance last night was uneven at best. And Kamala Harris had the breakout moment that her campaigns been looking for by assailing him with campaigns he made about working with segregationist lawmakers. It was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose bussing. And, you know, there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her Public Schools, and she was bussed to school every day. And that little girl was me. And if you want a measure of the campaigns concern about was happened last night, take a look at how the candidate himself responded today. I want to be absolutely clear about my record of position on Racial Justice including bussing. I never, never, never ever opposed voluntary bussing. And as a program that senator harris participated in and it made a difference in her life. I did support federal action to address root causes of segregation in our schools and communities including taking on the banks and redlining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. Ive always been in favor of using federal authority to overcome statenirked segregation. I thought my heart out to ensure that Voting Rights, equal rights are enforced everywhere. These rights are not up to the states to decide, theyre our federal governments duty to decide. Its a constitutional question to protect the civil rights of every single american, and thats always been my position. Heres the thing about last night in many ways it exposed the biden campaigns biggest joining me now is the Deputy Campaign manager kate beddingfield. Kate, thanks for coming in. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Let me put up the collection of headlines here. Theyre not. As you can see joe biden gets slammed, politico. You tell me. What say you, what happened . Well, look. I would say that democratic voters actually disagree with our assessment because we actually had the best hour of fundraising in our campaign during the debate since the philadelphia rally. So, you know, i think we saw joe biden put forward an aggressive, progressive vision for the future. He talked about his Climate Change plan. He talked about his health care plan. He really used the opportunity last night, you know, not to get engaged with the other candidates but to speak directly to the american voters. And i think you heard him give a really particularly personal, passionate answer about health care and why he feels motivated to ensure that every family has the kind of ka irthat his family had. How much have you raised . We will share at the end of the quarter. Its not a deflection. It is a reflection of how people feel about joe biden and the energy for his campaign, and you will see those dollar figures at the end of the quarter. There are some people that watched the debate and asked is he adequately prepared. Youve got some blind quotes out there. Youve got a campaign that has some fundraisers that will talk on the record, all that stuff. But the seems to be painting an image that he didnt want to do a lot of debate prep. Thats absolutely not true. He was absolutely prepared. Again, i think you saw him make his case. And the argument that hes making in this primary is actually sort of a unique one and actually a pretty transformational one at this moment in our politics. Hes really arguing that we need to get back to a place where compromise and consensus are not dirty words and where government actually gets things done for people. Hes somebody whos done this in the trump era. I think that gets lost a lot in the discussion of whether this vision of government is, you know, sort of the moment. Well, in december of 2016 after trump had been elected he successfully worked with republicans to get multibillion dollars investment in Cancer Research done. So, you know, i think what do you think of Michael Bennets criticism that says, you know what, he cut this deal with Mitch Mcconnell on Mitch Mcconnells term. I think if you remember the the fiscal cliff. Absolutely. Raised taxes by 600 billion on the wealthy. And, remember, we were in a place where economists were saying that if we went over the cliff we were looking at doing potentially irreparable damage to our economy. And who was sent in to make that deal and to get things done and to make that work for the American People. And, again, convince republicans to raise taxes for the first time in probably a generation on the wealthy. One of the things obviously we let this play out, Vice President biden did try to explain his record. I want to play it here and get you to talk about any other side. Uhhuh. Its a mischaracterization of my position across the board. I did not praise racists. That is not true. Number one. Number two, if we want to have this campaign litigated on who supports civil rights and whether i did or not, im happy to do that. Do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose bussing in america . No. Do you agree . I did not oppose bussing in america. What i opposed is bussing ordered by the department of education. Thats what ooh iopposed. I was part of the second class to integrate berkeley, california, Public Schools almost who days after brown v board of education. Because your city council made that decision. So thats when the federal government must step in. Thats why we have the Voting Rights act and the civil rights act. Did he correctly explain his record . So i think whats happening here is the conflation of desegregation and bussing. He has throughout his career has always been for the desegregation of schools. I mean, that is not a question. That is something that is, you know, unequivocally something hes fought for. Civil rights were a part of a big motivator for him to get into politics in the first