Resort town of cambrils. The shots heard streets away as officers open fire killing the suspects. It happened just hours after a van mowed down tourists in central barcelona. The terrorist driving a rented white van turned this normally vibrant area into a kill zone. They are shooting. The van traveled 600 yards and wasnt just driving but zigzagging back and forth chasing down victims. There was another incident on wednesday now being linked to all of this. It was an explosion that leveled a home. Theres still an active there. Spanish police now investigating what increasingly looks like a terror network. President trump was quick to respond to the attack in barcelona. Offering the u. S. support. But the president may have muddled his own message, r resurrecting a story about the American General who fought in the philippines a century ago. Study what general pershing did to terrorists when caught. There was no more radical islamic terror for 35 years. Historians say there is no evidence that what trump is referencing actually occurred. Its not true. Its not true at all. Its so not true politifact gave it a pants on fire rating. And were following breaking news right now if finland. Authorities say several people have been wounded in a stabbing in the city of turku in the western part of the country. The suspected attacker has been shot but police are on hunt for other possible suspects. Police are expected to hold a News Conference in a little while. Well stay on top of that with you, ali was following yesterdays attacks and continues to happening in spain joins me with london with news on the new attack. Whats going on . Firstly, i have to stress we dont know if this is a terrorist attack or crime of some other nature, the fin Anybody Police havent said if they are treating this as a terrorist attack or crime. This is what theyve told us so far. Several people were stabbed in the finnish city of turku, they shot a man in the leg after he was suspected of stabbing several people in the western city. Theyve told people on twitter account to stay away from the city center. Police said they are looking for potentially more suspects in that stabbing and that theres an ongoing operation in central turku. Finnish police reinforced helsinki airport and other places in that vicinity. Thats what we know for sure. Weve got video as well from a building above that incident where you can hear people running in the street. Its obviously a scene of some sort of panic. Were not sure exactly who the people are running, if they are just civilians on the scene or if they are attackers, but again, a scene of panic. Now this is what were hearing from finnish media, we cant confirm this. They are saying that i have seen several people lying on the ground in the central part of the city. One newspaper there reporting that one person was killed in the attack and another newspaper saying six people were injured, one man and five women and that one woman with a stroller was attacked by a man with a large knife. And another eyewitness at the scene saying there were people lying on the ground and one body had been covered up in downtown turku. The nordic country has not witnessed many terrorist attacks or other attacks. As have european other european countries, but in recent months and years, theyve become increasingly worried about attacks on their own soil after seeing attacks in neighboring sweden and russia. Theyve also taken a much harder line on immigration. But again, we dont know if any of that is related to todays incident. Were monitoring the situation. There is a Police Press Conference as you mentioned expected imminently if we get any updates on that about who the perpetrator or perpetrators were, we will update you immediately. Turku is in southwestern finland so its west of helsinki, its across the baltic sea from stockholm so its relatively isolated when it comes to terror attacks weve been thinking about. Youll stay on top of this and if you get more information on this theres a map of where turkuscandinavia. If you get any more information, let us know and well bring you right back. Covering a lot. Lets get to the developments in spain where a major manhunt and antiterror operation is under way. The state department confirming one american was killed and another injured. No details are being released on who they are just yet. Theres been a lot of chaos surrounding the story. Lets start with the very latest on how it unfolded. It appears there have been three incidents, ill ask my control room to kill the music. It appears there are three incidents, wednesday in the town and huge blast in a home being use as a bomb making factory and attackers had to mobilize. And that brings us to yesterday in barcelona. 120 miles away. See the distance where a speeding van rammed into a crowd of people at the popular las ramblas promenade. The van reportedly jumped the curb and accelerated traveling more than 600 yards, zigzagging as it drove. Video from the scene shows people running and screaming past the dead and injured. The walkway was packed with merchants, with tourists and pedestrians, it was 6 00 in the evening. 13 people were killed, more than 100 were hurt. The vans driver is still on the run. Now eight hours later, another attack, 80 miles south in the seaside town of cambrils. Police say a car driven by five people wearing fake suicide bomb vests plowed into a group of tourists near a boardwalk killing a woman. Authorities say they shot the five attackers dead at the scene. So all tolled in spain, 14 people, not including the suspects were killed in the attacks. More than 100 have been wounded and Authorities Say victims were of 34 different nationalities. As for the suspected terrorists, five are dead, four are in custody throughout the region. This morning, President Trump tweeted this. Homeland security and Law Enforcement are on alert and closely watching for any sign of trouble. Our borders are far tougher than before. Weve got several reporters on the ground covering all of the angles. Kristen dahlgren is in barcelona. A lot of people around you and behind you, whats the mood in barcelona right now . Reporter hi there, ali, this is exactly where that happened yesterday. And there are a lot of people out here today, many of them coming to really pay respects and to send a message. There