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To testify because he knows hes done nothing wrong. This is mtp daily and it starts right now. Good evening, im katy tur in new york in for chuck todd, welcome to mtp daily. We begin with democratic visions of vengeance, payback, retaliati retaliation, whatever you want to call it for the president s choice for the Supreme Court. Youre looking live at the white house right now where mr. Trump will officially announce his choice tonight at 9 00 p. M. In primetime, of course. He has now decided who he will pick and that is according to a person familiar with the matter. On this issue, the Democratic Base is angry and powerless and some are hungry for revenge. Chuck schumer got an earful at a recent town hall. We are in a gun fight and we have a butter knife, one town hall attendee said. Another likened the situation to a basketball game where rips were slitting throats on the court while democrats were working on their bounce passes. And the New York Times Editorial Board recently wrote this is all the more reason for democrats and progressives to take a page from the godfather and go to the mattresses on this issue. That frustration is likely to intensify because some folks in democratic leadership, like dick durbin, are already predicting theyre going to lose this fight over the president s pick. Im sure many in the Democratic Base believe we have the power to stop this Supreme Court pick, but the grim reality is that we have some power but not the power to stop this. And even the folks at the liberal Advocacy Group invisible are telling the base lets be clear, democrats have no way to hold up this confirmation or delay the process. In the end, democrats are hoping to translate the bases frustration about being powerless into votes, to put them back into power. If you dont like the ways that this new justice is going to impact everything from reproductive rights and health care, the preexisting condition protection to labor rights and Voting Rights, speak up, get active and vote. Thats frankly our best tool. But guys, if this fight is about riling up a base thats talking about slitting throats and going to the mattresses to avenge this pick, whats the strategy to actually avenge this pick . One columnist on the left says should democrats manage to retake the senate in november, they should refuse to confirm any trump nominations to the federal bench, including the Supreme Court. Others are arguing if they take back power, its time to pack the court. Desperate times call for desperate measures. And a recent piece in politico urges the party to just say to heck with it. If they take back washington, grant statehood to d. C. And puerto rico and break california in seven, adding 16 new democrats to the senate. Expand the Supreme Court and the federal courts, packing them with liberal judges. Move to multimember house districts to roll back the effects of partisan gerrymandering. Pass a new Voting Rights act, including nationwide automatic voter registration. Felon enfranchisement and end to voter i. D. Laws. Grant citizenship to millions of undocumented immigrants, creating a host of new democraticleaning voters. You know, beat the gop into absolute submission. Im joined now by krchristopher kang who is from the liberal Advocacy Group demand justice which plans to spend 5 million in ads opposing the president s nominee. Zerlina maxwell is a former Clinton Campaign advisor and the director of progressive programming at sirius xm. Jake sherman is a Senior Writer at politico, and susan del percio is a republican strategist. All right, christopher, im going to start with you. Youre going to spend 5 million opposing this pick, but people on the left, including your old boss, dick durbin, say its a lost cause. Look, i think this fight is not about vengeance or retaliation, its about education and activation. Senator durbin is right, invisible is right, we dont have a majority of democrats who can on their own stop this nomination from moving forward. But on the two key issues where this nomination is going to be fought, with the facilities to overturn roe versus wade and the battle to overturn the Affordable Care act, there are a majority of senators on both sides of the aisle who could stand up and stop this nomination from moving forward and thats the fight that were going to have. President trump has made clear he has a litmus test for any of his nominees, that they will overturn roe versus wade automatically so there will be punishment for the woman, as he said. None of his justices would make the mistake of Justice Roberts in upholding the aca. We know regardless of which one of those four he picks tonight, thats a vote to overturn roe versus wade and a voted to overturn the Affordable Care act. Thats the fight were going to have and quite frankly i think thats a fight that we can win. Is that the reality of how senators are seeing it right now, murkowski, collins . I think the strategy here if there is one is to not answer that question directly, which is how some candidates for the bench have dealt with it before. They have said on roe v. Wade, well judge the case on the merits and well decide lets be honest, theyre coming from the Federalist Society. Theyre coming from a place that has made that a litmus test. Theres no question that each of these candidates has expressed some