But spends most of the night endorsing himself. And the worlds greatest deal the president remains optimistic about his meeting with kim jongun but where is the white house on an actual game plan . And silencing the storm. Trumps lawyers make a last ditch effort to keep Stormy Daniels from telling her side of startry. But first, President Trump unleashed. Watch this. Remember i used to tell you how easy it is to be president ial. But you would be out of here, would you be so bored. I was joking and said, ha, president for life, that sounds good, maybe we have to try it. When i was in china, and other places by the way, i said, mr. President , do you have a drug problem . No, no, no. I said, what do you attribute that to . Well, the death penalty. I tell you, we did a great job with the olympics, president moon of south korea said without President Trump the olympics would have been a total failure. We have done more than any first Term Administration in history of our country. We have. You had a victory. You elected your president. You like it. Do you like me . I think so. I like you, too. I love you. Letss be honest, the olympics never would have happened without President Trump. President trump and his favorite place, holding a rally near pittsburgh. In support of rick siccone. But this raleigh is about the president himself and his freewheeling speech, the president attacked the media, insulted female members of congress, suggested drug dealers be executed and taking sole credit for the olympics. Noel, i will start with you, the republican strategist here. Seems like you are the person to start with this morning. The joys of being a gop pundit. Joys, i love it. The joys. Thank you, jesus. You should get a tshirt that says that. So from the president s perspective so far, itll be a referendum on him. And he was stumping for rick siccone last night. Do you see it as that . It is. And i will tell you why it is important because look at the state of pennsylvania. This is a blue state. And the gop, trump, turned it red. Why . I think you have to look into the deeper meaning. And as what the state represents. The state represents the state of the working man. The blue collar man. I think that the sheer fact that the democrats were not able to get their message to resonate in th this, in this state, to keep it blue is interesting. I think that trump in a very strange way, even though he is a billionaire and whacky and out of touch and does crazy things and made the rally about himself instead of the race, i think that a lot of the working men see him as representing them and taking up for them. A long time ago the union started out taking care of the working man that didnt have a voice. Didnt have a voice. And now i feel like the unions are about the unions and donald trump actually with the steel, you know, steel workers, they feel like he is actually doing something and cutting deals for the working man. Money in their checks. Job creation, look at what the markets are doing. Pa18 is important. Because if we lose pennsylvania 18 this sets the stage for bad things that could happen. Meaning we could potentially lose the momentum and lose the state. Its very important. I was going to bring this up, jonathan, how risky is it for the president to see this on a referendum on his own presidency if he were to lose. If rick saccone were to lose on tuesday. The president sees everything as a referendum about the president. This is who he is. Whether from his Business Career to you know the campaign to this, his singular focus is sort of himself and becoming the story and he feels that it is that charisma and that personality that made him successful in 2016. He is president today. So to some degree of truth to that. On this particular race, you know, certainly there feels like a lot of democratic momentum right now going into this particular race and certainly coming up in the fall mid terms. They have racked up a number of sort of the high profile wins with Alabama Senate race being the biggest of them all. This is certainly a state as you said traditionally going blue, trump flips it. It is one of the states he is most proud of as winning. The swath of states michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and to a lesser extent, ohio. States that were democratic states in recent years that he won. That was his path. Through the industrial midwest. The rust belt that gave him the win. He is eyeing him already. There are tariffs news and a decision that divided his white house, one of his chief economic announcers, gary quits over it. He sees that decision as one that plays well in the states and can help him in 2020. Rallying his base. Yeah. Interestingly, he placed a lot of value on a rally that looked fom to th familiar to this one, in alabama, with roy moore. We know what happened. And i also think that a lot of us werent confident it would go that way. And he barely won. And then you add to that fact that steel unions have endorsed colin lamb. I think this is close and the fact that it is going to be close actually suggests that the supposed tsunami or wave that is coming, is still coming. Even if lamb loses by three points, republicans should still be worried. I think thats very clear. You are right on that. Because if it is that close, that should be a message to the gop, you know what, we need to kick it in gear. Even though we would be a win, it is so close to the margin that it could have been a also. Thats how the president will play it. Thats trump. I know it. If republicans win, even if it is by a small spread, we may have a result where both sides feel happy about it. Democrats will be lappy they lost the seat. This