place. And so, you know, i think the other key thing here but what was he fighting on bussing . At the time was he fighting because people were upset that their kids were being bussed to schools that were of a different ethnicity . So i think the other key thing to remember here is that he was tackling the fundamental issues that get that better get at systemic racism in this country than bussing because. And he has always believed that the federal government plays a Critical Role in protecting civil rights. I mean, he is the person who fought for the 25year extension of the Voting Rights act. You know, hes for the e. R. A. He believes we should pass the equality act. When i heard him say i was fighting the department of education, the only people that trashed the department of education in my lifetime have been on the right. It was a very it was one of those youre like what . He has never look, as he said today, i think you heard him make the case for himself best today. Does he think he was on the wrong side of this issue . No. He said he has never been against voluntary bussing. And, you know, if you look at his education proposal, which includes a commitment to extend the Obama Biden Administration commitment to finish the job on integration in schools under the department of education. So, i think, again, i think the American People know joe biden, they know his character. He was Vice President with barack obama for eight years, and i dont think anybody believes that when barack obama took a look at his record that he decided he was going to put a segregationist on the ticket. I think this is a heavy lift to try to suggest the American People that joe biden is a segregationist. Nothing could be further from the truth. Does the Vice President think this was a fair hit . Look, its a debate and people are going to try to score points, and thats fine, and thats how debates work. So he is focused on his message on making sure that hes communicating directly with the American People. Thats what you saw him do last night. And this is how politics goes. So, apparently mpr has an interview from 1975 where then joe biden said he would support a constitutional amendment to end mandated bussing. Look, i think what voters care most about is not the back and forth on the ins and outs of specific pieces of legislation or amendments from the senate in 1975. They care about what the person is going to do as president. I understand that. As you heard him articulate. Should this stuff matter, and should voters wonder where was he in the 70s . Hey, look, was he reflective of the times . In the 70s he was an advocate for civil rights as he has been his entire career, as he was for his eight years in office in the white house and as he will be when hes elected president of the United States. I dont think anybody in this country has a question about whether joe biden would be an at var civil rights. Last night on the debate stage, the issue of health care for undocumented immigrants came up. I want to first play pretty much probably the most famous moment from president obama speeches in the well of congress in the famous you lie moment. There are also those who claim that our Reform Efforts would ensure illegal immigrants. This too is false. The reforms i am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. You lie. [ crowd reacting] thats not true. Now the Vice President biden said he would not support expanding obamacare to that. When did you change his view . Excuse me, i think you heard him articulate last night a very effective argument for why this is humane and also economically sound. Is this something hes come around to recently . Is this in the last couple years . He has always been an advocate for ensuring that everybody in our society has equal access to opportunity, and that includes the peace of mind that comes with health care and the plan that hes putting forward which will allow more americans in this country to have access to health care would include covering undocumented immigrants. He said Something Else last night that was pretty interesting. On obamacare. He said we must should move. I am against any democrat who opposes and takes down obamacare and any republican who wants to get rid of obamacare. What does that mean on any democrat who wants to take down or oppose obamacare . Is he saying were going to get obamacare implemented first before you start trying that . It means exactly what it sounds. He believes that obamacare extended critical provisions, ensured that people could not be kicked off insurance so hes against any democrat he is going to fight tooth and nail against any democrat whos going to try to tear down obamacare. He thinks its critical protection for people in this country, and thats something that hes going to advocate for when hes president of the United States. Kate bedingfield, youve had a long, im guessing, week or two or days or who knows if you know what day of the week it is. Im not sure myself. Thanks for innicoming in. I appreciate it. After strong performances by warren and harris, where does the democratic field stand today . And all this hour were going to show you some of the highlights from night two of the debate with buttigieg being asked about the police shooting. The police force is now 6 black in a city that is 26 black. Why has that not improved over your two terms as mayor . Because my community couldnt get it done. 