Federal prosecutors disclosed that the president directed a pair of campaign felonies that basically defrauded voters. Thats one. Two, his personal lawyer and fixer was talking about a deal with the russian government that included political synergy, a deal which he lied about to congressional investigators and he said he lied for the president. And three, his campaign chief lied about among other things his contact with someone tied to russian intelligence. Theres also now an enormous body of public evidence demonstrating the trump orbits eagerness to team up with russia earlier in the campaign. Not to mention the pervasive culture of lying and corruption that has been uncovered by prosecutors more generally. As the Washington Post notes, we now know that russians interacted with at least 14 that numbers at 14 now Trump Associates during the campaign and the transition. That includes some family members. The president s lawyer lied to investigators about his interactions. His National Security advisor lied to investigators about his interactions. And one of his Campaign Advisers lied to investigators about his interactions. It is a strange and perhaps eerie thing when federal prosecutors are building a meticulous case of criminal activity around the president and the president s denialing cant be bothered with a simple spell check. Guys, with repeat developments there are so many questions about where this investigation is headed, what kind of case or cases could implicate the president and how the president is going to respond to it all. To help us unpack everything im joined by the Washington Post intelligence and National Security reporter shane harris, the pentagons former top russia expert and msnbc National Security analyst, evelyn farkas, and a former federal prosecutor whos worked under bob mueller, glen kershner, you have the filings from last friday, the president s denials. Where do you think it goes from here, glen . I actually watched Nicole Wallace interview of comey last night certainly through a different lens. Ive read jim comeys book. Weve all heard him testify previously. When he started talking about that first briefing with president elect trump at trump tower where he and other members of our intelligence communities laid out for the president that russia had interfered in our elections and they were probably going to do it again i think any president learning or any president elect learning that information should immediately have said, oh, my goodness, how did this happen . We must investigate. We must prevent it from happening again. Now, according to former director comey donald trump had none of those reactions. Instead he said how can we spin this for our own pr purposes so we are not damaged. Thats a sign that from day one he was compromised, and i think that is quite troubling. What do you think of the denials, evelyn . The president today with his multiple tweets talking about a smocking gun when he really means a smoking gun. Hes getting more belligerent when it comes to his denials. Hes been denying collusion all along, but it seems like hes taking the facts presented to him by prosecutors and completely ignoring them in order to serve his own purposes. Does he believe that people dont know up from down . Maybe. I think i would align myself here with glenn. Hes not behaved from day one as if hes innocent and none of the people around him have behaved that way either. And, you know, knowing russia the way i know urussia, when ths story first started to come out i thought clearly the russians are trying to weaken our democracy and influence our elections. That was not a question. And i thought, well, its possible that the trump people around President Trump and maybe even the president himself would have taken the assistance. Now, whether they would have taken it wittingly knowing that it was illegal or not was an open question in my mind. But the more they stall, the more they coverup, the more i think that actually they were involved knowingly and that thats why theyre working so hard to cover it up. Because if it was an accident, if it was a misunderstanding, by now, you know, at least some of them would have come clean. Lets get into that a little bit more for a moment, evelyn. In the comey filing in the muellercohen filing from friday, they say in and around 2015 cohen spoke to a Russian National who claimed to be a trusted person in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign, quote, political synergy and synergy on a government level. Is that how Vladimir Putins government would first try to broach the topic of colluding . Would they dangle it in that way . Sure, and they were doing it with multiple other trump people. They were not targeting just one person, i think to make sure that they were effective they tried multiple people. The other thing to know about the russian government, you know, they have multiple security agencies working their targets. So the u. S. Targets are being targeted by different security agencies and we know from the dnc hack for example that both the military Intelligence Unit and the foreign Intelligence Unit were targeting us. They were kind of competing. So certainly they would do that, and they would hope that somebody would bite. It looks like multiple people bit. What would political synergy be, shane . Well, its interesting. The political synergy could be in the most extreme instance i suppose would be at whats at the heart of this investigation, which would be collusion. Was there some effort that the russian government was making to disrupt our elections and they made the Trump Campaign privy to it . We dont have any proof of that. Thats obviously been a big question. When i hear synergy i think of that period during the transition when Michael Flynn was on the phone with the Russian Ambassador and trying to align the