is a sign the enthusiasm behind our party still building and feeling good about november. I think for the president , like, look, hey, we won here. This is still pennsylvania. We won and maybe i was the difference coming in here at end with this rally. Off offedys point it seems like this should outside of the trump fear for democrats because of union support. There is actually 70,000 more registered democrats in the district than republicans. Because we are inside this trump sphere. I spoke to trump voters in pennsylvania on friday. Saw that. And we will see a bit of that in the next block. But these trump voters are digging their heels in. All trump all the way. What is interesting of that conversation, of the five you talked with, four voted for trump, one raised their hand. So if you get one trump voter voting the other direction but he still supported trump, though. That the thing. And have you an increased turnout of democrats, one defection and increased turnout could have an impact. Look what happened in austin. Look at texas. We are aware of it. Look at our fundraising efforts. You have to admit if democrats want to build on some of this momentum they need more money. Rnc has been outraising democrats. Why, i dont know. It has been a huge influx in raising yeah. Number one, they have steve wynn as finance chairman. I will say we arent showing this part but some voters i spoke to are frustrated with the amount of money spent on this election because it is only ten months. Then vote again in november. Sounds like georgia. Exactly. A lot more of this conversation coming up. Who comes up on top . I went to pennsylvania it talk to Trump Supporters about tuesdays special congressional election. Thats coming up. Do you feel like a vote for, aside from some people like jason, a vote for saccone is a vote for trump . Absolutely. 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For a democrat to win he has to convince trump voters to reject the Republican Party and its candidate. Will they do it and is this a referendum on President Trump himself . Here is what they had to say. Watch this. I want to start bay show of hands who voted for President Trump in 2016. So you all vietnamoted for pres trump. I think we all needed the change. I went into the polls undecided as to who i was voting for. We needed some kind of change. Did the outsider appeal do anything for you . It did. I was hoping an continue to hope that he will be a unifier, which so far hasnt happened. But you know, the drain the swamp thing and, you know, that was appealing. So again, show of hands, are all of you republicans . Registered republicans . Yes. Is it safe to say that nobody at it table has buyers remorse right now . I dont. I dont. I dont. Many of you voted for President Trump because all of you, it seems, because he had this outsider mentality. Who, in here, is leaning towards conor lamb by show of hands. You are. Who is undecided . No one . Who is leaning towards rick saccone . Are you decidedly rick saccone . Here is where im conflicted. In voting for donald trump as an outsider he brought certain principles out and talked about make America Great again, immigration, taxes. He laid out a plan that made sense to me. I was able to get my head around that. What is your reservation . To lamb . Because i dont know enough about him to say it swings me that far one way or the other. I would rather i just figured, with rick saccone why not try him . Huh . Why not try him . Because im just not convinced. We have two candidates here. Either one of them are uninspiring. There is no real policy by either one. By voting for rick saccone, im not leading into the mess of democrats resisting trump, talking about impeaching him, which would be disastrous for our country. Now i have to pick a worst of the the best of two bad choices, i think. Jason, youre up. Why do you want to vote for conor lamb . Odd man out in this crew. When this election started to happen, i really had no clue. I had heard of saccone, i never heard of lamb. But saccone has already been where hes at and i still have no clue what he stands for. He has had his chance. Not the skrooutsider mentality. He seems like a person that can hear both sides. This election has become more about the president than it has really filling the position. And thats a shame. Because i think the congress is so bitterly divided and when you look at the democratic agenda, it really just seems to be nothing but lets obstruct the president. So unfortunately, when youre faced with having to make a decision, with who can get the most done, here or what we can bring help to this region, right now i think anybody that can help forward the president s agenda, is in a likely person would be saccone. In talking to people around you and you yourself, do you feel like a vote for, aside from some people like jason, a vote for saccone is a vote for trump . Absolutely. And a vote for lamb is a vote against trump. Absolutely. Have you heard of people that voted for trump in this district that have now are now jumping ship and wanting to vote for lamb . Not in the circles i run with, no. No. Shaking your head no. No, more the other way. More the other way . I dont believe this election here is a referendum on trump. Okay . Regardless of what outcome is, i dont think that if saccone wins, Everybody Loves trump. If lamb wins, everybody hates trump. And the National Argument is well, you know, it emboldens those who are resisting our president. Right now, again why im voting for saccone, is i want to see trumps agenda given the clans. I think it is a safer way to see the agenda getting advanced instead of losing all of 2018 until we