An incomplete investigation that was limited, perhaps by the white house. We had many fears that this was a very limited process that would constrain the fbi from getting all the facts. Having received a thorough briefing on documents, those fears have been realized. The public cant see it. Its a complete sham. The investigation was a sham. Theyre not talking to witnesses they should have talked to and theyre trying to block the Senate Access to the report and Public Access to the report. Theres 46 pages of testimony or interviews. No corroboration whatsoever. Im more confident than ever that what the Committee Found is held up and then some. Its time for women to woman up and men to man up and senators and lets start voting. This is the United States of america. Nobody is supposed to be guilty until proven innocent. Ill be proud to vote to advance this nomination tomorrow. Emotions are running high on capitol hill right now as members of the United StatesSenate Review the fbi report on its investigation of allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. These protests live, marching to the Supreme Court. Republicans claim the report finds no evidence of misconduct. Democrats are claiming the report is incomplete and demanding it be made public. But perhaps whats most important here is will it change any votes . Joining me now is msnbcs Garrett Haake live on capitol hill where reaction is coming in fast and furious. Garrett, one week ago, we had our eye mainly on three senators, three republican senators, flake, collins and murkowski. I guess to some degree were still concentrated on those three senators. Weve heard from two of them. Yes, thats right, ali. Weve heard from Susan Collins and jeff flake, both of whom attended a briefing this morning at 10 00 for all republican senators who are interested in being there, to go over what the fbi found, and both collins and flake came out saying that they thought this was a good process. They wouldnt talk about what they had seen specifically. Both of them said they wanted to take a little bit more time with these documents. Before they made any kind of final decision. But both indicated early that they were satisfied at least with the process so far. I can tell you that collins and also lisa murkowski, whos that third key republican senator, have now been back in the secure room where these documents are being kept to review them. Murkowski told one of our producers she wanted to go through this line by line with her own eyes. She didnt even want to go to this briefing because she kididt want her view to be colored by other opinions. Those senators and the democrats were watching all taking their time with this report here but the clock is ticking to the next vote which could happen as early as tomorrow morning. This has been such a frantic two weeks that maybe people dont understand why were paying attention to these two democrat, joe manchin and heidi heitkamp. They were two of three democrats who voted for gorsuch, the first nominee for the Supreme Court, and theyre the only two who have not come out and said definitively they will not vote no on judge kavanaugh. Both have difficult reelections coming up. The theory here is that a vote for kavanaugh could potentially help them in their reelection races. So theyre being watched very closely. But neither one of them is likely, i dont think, ali, to be the 50th vote here. Neither wants to be the vote that puts kavanaugh over the top. If kavanaugh does get the support of those three outstanding republican, you can see a world in which manchin or hide camp or both might say this is already a foregone conclusion, perhaps a vote here might help me politically. Whats going to happen over the next 48 hours . Were going to see senators continue to review this fbi report and add that knowledge to what they already thought on this nominee. Jeff flake, for example, remember, was a yes on kavanaugh. He had announced it last friday morning, before asking for this additional fbi investigation. Hes probably once again the person who were most likely to hear from first. Given that we already knew he was inclined to support judge kavanaugh. Now were looking at this clock on when technically, it has to be at least an hour whenever the Senate Starts working tomorrow so that could be as early as 1 00 in the morning friday if they kept the senate in overnight or it could be first things first on friday. Thats the procedural vote. Its a test vote essentially. But its really one to watch. Its hard to imagine senators would say yes, were comfortable with this but were going to change our minds again in 24 hours. Youre looking at some combination of vote on friday and then a final vote on saturday. Well be in touch over the next 24 to 48 hours. I want to dig deeper into this investigation the fbi conducted. Its a 46page fbi report. It landed at the white house. Under the cover of darkness early this morning. It was then passed to the senate and then off to a skip, a secure room, where the senators can review document. Now, the report is the result of the fbi supplemental background investigation. It only lasted five days. Now, sources tell nbc news that agents interviewed nine people in total, including mark judge, you see here, leyland keyser, p. J. Smyth, deborah ramirez, tatim gaudette and garrett. According to reports, it also does not include the accuser