was a moment of silence earlier today and then they began clapping and chant gs i am not afraid. That really is the message that the people weve been talking to here want to get out there. They are going to continue to come out here. There are memorials scattered here along this promenade, almost as if where the victims fell yesterday. As you walk down you see many, many different areas with candles were looking kristen at live pictures of it as you talk, go ahead. Weve got a live picture of that from the air. Reporter right. So there are these tributes along the way and very emotional people coming out here and they are doing etchings on the sidewalk where people fell and writing messages and those messages are coming from all over the world. This is one of the most popular tourist destinations in barcelona so you can imagine it yesterday probably just as packed as it is now, when that van came through. I spoke with somebody who saw it come past a shop where he was working and he said it was upwards of 50 miles an hour just swerving through hitting these kiosks and then of course hitting many, many people as it went down. So you know, a somber crowd here today. But a very determined crowd to continue to come out and enjoy this beautiful place in barcelona. Thanks very much for your coverage of this, Kristen Dahlgren in barcelona. Lets bring in malcolm nance. You were with me when we first got news of this yesterday and we talked about it yesterday afternoon. Its always very difficult in the initial stages because youre trying to determine whether it was an attack inspired by or directed by a terrorist group. Does seem now that this was much more detailed and planned than our initial evaluation was and thats because when we hear about these cars going into crowds or vans going into crowds, it seems like a low tech attack. Were learning Different Things about it now. Youre absolutely right. Were learning that there may have been three components to this attack and that due to a failure, which the night before the attack on la rambla, there was a building which blew up in a small town south of barcelona, which may as the Spanish Police believe now have been the bomb factory where the tourists were assembling a propane style bomb. It was believed to have been a gas explosion. Now they believe it was the bomb factory. They were going to get a larger truck according to reporting coming out of spain and going to use it as a run over pedestrians and blow up it appears that last night where a second vehicle and five terrorists who were probably under the surveillance of police, went on to do an attack in another small town south of barcelona and gunned down by police while carrying out a knife attack. So this shows a more complex nature of the attack. It shows there was a cell, not an individual but a team of individuals who were planning and preparing for what could have been a much bigger attack. Lets move quickly to the situation in finland. I believe youve every time sadly you know it very well. Youve been to turku in finland. I havent been there but the only reason i know it because ive been to stockholm and theres a ferry right across. Western finland to the town of turku and you can go there to helsinki by that way. Theres actually a large Muslim Population and immigrant population in finland. But there has never been any trouble in that part. All Baltic States of norway and sweden. Now were seeing this knife attack. It remains to be seen whether it was inspired by the attack that went on in spain and somebody decided to carry out what we call an individual weapons attack or a person an emotionally disturbed person. Thank you very much for joining us. President trump is attacking democrats claiming they are the reason its so hard to put security measures in place in america. The obstructionist democrats make security for our country very difficult. They use the courts and associated delay at all time. Many stop. He then added radical islamic terrorism must be stopped by whatever means necessary. The courts must give us back our protective rights, have to be tough. Shortly after the news broke of yesterdays attack in barcelona, the president tweeted support for the people there telling them to be tough and strong and we love you, perfectly good tweet. Then followed up with this, study with general pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more radical islamic terror for 35 years. Its the same story he mentioned during the campaign. Early in the century, last century, general pershing, did you ever hear, rough guy. They had a terrorism problem. He took 50 bullets and he dipped them in pigs blood and he lined up the 50 people and they shot 49 of those people and the 50th person he said you go back to your people and you tell them what happened. And for 25 years there wasnt a problem. Lets put aside the extra ten years he added in the tweet for facts sake. Is president Donald Trumps claim true . No. Its a lie. As you heard from the president , the contention is that while general john blackjack pershing was a military governor in the philippines during the early 1900s. He supposedly used bullets dipped in pigs blood or hard to execute fighters, the idea being pork is forbidden in islam so it would passcy fi them through terror. But the president is simply not true. One historian who literally wrote the book on the time period said it is a made up story. So how do we know that . Well, pershing arrived in the philippines in 1899. According to historians he studied the koran and fought specific tribes but reportedly left others alone. Hes also reported to have allowed enemy forces to escape. Now, there were stories of fighters being buried in pigskin in the campaign against muslim philippine knows but it is credited to other officers. Historians say pershing may have sprinkled fighters with pigs blood, a far cry from execution and cite a well documented incident where a marine unit killed 11 of the porters os s od if pershing had ordered, more evidence than chain emails. Its been debunked by a dozen Fact Checkers from new york to the philippines. Bottom line, it didnt happen. His party, his military and American Business leaders are standing up to him. Well break down his worst week yet. Major magazines are calling out the president on the latest covers, the economist, President Trump shouting into a mega phone thats a kkk hood. The new yorker has him in a boat blowing on a sail. 