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Going to give you my love. Hell know why i have nightmares about si. Thank you, nicolle. If its tuesday, its not normal. Good evening. Im chuck todd here in washington. Welcome to meet the press daily. We bebegin with a steady stream of threats and sales pitches from the oval office in a president ial scene that has become all too typical, that is anything but the normal way to do business. The president spoke to reporters after meeting with natos secretarygeneral, and where should we begin . He lashed out at democratic efforts oo subpoena the Mueller Report. He didnt mention russias attacks on the democracy, but he painted the investigation into russias attacks on ordemocracy as treasonous. You should look at the beginnings and where it started. The whole situation. Because this has been a very, very bad thing for our country. Some very bad people started something that should have never been started. And i hope thats going to continue forward. Because people did things that were very, very bad for our country and very, very illegal. And you could even say treasonous. So hes not lecturing the russians there. I dont think. The president doubled down on his threat to close the u. S. mexico border despite being asked about the Economic Cost that such a drastic move would have. Sure, its going to have a negative impact on the economy. Its one of the biggest trade deals in the world that we have just done with the usmca. Its a very big trading partner. But to me, trading is very important. The borders are very important. But security is what is most important. I have to have security. And following his administrations move to have the courts invalidate the Current Health care law, mr. Trump promised a much better plan, but apparently, you have to reelect him in a wave election if you want to see the plan. When the plan comes out, which well be showing you at the appropriate time, its much better than obamacare, so when the plan comes out, youll see it. Well go through the election. We have a very good chance at retaking the house, and we have a very good chance of keeping the senate, and i think we will keep the senate. And i think were going to keep the presidency, and well vote in the best Health Care Package we have ever had. For what its worth, its april of 19, even our friends at the cook report arent fully handicapping the senate. Everything we saw this afternoon, the threats on immigration, the grievances with the Mueller Report, even the 2020 marketing pitch on the best Health Care Plan arent what you expect from a president who believes hes totally exonerated. Why is he acting like someone, for lack of a wbetter word, someone who is losing. Joining me chief correspondent for the times, peter baker, ann guerin, matthew cont annetty, and Daniella Gibbs lugier. The scene is not new. The grieve jss are not new, but it is surprising, and i know he only really has one tool in the tool box that he uses, that he had such an opportunity a week ago, and it does feel as if hes just as angry as ever. As if the Mueller Report didnt exonerate him. Well, i think thats right. You do see a little anger there. Not a little, a lot. I think its partly exacerbated by the continuing debate by the democrats in the house who want to see the Mueller Report. Remember, we have not actually seen anything of the Mueller Report. We have seen two sentence fragments quoting the report in bill barrs summation or letter to Congress Last week. And so this debate thats now, you know, raging on the hill about when or where or how much of the report are they going to see, clearly is under the president s skin. A week ago or so he basically said he had no problem with releasing the whole thing, now the tweets hes putting out the last few days, the comments he makes in the white house, all indicate hes exacerbated by the effort to learn more about what mueller actually found. Matthew, we said this before, but he seems to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory sometimes. He had a moment last week where he could have put democrats more in a corner, particularly on capitol hill, whether it was on infrastructure. He has chosen not to do that. Hes doing these extreme measures that are rhetorically make him feel good, but actually make it much harder to get things done. Its trumps way to do about six things at once, and always do them at the most maximum level. So its not just call on congress to change the asylum laws to address the crisis on the border. Its were going to shut the border down. Its not just defending the Administration Decision to back the position of the states attorney general. Were going to come up with something new, but youre going to have to reelect me to find out the secret plan to end health care. I find this to be typical trump. I think no matter what is happening in washington today, over the democrats pursuit of the Mueller Report, which will come out eventually. Barr said it will. I think trump turned a corner with the statements from barr that came out the day that the report