expectations that they had how russia would respond to sanctions we had just put on them with the Incoming Trump administration. Theres still a lot around that conversation. I presume Michael Flynn shared one of his 19 interview sessions with the special counsel. If you add up all these interactions and the reporting thats been going on for two years before this, what we see are theres multiple efforts by the russian government to penetrate the Trump Campaign. What that ultimately ended up and whether there was this collusion or synergy we dont know, but in any other campaign you could imagine if people saw this kind of connection they would have called the fbi or tried to put a stop to it. And theres no evidence that in any of these interactions that were going on for much longer than we understood before, that the trump camp pain ever said no or tried to turn these people away. And reporters are trying to find out who exactly spoke to russians or had interactions during the Trump Campaign. Weve been getting more information about that as time has gone on. First it was just about sessions and flynn and some people involved in the transition. Its broadened out. Last year it was nine people. Today according to the Washington Post latest reporting its 14 different people. And this doesnt just include flynn and sessions who we already knew about but seder, papadopoulos, manafort, page, gordon, roger stone, michael kaputo, rick gates but also a new name weve heard and thats ivanka trump, shane. And weve seen that materializing as well. It sounds like homicide a scatter shot kind of approach when you lay out these 14 people going on on here. But it matches up with what the Intelligence Community understands about aspects of the russian interference campaign which was there was a Central Mission which gets handed out by putin and various arms of the Security Apparatus start carrying that out. Its one of the reasons the intelligence officials ive talked to think there were two separate hackers inside the dnc network. One looking for information for espionage purposes. What looks like a scatter shot kind of approach its actually not coordinated but does reflect this idea theres multiple lines trying to make inroads, and theyve clearly touched on a lot of people. Glen, it seems clear to me muellers investigation is very much about the question of collusion, not just about obstruction. Yeah, it is. And i think the word synergy is going to become important, katie, but in a whole different way because theres so much synergy developing sort of between and among the many misdeeds of trump and his closest associates and family members. Whether its now his apparent involvement in Campaign Finance violations together with Michael Cohen to help give him an unfair advantage in the election. Whether it is the ongoing relationship, business relationship that we now learned about through Michael Cohens guilty plea where he was continuing to try to work with the russians to build trump tower in moskow, whether its the coverup of the president asking comey to layoff flynn, then firing comey over the russia thing, there is synergy among all of these things that i think becomes more and more ominous by the day for the president and his family members and close associates. Theres synergy among the russia investigation. Certainly whether theres collusion and obstruction or one or the other. But theres also another threat here that has nothing to do with either one, and that hais potentially nothing to do with either one, and that is some overlap involved. Michael cohen and what he was trying to do just cam pape finance and trying to hush Stormy Daniels and kaeren mcdougal with those hush money payments. Sdny is making it clear they believe that is Campaign Finance violation and Michael Cohens effort to defraud the voters. But they also make a point of saying he was directed to do so and they take this as fact, directed to do so by individual one. That is the president. Why not just specifically go in and say the president has defrauded the American Public . Why not be more blatant . Well, they actually did say that. And they really stake their reputation on it by putting it in that publicly filed sentencing memo. Ive done hundreds of those memos in my 30 years as a prosecutor, and you want to make sure that you can back up an assertion like that that you make in paperwork, you file with the court. Beyond just the word of one witness, particularly a witness like Michael Cohen. So, you know, and i dont think the president can be heard to say that the Southern District of new york consists of 200 angry democrat prosecutors the way he always levels attacks against the mueller team. This is separate office that has now concluded and announced that the president colluded with Michael Cohen to gain unfair advantage in the election. So does that mean theyre saying that donald trump committed a crime, explicitly . And if they are saying that is adam schiff right to say that donald trump could be facing jail time . They are saying that, and i think adam schiff is right. I mean, if a candidate engages in illegal conduct to steal an election whether by Campaign Finance violations or colluding with Foreign Countries to undermine our free and fair elections, i dont think the president can then hold up as a shield the very position that he stole and say you cant prosecute me for it. That seems to be an incongruity that the American Public shouldnt have to live with. Shane, evelyn, and glenn, everyone thank you very much. And one last thing we should note when it comes to russia infiltration of american politics, maria butina, which now expected to plead guilty in federal court as early as tomorrow. It is unclear, however, if shes cooperating with investigators. Well be right back. Our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition. For strength and energy whoohoo greattasting ensure. With nine grams of protein and twentysix vitamins and minerals. Ensure. 