or a number of others who suggested personally or who have suggested they could have been valuable character witnesses such as james roche. He was kavanaughs roommate during his freshman year at yale. He revealed some of his memories about kavanaughs behavior and his drinking habits, listen. My recollection of my experience with him was that he was drunk frequently. I would say with some confident it was at least once, maybe twice on the weekends. It may have even been during the week. You say also that he, im quoting you, became aggressive and belligerent when he was very drunk. When i say belligerent, i mean belligerent in demeanor. Im speaking more in carriage than an expression. I did call friends i knew who knew both of us and spent time with brett both freshman year and then after and i did hear stories about times when he was physically violent. Destructive. Those are not on the record, not my stories to tell, but they made me feel like my memories were accurate. Did you ever see him black out . You know, i didnt socialize with brett. But being in the same room where he slept, i saw him when he arrived at home regularly. And i saw him in the morning. And i can tell you that he would come home and he was incoherent, stumbling. He would sometimes be singing. He occasionally would wear this i think it was an old leather football helmet. And he would throw up. And then in the morning, would have a lot of trouble getting out of bed. So yes, i saw him both, what i would consider blackout drunk and also dealing with the repercussions of that in the morning. Reports are saying the fbi did not interview anyone who lived in yales Lawrence Hall and did not interview two of kavanaughs High School Acquaintances who submitted sworn declarations to senators and the fbi. Nor does it appear they interviewed more than 20 sources provided by dr. Fords legal team or ramirezs legal team. Overall, thats 40plus potential corroborators or character witnesses who were not interviewed by the fbi. Joining me now is chris swecker, a former assistant director of the fbi. Chris, look, i think Everybody Knows this news now, that there were a lot of people who were not interviewed. I think not everybody understands that there had to be some restriction on the fib because the fbi could have easily interviewed 40 more people, im told by former fbi special agents, they could have interviewed 400 people in a week. Absolutely. In this background check followup theyre called special inquiries. President ial nominees are subjected to a special inquiry, not an investigation. Theres a very big difference there. And theres a theres a scope that includes interviews and record checks. Now, when theres derogatory information developed during the course some time during the course of the nomination or the course of the nomination process, theyll follow up on that on the request of the originator which is the white house. They did that here. Looks to me like they focused strictly on the Sexual Assault allegations primarily on the part of dr. Ford. And the second complaint that came in or allegation that came in, not the third. So they stuck to those two allegations. They didnt go far afield on how much he drank, you know, whether he stumbleld when he drank or whether he threw some ice. They just didnt go in that direction. They lasered directly in on the sexual the allegations of Sexual Assault. You know, we wont we may not see this investigation at any point but republicans who have seen it have said theyve said it shows no new evidence, no corroborating efei evidence for Christine Blasey fords allegations. From what you know, which i suppose is similar to what i know, what do you think about this investigation or this background check . I think it was where it needed to be in terms of the derogatory information that came up needed to be looked at. There needed to be followup interviews. That information needed to be provided to the president and senate. I can understand completely why they didnt go off another direction about Drinking Alcohol and parties and that sort of thing, unless it directly related to Sexual Assault allegations. Thats very normal. The fbis conducted thousands of these spins. And thats the way theyre conducted. This is an unusual one, granted. But theyre focusing in on a specific derogatory information involving Sexual Assault allegations. Chris, good to see you, chris sw swicker, former assistant director of the fbi. Next, a new report from bloomberg on how chinese spie s used a tiny chip to steal information from dozens of u. S. Companies. Plus, were watching the markets. The markets are up by more than a percent today. Ill tell you why when we come back. E come back what do you have there . P3 its meat, cheese and nuts. I keep my protein interesting. Oh yea, me too. I have cheese and uh these herbs. P3 snacks. The more interesting way to get your protein. Welcome back to velshi ruehl. Washington, d. C. , a very large protest under way, people marching towards the Supreme Court, protesting what may be the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh as an Association Justice of the Supreme Court. The first vote is scheduled for some time on friday. With a second vote scheduled for possibly as early as sunday. Were going to stay on that story and well bring you updates as they occur. A shocking new report reveals how china used a tiny chip