was released. I agree that i feel like he turned a corner, but hes not acted like hes turned a corner. Thats the part of this i think politically with a lot of the public, theyre ready to turn a corner, believe it or not . Are they though . I dont know. I think were about to find out, bethut president doesnt. Thats whats amazing. It really is. Like you said, trump never ceases to amaze me, to take something that is seemingly positive for him and then, i dont know if he gets wrapped up in his mind or who told him what on fox news that made him come and think that saying these things today would be beneficial somehow. Look, hes acting like a man who isnt exonerated because he wasnt. Like the Mueller Report did not exonerate him of that charge. Now, bill barr and rosenstein did, but the Mueller Report didnt. We dont know whats in the report, and yes, it will come out at some point, but i think it would if i was the president , i would want the full report to come out so i could say hey, look through it. Theres nothing in here. You guys are barking up the wrong tree. I think hes scared that there actually is bad stuff in there. There was a point a couple weeks ago where he appeared to be calling for the full release of the report, as it was clear that bob mueller was winding down but hadnt actually finished his work yet. But to your point, chuck, theres a way in which he could be putting democrats on their heels, because theres genuine division i wouldnt know about division discomfort. Tension between do we go all in, do we just keep banging on this every single day, and hey wait, we have to make a case for 2020 on something that is not bob mueller. Were seeing that tension play out on the trail right now. And hes not exploiting it. Peter, i want to go to the border issue a minute. Its my understanding that i think it was your paper that reported this, thought Kevin Hassett, basically, the chief economist for the president inside the white house, gave a presentation of how disastrous shutting down the border would be for the economy, even a shortterm hit. What is the president thinking hes going to gain out of this . Thats a great question. Why hes now suddenly returned to immigration as the confrontational issue that hes made it in the past. Look, the apprehensions at the border are back up again, and hes therefore trying to point to those developments on the border and say you guys said there was no crisis but there is one so im going to have to do something drastic to get everybodys attention. Im going to have to do something drastic to get mexicos attention, the attention of the people in central america, and washingtons attention. Whether he plans to follow through, i dont know. Its a pretty big thing to say youre going to shut that border down. Its not just keeping out illegal immigrants. Its keeping out very legal trade. Its keeping out billions of dollars worth of goods and products that move across the border boeth directions and woud be a big hit on a lot of american businesses as well as mexican and others. I think that, you know, whether hes thought through all of that or plans to do it or is trying to bluff is really unclear. Matthew, this feels like one of those dont take him seriously, yet we have been burned by that before with him. You dont know when he means it or doesnt. His own staff doesnt know. Which is why i think Kevin Hassett put together that powerpoint for him. This is what happens. And its yet he still wants to go down this road. I think thats his problem, is that democrats dont know when to take him seriously. He said during today in the oval office that for him immigration is a security issue. I think thats been the case since his primary run in 2015. And i think he very effectively linked the two. And i think he understands that hes going to win or lose in 2020 on the basis of immigration. And furthermore, i think when the politics are right, the immigration issue helps him and hurts the democrats. I think he does believe that. I think he believes ultimately immigration is better for him. Beto orourkes quote that he wants to take down the wall in el paso is going to haunt him if hes the democratic nominee in 2020. Will he . Its possible. Nixon and reagan both did it, different time. A lot more cross border traffic today. How long will it last . We shaw with the shutdown that trump is willing to do these perhaps shortterm harmful things in order to make a much broader point. Heres the thing. Its amazing to me that he doesnt know how to use more of the white house toolbox. Take the decision to yank the money from the Central American countries. He first could have done a summit. Forced all of us to cover it, like a summit. Forced us all to take it. The lack of imagination, if they really do care about this as a security issue, that this white house has, that he has on this stuff, is amazing how they dont offer up a serious way for people to cover the story if they take it as seriously as they say. It goes to the caliber of people not casting aspersions on everyone who works for this administration, but it