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I think we have to wait until we get the Mueller Report to provide some guidance. So you think you need to wait for more evidence until you say this meet the standard of an Impeachable Offense. Your colleague has said in his new book this meet the standard. I think we need to wait. I havent heard that the first item is the first item is actually going to be about cleaning up congress and passing reforms to Campaign Finance to restore the American Peoples faith in this institution. Lets bring in tonights panel. Gabe, National Correspondent for the new york magazine. Susan, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. Currently the director of progressive programming for sirius xm. Theres a legal threat we just talked about and also the political threat. The president seem tuesds to be shrugging this off. Much as he did during the campaign when he was trying to shrug off controversy. Is it going to work this time . No, it wont work. When he says no collusion or nothings there, mueller has not presented his case. We have other court filings, other things have been referred to the Southern District, et cetera, but we have not heard muellers case. And thats where the rubber hits the road, if you will. Until then we can talk about what mueller is doing based on the bread crumb, but we have no idea. Whats interesting about the impeachment is do they go by on the new york Southern District court on the election charge, which is felony charge . If they wanted to go after that via impeachment, they should probably wait until its all done so they have the case its all laid out for them that way, and then move forward or wait for even mueller because they may have something even more substantial to go after. Listen, the democratic leadership, and particularly the folks taking over these investigatory committees have been very clear about the fact they have no intention of impeaching anytime soon because what they want to do is build a case. Theyve said this on the record repeatedly is we dont want to tear the country apart, and theyre pretty confident even if they succeed in getting an Impeachment Vote in the house its going to fail in the senate. What kind of case can they build thats going to convince Republican Voters that its not as the president calls it a witch hunt . When we talk about impeachment we talk about investigate. We have to investigatecru in the administration, some of Donald Trumps behavior that may arise, but i think its too soon to say we need to impeach the president. And the second step, you need 67 votes. So trying to get to 67 but i think that in terms of this conversation what we really need to do is hold folks accountable in this administration. They havent been held accountable at all. Theyve basically been just having a freeforall for the last two years and now we have a check on them. What are the political perils, though, of holding them accountable . And i say this knowing full well that thats what our governments supposed to do so i dont need the angry tweets from people telling me that im an idiot, but what are the political perils in this day and age of hauling campaign official, white house official, family member, et cetera, in before Congress Every week . Theres always a risk that you appear that youre overreaching. But i dont think that in this particular case thats a huge risk because there is a lot of misbehavior. There are a lot of things that can be investigated and should be investigated. Theres ramp rnt corruption, some of those federal agencies where people are using taxpayer money for phone booths and private security. So thats a waste of taxpayer money. So if youre saying we are investigating to ensure your tax money is not going to Scott Pruitts body guards, who in the epa needs body guards . I think if youre explaining to the American People were conducting this investigation for this specific reason to save you money, that then becomes less of a partisan conversation. But at the same time you have republicans like and not that particular argument but republicans like rand paul saying when it comes to Campaign Finance violations that everybody would be subject to those violations no, no. But you do have that, and there is a segment of the population who will say, oh, yeah, paperworks really in saying, well, this always works, its working for trump. He keeps playing to his base and it works. Whats the standard were talking about here . Hes still in office, thats true but hes less popular than ever. The Republican Party is shrinking especially when you look at the house. And when you have democrats out there now leading the house and able to make this case in a more forceful way, they can push back on that argument. You know who does, the Southern District of new york. I think youve got to go back to two things, one someone like Chuck Rosenberg will say just because you try to rob a bank and youre not successful in robbing a bank doesnt mean you didnt commit a crime. The crime is still there. And two, the reason i push back on all of this because i remember vividly being a reporter on the 2016 campaign trail and hearing people say what sounded things pretty absurd on television and everyone going of course, no ones going to buy that and hearing a completely different thing when i was on the road. So i think the conversation to be had is one of, well, what does break through and whats the fundamental strategy . Heres the problem i think for republicans and actually looking at the bigger picture, they dont know whats going to come out on the president through the Mueller Investigation. Thats what theyre afraid of. So the political side of this, the democrats should do thorough and complete