get, you know, let him get his three years in. At that point, you know, there might be an opportunity. But right here right now, these eight or nine months, i think the most effective person as a tool to get President Trumps agenda through would be saccone, for that reason. Not just because he is republican. If conor lamb were to be elected and found himself to be more of an open thinker and support some of the lengs lags proposed by the president , and give the president the bipartisan argument, that may start to move other congressman or politicses to do the same. If we can start to see a couple politicians start to take a bipartisan stance on serious issues, that may be the piece that, the catalyst that advances the ball. All right, my panel is back with me to discuss this. I saw you shaking your heads a lot during piece. I want to jump off what john said in the very end. Which is the little appeal that conor lamb had to him, even though he was voting for rick saccone, and eddie i will go to you on this one, is he is putting himself up there more as a centrist than republican. Seems more centrist than straight republican. If there are more democrats leading up to mid terms that have that more centrist appeal and platform, they could feasibly get that swing vote that the demes have been vying for. So that sounds like a proxy for deep and abiding frustration with the gridlock of d. C. Yeah. And it also revealed over the course of that conversation that the idea of 2016 is a change election will carry over to mid terms and carry over to 2020. I think we will have this change election, change undertow to the political process. What is interesting about this, and i think it is always dangerous for democrats to sound like republicans, because if you want something that looks like a duck or sounds like a duck last night, saying he might sound more centrist but if he gets there if it sound like a duck and is a duck, you will always choose the duck, right . So i think democrats get in trouble when they try to sound like republicans. They need to be democrats. Let me say this quickly. Sure. There is a demographic problem in the group. Where are the young people and millennials jason was 30. Yeah. And jason was the one who raised his hand saying he would vote for conor lamb. Thats an interesting issue. Thats good point. Thats a good point. And the interesting thing about what will turn out and the woman trump said last night, 52 of women, talking about white women, voting for him. Thats an interesting moment to kind of in some ways substantiate that claim about white women and support of trump. Illuminating the debate the Democratic Party will have. Do you go centrist to appeal to swing voters . Right now, so much energy on the real left of that party. Like that is where, you know, maybe it is, maybe it isnt. We will see. But thats where the passion is right now. Thats where we see the real resistance movement. Will that translate to electoral victories . We do not know yet. The other point is of course as stacey the voter in the video said, is that like you know, well i feel like this election is mostly about the president. Of course it is. And the old cliche is if you vote for the actual names on the ballot, it does seem like in this case and this year maybe, the, everyone is voting for the name or about the name, thats not on the ballot, trump. Is it a problem, even though as jonathan said, it may not get electoral victory but could feasibly help the democrats get their act together . They need to have a unifying voice. This is interesting. Because the republicans have had this problem for so long. We had could be servetive christian right, far, far right. Then the moderate. We have had intertwining of that. Which way do we go . Can which way does the brand of the gop go . When trump got elected, we didnt know. Is trump going to morph into the old gray elephant or is the, you know, is the old gray elephant, gop, going to have to morph into a golden trusted elephant. Same thing i think that democrats have to look at. You know, because it is very popular, elizabeth war, bernie sanders, far, far left. Where are we going . Where are the democrats go going . They have to figure it out and get it together so that they can unite and if they want to, try to win what do you think trump is . I think golden trusted. He does like the color gold as we have seen the interior of his home at trump tower. An agreement to sit down with kim jongun. Is kim really ready to make peace in big question. 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Thats why it is superimportant to chat with your eye doctor if youre using artificial tears a lot and your eyes still feel dry. Next question. Guys, its time for some eyelove ladies and gentlemen, please help me in welcoming home laura and luna lee. Many of us remembering that time, emotional home coming in 2009 for euna lee and laura ling. Captured in four months in north korea. Their release negotiated by former president bill clinton. After the country mixed lower level american officials. Now the most isolated country in the world with notorious record for human rights abuses is reaching out to President Trump and as white house prepares for the high stakes summit, many with firsthand knowledge of what it is like to deal with this government, they are urging caution. Here to share her story is euna lee, from voice of america. Euna, thanks for joining us thon sunday afternoon. Very much appreciate it. You have very much a story. I know laura a as journalist. Talk to me about what happened and how you ended up in north korea . Oh, wow, its been a while. Laura, my colleague laura ling and i were reporting a