seems i wouldnt blame i think some of these people have the ideas. Theyre not capable of convincing the president these are things normal president s would actually do. For someone who used to work in a white house, its frustrating. Yes, i dont agree with his policies, but on just a tactical level, to see the missed opportunities. Dent you know how to bunt and advance a guy to third base. Sorry. Baseball. What is he doing . And to your point, i agree that he thinks immigration is a very salient point for him and well see how that plays out, but going down this path is not going to help him. What about the Health Care Decision . Does he make republicans happy that hes at least finally saying okay, i wont make you talk about it now . According to Mitch Mcconnell, yeah. Mcconnell took credit for it this afternoon. I talked to the president on monday afternoon. On monday night, he tweeted hes done with health care. Hes not bunting. Hes punting. Mcconnell told him we are not going to do that. And we dont have a plan. We dont have we dont have the votes for it. Were not going to do that in the senate. So i dont know. Maybe trump has a secret plan locked in Mick Mulvaneys safe and hes going to unlock it on whatever, november whatever 2024, but its a little hard to imagine that thats the case. Peter, its nigh understanding the president , its him alone whawants to do health care. No one else around him does. I think thats right. I think a lot of people around him are confounded by this, including his own advisers. Some of them have talked to him and said why are you doing this now . His view is look, did democrats own the Health Care Issue last fall during the midterm elections . Maybe they did and therefore doing nothing is also harmful. Maybe we need to try to find a way to take it back from him. Thats why you hear them saying the words the Republican Party is going to be the party of health care. What we have seen in the past is, you know, the way hes tried to own that issue hasnt worked for him. The question is, you have to say, as you say, more Creative Ideas on how to change the image of the Republican Party if youre going to try to be the party of health care. One way is to have a plan that you can sell to people and say see, this would be better than obamacare. He doesnt have a plan like that, and now were not going to see one for 19 months. Matthew, politically, its bad to have a plan, as you find out. Thats what mcconnell basically told him. Hey, dont put out a plan. Theyll punch holes through it. On health care, politically, it would be against. Better to be against obamacare in 2010. Better to be against the changes to preexisting conditions in 2018, and its better to be against medicare for all in 2020. I think thats what President Trumps move was meant to address. He had opened it up, the lets change obamacare issue, when in fact what he wants to do is attack medicare for all. The problem is now that hes president , he owns the Health Care System whether he likes it or not. Im going to pause it here. Peter baker, thank you, sir. Matt and daniella will stick around. We have more on the Republicans Health care dilemma. But coming up, joe bidens touchiness, and its a reminder that he may be out of touch. Can the former Vice President win in todays Democratic Party . . Humira patients, you inspire us. The way you triumph over adversity. And live your lives. Thats why we redesigned humira. We wanted to make the experience better for you. Now theres less pain immediately following injection. Weve reduced the size of the needle and removed the citrate buffers. And it has the same effectiveness you know and trust. Humira citratefree is here. A little change can make a big difference. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections. 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Joe biden seems to be on the verge of announcing his candidacy for president , and hes leading virtually every poll of the democratic field, but there are red flags for his kanlddouse. Two women have accused biden of making them feel uncomfortable with the physical conduct that he had around them, which biden says was never his intention. Democrats both in and out of the president ial race seem to agree that bidens behavior is not disqualifying, but it is a reminder of bidens vulnerabilities as a candidate. A 76yearold white male facing scrutiny over inappropriate behavior with women isnt what you would expect with a frontrunner in this Democratic Party inlts this 21st century. Which raises a major question for biden. Can he win . Is he 21st century enough for todays Democratic Party. Joining me, two editorial writers with two different takes on biden and his appropriateness over the years. We thought lets make them debate it in public. Ruth marcus, also an msnbc contributor, and molly roberts, an editorial writer at the washington post. Her most recent is, it doesnt matter what joe biden meant to do. Ruth and molly, i am here to truly moderate. I want to moderate it. In this respect. Ruth, you are of a more forgiving nature of bidens conduct. Thats