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incompetently drawn contracts i've ever seen. we could have had a much better deal, we could have had a much stronger deal. we should have dubloubled up th sanctions. we don't get anything. we get nothing from this deal. >> katy tur is in washington for us at that rally and joins us on the phone. so, katy, talk about this. when the votes are all in, the deal will hold so what's the point of having that rally and what are trump, cruz and the rest hoping to accomplish? >> reporter: well, this is political grandstanding at its best with trump and cruz. they're not trying to necessarily convince the maybe undecided that could potentially still be out there to say no to this iran deal but rather to convince their base of supporters and the american public that they do not support this deal and do not believe it should go through. by coming out here and speaking to this crowd and getting on national television shows they are able to get their message out that they don't believe this is the way that the united states should be going. trump has written an op-ed saying he thinks this is a terrible deal. and that's what he's trying to accomplish by coming out here and standing alongside ted cruz and glenn beck and sarah palin. this is about as partisan as it gets. pretty much a tea party rally out here. so if there was any indication that they thought they could convince part of senate democrats to say no to this, i think that that's just a lip service at this point. i think they know they're not going to convince them so they're trying to convince the american public where they stand. donald trump says he's not going to rip up this deal, unlike ted cruz who says he would. he says he would try to police it as strongly as he possibly could. >> very interesting, the pairing two of ted cruz and donald trump. ted saying wherever donald goes, the media follows in droves, so certainly the case as we follow this rally and bring you those remarks live as it happens. katie toy tur, thank you very m. also in just a few moments i'll chat with state department senior advisory marie harf to dig deeper into iran and our next story, which is that about-face from hillary clinton and those e-mails. when it comes to her private e-mail server, hillary clinton has finally said it. she's sorry. >> in retrospect certainly as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts, one for personal, one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can. >> on tuesday, clinton taped appear appearance on ellen degeneres right here at 30 rock. that will air tomorrow. she said she's sorry for the confusion that has ensued. it was an apology that her critics argue was a long time coming. >> i know there have been questions about my e-mails, so i want to address that directly. looking back, it would have been better if i'd simply used a second e-mail account and carried a second phone, but at the time this didn't seem like an issue. >> i think there's so much confusion around this, that i understand why reporters and the public are, you know, asking questions. but the facts are pretty clear. >> you may have seen that i recently launched a snapchat account. i love it. those messages disappear all by themselves. in retrospect, what was supposed to be convenient has turned out to be anything but convenient. >> you were in charge of it. you were the official in charge. did you wipe the server? >> what, like with a cloth or something? >> i don't know. >> nobody talked to me about it other than you guys. >> you said recently that using your personal e-mail while you were secretary of state was not the best choice and that you take responsibility. are you sorry? >> well, i certainly wish that i had made a different choice and i know why the american people have questions about it. but in retrospect, it certainly would have been better, i take responsibility. >> are you sorry? do you want to apologize to the american people for the choice you made? >> well, it wasn't the best choice. >> it's a distraction, certainly. but it hasn't in any way affected, you know, the plan for our campaign. >> howard dean is a former governor of vermont and dnc chairman, john feery is a republican strategist. to both of you we appreciate you being with us. we want to start with you, governor dean, because on this very show a few days ago, my colleague thomas roberts asked you about the e-mail controversy and in your words you said it was hocus pocus, nonsense, skillful manipulation by the republican party here. now that she's apologizing, would you still use those words? >> absolutely. this is a kabuki. when the media wants to humble you, they do. she was humbled and she did the right thing. but this is not about the e-mail server. there's no there there. this is about whether hillary clinton is going to show herself to the public as someone who's willing to be humble in front of them, and that was the whole gig and the media would like to put themselves in the king maker position, which they have done. i think there's nothing to this. i never have thought that. >> so are you just saying she was apologizing to appease the media maybe, some of her supporters who may be worried? >> this is the kind of thing you have to go through in politics. i had to go through it. sometimes you may think that you're in the right. if the media gangs up on you and decides you're not, sometimes you have to do things you might rather not do. but you have to. it's all part of the game. it's part of the presidential race and been part of the presidential race sips we've had television. >> i'm sure that's something that john will weigh in especially as it comes to the e-mail controversy and 2016. big enough to be a winning issue on the gop side? >> well, we'll see. we don't know what we don't know