about the size of a grain of rice to infill trait u. S. Tech giants. And threatening National Security on several fronts. Acording to Bloomberg Business week, chinese spies attacked almost 30 u. S. Companies, including amazon and apple, by planting the chip in hardware that is made in china and bound for the United States. This is a complicated and frightening story. Joining me is one of the reporters who broke the story, Michael Riley of bloomberg news. Michael, good to talk to you. Tell me about how on the one hand, i dont know how they wouldnt have been able to do this, because we send we make a whole lot of stuff that goes into our electronics in china. But tell me how this succeeded. Thats right, i mean, so the u. S. Government and other people have been warning about supply chain attacks like this for years but there are very few reallife examples of this. Effectively one of the concerns is that because of offshoring, most of the guts of our technology is now made in china and that if china ever let its spies interfere with that manufacturing process, the world would be face ago big threat. Well, this is an example of the fact that shows that they, in fact, are letting that happen. Effectively what they did is it was a brilliant a tacttack. They took an american company, which although many people havent heard of, makes server motherboards for 900 different companies. Its such an important player in this market that its the u. S. Military, its the cias drone program, its the missile, army missile facility, its apple, its amazon, its major banks. And by sort of basically manipulating the manufacturing they can effectively use just one venue. Saying chinas goal was longterm access to highvalue corporate secrets. No consumer data is known to have been stolen. What do we know about whether or not this was successful . So theyve discovered theres this chip on a whole bunch of things that wasnt supposed to have it but do we know if information was actually stolen . We tonight know a lot about what was taken. The goal of the attack its worth saying that the u. S. Government does these types of attacks in a slightly different way. The goal is to actually get a longterm presence in a network. A server like this can sit in a network from three to five years. You can sit there and watch and wait. But its also its really easy if they land in a place where they want to get data to grab it and leave without anybody noticing. Because these attacks were so hard to get. So effectively what we wanted to do was portray how this attack works and the pla basically had invisible doors into these networks. But the companies themselves may not know if anything was taken. One of the things also talked about in the report, this may be more important for future things, the ramifications of the attack continue to play out. The Trump Administration has made computer and networking hardware, including mother boards, a focus of its latest round of trade sanctions against china. White house officials have made it clear they think companies will begin shifting their supply chains to other countries as a result. Is that true . By the way, how do we make sure this doesnt happen anywhere you ship your supply chain to . Thats right, it can happen in other place, but the idea of china and its sort of grip on Technology Manufacturing in the world is kind of bubbling beneath the surface of trumps trade war. You can see that in the latest rounds of 200 billion worth of tariffs. There was a really large focus on routers, mother boards, networking equipment, these kinds of things that can be easily manipulated as they move into the rest of the world. I dont know if was a coincidence but i very much doubt it. As a result, think what the Trump Administration may be trying to do or at least one of the things that may happen afterwards is youll get some of these supply chains moved out of china. Chinas not going to be very happy about that, but that seems to be one of the focus of the tariffs. What a remarkably interesting and frightening story. Michael, thank you very much. Michael riley with bloomberg. Lets take a look at those pictures again. This is the protest thats under way in washington. Protesters, you can see some being arrested right there. These are protesters on their way to the Supreme Court. Opposed to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh. Were going to look at what this means for the integrity of the process and the Supreme Court and future cases that are going to go before the panel of judges. But first, the new cover of Time Magazine shows christine ford. Shown at the moment she swore an oath and is drawn in words from her haunting testimony. The story is called her lasting impact. Youre watching velshi and ruehl on msnbc. On msnbc onemillionth order. On msnbc millionth order. There goes our first big order. 