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Now he can say in 30 and 60 seconds you cant fully litigate a civil rights record, but i did not think he was as crisp as he needed to be. He seemed less prepared for that attack than he mightve been, and jarred by it. But i also thoukt there were other moments in the debate where he was not as strong as he needed to be. And i think overall the performance reraised the kinds of questions that have always been out there. But because it was in front of 20 million people, they become magnified. So its a serious problem. Look, i think that the question we all had, jen and doug, was simply what was things going to look like after these first two debates. I think its fair to say bidens looks beatable now. Whether he is or not, the perception is, oh, he looks a little wobbly. Hes gettable. And that alone may be the Biggest Development for the field so far. Is that fair . Yeah. I think that, um, you know, he had the hyde amendment, and then he had the segregationist week, and then he had a shaky performance at debates, and he is normally very good at debates. But what we have seen at each of these moments is democratic voters dont seem to care. So, i dont know, maybe this is a time i think that bidens strength is people think hes a safe choice, they think that hes the best opportunity we have to beat trump. And if he starts to look, i dont think its the issue behind these flubs, its whether or not he appears to be shaky, and then do people start to lose confidence. But certainly in july its not just Kamala Harris who is going to be on the debate stage, its going to be a bunch of folks. To raise the stakes, right . It raises the stakes a lot on him, and that could mean because i think if he does start to fall, its going to be fast because what hes built on this illusion of this notion of strength. This is one of those things. So, doug, do you sort of agree with jen that if he doesnt sort of right the ship in july, its a cliff . I think its a little bit too early to get there. Okay. I want to see where we are next week. Because, to jens point, hes shown some resilience, and his support from africanamericans has been relatively durable. We will see what happens next week. But i actually think if we look at the race, i thought kamala had a very good night last night. But the person that i was most impressed with was Elizabeth Warren. And the first night and we kind of forget about the first night, but she had the most consistent, most coherent message. And shes been that way from the beginning. Her announcement speech has been that way, a little bit sharper than anyone else. And she had a cohesive speech last year. She has always told the best story. If anyone needs to be concerned right now, right now, i think it is Bernie Sanders in a sense that, you know, is Elizabeth Warren is like sfiping at his heals and getting close. And hes probably going to raise 20 million this quarter, but look out for her. Let me bring in the founder of dailycos. Hes going to probably come on the screen with a huge smile on his face. Hello, marcos. How are you doing . Im good. You have been an advocate i mean, youve been crystal clear. Harris, warren, warren, harris, the order doesnt matter. This was the dream scenario for you in who looks like who had the best nights. Absolutely. The thing that really struck me more than anything else, more than the substance, more than a lot of the details of what was said. So you notice nobody interrupted Elizabeth Warren on day one. She was sort of holding court. Nobody dared step on her. And on day two, every time there was a scrum, Kamala Harris came out on top. That just shows that they have the poise to strike the command from somebody you need for somebody whos going to be running for president. I know you were rushing there for me, and i appreciate that, thats an interesting observation by markos. They were the only two that seemed to constantly command when they needed to. Right. The first nights dine attic was completely different from the second night. Beto orourke became the punching bag. I didnt see that coming. And the truth was that on thursday night, Kamala Harris inserted herself in a variety of moments. She did. And so was consistent throughout the debate. I agree with what doug had to say about Elizabeth Warren. I think that the way she framed her overall rationale, rather than getting into the weeds of all of the policies which she could have gotten into, was an effective way to present herself to the American People. But she did that in the first 40 minutes and then kind of disappeared and didnt feel a need to be a force. Whereas harris, time and again, time and again, took the initiative. But thats harris argument. Her argument is i am the better prosecutor, i am the one. I am not scared and i can very effectively take down joe biden and i can do that to donald trump. More than warren did in the first debate. And it doesnt surprise me that i think the men probably didnt want to interrupt the women, which would i would advise was the right call by all of them. And also, you know, these two women it doesnt surprise me that the women prepared really hard and well to just they were ready. To nail this, and they were ready. How do you think that will change with the interruption of the female candidates in future debates given i think its something the men have to really struggle with. And i dont know now dominating the debates doesnt necessarily translate to winning voters over. As the communication manager of the hillary campaign. You have got this running tracking poll and i know its too early there to do anything publicly. Its raw, but are you seeing anything, and what do you make of the Bernie Sanders observation by Doug Thornell . Has warren basically eclipsed sanders in your world of sort of progressive, fundamental economic change politics . Yeah, absolutely. The problem with Bernie Sanders is that he has the exact same message four years ago. Now sure why hes not trying to calibrate