about these e-mails. we still don't know all the things that may or may not have been deleted from the server which she had for reasons that are still not completely explained in this apology. she's gone on this apology tour. the first thing for hillary clinton is throughout all this she looks like just a typical politician in an era when politicians are very unpopular with the american people. she also has this kind of pattern of deception that, you know, alienates voters, even within the democratic primary. i think that's why you see people like bernie sanders, who has this fresh image as something new, even though he's an older guy and been a politician for a long time. it's gaining and in some ways beating hillary clinton in some polls. so this is a problem for hillary clinton. how she reinvents herself is a mystery to me. >> with the reboot of her campaign and wanting to show more humorous and heart felt, hillary clinton, we know that is the strategy from this point on. governor dean to you. let me show you the latest poll. hillary clinton's support among democrats following in new hampshire and iowa. in both polls bernie sanders and vice president biden gaining. so, governor dean, why is that? are the e-mails a factor here even though you've made it clear that this is the nonstory? >> i think the e-mails are a factor. again, this is what the press does. there was no merit to it. first they claimed -- first they claimed that the russians had to do with the iranian mine and then a criminal investigation into the e-mails. the goal posts keep getting moved around. the issue is -- and i disagree with john. i think people do know hillary clinton. one thing they know about her is she's ready to be president of the united states, which they can't say about anybody else who's running in this race on either side. that is actually going to make her president of the united states at the end of the day. >> but do you think that with the trouble that she's had when it comes to honesty and trustworthiness, that still, regardless of efforts for a warmer, more heartfelt hillary clinton here, that that still may we haunting her in her campaign? >> i don't think so. i think she is trustworthy, i think she's tough as nails. i think people want a tough person that can handle the job. there's only one person that fits this description on either side of the aisle in this race. >> john, i want to ask you here, while we were waiting, this rally happening now called the anti-nuclear deal rally. donald trump is expected to speak, ted cruz, certainly other tea party members as well. what do you think about that as far as the republicans going through this when this is pretty much a done deal with congress? why waste their efforts on this rally? >> well, i think they want to show how really against this treaty they are. any time you get donald trump, sarah palin and ted cruz on the same stage, it's going to bring cameras, and you have this nice backdrop of the u.s. capitol. listen, we all know what's going to happen. the republicans are going to vote against it, some democrats are going to vote against it and ultimately it's not going to be enough votes to overturn a presidential veto but it's important to go through this process so we establish that there is some real opposition to this treaty through a vast majority -- not a vast majority but a majority of the american people. i think that this kind of rally is a good way to throw some more attention on that opposition. >> ultimately, won't it be ted cruz and maybe donald trump benefitting through it and making it more of a political stage for them, even though we know donald trump has shown his weakness when it comes to foreign policy. so not necessarily the focus on the actual deal but saying, hey, let's make it a campaign move. >> yeah, i think this is kind of campaign related, although, you know, i think it's a serious issue and i think earlier the speaker said that -- governor dean said this is trifl januavi an important thing. i think we do need to have a good debate. i think that's what we're going to have in the senate and the house. there is some concern that we're not getting all the facts of this treaty and some of these side deals that need to come out. i would like to see those side deals. it would be nice to have a discussion of those side deals before we actually have a vote. maybe we'll get more democrats to vote with us. >> we see some republicans to postpone it so they can see those side deals. howard dean, john feehery, thank you. our bing pulse question went live and many of you are weighing in. do you accept hillary clinton's apology on the e-mail controversy? 85% of viewers say they do accept it. 15% don't accept it. we'll see how that changes over the course of the next hour. pulse.msnbc.com. hillary clinton and donald trump aren't the only ones speaking out about the iran deal today. house speaker john boehner and his leadership team spent most of their weekly news conference this morning denouncing it. listen to them. >> i think the president has lost this debate with the american people. he lost it the moment that he agreed to a deal that allows iran to stay on a path to develop a nuclear weapon. we're going to do all we can to continue to try to stop this bad deal. >> marie harf is the senior advisor to secretary of state john kerry. marie, as always, welcome to you. appreciate you being here. i want to ask you, why has the deal been so hard to sell to the gop. >> well, i think the fact that a majority of republicans came out against the deal before it was even done says something about the partisanship here that's really at play. look, we're in an election year. we're all well aware of that. if you look at the undecided members of congress, the more they study it, the more they talk to experts and