44, 45, 46. How many of these did they order . Ooh, thats hot. You know, we could sell these. Nah. We dont bake. Opportunity. What we deliver by delivering. Here are our live pictures from washington, d. C. Protesters are continuing against the nomination of judge kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Just listen in for a second. Trying to get a sense of where the pictures are. Well keep an eye on how that protest goes. Republican leaders are pressing for that confirmation voets to happen this weekend. Kavanaughs testimony is raising new questions about how he would be able to serve effectively on the Supreme Court. This whole twoweek effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit, fuelled with apparent pentup anger about President Trump and the 2016 election. Fear that has been unnearly stoked about my judicial record. Revenge on behalf of the clintons. And millions of dollars in money from outside left wing opposition groups. This is a circus. The consequences will extend long past my nomination. The consequences will be with us for decades. This grotesque and coordinated character assassination will dissuade competent and good people of all political persuasions from serving our country. And as we all know, in the United States political system of the early 2000s, what goes around comes around. All right, joining me now from outside the department of justice is pete williams. Here in studio with me, nico lus christoph, column nus for the new york times. Pete, in a speech weve heard parts of from Brett Kavanaugh, he talked about, you know, what happens at Georgetown Prep stays at Georgetown Prep, and thats the part that most people heard. He talks about being a Supreme Court justice or being a judge as an umpire, leaving your politicians at the door so youre able to be a fair arbiter of all things that come before you. In those comments that we just played there are many people who say Brett Kavanaugh wasnt behaving like somebody who would be that umpire. Thats the question here. The rules for recusal of Supreme Court justices are different than they are for the Lower Court Judges for the simple reason if youre a trial judge somewhere in america and you have a conflict, they can find another trial judge to take your place. Same with the courts of appeal. There are no spare Supreme Court justices. So any time a justice recuses that leaves the court at a dean minutishes capacity. Its usually up to the justices themselves to decide whether to recuse. And they usually recuse for direct conflicts of interest. They have a family member. They were a judge that on the lower court when a case was decided. They worked on the issue when they were at the justice department. Or they have some personal financial stake. They own stock in the company, that kind of thing. Those are the usual reasons for recusal. Recusals on political grounds are really exceptional. Remember, Ruth Bader Ginsburg made some very harsh comments about President Trump, saying she might move out of the country if he got elected that kind of thing. She later apologized. There were some suggestions that maybe shed have to recuse from cases about the Trump Administration. So i think those questions would hang over judge kavanaugh. But whether he would actually recuse on political grounds if hes confirmed, i doubt it. That would be up to him, its not up to somebody else in. Correct. All right. Nicholas there are several issues. About a week ago there were people concerned about the abruptness of judge kavanaugh. But now there are lots of people who dont think it has solved anything. A week ago, or last friday, we were talking about how jeff flake may have paused the fact that there was going to be a cloud over the Senate Judiciary committee and ultimately over the Supreme Court. An institution that so Many Americans are hoping to rely on in politically turbulent times. Now we go forward with this nomination. Does this have a does this put a cloud over the Supreme Court . I think it does. I mean, the hope of the fbi investigation was we might dispel the cloud one way or the other. I think this is going to impair him. I think its going to impair the legitimacy of the court. At this point, it looks as if a third of the men on the Supreme Court will have had credible allegations of Sexual Harassment or assault against them. That undermines the aura we have about the court. And so does his anger. I mean, the stage craft of our judiciary, the methodology we have, is its supposed to be above the fray. We have had politicians obviously. Earl warren, former california governor, was a great Supreme Court chief justice. But he wasnt angry like this. While Clarence Thomas was angry, but he wasnt partisan in the same way. So now we have a judge who looks as if he may well be headed to the Supreme Court who brings a degree of anger, hes essentially a politico for much of his career, and of partisanship. I think that is unfortunate for the judiciary in the u. S. Pete, lets just address that for a second. As you have mentioned, Clarence Thomass politics are very, very conservative by comparison to others on the Supreme Court. But for some reason, despite the allegations against him, which were investigated before he was confirmed to the Supreme Court, against the better judgment of many people, it is not felt politicized since then. How is this different . Well, i think its different for a couple of reasons simply because were in the year 2018. Its very different now than it was then in terms of taking these accusations seriously. And its the its i guess the fact that in thomas case, they basically came from one person, from anita hill. And in Brett Kavanaughs case, you have a number of people raising questions. Just a lot more willingness to engage on these issues. I think those are the those are the things that make it so different. Nicholas, what can the Supreme Court i mean, obviously the others on the