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Networking Company Cloud flair that performs performance and Security Services for companies joined go daddy and google in dumping the daily stormer. The ceo explaining that the daily stormer site was bragging about how cloud flair was onere them. This was the Tipping Point for me. Cloud flare ceo and cofounder matthew prince joins me now. To a lot of people they would think disassociating from a neonazi and white supremacist and kkk groups is a very obvious thing but where you sit on west coast, theres a its a slightly more layered conversation. Whats the issue . I think the issue is what the role of various Technology Companies add various points in the internet stack have in actually regulating content. Most of the people who are watching the show have never heard of cloud flare before and yet almost everyone on the internet uses us hundreds of times a day. We see 10 of all internet requests. I think theres a concern where when an Infrastructure Company is making what are effectively editorial decisions about what content should or should not be online, obviously, for us, and for me personally, the daily stormers content was repugnant and vile. But i still think its a really complicated question when your infrastructure is saying im going to impose my morals on what content can literally be online. I guess analogies that people use when it comes to infrastructure is, we still provide electricity to homes or businesses for people who do things that we dont agree with and we still provide water and those types of services. Those are the infrastructure questions. What happens when it mofsz into Technology Companies that in some way or other are involved in content, in cure ating, in making decisions about hate versus not hate. Yeah, i think its a complicated question and can be complicated within organizations, take google, for instance, which operates at a number of different levels. They run a Registrar Service which banned the daily stormer from using it on monday. They also run a isp google fiber, they run a dns service that is sort of like the phone book for the internet. They run a Search Engine and run one of the biggest browsers in the world. Those other organizations and institutions didnt actually kick the daily stormer off. They didnt block it across their isp or send out a release to chrome that said you cant visit this site. They could have done those things. Im not saying they made a mistake in not doing those thengz but i think the question is pretty nuanced. Where is it appropriate for content ton regulated . That was one of the things we think is an important conversation to be had and the conversation we tried to stoke as we were making this decision. Lets talk about the decision that you actually made. Was this prompted by the fact that the daily stormer is a neonazi site on the fact they claim you by not booting them off were supporting them. It was a series of events. Starting about three months ago we got reports when people would complain about abusive content on the daily stormer and send those reports to them and to their host, that the daily stormers team would actually the report said they would harass, stalk or otherwise make the lives difficult of the people reporting that abuse. That is just jerk behavior, which shouldnt be tolerated and so at that point we effectively put the daily stormer on probation. A series of events since then, which culminated in them saying cloud flare supports neonazis, which is absolutely not true, was what ultimately made us decide to determiterminate them. I have to say while it was action that was outside of that, obviously the fact that the content was vile and something that we as a company dont believe in had to play a factor in that. I think that that is risky and dangerous and im acknowledging that as a company that can make that decision that we need to be very careful and need to be very transparent about how those decisions are getting made. You have said and many people have said there should be a big conversation. I know some of it is already going on about how technology should respond to content. You know, the fake news issue is a big issue but now hate speech is the one in the forefront. And i think a lot of people in your position are not objecting to the idea that there should be some regulation. The issue is who regulates. I think thats right. And i dont pretend to know exactly what the answer is. Obviously for illegal content, that case is easy. I think that where i start to have a concern is when companies are making what are effectively editorial decisions and you dont see them, then that becomes much harder to justify. A lot of this conversation has been around free speech and im the son of a journalist, i believe deeply in the ideas and principles of free speech. But those arent universally shared globally in the 70 plus countries where we as a company have to operate. I think what is a much more universal principle is a principle of due process. And what due process requires is transparency and ability to understand how asystem works and ability to know what the rules are in advance. Quite counter to that is that you have a group of five to ten ceos that run the major internet Technology Companies making a determination of what content is allowed and not allowed. I think we need to get back to principles of due process so people can understand who it is thats controlling and sensoring the content that appears online. Its a great conversation. Im going to continue it on the weekend version of velshi ruhle, 12 30 p. M. Eastern on saturday with kara swisher of recode because stephanie is not here today and tomorrow. And were going to have this very conversation because its really important. Thank you for joining me for it. Matthew prince, ceo and cofounder of cloud flare. It might have been the president s worst week yet. Is there anything he can do to turn things around . And tina fey had her own advice for dealing with hate groups. Here she is on saturday night lives weekend update thursday. I really want to say encourage all good sane americans to treat the rallies this weekend like the opening of a thoughtful movie with two female leads. Dont show up. Let these more ones scream into the empty air. I love you charlottesville and as Thomas Jefferson once said, whos that hot light skinned girl over about the butter churn. Gotcha mom. But now that youre listening. 