scientists, secretary of energy ernie moniz, the rally that's about to take place speaks to the level of partisanship. they're trying to score political points. what we're focused on is implementing this deal and preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> i want to share with you these pew research polls and the support for the deal has never been really particularly strong. as we look at this in september, approval was 21%, disapproval 49% compared to those numbers in july. so it soeeems it's more support with democrats that has favored the steel has suffered a little bit. what do you attribute that to? >> i think the poll numbers are all over the place when it comes to this deal. one thing we have consistently seen is the more people know about the details in the deal, the more they support it and that's the trajectory we think is important. but the american people have a long history when it comes to the iranian regime. we've lived through some very difficult times with them and this is something that i think many people feel very strongly about. but again, when you get into the details, when you talk about all the restrictions, the unprecedented verification, the fact that this deal will prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon forever, contrary to some republican claims that i've heard even today on the senate floor, forever they are prohibited from getting a nuclear weapon, i think that you'll see the american people increasingly support this deal. >> we certainly heard some tough talk from hillary clinton this morning, tougher than the president himself. she said that we cannot trust the iranians to uphold their end of the bargain, that there will be violations. interesting how she said the starting point of this will be distrust and only to verify afterward. so what kind of violations do you expect to see and how will those be policed? >> nothing in this agreement is based on trust, we've been very clear about that. it is all based on verification, on making sure iran is doing every single thing it's committed to do. after this deal is able to be implemented, after we're past this congressional review period, we will be watching very closely and iran will not get an additional dime of sanctions relief until they take all of those nuclear-related steps. and we don't know quite frankly how this will all play out. that's why we'll be watching incredibly carefully. if iran doesn't take all the steps they have committed to, they won't get the sanctions relief they so desperately need. >> marie harf, we appreciate your time. >> happy to be here. now to some traumatic moments at the tarmac in vegas. have you seen this video? watch the smoke and flames billowing from this british airways plane. it caught fire just ahead of takeoff. despite how terrifying these images look, the 170 people who were on that plane, all of them got off safely, although 13 did have to go to the hospital. >> there was a lady with a very young baby not too far from us and she was immensely brave taking her baby and stuff off the flight really quickly. pretty much everyone was trying to help other people. >> and as the investigation continues, the pilot blames the incident on catastrophic engine failure. coming up, the $64,000 question. will freed kentucky county clerk kim davis continue to defy the supreme court when she returns to work? 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block them. >> what i know right now is what she has told the court and everyone else, and that is that she will not under any circumstances violate her conscience and the core of who she is. >> but one of her deputy clerks is standing firm. >> when miss davis comes back, i'll still issue a license. >> joining me now, msnbc's chief legal correspondent, ari melber. ari, good to have you with us to break this down. even though the confusion isn't over, she's out of jail but then when it comes to the marriage licenses that were issued by the deputy clerks, there's an argument if those are valid. her attorneys are saying they're not. but yet the governor is saying, yeah, they sign it and those are valid. so who's right here? >> in a dispute like this, the controlling legal authority, the government, matters a lot more than what her attorneys are saying. they can go to court and argue whatever they want but it doesn't mean much unless a judge agrees legally or the governor and the oversight of the state, which of course regulates marriage, whether they agree. so ultimately her lawyers have been argument. they seem to be on the losing side of this both with regard to her legal status. that's why she was held in contempt and held in jail, and with regard to the validity of these licenses. >> we saw this reception that she got as we're looking at video of her coming out of jail yesterday. republican presidential candidates were there in support. mike huckabee met with davis yesterday and spoke there hand in hand at the rally. this morning he appeared on "morning joe" and here's what he said. >> the big question is, did the judge overreach and do exactly what i've been warning about, which is judicial teir annie by putting this woman in jail so she didn't have to affix her name to a marriage license to which she objected because of her christian beliefs. >> did the judge overreach? where is the law here? >> no, the judge was well within his rights. i think there are two issues here and mike huckabee seems to be sort of combining them. one is are we a nation of laws and do we observe what the supreme court says, regardless of what you believe, and the answer, of course, is yes. this very judge, appointed by george w. bush, has made statements that many interpret to mean that there's a personal belief against gay marriage, but that's not relevant because judges don't make decisions based on