story about north korean defectors when we captured. North korea defectors was my focus at the time. At the border of north korea and china wrb whe china, where the tumen river runs. It was our last day of filming in china. We wanted to check out the route that north korean defectors take. We were interest there to film the location and were found by north korean insurgeance. Were that point in north korean te korean territory or in south korea or the demill thitarized . Well we were half way in the river with , so you cant reall tell if we were on north korea side or china side. But we ran as fast as we could to chinese soil thinking we were safe. But they came all wait to chinese soil and drag back to us north korea. How long were you there, euna, and what was it like . Was there for 140 days. Amazing being in the prison is with no reason is difficult but ways 5,000 miles away from home. And there was no communication with family. And uncertainty for tomorrow. Was very difficult. And always the message was one way. I received letters from home but i couldnt send back to respond back to them. Or i was able to send back one letter to home during the but i didnt know they receive letter until i came home. How were you treated while you were there . It was a long interrogation period. For months of monday through saturday which was very, very hard. But compared to what north koreans in prison, i think we were treated fairly. They gave us three meals a day. Small portions. Very simple rice and often fried fish. But i lost 17 pounds during the time. So i couldnt imagine without those meals if i could have survived. And what do you think now, euna, of this latest news hearing that president has agreed to meet with kim jongun . Kim jongun wanting to meet President Trump and President Trump say he is willing to meet, who to meet with kim jongun, not sure we have two months if it happens, it is going to be the first summit between the u. S. And north korea in a historical event. But two months anything can happen. At this moment we have three korean americans who are still detained in north korea and hopefully during time that their case canning on the table and then they can come home. Do you think thats an important part of this entire negotiation and process thats happening between the president and kim jongun . It is demanding those people come home before he sits down . With kim jongun. Well, in my case, i believe that Grass Root Campaign from people here and also discover more tirelessly to bring us hope helps us come home. Without people who rallied for us, they kept our story alive until we came home. People i never knew. The fellow journalists, like you, kept our story alive. But we havent heard much so hopefully this time when talks are going, moving forward to positive direction, hopefully their case be on the table and come home. How long, euna, did it take to you recover from this experience once you came home . Oh, i would say, i guess, a lot of my friends said i acted very strong and then, you know, wanted to just forget about the event as soon as possible after i came home. But to me, seven years, eight years, to really feel comfortable to talk about the event. Unbelievable. Euna lee, i appreciate you joining us this afternoon. Very much appreciate it. Thank you for telling your story. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Up next, Stormy Daniels payout that could legal to problems for the president and lawyer, Michael Cohen. Thats next. When heartburn hits fight back fast with tums chewy bites. Fast relief in every bite. Crunchy outside. Chewy inside. Tum tum tum tum tums chewy bites. Did the president approve the payment that his personal lawyer made to Stormy Daniels . Not that im aware of. But Michael Cohen, attorney in question, has addressed this. The white house addressed, sarah addressed it earlier this week, and i have nothing further to add. Did the president reimburse Michael Cohen, his attorney, after making that payment . Not to my knowledge. Again, Michael Cohen addressed this matter extensively. Thats addressing the controversy over adult film star, Stormy Daniels. The 130,000 payment to daniels, saying that trump used his email address to facilitate that payment. Trump saying he used funds he transferred through his home ec w equity line. Joining us now, sarah, thanks for joining us this afternoon. Lets go with the election law of violation. How do you prove Something Like that . There is circumstantial evidence really strong in this case. Payment transferred by Michael Cohen just within weeks of the election. And so, you know, was it really for to impact the outcome of the election, to prevent trump if being dinged essentially. And i mean, i think, what else was this payment for . Just incredibly incredulous to me that a lawyer would do this. 130,000 from his home line of equity, unbeknownst to his client. We have a duty to keep our client informed at every stage. So to transfer this money over to a porn star is unbelievable to me. What about the fact that cohen used the Trump Organization email in talking about this payment . Is that major problem as well . We all have yahoo and google accounts. Im sure he does too. Where inadvertent or intentional, he used his work email. To the e. Tent xtent he is tryi make a space between is negating that. He is using his official, not just email but digital signature, in the capacity of special counsel to Trump Organization. To communicate throughout the course of negotiations. Using that email. Using it for banking aspect of it and transferring of money. Itll make it harder for him and more incredible that this was a personal thing. Yeah. There are legal