investigations. I think thats the right thing to do because both parties, whoever is in charge should do that. But they should not do the grandstanding that the republicans did. The republicans went way too far and tried to make too much political hay. Are you talking about Newt Gingrich in the 90s no, im talking about benghazi hearings, how many do you need . Surely the first dozen was enough. But the point is they can go about their business and wait until mueller lays out his case and then really deliver it in a way that wont be as divisive. Because if there is something there, we dont know, republicans will start moving away because thats thats an interesting strategy. Does it include staying away from cable news and talking about it as well . They have been doing it to a degree, yes, but after the filing with the democratic conference coming in, the new comers, you have two different types of people storming the house, if you will. You have people who beat incumbents in primaries and challenged them on the left. And then you also have a lot of people who won in general elections in swing districts by being moderates. So you have a lot of new people yelling for a lot of Different Things and thats where playing to which constituency do you want on cable tv. But at the end of the day i think democrats will be able to talk about policy and but i think really the big point here is democrats know they need to build a National Case so absolutely theyll be an cable tv and theyve been pretty open about that. But i think one of the big differences between now and we had this conversation between now or a similar one is at that time trump didnt have four or five Campaign Associates in jail already. Thats a pretty good point. And not dozens of people around him who have been accused of lying and been caught in those lies. Wow, leaving me almost speechless. Thats what im hear for. Stay with us. Ahead the west wing drama unfolding inside the white house. John kelly is leaving, and so is his expected replacement. So who will be the next chief of staff . The greatest wish of all. Is one that brings us together. The lincoln wish list event is here. Sign and drive off in a new lincoln with 0 down, 0 due at signing, and a complimentary first months payment. Only at your lincoln dealer. From capital one. Nd i switched to the spark cash cardt. I earn unlimited 2 cash back on everything i buy. And last year, i earned 36,000 in cash back. Which i used to offer Health Insurance to my employees. 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He tweeted the Paris Climate Accord is not working out so well for paris. Protests and riots all over france. Later he added, very sad day and night in paris. Maybe its time to end the ridiculous and extremely expensive Paris Agreement and return money back to the people in the form of lower taxes. That drew a rebuke from the French Foreign minister who told the lci tv station that we dont take part in american debates, let us live our own national life. Im joined now from paris by christopher dickey, msnbc contributor. At the heart of it, these protests were they just about the gas tax, and if broader, why are folks so unhappy about president macrons presidency . Well, there are a lot of reasons, but the gas tax issue is behind us now. All the things that had to do with the french cars, their beloved automobiles, all of that was done away with more than a week ago. So right now the question is why do they hate macron so much, as you asked. And part of it is personal style. A lot of it is the sense that he is now the president of the rich and for the rich. And the french really dont like the rich. There is a kind of a vindictive quality to French Society that says if you are rich then you are making me poor. And that is very active now in this yellow vest movement. That is true. Theres a lot of resentment especially to those who own apartments or flats along and they say it belongs just to foreigners who are wealthy or other french from money, so theres definitely a lot of builtup resentment there. Is it enough for macron to say im going to raise minimum wage . No, im afraid its not going to be enough. Well see this coming saturday whether it is. Hes basically got a three fold strategy. One is very tough police crack down. Im sure you saw the videos from last saturday. I was out on the street the whole time. Basically the police protected the art de triomphe behind me and very effectively but they pushed these people who break things, the vandals if you will, down into my neighborhood among other neighborhoods where they did a lot of damage. Well see if they can do better control this time. So far theyve booked 4,000 people during four saturdays of protests. The other part of this strategy is to address the fundamental issues for really the lowest pay levels of society by lowering their taxes, by taking away taxes that were being put on retirees, by raising the minimum wage, and by making overtime something that wont be taxed and by encouraging also encouraging employers to give a christmas bonus. All of those are nice things. Maybe it will deflate the movement somewhat, but well see on next saturday. How much of this is about the Paris Climate Accords as the president here in america is trying oo make it out to be . Look, it started out that way. Basically what macron did was to say that on january 1 there would be yet another tax on fuel. Diesel fuel and gasoline that the french use on their cars. And this caused a huge amount of resentment. And they also had to have their cars inspected, very tough inspections that would mean for a lot of people paying hundreds of euros or more or having to get a new car. And that created a lot of resentment. But the movement long ago got to be much bigger than that or at least much more aggressive than that. And its calling from everything