their personal beliefs. that's the whole point. the secondary issue that huckabee -- governor huckabee is referring to is more valid, which is do we have some sort of compromise, some sort of give in the system. so he's saying, well, is there any way to resolve this without this person going to jail. did she in an act of civil disobedience perhaps want to go to jail to make her point? these are all open questions. i think the tough legal political part, the part we have to work on as a nation is how can we make sure to observe the supreme court's rules in a manner that gives some people the religious exemptions they want for their beliefs. but ultimately that matters a lot more in your private life than if you take a government job. she has a government oath to uphold, that means what the supreme court says has to trump her so-called conscience. >> certainly important to watch because you have similar cases in states like kentucky, north carolina, alabama and texas where there are public officials who are refusing the same thing. ari melber as always, thanks very much. appreciate it. i want to take you now live to capitol hill. a quick look there at the rally that's starting among conservatives, those opposing the iran nuclear deal. you have somebody there at the podium. donald trump, as we understand, has arrived. he is within that crush of reporters. you can see them. no trump but certainly all the reportede reporters around him as he has arrived for that rally. he is expected to speak as well as ted cruz. when he makes his remarks and takes the podium, we'll bring it to you. up next, caitlyn jenner hits the links with the "today" show's matt lauer. find out what she has to say about the deadly crash in malibu and allegations that speed was a factor. first, watching this heat wave sizzling here in the northeast. it's september. well, those record temperatures have retreated a little bit today but not the humidity. this as a strong cold front sweeps into the east and the south, sparking showers and thunderstorms. the weather channel's chris warren has it all covered. chris, who is seeing what and when? >> well, right now this is a look at where the storms are. the cold front is right through here. the red arrow showing us where the warmer air is coming from and the colder air coming in. so strong storms in new york right now, throughout parts of the midwest. once the storms get through, it will get just a bit cooler, but today back into the upper 80s and lower 90s again. tomorrow, a little bit of cooling, much different than the past couple of days. upper 70s for boston and new york city with temperatures even cooler in the interior. we're looking at readings into the 70s. and then things are going to be even cooler back down into the lower 80s by this weekend. frances. >> all right, chris, thank you very much. i want to take you now back to washington, d.c., as ted cruz taking the stage here, the podium for this huge rally for conservatives there as they are wanting to thwart the nuclear agreement that's pretty much a done deal. let's take a quick listen. >> the obama administration will become quite literally the world's leading financier of radical islamic terrorism. if it goes through over $100 billion will flow directly to iran, to the ayatollah, and billions of those dollars will go directly to hamas, to hezbollah, to the houthis, to radical islamic terrorists across the world, and those jihadists will use those billions to murder americans, to murder israelis, to murder europeans. the second consequence of this catastrophic deal is that it abandons four american hostages in an iranian hell hole. including pastor sayeed, an american citizen,a christian pastor, sentenced to eight years in prison for the crime of preaching the gospel. including former marine, amere hekmadi, including "washington post" reporter jason rezian, including bob levinson. it is a disgrace for this administration to abandon americans in iranian hell holes. but the third consequence of this deal going through if it does is that it will facilitate and accelerate the nation of iran acquiring nuclear weapons. there is no greater threat to the safety and security of america. there is no greater threat to the safety and security of israel than a nuclear iran. i agree with prime minister netanyahu that a nuclear iran poses an existential threat to the nation of israel. and let me be clear, when he says existential he doesn't mean a bunch of frenchmen in black berets chain smoking, he means literally going to the very existence of israel. when prime minister netanyahu addressed a joint session of congress, a joint session that president obama boycotted, that vice president biden boycotted, that every member of the cabinet boycotted, i participated in a panel discussion with the nobel laureate, the holocaust survivor. and he observed the one threat capable of murdering 1 million jews in a flash of light was a nuclear iran. never again means never again. the second group i want to address are democratic senators and democratic members of congress. right now today 42 senate democrats have come out in support of this deal. it is my hope and prayer that every one of those senate democrats reconsiders. that they go home and they fall to their knees and they pray tonight. i agree with former democratic senator joe lieberman, that this vote is quite likely the most important vote that any member of congress, any member of the senate will cast in their entire career. there was a time when there was a tradition of scoop jackson democrats, of jfk democrats, of joe lieberman democrats, of democrats who were willing to defend national security. sadly, that is becoming rarer and rarer in today's congress. so to every democratic senator, they are facing a choice, do you value the safety and security of the united