that particularly in his field. And one of the arguments his campaign is making to is that everybody is, quote, stealing his message as though maybe bernie invented liberalism. But point aside, bernie deserves a lot of credit from mainstreaming a lot of those ideas, but he has done nothing to build his own base of support. And why stick with bernie who who as divisive as he is, inclusive candidates and theres a bunch to choose from . You know, doug, who do you feel like is still nominatable . Its clear to me if you were to make me force the top at the tier of three, itd be biden, warren. Who are a little bit above maybe, say, booker and i guess throw . Klobuchar. I think bookers there. I would put booker actually in the top four or five. I am close there too. He had a really good performance. He could have been better. He needed a breakout moment. I thought he got it. He was also good weaving policy message, his own story. He presented a comprehensive method. But, look, i think the three are joe biden and Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Something needs to happen to shake that up. And maybe itll be the next debate. But, you know, look, we talk a lot about this exchange with joe biden. I thought her best moment was her close where she looked right at the camera and she talked to the American People. That was really powerful. And if i was on their team, thats what i would be pushing out there more than anything else. Besides warren and harris, who stood out to you that you were either pleasantly surprised by or you may not be a fan but still surprised by . I actually think that the only person other than harris and warren that really stood out was actually Julian Castro who really is the bottom rung. And i am surprised nobody talked about him because he actually has had a little bit of a mini resurgence. He won his faceoff with beto. And he showed command and poise and really spoke to a community who isnt used to getting spoken to. I am latino so i really appreciate that. If you dont speak fluent spanish, please dont try. Its painful. So painful. But that said, Julian Castro really i thought impressed me. And i dont think hes going to go anywhere. And i actually dont think booker really is able to bust through any of the noise. But he at least made a reason why hes running which a lot of these people did not. Julian castro, is he going to be able to take what he did, get some text to stone from beto, is he going to be able to so that he can get into this top five or six . I think getting the number of donors, they were feeling very good on thursday morning. I saw him do a press avail, and he was confident and he said im the one who can actually win texas. I think he really wanted to prove that he was the dominant texas candidate. He did it. He did it. But now he has to build on that. Its a game of survivor right now. Youre absolutely right. Right now it is. Hey, markos, good to see you. Thanks for rushing in to see me. Dan, jennifer, doug, you guys are all sticking around, and that i appreciate. Coming up the changing Democratic Party. Whether you call it more progressive, does it make it more difficult for democrats to win in november 2020 . Thats ahead. But first last nights candidates and the first issues they plan to tackle in office. 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They want to know how were going to put food on their table. And finally a number that makes all of us 18. 1 million. Thats the number of people who watched last nights debate here on nbc as well as msnbc and telemundo making it the most watched democratic primary debate in history. When we come back, Kamala Harris made a big splash last night. Could it launch her to the front of the pack . When crabe stronger. Strong, with new nicorette coated ice mint. Layered with flavor. Its the first and only coated nicotine lozenge. For an amazing taste. That outlasts your craving. New nicorette ice mint. My gums are irritated. I dont have to worry about that, do i . Actually, you do. Harmful bacteria lurk just below the gum line, and if youre not taking care of your gums, youre not taking care of your mouth. So now i use this. Crest gum detoxify. Crest gum detoxify, voted product of the year. 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And what senator harris has done and will continue to do is travel the country, help people get organized. Shes in the process of unifying the country, building coalitions, and really putting forth her vision and her agenda for the country. And shes listening to people. I have been in South Carolina a couple of times with her, and i want you to know people in rural and urban communities are rallying around her. Theyre getting to know her. Shes mounting a grassroots campaign. Thats whats going to win this election is going to be the power of the people and the mobilization and the organization of the campaign thats going to take her on to victory. So, Vice President biden has complained mildly that he believes senator harris mischaracterized his record. What say you, congresswoman . Well, i tell you one thing. I watched the debate with three of my colleagues, two of whom are from swing states and actually they are undecided, and they decided that after watching senator harris last night they want to meet with her and talk to her further. And i think that what she did was very appropriate. She actually told the truth, and its about time that we confront many of these issues. And when she turned to Vice President biden and she confronted him on working with segregationists on an antibusing agenda, that was the right thing to do because you know what . It wasnt only about her personal experiences, but it was about the experiences of