sort of pause about roe v. Wade in the past and thats why theyre on this list. But they will in these confirmation hearings from all indications weve seen not answer that question directly, which gives people like murkowski and collins an ability to vote for the candidate if they want to. What do you make, zerlina, of this idea of going to the mattresses, of doing everything you can when democrats are back in power in order to stop republicans from gaining in the future . Splitting california up into seven different states, which by the way would require not only the consent of california and an act of congress, but a signature from the president of the United States. That list was a fun list. It had some completely unrealistic things like the one you just mentioned but it had important things like shoring up Voting Rights and making sure that felons are able to vote once they have served their time and are out of prison. Thats something that is a movement that is building state by state across the country. What democrats need to focus on is the fact this is an important moment for messaging around not just roe v. Wade, also Voting Rights. You also have other issues, civil rights, gay rights, that are all going to come before the court. Aca is just another tenet that will come before the court in terms of preexisting conditions. So democrats can use this as an opportunity to lay it out for the american people. This is whats at stake. You know, make no mistake about it, it is at stake. Everything is at stake. Is that going to galvanize democratic voters . Yes, it is. Youve seen them in the streets. There was a womens march, a climate march, a science march. We just marched for immigration making sure that children are treated humanely on the border. Of course that will rile up the base. You made a face. I think this is the same problem that republicans have had the last couple of years which is they in 2010 promised to completely gut the Affordable Care act with barack obama in office. They said they were not going to raise the debt ceiling without corresponding cuts. They promised the world and they did win back the majority. Now they have had eight years of complete legislative calamity after legislative calamity. So governing in this climate where you have a fiery right or left wing and a group of moderates like democrats have right now and will have in the future is a recipe for future. So leonard leo, the man at the Federalist Society behind all of these picks, behind this choice that donald trump has presented these conservative picks, the daily beast has a profile of him. They spoke exclusively to a guy named tom carter, who is leos Media Relations director formerly. He said leonard leo was a visionary. He figured out 20 years ago that conservatives had lost the culture war. Abortion, gay rights, contraception, conservatives didnt have a chance if Public Opinion prevailed so they needed to stack the courts. Thats right. Thats exactly right. Now, i would take a little exception with what zerlina said in that i dont think they need to promise everything in the 2018 election. The nominee, whoever it is, will be a conservative, we know that. We know they have been picked by the Federalist Society so they tick off a whole host of things. But i think what you referred to, the womens march is spot on. I think if you make one or two issues a priority in this Midterm Election, you will galvanize exactly who you need to galvanize if youre a democrat and want to take back the house, because were going into moderate districts, swing districts. So i think if you start bringing up everything, thats not necessarily a strategy to win. And republicans will jump on that because its the whole kitchen sink. Then you get to bring in every the extreme left into the argument. Stay on a smart message. Lets face it, Kennedy Kennedy resigning may in fact lead to donald trump being impeached in january 2019. Why . Why do you say that . Because i think its if played properly, i think that getting the womens turnout numbers up, which is what you really have to look at when you look at 2017 as a whole. Its voter turnout numbers. Republicans can only get out so many people. They get out the same number time and time again. Whats different is that the democrats have been doing a broader reach, theyre not just going to their prime voters, theyre trying to expand their base. Thats what we saw with joe crowley in new york. And if the democrats can seize and get a message on one thing like that, i think that women really care about, i think that leads to a swing. Thats the biggest fear for republicans right now. It sounds like it should be relatively easy, christopher, in having this conversation, but also if youre looking at just that quote i just read from the daily beast and are talking about leonard leo who knows that Public Opinion is not going to be on the side that conservatives are on the side of, thats why they have to stack the court, shouldnt it be easy for the majority of americans then to come out and vote for democrats if the majority of americans believe in abortion rights, if they believe in gay rights, if they believe in voting i. D. A repeal of the voter i. D. Act, things like that. Shouldnt it be easy . It sounds like it should be. It should be because absolutely republicans time and time again are unable to accomplish their extremely