Supreme Court and people who believe in this institution are worried about reputational damage. What do americans need to see to feel either secure or, frankly what other options do they have in this guy is quite possibly going to be on the Supreme Court by the end of the weekend. Thats right. John reports s roberts is cons. I think he would welcome kavanaughs conservative ideology. The chief justice also cares deeply about the image of the court and i think he will be troubled. One other thing we have to wonder about is there is some real possibility look, after the Clarence Thomas allegations, id say the subsequent reporting has largely sustained those allegations. It makes it seem quite likely indeed those allegations by anita hill were correct. If in a similar way more people come forward against kavanaugh and tend to confirm those allegations, that will further undermine not just him but the entire court. I think thats a real possibility. Hay, pete. I know you made the point that judges dont tend to recuse themselves on the Supreme Court for lots of reasons, particularly when it comes to political ideology. Does the fact in his testimony Brent Kavanaugh spoke of democrats, spoke of the clintons, spoke of left wing groups . Theyre going to be left wing groups that bring cases to the Supreme Court. Do they have any standing to say i dont think this guy can listen to my case . Well, if they can bring their case successfully before the standing is a question about whether theyre allowed through the courthouse door to bring their case. Then they have to make a tactical decision about whether they want to seek recusal. They can. It sometimes does happen. You can say, you know, youre just too biased to hear this case. I guess the contrary argument would be was that he was attacking the process of his confirmation. Not, to use your term, left wing. Not a leftwing policy argument or the kind of administrative question that might come before the Supreme Court. Now, that may be too much of a legal nicety and the claims here you know, the cannons of judicial say that judges should have no conflict and no appearance of a conflict and thats where the difficult question comes in. Hes the one who said that himself, and hes the one in the speech who said a judge has to have an appearance db tosh an umpire, has to have the appearance of leaving his politicians at the door. He both raised the expectation and then shattered it. I think theres also other larger questions. We obviously expect court to have integrity. And at least im deeply troubled by what you might call these small lies that i think its almost inarguable that kavanaugh told about renauti alumni. Obviously, that wasnt just a matter of affection and Everybody Knows that. So i think that undermines the integrity of the court. I guess id also say at some level if you look at the historic mistakes, the Supreme Court has made over the last century, they havent been because of lack of brilliance or a lack of judicial reasoning. Theyve been because of a lack of empathy. Its been dred scott. Its in pleasy versus ferguson. Its been some of the cases about womens rights, about gays. And watching judge kavanaugh there, i think one had to question whether in this kind of case coming forward whether he would be able to have that kind of empathy that would contribute to a forwardlooking ruling organize one that is ultimately an embarrassment for this country. Nicholas kristof, pete williams, thank you. Up next, our guest talks about his new book accessory to war. Lets take another look at the dow. It is deteriorating. Now off more than 1. 25 . This is because of rising Interest Rates. Its in part because of a strengthening economy. But with Interest Rates rising, it means the stock markets not the only game in town. Hey, welcome back to velshi and ruehl. We have been focused on the kavanaugh process but a lot has been happening in the Trump Administration. A Child Migrant camp that was supposed to shut down weeks ago is expanding to house more unaccompanied children. The guardian has reported the camp is located in the border town of torneo, texas and originally had a capacity of 400 but now grown to 2,400 beds and set to remain open until the end of the year. A federal judge has temporarily stopped the Trump Administrations move to end protections for immigrants from four countries to live and work legally in the United States. About 300,000 people from sudan, nicaragua, haiti and el salvador received those protections. The judge cites the president s alleged descriptions of african and caribbean nations as, quote, shole countries, in the lawsuit. Investigating whether a schools transgender bathroom policy led to the alleged Sexual Assault of a 5yearold girl. The investigation opened last month as politico reported that the secretary of education had halted at least five cases involving transgender students who were denied bathroom access. And the violence against women act temporarily extended but is still at risk of expiring. The law funds social Service Agencies that help victims of domestic assault. A number of changes have been under way at the epa. The agency is planning to eliminate the science Advisers Office under its office of research and development. A role meant to advise the administrator and to ensure that the best science is used to inform environmental policies. Youd think that was