challenges if the Trump Organization excuse me, not Trump Organization, trump administration, tries to keep Stormy Daniels quiet. How does it look if they are trying to keep Stormy Daniels quiet . The wall street journal reported this back in 2016. Didnt get traction then. Fits and spurts and just within the last two weeks it is becoming an issue dominating white house briefings. Sarah sanders has to deal with everyday. We just saw this morning. And there are legal concerns kbroeing with issues you just outlined and it is almosting more after political distraction. And more republicans are put on the spot. Like what do you say . And like i dont know anything about it. That defies logic. Broken through and has become a story, story mind one that any other administration would have been just crushed with. This would be 24 7. With this president , because there is so much else going on, he has the ability to spawn headlines on an hourly basis, along with the russia probe, it is a lesser to your story that is finally changing. I dont get it but we may have an answer. I asked voters in pennsylvania about this. Lets listen to that and then we will talk. What trump has done in the past, i dont condone it. But you know, look at bill clinton and somehow we got over that. I would much rather, that never came, why didnt that come about so long ago . Why didnt the star, why is it just now coming out . Why now . Why is it going to stop . . Stop us from being a better country. Dont bring that stuff up. Lets focus on that part, trumps personal life, over to the side and whatever his wife wants to handle, thats what she needs to handle. I dont know if i should go to eddie or the republican strategist on the panel. Right. Lets go to the republican strategist then to you eddie. Yay for me. You know, what the interview that you did, this is spot on. I feel like they are messing with their guy. This is team. They are messing with their guy and they will take up for him. I finally feel what it is like when democratic strategists td take up and maneuver their way around the clinton scandals and the as hillary called it, the bimbo eruptions. Over and over again. Stormy daniels and all actuality and i know im going to get hell on it on twitter. But it is not going to do anything. It is not going to separate trump or the gop from his base. He will still have these solid bases. If they are asked, p what about trump and the porn star and the payment, they dont care. It is not about the fair, it is about the coverup. And the right of america to know that the president in the middle of the elections cover this up. It limits the question, with what else has he made payoffs or . Well we do know this, trump is not a paradigm of virtue. We have four point. One is excessive contributiones. Two might be disclosure violations. Three, we know that the idea that party of family values is now in full blown hypocritical mode. Whatever we say about democrats whatever we say about democrats and what they have to do with bill clinton, democrats never represented themselves as the party of family oou values. What does it mean that when somebody comes after your guy, and shows that injury guy has all of these bones or skeletons in his closet, maybe next to him that somehow the values are kproe compromised and even though Stormy Daniels may be a porn star, she is not a bimbo. She is playing this very, very shart. S smart smart. She is a business person and is playing her trump cards. Do we have the soundbite of saying daniels is now our hero . There is a piece saying she should be our new hero. Thats horrifying. P. Behind the persona of adult film actress and person caught up in president ial scandal, she is a mom, wife, nationally ranked equestrian. This is hard on her family. Media attention they werent accustomed to at this level. And she put it to me has been difficult. That being said, stormy struck me as tough as nails. And told me two things she hates more than anything else is bully answe s and hypocrites. One word answer. Putting you on the spot. One word answer. Two. What part of that . To what he just said. She is capitalizing on this. Good for her in a way. Noelle . Riding lots of things. Riding horses. Okay, there you go. Save me. Eddie. Horrifying. The fact david denson is the alias of the president of the United States in court papers. That is part of the National Conversation that we have to deal with this. Horrifying. Keeping it classy my friends. Thank you so much for joining me. Very much appreciate it. 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First, i think the president does need experienced talented Legal Counsel to help him but this is more strategy than a legal move. Here is why. It may be in the president s interest to be in a protracted negotiation with the mueller team. Serves his base no interest to get it done quickly. If he drags it out trump continues to have add vversary lash out against. His base doesnt care if he testifies or not and he gives mueller a really difficult decision to make. Do i start having to acquiesce to demand or not . Mueller wont allow a deadline to be imposed on him orening the investigation. We could see the mueller team consider things like, partially an inperson interview. Giving advanced topics to the president to consider. Think about the theory where why would you do this quickly if you continue to engage in a protected discussion, lash out at at an adversary, coalesce your base, and lash out at grand jury to make a decision. Why would the grand jury consider Something Like that . Because he has good Legal Counsel . I think because they very much want to get in front of the president. If we continue