me. Make your case. Look, i am forgiving in the sense that i think everyone, many people who have looked at this situation with Vice President biden have been forgiving, which is he is of a different generation, and mollys headline not withstanding, it actually does matter what your intention is. One of my favorite quotes is from justice holmes, im going to show off a little bit. He said even a dog knows the difference between being tripped over and being kicked. And so when somebody sexually harasses someone in a way that intends to demean them and has a bad or intends to use their power over them, that is different than joe biden behaving in a way that he should not behave and that makes people feel uncomfortable. He shouldnt do that. Times have changed. But i think where you started is where i come out. This is not fatal for Vice President biden, but it is symptomatic of a challenge hes going to have as he enters this race. Molly talk about the specific. Why should it matter . So, i dont have any holmes quotes, unfortunately. Got you there. I think it does matter somewhat what joe biden meant to do. Certainly, if joe biden had been trying to display his power over these women, if this had been sexual, and even the most recent accuser says that at least from her point of view, him rubbing noses with her thats a little weird, granted. Was not sexual. I think that makes a difference, but i think that focusing on intention, which is what biden did in his apology, is part of the problem here. Because it is once again putting the man and what the man feels and what the man believes at the center of the conversation rather than saying, hey, how did this make women feel . Evidently, it didnt make Stephanie Carter feel so bad, but it did make lucy flores feel bad. You hear this argument that its generational. When you hear generational, what do you hear when you hear that . I hear that my mom and i would probably disagree on it. But i think its interesting. I think that the generational divide is kind of what ruth is speaking to with the challenge that biden faces. Because right now, when we talk about joe biden, were not just talking about his different attitude on this issue. Were talking about his different attitude on many issues. He has baggage from the past, so whether it is sexual harassment, where his attitude has evolved or at least we see him acting far more progressive now than he did when he was chairing the anita hill hearings. You also have, say, the busing issue. Generally theres a feeling of heres this 76yearold man, and is that what we want for our country moving forward . I think thats what this is really about. This isnt about is he too touchy . This is about is he the man for the moment. The man for the moment. Were just, this is the debate that makes it, that is just emblematic of the larger conversation. This is a particularly unforgiving moment. It is. And i think we are watching once again, i sat there at the anita hill hearings and i watched the public mood shift about what was acceptable and what our understanding was of sexual harassment. And Vice President biden and the rest of us are sitting here right now and watching the public mood shift about what is acceptable and not acceptable for men to do as they deal with women and as they are talking to and touching women, which you know what . They shouldnt do. People shouldnt touch people in professional settings. You would think i know, thats sort of a joke. The rules arent hard. You know, ask before you touch. Its the same rule that we gave our preschool kids. Let me play nancy pelosi today. She had interesting advice on this. Im a member of the Straight Arm Club. Im a straight arm er. Pretend you have a cold and i have a cold. But i think that its important for the Vice President and others to understand is it isnt what you intended. Its how it was received. Hes an affectiont person, to children, to senior citizens, to everyone, thats just the way he is, buthats just not the way join the Straight Arm Club with me, if you will. Molly, do you worry, would bidens nomination, does it make what trump says he does in the access hollywood tape, does it almost trivialize it more or does it not . I think this is the struggle some democrats are saying. Youre giving joe biden a hard time. He didnt do what trump says he does. Absolutely. I dont think that most of bidens critics are trying to establish an equivalency here. Im certainly not. I think as long as everybody is very clear that this is not what donald trump did, this is not what Harvey Weinstein did, this is not even what al franken is accused of having done. I think as long as people are clear about that and dont say this is the same thing, its still useful to discuss how its important how a woman feels, even when the man had those better intentions. You know, theres an interesting stat about joe biden, ruth. The last four president s were all born after joe biden. The last four president s, clinton, bush, obama, and trump, all born after 1945. He was 1941. I feel like were just thats what this ends up