millions and millions of americans. And let me just say, chuck, finally, i listened to what Vice President said today, and no one is denying his record on civil rights. But its about time for him to say, look, i was wrong. You know, this is 2019, and in looking back, that was wrong. And i know it hurt a lot of people. But he hasnt said that yet, and im very disappointed that that has not happened. If he were to call you and hes somebody that might do that, he might hear this right now or hear that youre upset because, you know, hes known you a long time. What would you say to him . I would say, mr. Vice president , its time that you say to the American People and to people who have been in many ways marginalized through government policies, through segregation, racist policies, say that, yes, you know like he said unfortunately worked with segregationists. Which, if you ask me, that was wrong and that he also worked on an antibusing agenda which he thought was right. And then say, look, i recognize that was wrong and that it hurt many people, and i would say, mr. Vice president , please say that, please say you recognize the pain that this brought and the pain that your work really perpetuated. And now in 2019 say i recognize this and, you know, we have to look at new ways to address Racial Justice. But then, you know, thats what i did and that was not the right thing to do. And, yes, i did this and lets move on. But he hasnt said that, and he should say that. Okay. Let me ask a little bit more about senator Harris Campaign platform and one of her promises as she said, and its been basically among her first signature plans. This middle class tax cut. Tell me a little bit more about it. Sure. And, you know, these huge tax cuts by the Trump Administration really has hurt working men and women and the middle class. And she said last night that her first action of course is going to give low and middleincome working families a tax break but also shes going to repeal the trump tax cuts. That is extremely important. Also when you look at her agenda she talks about working men and women, families who wake up in the middle of the night worrying about what theyre going to do tomorrow to pay the bills. First, we talked about, and shes talked about giving teachers up to 13,000 raises. Teachers are securing our future. They deserve a raise. And shes going to do that on day one. Also, she talked about our dreamers and dacas and daca children and Immigration Reform and how shes going to move forward to make sure that everyone has access to affordable, Accessible Health care. Yes, medicare for all. So she has her agenda thats going to affect the lives of every american. And im very proud of her putting it out there because its a bold agenda. But, i tell you, chuck. Yes. Its based on a vision. Okay. Its based on moral clarity of where this nation needs to go on behalf of the people. Very quickly, you are known to a lot as sort of a leading dove, if you will. Youre a big sceptic when it comes to military intervention, and you are very much sometimes on the leading edge of this. Have you had a good conversation with senator harris about your views on this . And how close is she to you when it comes to these issues of military interventions . We havent talked in depth about the issues which i have been working on for many, many years. We have talked in generalities. But i can tell you, im confident that she would support, repeal as we passed in the defense appropriations bill a couple of weeks ago repeal of the 2001 authorization to use force, which, if you remember, chuck, i voted against and i was the only one in 2001 after the horrific attacks. I am convinced and her vote today shows that she supports the administration coming to congress if theyre going to consider any military action toward iran. And i know that she respects the constitution and the three branches of government. 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President trump seeming to brush off russias interference in our elections as a joke and giving a morning o mock warning to putin was a stark reminder to the Democratic Candidates what theyre up against, a president who appears to be telegraphing to russia its okay to interfere in our elections. Lonnie chin at hoever institute. Lonnie, i will ask you about sort of how a republican would view the democratic debate so far. But i got to ask about President Trump. I know this is a broken record. But where is the alarm why arent there alarm bells going off by his just cavalier attitude to the russian interference . Well, i think to a certain degree, chuck, theres almost immunity to it. Weve seen it over and over again. There are some republicans on capitol hill that occasionally will say this is bothersome. What theyre seeing is not normal. We have to keep pressure on russia. Its not going to come from most republicans in congress. So the question is where its going to come from. It is very concerning. This is not something to be brushed off. Its a problem that could affect the next president ial election. It seems like it did there. The next part of our conversation is, how far left is too left in the Democratic Party . I want to put up the question about the idea of undocumented immigrants Getting Health Care coverage. Here was a hand raised question from last night. Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. Okay. You said it would be covered under your plan. Which is different than obamacare. Yes heres the thing. Can you explain the change . Yes, you cannot let as the mayor said, people who are sick no matter where they come from, no matter their status go uncovered. You cant do that. Its going to be taken care of. Its a humane thing to do. Jennifer palmieri, barack obama worried about the politics of that. Yes, but i would say theres probably five people on that stage who could become the next president of the United States holding that position. Right. But having said that, i do think that one concern i had with the debate overall last night was it did often feel like the policy arguments that the candidates were making were designed to show they are willing to fight trump policies as opposed to be the best person to replace him. You know, its like i think that might be a factor of the fact that people have been running pore president for six months and they themselves are so knowledgeable about where each other stands on policies and they wanted to make distinctions. But i think that probably made sense to people on the stage and people on twitter. And i fear that the people who are actually watching at home thought this is very disconnected from my life. And i actually have no idea what these people are talking about. Doug, do you concur . I agree with what jen said. Democrats did not define the president in either night. They didnt define him. They didnt define his position. Do they need to. They do. They need to get out there this person broke many promises that he made on the campaign trail, that he is out for himself. And that hes really in it just for the people hes looking out for arent the middle class. And that just was not consistent enough the two nights. Lonnie, what did you see as a republican . Well, you know, look i think the movement is the left is going to be a challenge in a general election, whether its the issue of undocumented immigrants getting access to free health care, whatever you want to call it, Kamala Harriss vacillations on medicare for all and what it does to the private marketplace is a problem. This is an issue for primaries. For the republicans the chal is immigration. They tend to go too far on immigration. For democrats weve seen this on display with respect to health care and a whole host of other issues including immigration, the question is going to be, is any of this recoverable, can they pivot back in a general election. I think the Trump Campaign is looking at last night and saying this is exciting because people are way too far to the left. Four years ago, Clinton Campaign when donald trump would have good debate nights and the republican keyboards would appear to go off the rails and put the party in all sorts of crazy positions, a lot of democrats, the Trump Campaign and the republicans today sound like the democrats four years ago and guess what, trumps president. Well, but that assumes there is a donald trump in the democratic field who can kind of defy all of the norms and traditions and metrics and the way we consider. Do you think there is a too far to the left . I definitely think theres a risk. Politics today is obviously so polarized. So binary. The view of the world from the republican side is totally different from democrats. Democrats have spent the last six months, these candidates have spent the last six months going from one Constituency Group to another. And the pressure in this environment is to agree 100 or almost 100 with those Constituency Groups. That has not always been the case. There was always in past campaigns, if you were a candidate, you were trying to figure out how you could avoid being called a panderer. And today, we dont think about that. I think that that is i think that whats really happening is there are a large number of candidates who are going for a small number of voters in the democratic field. So i think there already a lot of people who think that if they are the one that is going further left, they will capture the far left of the party or the more progressive wing of the party. And then you have biden, right, who feels that he needs to take some positions that are more progressive than where hes been empty past but generally is being upheld by a large plurality at this point of vote ares who like a moderate. Its just that theres a lot of democrats that are fighting for that progressive slice of the electorate. Runs risk in saying i need to be where a lot of these other people are. Doug, its interesting joe biden needs wing people. I thought hickenlooper would help push theres a moderate wing to the party. They didnt break through because of the kamala biden moment. We were talking about steve bullock. I do think bennet and hickenlooper did go after Bernie Sanders a good bit. You do need more people sort of in the middle to can prosecute a case against bernie and others who have ideas that you know, are perceived as outside the mainstream. Lahne the democrat you saw the last two nights that a republican could support . I would have said joe biden but last night, its hard to see much of anything given where the party is. Lahne chen, former mitt romney policy director, thanks for coming in. Dan, jen, doug, thank you for bailing me out today. Well be back monday. If its sunday its meet the press on your local flbz station. Well look at the fallouts from the debates. Among my guests will be two candidates, cory booker and Julian Castro. The beat with ari melber starts right now. Welcome back after your busy week into glad to see you back in your set, as well. Everybody was flying today. Congratulations on all the hard work. Well be watching this sunday. Thank you, brother. A very special friday show planned for you. The fallout from last nights debate and wait till you hear how Many Americans actually watched. What does mean when all ten democrats endorse health care for undocumented immigrants . As the Supreme Court makes news today take a new case on dreamers. 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