it see the very public bashing of mueller, where the public sentiment might start to turn, where as trump comes out and says i offered him a video interview. I offered certain topics. Offered to do it under oath. Which by wait is a complete distraction. Doesnt matter if it is under oath or not, you cant lie to fbi and special counsel. Gamesmanship could occur where mueller wants it preserve his reputation and get this none. A lot of back and forth. After taking a, what, weeklong hiatus or so, want to listen to him. He was interviewed by my colleague, alex witt, earlier today. If it was up to me, the president would have fired james comey the day after he was elected during transition. But he has to explain why when he based the logic on the rosenstein memo and the next day he interviewed lester holt saying it the to do with russia. Okay, fine. Maybe then we dont have special counsel. But then he has the russians in the oval office. By the way, who the hell in that white house let that happen . He was so illserved by his staff. Eddie, seems to me like he is selling the president up the river left and right. He is throwing him under the front part of the bus, the back part of the bus and the bus coming after the bus. Last week was really bizarre just watching him break down on television. But what is interesting is he said over and over again, he doesnt believe the president colluded. He doesnt believe there is conspiracy underneath this. But says theres a their their. So we do know this, the Mueller Investigation, even as donald trump as frank suggested, Mueller Investigation will proceed. It is proceeding. It is proceeding on several front at once with several moving pieces that are coming together and i think trump and his associates are scared in their boots. Frank, how often does mueller take into account these various things that we are hearing . Like interviews we hear from sam nunberg, and Stormy Daniels, how much does he include this as the investigation goes forward . And does he expand his investigation . I dont think it expands it in the traditional sense of charges. But he has to consider everything in the totality, particularly when we talk about obstruction, intent and even the past practices of the president. If youre going to show somebody that has the propensity to break the law or have disregard for the lieu, then many of the things we talk about do come into play and do come into play if you ever get in front of the jury and need to show past action and propensity to break the law. Lets listen to the number once again and sarah, i want you to weigh in. If they charge the president , and they are start enough to know this, whatever going after the president , if they believe they have something that is against the president it better be within the scope of that investigations mandate and not the wide breadth of it. It bet are be within the scope of the collusion of russians which i dont believe he did. Why . Why should it be within the scope of what he did with the russians . At this point it does seems like it is branching out, part of the coverup as you said earlier. Right. One of the things that i think is interesting here is this cutoff that the Trump Lawyers are trying to give the mueller team that in exchange for him sitting down and talk together team that investigation has to end. They dont goat do that. They dont get to dictate the scope and parameters of an investigation. They can negotiate terms and scope of the interview with trump to an elf tent but cant tell the guy that within 60 days youve got to end your investigation. This has donald trump written all over it because i think his lawyers know better than that. I hope they do. As far as nunberg, how does he rely on the guy. He puts on a good show and although he is a lawyer and probably could tell from the grand jury where the investigation is head, at least the big picture, at the enof the day he is not the most reliable person. Something trump said last night at rally that should really raise our eyebrows, he said they are trying to undo this. They are trying to undo this. He was saying this in the context of talk about max even waters, congressman waters impeachment but he branched out saying they are trying to undo this. Absolutely. Frank, sarah, netty, thank you all. Well be right back. The news continues right now with my colleague, amman knyman mohyeldin. We will find out the results of a special pennsylvania election thats becoming referendum on the presidency of the donald trump, a fact that president himself reinforced with a wild rally in the district yesterday. Now silencing Stormy Daniels, continued legal efforts to keep a porn star from talking about the relationship she says she has had with donald trump and the alleged hush money she was paid to keep quiet. And a proposed summit involving two of the most unpredictable leaders in the world with potential Nuclear Conflict hanging in the balance. Im sure youre asking what could possibly go wrong when and if President Trump meets with kim jongun. All of that is coming up. But lets begin with that pennsylvania race. Neck and neck in a district of president won by 20 plus points in 2016 and if there was any doubt that this contest is really all about the president , well donald trump himself put those to rest with a performance last night that was for the ages. Vipta vipt vintage trump according to some. Very little mention of the man he had come to support. Watch this. Remember i used to tell you how easy it is to be president ial. But you would all be out of here right now. You would be so board. Maxine waters, very low iq individual. Oh, i would love oprah to win. I would love to beat