conservative policy goals through congress or through the executive branch, so theyre seeking to do it through the courts. Again, overturning roe versus wade is they can pass those bans in congress so will try to do it in the courts. President trump and republicans in congress failed to overturn the aca in congress and so theyll try to do it in the courts. This is the opportunity that progressives have to find now where we tie together the impact of the courts on the issues that everybody cares about. If youre marching in the streets to keep families together, the courts matter to you. If you care and youre calling your senators about the muslim ban, the courts matter to you. Its more than just womens rights, its more than lgbt equality, its every single issue progressives care about. Where we are reflecting a majority of the countrys views, that at the end of the day its going to come down to the courts and its up to us to fight not just for this Supreme Court but for every single one of these lifetime judicial vacancies. Jake, as the reporter on this panel . A little late for that in this time. Mitch mcconnell and donald trump have filled oneeighth of the Federal District court system. They have orchestrated it, a massive takeover of the judiciary. Not in a nefarious way, they have used their power to put judges that they want on the court. Democrats have traditionally not voted on court vacancies. You have to also keep in mind the fact that donald trump has pretty good Approval Ratings right now. The right track wrong track is ticking up for him. His Approval Rating is pretty solid. The numbers that we see right now, unemployment rate, do not indicate theres a broad dissatisfaction with republican governan governance. There are some indicators that do. Frankly, when i talk to republicans and democrats in d. C. , theyre saying the numbers right now do not indicate a wave. So what do the democrats do . If they dont indicate a wave, do the democrats tow the moderate line or go full on Bernie Sanders, elizabeth warren, progressive were going to take it to the extreme . Bernie sanders isnt the only person that has progressive messages. Im just saying the two people that come to mind. No, Bernie Sanders is one example of how to be a progressive and there are other examples. I also say that a lot of these issues intersecretat. Im a black woman. Womens rights impact me, voters rights impact me. So if you think about how these issues intersect with one another, democrats can find an opportunity to get a lot of women of color, who win elections if you look at all of the data, if you get women of color excited and involved and engaged in these issues impacting their lives directly, which they do, i think that that is the recipe for democratic success at the ballot box. Whos the figure thats going to do that, though . Who is the democratic figure that is going to go out in this Midterm Election and say you need to get involved . Is it going to be barack obama who has done it for the past several cycles . No. Hes not in office anymore. I actually think thats the wrong question. Often were looking for that bright shiny one person to save the party and i dont think that thats going to be the answer in 2018 or beyond. Its not one person. In 2018, i agree, there is not one person whos going to do it. For either side to win, its got to be played in their districts. If they go and make it a d. C. Argument, depending on which theyre going, its going to be a very bad argument. This should be the least d. C. Like Midterm Election weve ever seen. Look at pennsylvania for that. Guys, stay with us. Panel, stay with us. Christopher kang, thank you very much. Ahead, dont let the Supreme Court news distract you. Theres a whole lot more going on at the white house, and some of it is indeed precarious. So, i have this recurring dream. Im 85 years old in a job where i have to wear a giant hot dog suit. What . Wheres that coming from . I dont know. I started my 401k early, i diversified. Im not a big spender. Sounds like youre doing a lot. 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All eyes are on President Trumps Supreme Court announcement tonight which means eyes are off some rough story lines for this white house, like the fact that the president supposedly landmark summit with north korea is unraveling with pyongyang saying the u. S. Had a gangst gangsterlike demand for denuclearization. President trump heads to the nato summit tomorrow. The fact that after the nato summit the president will meet with natos biggest critic, vladimir putin. Will the president treat putin better than americas nato allies . And will he take russia to task for election meddling . And dont forget the fallout from the president s trade war. The separation of migrant families at the border and more. The Supreme Court nomination may offer a momentary distraction, but these issues are not going away any time soon. Lets bring back tonights panel, zerlina maxwell, jake maxwell, susan del percio. What is the president doing . What is the strategy . Does he really like putin so much more than he likes everybody else . I dont know what his strategy is. I think bob mueller is looking into exactly what his strategy is and what is the intention behind his actions and his words. I think that slowly were getting to a point where the answer is going to be ugly. There just defies