taking us back to. So what how does he fix this . How does he become the man of the moment, or is this something he may not have control over . I have been looking for a way to have control over age and i havent discovered it yet. Hes a young 76. He is. I give him that. He has changed. He has learned. But hes still struggling, i think molly used the word baggage. Thats completely true. Theres baggage on criminal justice issues. And its a different time. He dragged president obama to samesex marriage. It was joe biden that dragged and frankly, you know, we all did the back story on this. The president was not ready. The president was not ready to do this yet. It was joe biden that dragged him there. Does that at all outweigh the other stuff . In some form . I dont know. Does that matter, the fact that he shows evolution . Right, and maybe that answers your question, how can he be the man of the moment . If he were pushing policies that were more progressive than where the Democratic Party is or on the more progressive end of the Democratic Party, that would be one thing. Thats not so far what i think hes doing. This leads to the other issue, which is some think actually what makes biden most electable about trump is he has these quirks. He has quirks. Hes human. But also the flipside of baggage is experience. Okay. He comes to the table with experience in foreign policy, with experience in domestic policy, with an understanding of how a white house works. That is different than any of the other Democratic Candidates in the field. So its a balance there. It may not be the balance that the Democratic Party is looking for right now. They want new and shiny. The biggest problem is their nbcnews. Com firstread and do it the Old Fashioned way. And the political unit is relaunching our meet the press blog. Its the all day home. 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I want to put it after the elocation because we dont have the house, so even though the health care is good, really good, its much better than when the plan comes out, which well be showing you at the appropriate time, its much better than obamacare, so when the plan comes out, youll see it. Welcome back. President trump may have delivered some good news and some bad news to his fellow republicans this morning. The good news, they wont have to talk about repealing or replacing obamacare this calendar year because as you just heard, President Trump says you wont see the republican plan until after the 2020 election. The bad news, theyll probably have to answer a lot of questions about it next year. This comes a week after the Trump Administration announced it would support a federal court ruling, lawsuit that would attempt the strike down or at least the Affordable Care act completely due to the decision to zero out the tax. Remember, republicans could not pass a Health Care Bill when they controlled both chambers of congress, and health care is the issue largely credited with costed them control of the house last year. With me now is michael roberts, pollster and partner with Public Opinion strategies, the republican half of our nbc news wall street journal team. Anne gearan, matthew contcontin, Daniella Gibbs leger. Lets start with your firms history with health care, which is is it better to be the one touting the plan or better to be the one defending the plan . Whatever the plan is. Well, its usually better to be the one thats against the unpopular plan. And thats whatever that is. Whatever that is, and usually its the one thats going too far. So you know, thats where we were in 2010. Thats where we were in 2014, and it worked out pretty well for our party. Michael, would you say 2018 was a Health Care Election or not . How important was health care . Certainly a major part of that election. And it was a major part of the messaging, and it was a major part of what carried a lot of democrats into office. Whats happened since then is pretty much crickets on the health care front, though. Anne gearan, you were talking earlier that this is clearly a Mitch Mcconnell decision even though the president said no. Heres Mitch Mcconnell today on this topic. Take a listen. We had a good conversation yesterday afternoon. And i pointed out to him the Senate Republicans view on dealing with comprehensive Health Care Reform with a Democratic House of representatives. So i made it clear to him we were not going to be doing that in the senate. He did say, as he later tweeted, he accepted that. And that he would be developing a plan that he would take to the American People during the 2020 campaign and suggest that that would be what he would be advocating in a second term if there were a republican congress. Wow. Did Mitch Mcconnell seem thrilled with the idea that Donald Trumps going to be campaigning on health care. Oh, my god. I mean, mcconnells not normally the most loquacious guy. But that was extra mcconnelly. Yeah. Even for him. My favorite part, i pointed out to him. Like right . How a bill becomes a law. I know. It was awesome. Like its Mitch Mcconnell saying, um, like if