important, right . Thats not all. The Trump Administration is also moving to weaken u. S. Standards for radiation exposure. The epas proposal would increase exposure to medical, oil and gas workers. Joining me now is the astrophysicist and author of accessory to war. Neil degrass tyson. Lots happening at the epa. By the way, the universe is fine. Its earth thats the problem. Just make that clear. I just want to sort of get your impression of the relationship between government and good science and good policy. Well, so i, as a scientist, and my colleagues, we conduct science. Generally unmonitored by a government agency. With just the effects of our creativity and where we want to take our curiosity. It tends to be that the biggest funded science is what comes out of a government. And this can move the center of mass of a field in ways that individual workers because governments can sometimes do things that arent profitable or make better correct, they have deeper pockets so they have geopolitical reasons. We went to the moon not for science but we got some science done on the way, piggy backed it. So it becomes an issue for the future of the nation if a government doesnt understand what science is or how and why it works. It means that nation will not participate on the leading frontier of how science and technology will transform civilization. Other countries will. By the way, we were at that frontier for most of the second half of the 20th century. Its the era that i grew up in. You would have had some years in there noticing it. So thats the america that i knew and loved. No one was debating the objective truths of science. People said put more science in, more engineering. Thats going to shape our future. You see this now, so let it slide. Its interesting, because your book does talk about how scientists and the military have worked together. Yes, and thats been well known for the traditional science fields like physics and chemistry. In my field, you wouldnt think we had anything to do with it. Except we did. You go far enough back, navigation was a fundamental activity of empire building. But how do you know where you are on earth . You get that from the sky. Because we knew what stars you would see and planets at different parts of the earth. You would infer where you were on earth from that and thats how you knew wheres your enemy, wheres the new land youre acquiring. Right. This is how empires were built. And fast forward that to today. Coordinates on earth still matter. Right. The air force, the u. S. Space command of air force put up gps satellites. In the second gulf war was a Precision Targeting war. Right, we saw images where youd bomb something right down the chimney. All of this was enabled, empowered, by space assets that had been put up. So we have common concerns. The astrophysicists worried about and thinks about the universe. So does the military. As the next regime of high ground. You say the universe is okay. Earth has some problems. Representatives from more than 130 countries are meeting in south korea to discuss climate change. There are many who think thats the most dangerous piece of the u. S. Becoming divorced from science. Its destabilizing. So a couple things. First, i dont mind people arguing on political lines what you do about climate change. Right. Okay. Do you put in carbon credits or tariffs on solar panels . Do you invest in your economy to transition . Those have political solutions. But when i see politicians arguing over the objectively identified truths of science, that you are just going to lag behind the rest of the world. Youre lagging behind two very important elements of modern life. Insurance Companies Know all about Global Warming and what its consequences. So too does the military. If you have rising tide waters that rising storm waters that didnt used to get to those levels and you displace whole populations, they become migrants. Excuse me, they become yes, refugees. They become refugees, destabilizing the region. The military knows all about this. You can have political posturing where youre ignoring it because you get votes for it. But at the end of the day, you cannot fool mother nature. I thought your tweet response to the Trump Administration, tossing around the idea of a space force, was pretty remarkable. You said that perhaps we should be thinking about im soak with the space force but what we need is a truth force, one that defends against all enemies of accurate information, both foreign and domestic. Just trying to put that out there. We have something such as that, the National Academy of sciences. They were chartered by Abraham Lincoln in 1863. Clearly he had other things on his place at the time but he said we need science to help us. The future go vvance gov govern this nation. Thank you so much. The new book is accessory to war. In washington, d. C. , protesters reached the Supreme Court. Lets take a look at some live pictures as they stand against the potential confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh. Republicans are also getting fired up. Gop aides say the battle over the kavanaugh nomination is reenergizing the party just in time for the midterms. But can it last long enough to bring republicans out to the polls . Well discuss that next. First, were counting down to the Midterm Elections now just 33 days away. If these packs have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think bigger is better. Actually, its bulkier. Always discreet doesnt need all that bulk to protect. Because its made differently. The super absorbent core quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection thats a lot less bulky. Looks like good things really do come in small packages. Always discreet. For bladder leaks. C crawl inside, wait by the light of the moon. Applebees to go. Add a fountain drink to your next order for just 99 cents. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Lets watch these live pictures on the left. These are protesters at the Supreme Court. Were 33 days from Midterm Elections and the Republican Party is getting a last minute surge in voter enthusiasm thanks to the ongoing battle to Brett Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court. Key leaders are making polarizing comments that are stirring their base at this critical time. I had one beer, right. I had one beer. Well, you think no it was one beer. How did you get home . I dont remember. How did you get there . I dont remember. Where is the place . I dont remember. How many weeyears ago was it . I dont know. I dont know. What neighborhood was it in . I dont know. Wheres the house . I dont know. Upstairs, downstairs, where was it . I dont know, but i had one beer. Thats the only thing i remember. If you wanted a fbi investigation, you could have come to us. What you want to do is destroy this guys life. Hold this seat open and hope you win in 2020. Youve said that, not me. Youve got nothing to apologize for. When you see sotomayer and kagen because i voted to them. I would never do to them what youve done to this guy. This is the most unethical sham since ive been in politics. This whole two week effort has been a calculated and orchestrated political hit fueled with apparent pent up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election. Fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record. Revenge on behalf of the clintons and millions of dollars and money from outside left wing opposition groups. This is a circus. Joining me now is Washington Post reporter amber phillips. Thanks for joining us. According to a new marist poll. The democrats had a large advantage in terms of enthusiasm and thats disappeared. Its about a two point spread who said its very important. It was a 12point spread. Something is firing the republicans up. Is it the Midterm Election or is is it this . Democrat enthusiasm factor has basically evaporated from july to october. What caused that . Were not sure. The reason i say this is republicans tend to vote in higher numbers in Midterm Elections. Democrats tend to stay home. Is this a Natural Evolution as we get closer to the election of republicans say this is what i do. I go and vote in Midterm Elections or did kavanaugh jolt these republicans to Pay Attention or is it a mix of both . Polls dont give the answer to that question. A lot of republicans think democrats will come out. That does enthuse people to go out. People get less enthusiastic if they think their side will win. Look at the polling in north dakota in the senate race. Hei hei Heidi Hetkamp is trailing by 12 points. We saw news they raised 4 million many the last quarter which is a north dakota report. What are we looking for . What you talk about enthusiasm, i think everybody looks back in 2016 and says i dont know what polls mean. How do you judge untheenthusias these sorts of things . Its tough. Is someone going to go out and vote and saying i like this republican challenger. Its tough to judge that. We can set back and look at a trend across the nation which is what i think youre doing right now. Not just in north dakota but were seeing polls in montana, in miley cyrssouri. In a lot of places are republicans are trying to unseat democrats that have sudden like that npr poll flipped in favor of republicans over the past couple of weeks. In addition to that, for evidence this might be kavanaugh related, republicans shared with me today ads they are pushing in these states tieing the democratic candidate to kavanaughs potential failure to get to Supreme Court. Well have to continue to watch where this goes. Thank you. I want to take another look another the dow. Little lower. This is on Interest Rates that have spiked a little quickly than expected. We were expecting them to spike any way and this happened quickly. D quickly. All right. Thats it for this hour. Ill see you back here in a colleague. Im going to hand it over. One half of the fantastic durks duo. Thank you. Senate republicans are taking a victory lap. The supplement fbi investigation into Brett Kavanaugh is done. Though the bureau was given a week, the probe only took five days. In a statement judiciary chairman Chuck Grassley wrote theres nothing in the report that we didnt already know. His colleagues seem to agree. When the noise fades and the uncorroborated mud washes away, whats left is the distinguished nominee who stands before us. No cooperation what so ever. Even the people that theyve alluded to to corroborate their stories deny. They corroborated judge kavanaughs reiteration of the facts. No corroboration. Nothing new. In theres no corroboration. Senators who requested the supplement fbi background check got what they requested. I am ready to vote. Regardless. The only report needs to convince three of the five undecided