explanation however many times hes defending putin or not criticizing him while criticizing Justin Trudeau or someone who is our staunch ally. I dont know what his strategy is, but i hope that its not what we all have predicted for the past few years. How is he going to be received at this nato summit . Ian bremmer was on cbs saying when he was meeting with merkel up in canada for the g7, he threw a couple of starbursts or something on the table and said here, angela, dont tell you i never gave you anything and then he gets on a plane and starts fighting with Justin Trudeau before he goes and shakes hands and smiles warmly with the dictator of north korea. As recently as a couple of days ago he was tweeting about being treated unfairly by nato member countries. He has a obsession, a preoccupation with the fact that the United States is getting the short end of the stick when it comes to its membership in nato arent we getting the shortest end of the stick from russia, who interfered in our election . Thats a question that trump will have to confront and one of the things that is most unusual about this summit in helsinki is the fact that the president will be in a room with putin alone without any aides or translators or anything like that, which is unusual to say the least for two World Leaders, especially two World Leaders that are in somewhat if not very hostile situation depending on who you talk to. Hes in a trade war with china, billions of dollars of tariffs levied against china and theyre levying billions of dollars of tariffs against us. Hes now fighting essentially with north korea, who theyre claiming that they dont want to denuclearize and suddenly we said, hey, you agree as if anyone was surprised this was going to happen. Doesnt he need doesnt he need nato to be on his side in order to have any sort of leverage or any sort of muscle behind him when he tries to fight back against those two countries . He should want that, but i think the president views things through a different lens than any other american president , which is im the big guy in town. What i want, my values are going to be in play. These nato countries are a bunch of little countries. And lets not forget, when donald trump thinks of americas values, he thinks of it as a balance sheet, which is the furthest thing from what this countrys values are. When we look at nato, when we look at free trade, we think of it as a stabilizing this world. Donald trump doesnt care about that. Hes more obsessed with i think not just russia but putins money involved. He respects that. Its not just that hes an authoritative leader, its that putin is extremely wealthy. And i think thats something he respects. So his values looking at it through the lens of donald trump is so hard because its so un its so not what were used to as a nation. If you know anything, and im not just trying to call out names, im talking about the characteristics that are associated with narcissism, thinking everything is about you, a lack of empathy, these are traits that the president has bingo and bingo. Has demonstrated. Its not really at this point something that im speculating on. Im just using examples. You know, its amazing to think how far the relationship has come, because a few years ago, russia banned from coming into the country the speaker of the house at the time, john boehner, john mccain. Trumps now and a Trump Administration official, dan coats of indiana, whos now a Top National Security official in the trump white house, its easy to not remember that this relationship is pretty hostile still. Who spent fourth of july in russia . A number of republican senators. They had announced that it wasnt a surprise deal. Richard shelby of alabama, john thune of south dakota, two very senior members of Senate Republican leadership and committee chairs. Its just so striking for a Republican Party it was very surprising. It wasnt a secret trip. Correct. But it shows how much donald trump has coopted this party and brought them along to what he believes rather than what they believed or held true before donald trump was elected. Ive asked this question before and im going to ask it again. Weve got a year and a half under our belts so maybe the answer is a bit clearer. For our nato allies, do they look at what donald trump says or do they look at what his administration is trying to do . For instance, defense secretary james mattis talks about wanting to build up nato. Donald trump talks about no one paying up. You have pompeo trying to get north korea to make a deal. Then you have the president saying deals made, done, all great, wonderful. The Intelligence Community saying russia hacked our election. Donald trump saying he believes vladimir putin. So who do they trust . Do they trust the president speaking or do they trust the rest of our government . Based on their actions, it looks like theyre trusting the administration. Even though today donald trump is espousing certain views that seem contradictory to every other american president , hes just going to be here for a short amount of time and so they can stick it out until perhaps hes out of office and then go back to the relationship they had previously. But i think that if you go based on their actions, it looks to me based on all of the reporting that they are looking at the actions of the administration and not necessarily what