Mitch Mcconnell would ever say this, like dude, this is not happening. Right . In Mitch Mcconnellese, but he also didnt say one thing about what that eventual plan might be, which i think is also mcconnell esque. Your party is going to defend what obama did, this is not an easy, you know, where should democrats be . Defending obamacare, advocating something new, or going after the president on health care . Democrats are going to have to do all three things. We are. Youre going to have to democrats are going to have to make sure that the American People understand what this all means. It means republicans, the only plan they have is taking away your health care. Thats whats happening in the courts right now. They have not put forward anything except we want to end obamacare and we have nothing to come behind it, but it doesnt stop democrats from having, i think michael said it there, crickets happening. Theres a robust conversation happening on the democratic side about the next steps. Metd care for america, medicare for all. Mcconnell calls it medicare for none. Thats just wrong. Okay. Yeah. But thats what he wants. He wants all of the democratic plans because he wants to run against those. He doesnt want to talk about obamacare. I think thats just not going to be the case, and democrats, like i said, have to do all of these things at the same time. Matthew, i want to put up a poll in march, obamacare favorable rating, 50 . Unfavorable, 39 . It goes to the theory earlier which is the new thing is always whats unpopular. The old thing, oh, im okay with it now. You know. Obamacare has been helped for two reasons. One is when trump was elected, democrats started rallying around obamacare. A lot of the obamacare unpopularity had come from democrats who felt they needed more. The second thing thats helped obamacare in the polls is that its most unpopular provision was the mandate, and the mandate no longer exists. Ironically, its because it no longer exists that its led to this Court Challenge that is now put the republicans on the defensive. But i think Mitch Mcconnell is always very tactically stavy, but i worry hes strategically missing the point. Its not up to donald trump whether this is a Health Care Election or not. The democrats have a vote, too, and theyre going to run the same campaign they ran in 2018, which is the republicans are going to take away a popular entitlement, which is preexisting conditions. Trump does need a way to address that. I was just going to say, as a republican pollster, put your republican hat on, and not just the pollster hat. Do you need the president out there advocating the alternative or is just running against medicare for something type of thing, whatever campaign that i know Mitch Mcconnell would prefer to do, how dangerous is it for republicans to go out there without a replacement plan if theyre going to rail against obamacare . They have to be prepared. They also have to be in a position where they know the numbers. And the numbers are when you start to talk against medicare for all, and you talk about the real implications of that, meaning people lose potentially their Employer Provided Health care, and it goes into one system, and its funded by a large increase in taxes. I mean, all of those things start to collapse the support you find in the polls, which is pretty surprisingly high. Its in the upper 50 register right there. You know, in terms of support right now. But it doesnt take into account all the tradeoffs that i think republicans need to be very prepared to talk about, as well as what comes next and what the plan is for something better. All right. Michael roberts, im going to leave it there. Every time we think were going to have the next election wont be about health care, some politician says oh, yeah, hold my beer. Anyway, thank you. Panel, stick around. Up ahead, im obsessed with a true crisis america, but maybe not the america youre thinking about. Out. Aking it easy to get your windshield fixed. With safelite, you can see exactly when well be there. Saving you time for what you love most. Kids whoa kids vo safelite repair, safelite replace youre having one more bite no one more bite kraft. For the win win. Welcome back. Tonight, im obsessed with some forgotten americans. Americans who have been disenfranchised by the system, all but ignored by the government. Im speaking of course of the people of puerto rico. 