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The white house was left to deal with reaction to what many saw as a tepid response to the president compared to past terror attacks overseas, trump began to face backlash from his own party. He missed an opportunity to be very explicit here. These groups seem to believe they have a friend in donald trump in the white house. I dont know why they believe that but dont see me as a friend in the senate. I would urge the president to dissuade these groups that hes their friend. This isnt a time for innyou endo or read between the lines, its a time to lay blame on bigotry and White Nationalism and hatred. On wednesday merck ceo announced he was quitting the council over the many sides response. And he was followed later that day by ceos of under arm our and intel. The president did make another statement on charlottesville. As i said on saturday, we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred and bigotry and violence. It has no place in america. He didnt say many sides that time. On tuesday the commandant of the marine corps posted a forceful denuns yags of racism on twitter followed by the chiefs of the other military Services Later the same day. President trump made another statement on charlottesville at what was billed as an infrastructure event. You had people im not talking about the neonazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally but you had many people in the group other than neonazis and white nationalists, okay. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. There were people in that rally and i looked the night before, if you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of robert e. Lee. Thats what you call doubling down. On wednesday facing more potential defections from his advisory council, the president disbanded two of them. Reaction from foreign leaders began to mount in an interview theresa may offered this. As i made clear at the weekend following the horrendous scenes we saw in charlottesville, i absolutely abhor the hatred and violence we have seen portrayed by these groups. I think it is important for all of those in positions of responsibility to condemn far right views wherever we hear them. By thursday morning the president was tweeting forcefully about confederate monuments. Later moving onto the debunked claim by general pershing leading to yet more rebukes from his own party. What we want to see from our president is clarity and moral authority and that moral authority is compromised when tuesday happens. The president has not yet has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability, nor some of the confidence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful. And that was supporters like bob corker question his competence and criticism pours in over iz early week statements. The president kept a low profile with no public appearances since tuesday. That doesnt mean hes getting a pass with the mother of the woman killed on saturday saying this. We understand that President Trump has reached out. Have you talked to him directly yet . I have not and now i will not. Well, its a rough week and friday is only halfway over. Stand by, President Trumps own businesses are taking a financial hit because of his comments on charlottesville, three major funds raising galas are leaving march alago. Another statue comes down, another week weve been hearing from people around the country on this debate. Heres people from memphis, tennessee. These monuments to some extent say more about the people who erected them than the people that are the subject of the monuments themselves. Situations like this, can bring people closer together. I love my president. I think hes done well. And hes right, its on both sides, its not just one side. Both sides. Roughout whoooo. Looking for a hotel that fits. Your budget . 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Police are expecting to hold a News Conference in a little while. Were expecting a News Conference in about 20 or 25 minutes time and hopefully we can update you with Fresh Information once the police give us more an update on that. What we know so far from the finnish police, several people were stabbed by a man in the n finnish city much turku, they shot him and apprehended him after he went on some sort of stabbing rampage in the central part of turku. Theyve told people that are in the central part of that city to evacuate the area and that people should avoid coming in to that vicinity. The police said they are looking for potentially more suspects related to that stabbing incident and the operation is still ongoing. They said that theyve reinforced security at helsinki airport and train station and obviously after what happened in spain yesterday, finland will be on extra heightened sense of alert after these stabbings because the situation is still unfolding. As you said, weve seen some video of people running in the streets. There was a scene of panic. Were not sure exactly the details of that video and to go to a point that you made earlier, ali, this is a fairly remote place. This isnt an iconic city center. So if this was a terrorist attack and again we have to stress we dont know if it was, this would have been a much softer target, somewhere that wouldnt have had a massive amount of security. It could be a new tactic but again thats speculation at this stage until we know exactly the details and the motivation of this attack. Now, what were getting from finnish media that we cant confirm for sure right now is that one person was killed, finnish media saying eight people are in hospital with inju injuries. We dont know the extent of the injuries. Were hoping to get more from the News Conference and another newspaper there saying six people injured, one man and five women and that a woman who was walking with a stroller was attacked by a man with a very large knife who was shouting in the street. Youll stay on top of this for us. Were also following another breaking story, 14 people have been killed, more than 100 injured in a wave of attacks that hit spain yesterday. Five suspects