donald trump says because that could change by tomorrow. But heres the problem. As much as they wanted to originally and six months in they were like what have we got here . But they are very concerned. You look at merkel who has a tough time managing her government, theresa may is in huge trouble. These are having immediate effects right now and they can only hope that when they speak to Administration Officials that they will be able to wriright a least some of the course and just become numb to Donald Trumps rhetoric. I think a lot of these allies look at the legislative branch as a backstop because they hear from paul ryan and Mitch Mcconnell that the United States is not inching away from the nato alliance. So what does that say about the president , that no one takes him seriously . I think they realize that hes not the ultimate decider, that there still is a legislative branch with whom these countries have had longstanding relationships. I imagine probably really angers the president. If the president doesnt respect the oval office, its very hard for other World Leaders to. Thats what hes done. He has become this voice and thats why i think jakes point is so spot on. They look at our government operationally, and our judicial system as probably also a backstop, but, boy, i mean how you cant listen to donald trump. What does it say . It says this is who we elected and boy, are we in a mess. Panel, stick around. Ahead, is President Trump in a fix over his fixer . Michael cohen signals he could cooperate with the Mueller Probe. What that could mean for the commander in chief. We have got a problem. A few problems actually. Weve got aging roadways, aging power grids,. Aging everything. We also have the ageold problem of bias in the workplace. Really. 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This is the most corrupt investigation i have ever seen that the Justice Department is allowing to go forward. This all comes amid signals that President Trumps personal fixer, Michael Cohen, could cooperate with prosecutors. Giulianis message on meet the press, go right ahead. In fact, you know, if he wants to cooperate, i think its great. Weve been through all his records. I know michael. Joining me now to discuss these developments is mimi roka, former assistant u. S. Attorney in the Southern District of new york. Today on my 2 00 p. M. Show ben wittes said Rudy Giuliani was e beclowning himself. Joe scarborough said the same thing this morning. If you see him saying these things, what do you think . Well, you dont take him seriously. My guess is they have a good chuckle about it. Giuliani is saying things that are just completely preposterous to try and sort of distract from the fact that this president cannot sit down for an interview because hes incapable of telling the truth. Giuliani keeps talking about we want to get to the truth, were all about the truth, everyone keeps talking about transparency. That is not accurate. Would they in any other circumstance, say it was a different president , somebody who didnt lie six and a half times a day as the Washington Post has pointed out in their calculation of how many lies or falsehoods has said so far, wouldnt the lawyer still not want him to sit down with the prosecutor . Well, look, it is true that criminal Defense Attorneys often counsel their clients to not meet with prosecutors. But then again, many who have clients who really have done nothing wrong, as this president has repeatedly claimed over and over publicly, they do sit down with prosecutors. Sometimes if prosecutors minds need to be changed, they do change their minds. Ive seen it happen. Theres also this. Yesterday on meet the press Rudy Giuliani said that they would be open to sitting down as long as mueller proved that his investigation was warranted and that there was stuff there. Is the onus on mueller to prove to the person who is being investigated that there is reason for them to be investigated . Is that the way it works . No. And theres two things wrong with that. One, as you say, someone who is under some kind of investigation doesnt get to put demands on the government and say show me your evidence before ill come in and talk to you. They can choose to talk or not and then they can pace subpoena or not, which here is complicated, but that could happen. But the other issue is, remember, this investigation is not at its core about donald trump. It is about russia attacking our elections. And of all people, everyone, but including the president of the United States should want to be as helpful in that as possible if they really did nothing wrong. So the idea that the president is not going to be helpful and give evidence and give whatever, it doesnt have to be about him, but he makes everything about him. Say mueller does have to subpoena the president , just say he does in order to get him to testify, and say that fight, that battle, goes all the way up to the Supreme Court and donald trump is now has his own two people that hes hand picked to the Supreme Court. Would they have to recuse themselves from a decision like that . They do not have to. I mean, first of all, Supreme Court justices are actually exempt from the are yrecusal ru that most federal judges have. It would be voluntary but it could be good in terms of giving the American Public faith in the outcome of whatever that case is for