from the resignation of macron to withdrawal from nato to you you name it, whatever you can come up with sitting down talking with the guys outside of roadblocks. And theres nobody to negotiate with. There is no leader of this movement. Its like the occupy wall Street Movement was back in 2011 but much more aggressive and very french. So who do you talk to end it . Its not like dealing with labor unions where youll get an agreement by the officials who are in charge of the union, which we had just a couple of days ago with the truckers. No, no. This is something thats like an amoeba. It sort of moves around and you cant get a grip on it. When the dissatisfaction spreads and theres no clear leader its hard to find one thing that will get them to stop. And ahead, democrats take control of the house next month. How will they handle the barrage of new mueller developments . Hi. I just wanted to tell you that chevy won a j. D. Power dependability award for its midsize carthe chevy malibu. I forgot. Chevy also won a j. D. Power dependability award for its lightduty truck the chevy silverado. Oh, and since the chevy equinox and traverse also won chevy is the only brand to earn the j. D. Power dependability award across cars, trucks and suvsthree years in a row. Phew. Third times the charm. Be right back. 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How much of the Mueller Investigation and the things that we are learning so far about donald trump, specifically about the Campaign Finance violations since youre on the ov oversight committee, do you plan on investigating and how aggressively . Well, obviously this is going to be a shared responsibility with other committees. Intelligence, judiciary, and oversight. Its impossible to say how much were going to do and when so long as the Mueller Report is still not out and obviously there are other shoes to fall here. I will say this, katie, fridays filings by both the special prosecutor and the Southern District of new york, frankly, move us into flashing red territory for donald trump. We cant ignore the fact that the department of justice through two different prosecutors said that individual one, President Trump, coordinated and directed an illegal activity. And when you say that, you mean the Campaign Financial violation . Thats right. Thats right. And that doesnt even address obstruction of justice or collusion. But now we have a crime for which mr. Cohen will be sentenced that was directed and coordinated by individual one. Do you believe thats an Impeachable Offense . Absolutely. Whether or not we proceed to impeachment, thats a political question. But it seems to me all of us have to understand the gravity of what happened friday. We take an oath to uphold the constitution of the united states, and therefore we have a sacred obligation to the country to respect the process of impeachment and use it very sparingly and very judiciously. But when were faced with the kind of evidence we got friday i think we have to start to look at question more seriously than in the past. Lets unpack that for a moment. You just said you believe its an Impeachable Offense, but youre not sure whether you would impeach him for that offense or bring up articles of impeachment for that. How can something be impeachable if youre not going to impeach him for it . Well, im not prejudging whether he gets to impeachment. What i said was its a political process. Its not just a legal process. And so we want to see what else Robert Mueller has and how he stitches this together. And when he elaborates on the role of individual one, because remember friday was about cohen and manafort. Does he opine as to the understanding and willfulness of mr. Trumps actions . Because going to a violation of Campaign Financial law does require a willful violation of the law. Youve got to understand what youre doing and do it anyhow. And that piece we dont know yet. How much more do House Democrats need in terms of building a case to impeach this president , if you were to pursue that . I think as i said weve got Campaign Financial violations, then theres obstruction of justice, which i think has been occurring in front of our faces right out in the open. And then theres the whole thing, the murky thing about collusion with russians. We know there were 14 different officials in the Trump Administration or campaign who had contacts with the russians. Almost all of them to a person who lied about it. We want to know a lot more about that. And mueller really hasnt shown us that yet. If you say its a political process, impeachment, if thats the case with this current senate, youre not going to get it through that senate. Hes not going to get impeached. They wont convict him with the republicans as they stand. So if its just a political process here, whats the point of even pursuing it . Well, katie, i didnt say its just a political process. I said its also a political process. For example, when Ronald Reagan was in the white house i can remember tom foley, then speaker of the house saying pointblank we werent going to impeach Ronald Reagan. Even though certainly reagans knowledge of involvement in iran contra absolutely was an Impeachable Offense. So political decisions get made on whether you drop the hammer or not, whether its politically sustainable, what the costs are to the country at the time, and you can get through a trial in the senate that unlike the house requires two thirds votes. How difficult is this for democrats, this question of where the line is for this president , politically speaking . I think its a very difficult question if youre being diligent about your obligations constitutionally as a member of the house. And frankly, for most of us democrats this is something we gid not want to happen now. We want to take that oath on january 3rd and restore oversight of the executive branch