were killed by police in the town of cambrils when they drove a car into a crowd earlier in barcelona. The driver of a van struck pedestrians in the citys busy las ramblas district. One american was killed and another was injured. New details are being released on who they are just yet. This very minute President Trump on his way to camp david. There he is boarding air force once. Set to get a briefing with the national xoubs. Security council. The white house says theyll discuss strategy on afghanistan and north korea. There he is. City leaders across the country are preparing ahead of a planned nine city protest by the alt right groups, authorities in boston are making final preparations for pay a rally to held on boston commons. They are hoping to prevent the violence seen in charlottesville, virginia last weekend. And right now a Funeral Service is under way in Richmond Virginia for state trooper berke bates, you see terry mcauliffe. Bates was one of two killed when a helicopter crashed last saturday. Trooper bates would have turned 41 years old last sunday, the day of attack. He leaves behind a wife and two twin children. Donald trump branded himself as the businessman president but his stock has plummeted. Is there any going back for him . Markets are responding to the turmoil after heavy losses yesterday. Youre seeing the dow down a little bit. Stay with us youre watching quts vvelshi ruhle live on. Strong muscles, all in one. Highly digestible, and a taste he loves, all in one. 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The Washington Post reports three fund raising giants have canceled plants for galas at the president s maralago resort in palm beach which the president himself calls the winter white house. The American Cancer Society and Cleveland Clinic and american friends of Magen David Adom s. Seven other groups announced in recent months they would choose other venues citing reasons such as political differences and security hassles. Already abandoned plans to form a council after a flood of res igs nations by high profile members in the wake of his response to charlottesville. High profile criticism of the response 21st fox chief executie james murdoch. In an email he says what we watched last week in charlottesville and the reaction to it by the president of the United States concern all of us as americans and free people. James murdoch went on to say he and his wife will donate a Million Dollars to the antidefamation leak. The apple ceo tim cook said he will donate a Million Dollars each to the antideafination league and the southern poverty law center. Joining us is jeffy soddenfeld. He cofounded an institute as yale. Good to see you. Great to see you, again, its been a while. Lets talk about this. This is a businessman president. He said many times how he is a chief negotiator, gets things done, gets deals done. The Business People will like him. In a way that business didnt like barack obama. I think of all the things that have happened to him this week, this is the toughest for him. This is his wheelhouse. Its so annoying. You always can do this so well in two sentences. You summarized the essence of this huge week in terms of the president. His identity was wrapped around, draped of being the ceo president as you said, it was so critical it wasnt he was presenting himself as this fairly successful new York Real Estate developer with global investments. No, he was the ceo president. The first time in American History weve had a president who was a ceo. Its the first time in American History weve had the whole u. S. Business community shun the commander in chiefs call to national service. Nobody ever said no to Richard Nixon at his worst, to bill clinton through some of his most humiliating moments. Early days were rough with the obama administration. No matter who it was and whenever it was, the Business Community has been there. Back in roosevelt eras, we had great Business Leaders who wound up becoming critical liaisons through history. National service was a source of pride. For them to turn on him, led by the heroic ken frazier of merck, the child who said to the emperor hes naked. Let me ask you, people have asked me whats the effect. The president touted the councils in ways to get the input of business to deal with his tax agenda. In the end, a number of people involved in these councils said they werent doing much. They seemed to be photo ops for the president. You know, so is this superficial or substantive . Its more than symbolism. You know, i was very frustrated at first. Some early ceos, we saw uber and intel and walmart join quickly after. The Business Community is afraid of being browbeat. They thought maybe these groups could be of some value, even though theyve been sitting there like potted plants smiling for photo ops. They thought that we dont want the forces of darkness, the only information source as trump listens to. Despite what many of his critics think, President Trump is very intelligent. He can be persuaded. They thought of revisiting the way nafta was being formulated, they saw openings. They have to take a stand when you see a tidal wave of folks rushing to get out of here. There are people like jamie diamond, the chairman of boeing that could forge a bridge back. Welch of course. And try to get a liason going. We got into it with somebody who repeats these donald trump claims that imply that the market going up and jobs being created are a donald trump phenomenon, when in fact, we dont need to get into this stuff. If you measure the number of jobs created in the First Six Months of the donald trump administration, theyre lower than the prior six months. Ive got on the chart, a chart that ca that goes back to 2009. You would see its a relatively straight slope up on the markets. Donald trump is continuing what was already there. Its absolutely continuing. The great trajectory they were on coming off the economic plans of the obama administration. We have that continuity. There is no sudden step function jump. Its just not there in the data. The only thing thats in the data that you can correspond to trump right now is that there was a piece on our sister station at cnbc that shows charting the dollar against the popularity ratings of President Trump. Its plummeting. 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