that justice to recuse themself. So i think, you know, weve heard some senators now on the record say theyre going to ask the nominee at their hearings whether or not they will recuse themself. Its not a have to, but its kind of a they should, if they want to give people faith in that decision, whatever that decision is if it goes to the Supreme Court, and in the court itself. Lets talk about Rudy Giuliani and Michael Cohen. Theres now a twitter spat between giuliani and lannie davis, Michael Cohens new lawyer, who was one of bill clint clintons lawyers during the kenneth starrinvestigation. Heres what lanny davis tweeted. Did Rudy Giuliani really say on sunday shows that Michael Cohen should cooperate with prosecutors and tell the truth . Seriously . Is that trump and giuliani definition of truth . Trump giuliani next to the word truth equals oxymoron. Stay tuned, the truth matters. Theyre getting very aggressive and very over the top, lanny davis coming out and getting into a battle with giuliani on twitter. Michael cohen very publicly saying that he believes in the fbi, taking donald trump off his twitter bio, making these overtures and telling certain reporters some things and other reporters other things, that he wants to cooperate. It seems very over the top to me. What is the strategy . Well, so theres two strategies, i think, going on with Michael Cohen. One is as far as we know hes retained guy petrello but he has not filed a notice of appearance, which is a formal sign that hes been retained. But as far as we know hes going to be the criminal defense lawyer. Then you have lanny davis who is clearly a pr person and theyre kind of fighting trump in his own battle on his own terms. Trump has been and giuliani have been waging this pr campaign against the Mueller Probe for, you know, months and months and pretty effectively. So i think this is cohen sort of doing something similar. But this is not cohen going after the investigation or the raid and saying that theres nothing there, nothing there, this is cohen kind of, it seems, going after the president , a man who he had formerly said hed take a bullet for. Is he trying to get the sdny to give him a better deal or trying to get the president to pardon him because hes scared of him . I think hes trying to get Public Opinion to not trust everything that the president and giuliani say, which is a good thing. As a prosecutor, former prosecutor, i wish they werent doing it publicly. Cohen should talk to the fbi and to prosecutors and not talk to reporters frankly and the public. But i understand why theyre waging this campaign. Hes trying to recreate his public image, i think, and why he doesnt need to do that, but i think he wants to. I think hes a man who likes the limelight, cares what people thinks, just like donald trump, and is sort of doing his equivalent now of trying to take down the credibility and legitimacy of donald trump and giulianis narrative. Hes trying to change the narrative with lanny davis. Its like a soap opera, as the world turns. Anyway, mimi rocah, thank you very much. Ahead, the government gets more time to reunite Migrant Children with their families, but how long will it really take . [music playing] across the country, we walk. Carrying flowers that signify why we want to end alzheimers disease. But what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzheimers first survivor . What if there were millions of them . Join us for the Alzheimers Association walk to end alzheimers. Register today at alz. Org walk. Show of hands. Lets get started. Who wants customizable options chains . Ones that make it fast and easy to analyze and take action . How about some of the lowest options fees . 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Before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. Learn all you can. To help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. Talk to your doctor about xarelto®. Time now for the lid. Only about half of the Migrant Children under the age of 5 who have been separated by their parents pby the president s 0 tolerance policy will be reunited by tomorrows courtordered deadline. A judge granted an extension to the reunification deadline. The panel is back to talk about it. So the government couldnt even make a deadline to reunite these kids. 3,000 kids. They are not keeping track of who is with whom, of which kid belongs to which parent. If youre talking about kids under the age of 5, whats the likelihood that a lot of those kids will be able to say their parents name and last name when if theyre 1 represent themselves in court. Theyre doing last name. I had to think about it. Exactly. If theyre doing dna testing, that, i presume, will cost a lot of money. The government has not been able to say yes, we can reunify all these kids with their parents. Thats the most troubling thing if youre an onlooker judging the situation because the government doesnt seem competent of that. From a political angle the president seems to say and i wanted to say this with you a couple weeks ago, katie, we had to end the segment. The white house thinks this is a good issue for them. Saying this is a 90 ten issue, abolishing i. C. E. Is a separate issue. And those that the democrats need to hold to keep the majority in the fall, separating kids from their families is not a 90 10 issue and would seem like a political