and repair the damage done to the legislative branch by the republicans for the last eight years. The last thing in the world we wanted at this time was this kind of filing that occurred friday because i think as i said it moves us into that flashing red territory. We would prefer not to be right now. Interesting. Congressman jerry connolly, thank you very much for being here. And ahead, who could be the next white house chief of staff . Were going to show you the short list. Its a miracle he survived. [ gasps ] i got your back. Based on an inspirational true story. They knocked me down, but ive created a world where i can heal. Hey, hey. Lookin good. Welcome to marwen. I got dreams in my head and they wont go welcome to healing. You need to face those jerks who beat you up. Welcome to hope. I have my friends, and they cant take that away from me. Hell yeah. Woo when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Girl, pepto ultra coating will treat your stomach right. Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Try pepto with ultra coating. 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Ask your doctor about oncedaily trelegy and the power of 123. Trelegy 123 save at trelegy. Com. Time now for the lid. The panel is back. Im so sad the viewers didnt get to see your little wake yourself up dance you did before you came on camera. It was special. Lets talk about trumps chief of staff woes. He announces john kelly is leaving, everyone looks to nick ayers and oh, no nick ayers doesnt want to stay. That would be embarrassing for any presidency. Why would nick ayers not to wor for this president . Hes been in the vps office. He probably doesnt want a future of legal bills and all that entails. It doesnt mean that he would be involved in anything untoward as chief of staff, but certainly hes going to be need a lawyer to be questioned about what hes observing. Thats just like a burden a 36yearold would probably not want. And there are a lot of layers. Part of it is like lets ask Rex Tillerson who wouldnt want this job. Everyone who works for trump and departs gets that barrage. But hes an interesting proxy for the establishment of the Republican Party. Listen, what hes seeing is what youre hearing from a lot of republicans who are not that closely associated with the white house. They dont like the trajectory of this thing. Theyre basically saying, i dont want to be that closely associated. Why arent we seeing more people like that . We just dont know their names at this point, there arent that many left. Theres some high profile left that havent made any moves. A lot of them a lot more loyal to the president. Nick ayers, not to say that hes been disloyal specifically, but hes known as a rising star, hes been in pence world for a long time. If things are starting to look really bad, and people are starting to get worried, why ma maintain that loyalty . I have no idea. Ive had this same question. Actually sense charlottesville, like really, guys, youre going to get up and go to work . I think ive always had that question. I do think people like to be in close proximity to power. So the reason why they stay is because that gives them access to the president of the united states, and all that office entails. And so, they want to be next to the power. But the democrats have a different view. You want people who are close interesting. There are a lot of folks out there being considered for this chief of staff job, or at least we think theyre being considered. Mark meadows, Randy Lavigne of the yankees. You can see up here on the screen here, Matt Whitaker. David bossy is an interesting choice. He was part of the campaign. But our own jeff bennett was waved off him earlier today. Someone else who hasnt been mentioned, and only in the trump universe would this potentially work, was kellyanne conway. She was campaign manager, she knows how to handle trump. Shes been in the white house for two years. So shes seen the operations. I know people are going to go bezerk on twitter, but shes exactly what the president needs, someone that can do the political stuff and give him the gossip every day, and it just could work for him under this time. I think one thing were going see, no matter what, listen, far be it from me to make predictions what is going to happen, the president could be tweeting about who his next chief of staff is, but he likes us talking about this and not about mueller. So i wouldnt be surprised for this show to be going on for a bit longer. There have been people who said to the president , you dont really need a chief of staff. So maybe hes just going to drag this out for a while. Look at that list. It was six middle age white guys. I mean, i think if hes going to bring in potential diversity, that makes diversity something. Whats his face, excuse my brain fart, i was on an Early Morning flight this morning from a foreign country. Chris christie, thats todays whats his face in my mind, was being talked about in my mind for a chief of staff job. His name keeps getting floated for anything. Hes been in Public Office and handled a variety of Different Things in an executive capacity, so he could be a good chief of staff, but i dont think anybody could be a good chief of staff with trump, because he doesnt listen. So even if Chris Christie got into the role and set up some sort of organizational structure, it doesnt matter because the president will do what he wants. Ndidnt Sarah Huckabee sandes announce she was leaving . The days are blurring. Were going to look this up. Someone is already telling me. Gabe, thank you very much. Thank you. You can go out there and do your dances. Hes going to yell at he during the break. Ahead, throwing shade. You might take something for your heart. Or joints. But do you take something for your brain. 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