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They have been raised by serious individuals, and they deserve a serious evaluation as to how joe biden should proceed, but thats a decision that he needs to make on his own. That was congressman Hakeem Jeffries who chairs the democratic caucus, weighing in on the allegations surrounding joe biden. Time for the lid. Anne, matthew, and daniella are back. You havent had your shot at the biden story. Daniella, im going to start with you. You heard this debate. Its obviously creating, i would say, midlevel angst inside the Democratic Party, how to deal with this biden allegation. People uncomfortable on both sides of this issue. How does he get through this . I thought molly had some really good points about centering this conversation not so much about what his intentions are but around how it makes people feel. And you know, you have to take the totality of joe biden, right, when you have those conversations. You do with everybody. You look at his history and all the good things hes done. At the end of the day, you had people who felt uncomfortable by his actions. I think its incumbent upon him to sit with that and internalize that. I thought his i think its incumbent on him to sit with that, internalize that, i think his statements are more, there needs to be an audienceing, a rec coning you his seeming behavior is. We are in a different era now. There is already an attack, one trump super pac put together a bit of an attack ad playing off of a Hillary Clinton attack on trump in 16, heres a quick look at it. I feel joe biden put his hands on my shoulders, get up closest to me from behind, lean in, smell my hair and then plant a slow kiss on the top of my head. Matthew, can the Trump Campaign be effective attacking biden this way or do you think theyre trying to troll him . I dont think its about the Trump Campaign. I think its about the democratic mile i primary, he has to face this before trump has the opportunity to go headtohead on these sorts of issues. Bidens become a punching bag for the last two weeks. The the story he might not be able to raise enough money. There is a story about the tracy abrams style balloon. He is not even in the race. I have yet to hear from joe biden why he wants to be the Vice President. Its like a episode of veep. He needs to get on offense. I talked to one democratic strategist that said, get in already. At least if he were in, he could start, he hasnt given an interview. It is leading it up to other people to defend him. We dont hear from him. Including his camp, what we presume to be his campaign. Team. Campaign team, spokesperson. You know, airing Something Like a Conspiracy Theory here. That this is a all kind of people are shooting at joe biden and it was unfair. Joe biden can make that case for himself. And would probably do a better job getting out there, describing the ways in which he as a very empathetic person who, by the way, is an equal opportunity toucher men and women. Hes a touchy feely guy. The way that that has evolved over his career and he would choose to do it now. Danielle, i get the sense that some of these democrats look at this and say if he were the only choice, wed accept it. But theres all these other great candidates, na the base seems to be trying out, so why settle for somebody that make people feel uncomfortable . I dont know that those conversations are actually happening right now. Again its so early. Its getting late early, though. I know. Its still i think really early and these conversations are going to happen over the next couple of months. People will make their decision of which of the 7800 democrats running are the ones they want to see go up against President Trump. I this i to my earlier point, there needs to be more of a conversation had around this, but what i have been sort of ranting about if my head over the past couple of days are kellyanne conway, the trump apologyists junk on this, i dont want to hear a thing about them on this, not a word. I did bring up another candidate who said to me, the one thing that concerns them about biden actually is that the large debate that the party is having means the entire conversation is about joe biden. He said, that happened four years ago with trump. You so suck up the oxygen that actually he ends up not deflating because everything is a debate about biden, just like everything became a debate about trump. I disagree with that democrat unsurprisingly. I think the trump analog in this race is sanders, who by the way is raising the most money. Hes neck and neck in all the polls. No ones touched him. He has all the Ecological Energy and he will split the party like trump split the Republican Party. With biden, its not the issue of where is bidens constituency, which may be polls. It may be good feels for the barack obama constituency. Thats a good constituency, though. They follow quickly. It is already going. It is interesting you bring that up. It feels like a Kamela Harris or beto has a deeper constituency because theyve won recent state races. Yeah, at this point. Almost won. Biden will be making the argument that it was extremely unfor ther comfortable for Hillary Clinton to make in 2016 that not really running for a third obama term you, but i am kinda, yeah. Well see if obama, team obama will let joe biden run on the obama third term. Thats another debate for another time. Thank you very much. Up next, a major first for the second city. Ajor first for the second city. Tremfya® can help adults with moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis get clearer. And stay clearer. Most patients who saw 90 clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. 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