loser. Having a 1yearold represent himself in court. In that does not look good for the administration or any elected official. Two things reflected is the humanity of it. I think she touched on something last segment when she talked about empathy, not only does this president not have anyy this administration doesnt. You look at policies they put in place when it has to do with people, they are clueless. The travel ban, they didnt know how to implement that, as if they werent individuals, things going back and forth. Nothing is worse than we see with this immigration crisis. They dont have the capability and didnt plan on it, dont know how government works. From a nut and bolts they dont respect the process. You have a mass departure of mid to high level managers, career Civil Servants when barack obama left. They never got replaced. This Administration Says we dont need employees, we dont need Civil Servants, yes, you do, to implement and hopefully fix a problem they have created. This is a reflection on competency and lack of they brainwashed their base to believe everybody a Civil Servant is part of the deep state, to. Theyre in a bubble and have their messaging what people who work for the government under multiple administrations what theyre about opposed to barack obama partisans trying to take down trump. If you just watched fox news, you would believe the nato allies were the enemy because they were building that narrative over a course of many years. Do they not know or not care about their policies . They dont understand how government fundamentally works. They dont care about people. When you have that combination in place, you end up with this disaster at the border on so many levels. Surprising. Not just that, you have a lot of democrats going out and trying to get answers. There are very few answers to give. If they cant meet this deadline, whos to say they will meet the next deadline and if they dont meet the next deadline and say these kids never get reunited, who is held responsible for that . What are the consequences. I believe the administration should be held responsible in the way voters can, to vet them out of office with the policy of putting babers into cages or toddlers, or sending them into court to represent themselves. Theres a video online with a toddler in court with headphones on. This is ridiculous and preposterous, this is our reality . On the flip side, democrats can talk about the humanity of it. The callousness theyre showing towards these people trying in some cases to legally seek asylum stems from racism. If were not going to talk about that fact and why Steven Bannon and miller are so thrilled by these images around the border. How do you change anybodys mind . It is an issue that works for them. You have to call out. If you couldnt change peoples views on racism i wouldnt be sitting here with you today. In the march on selma, it would change peoples minds on policy. Thanks so much. Good point. Jake sherman. Good to see you in person. I never get to see you in person. I know. Always good to see you. Always good to see you. Ahead, taking soccer by the horps. By the horns. By the horns. By the horns. Did you know you could be separated when you got here . Reporter here at the Border Patrol station, that is exactly what we saw. Translator she said it was horrible because they didnt let her say a few words of goodbye. Because they didnt let her say a few words of goodbye. Your brain changes as you get older. But prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered. In jellyfish. In clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. The name to remember. Sweat the details. Noticing what most will never notice. Its what you do. When the thing youre making. Isnt a thing. Its your reputation. The allnew ram 1500. Comfortably, the most luxurious truck in its class. And why more people are switching to ram than ever before. This wifi is fast. I know i know i know i know when did brian move back in . Brians back . He doesnt get my room. Hes only going to be here for like a week. Like a month, tops. Oh boy. Wifi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. In many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40s. In case you missed it, because frankly a lot of americans are missing it and shame on you for missing it, one of the most popular sporting events is happening now to the semifinals, france, croatia and england will battle it out for glory. That is huge. And the world will be watching. The last world cup reached 3. 2 billion viewers, billion with a b. Soccer still lags way behind football, basketball and baseball among popularity with americans. What can we do to make soccer great again in america . Test yes. That horn that soccer fans love to hate. Its monotonous drone adds such gravitas to the proceedings, dont you think . Maybe thats what america needs. Honestly, it couldnt hurt in washington, could it . [ horn blowing ]. Okay. That got me. Isnt that more exciting . America, lets got on it toot sweet, viva la france. Thats all for tonight. Well be back with more tomorrow. The beat starts. Katie, i couldnt be happier than to see you happy. I am. I didnt know you are a soccer person. I am. Some people dont know youre a global expert. Before you were our anchor, you were a global correspondent. Katie global citizen. Katie global citizen, im told when i travel soccer