states of america? do you value standing with our friend and ally, the nation of israel? do you value the lives of millions of americans? or do you value more party loyalty to the obama white house. to every democratic senator who said he or she will support this deal, i ask you to consider how will you look in the eyes of the mothers and fathers of our soldiers, the hundreds of soldiers, american soldiers who were murdered in iraq with iranian ieds that came from general sulamani. tell me how you look a mom in the eyes and say i voted to lift sanctions on the man who murdered your son when he was defending this nation. but beyond that, when we talk about terrorism, it's worth remembering that if this deal goes through, we know to an absolute certainty people will die. americans will die, israelis will die, europeans will die. osama bin laden never had $100 billion. he was filled with hatred and using rudimentary tools, murdered nearly 3,000 americans on september 11th, 2001. we're now talking about giving the ayatollah tod, a homicidal maniac who hates america as much as bin laden did, giving him $100 billion to carry out his murderous plan. i want to ask every senate democrat how will you look in the eyes of the mother or father or son or daughters of those who are murdered by jihadists, those americans who were blown up, those americans who were shot, those americans who were killed, those israelis who were murdered. and let me be clear, if you vote to send billions of dollars to jihadists who have pledged to murder americans, then you bear direct responsibility for the murders carried out with the dollars you have given them. >> texas senator ted cruz certainly fired up, impassioned in his speech at this anti-iran nuclear deal rally there in washington, d.c. he took to the podium, still speaking there live. really making a very emotional plea to the democrats, especially those 42 who have voted in favor of the deal. especially blocking the possibility of that deal being squashed. and also asking them to ask this question, do you value the safety and security of the american people, of this country, of the millions of americans who value their lives or do you value more the party loyalty of the obama white house. so certainly direct questions there as this rally is under way hero posing that nuclear deal. other conservatives expected there, donald trump is there. he is expected to take to the podium as well and other members of the tea party as well, other conservatives, glenn beck and sarah palin also there in attendance. i want to bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell who is following this from capitol hill. kelly, tell us really what struck you, especially when the start of this speech he enumerated why this is a bad deal, saying you're giving billions of dollars to jihadists, disgrace to abandon the four american hostages there in what he called a hell hole and facilitate and accelerate iran acquiring nuclear weapons. >> reporter: well, frances, ted cruz has been making these arguments both here on capitol hill and on the campaign trail. this is one of the most passionate issues for him at this phase in the political season, both in his role as a senator and as a presidential candidate. and he's speaking to a crowd out there in the hot washington sun today, about 90 degrees, so the sweat factor is high. speaking to a passionate crowd of conservatives who also have deep concerns about this deal. while inside on capitol hill there are real debates going on as well about where things stand. now, we know that a number of democrats, 42, enough to block a veto, have publicly said that they would support the iran deal. the voting has not yet taken place. so while this is a political theater moment in some ways, it is also about moving the general public, trying to put pressure on congress and also trying to make points with others in congress. now, that might not change minds, but part of what happens here on capitol hill and when the season on the political trail sort of blends with the government season that's back in play now is this idea of building pressure. what may be a done deal in terms of the obama administration getting a legacy win on this issue is not a done deal in terms of trying to change minds over time. so ted cruz is doing what he does best on the trail and that is this sort of level of high-pitched passion and calling on democrats. he often, i've been with him a number of times where he says where are the joe lieberman democrats? he of course was the former democratic senator from connecticut who was much more hawkish. we don't see as much of that in the democratic party that's in office right now. >> in that plea, kelly, senator cruz said as far as these democratic senators, this is going to be the most important vote you will cast in your career. so given that, are there any out there who even have any wiggle room for him to sway with that vote? >> reporter: well, the ones we were most closely watching have weighed in and you have three democratic senators who have publicly said they are a no on this and that of course is chuck schumer, who is likely to be the next leader of democrats in the senate after harry reid's retirement, robert menendez who has been a top democrat on the foreign relations committee of all time and joe manchin of west virginia who is a former governor of his state, but his state tends to be much redder and he tends to be more conservative than others in his party. but when you look at the whole number of members of congress, house and senate, actually a majority, because there are more republicans, oppose this deal. so you have kind of a smaller number, but the very influential critical number of democrats are enough to give the president a pathway on this. and so changing minds is always possible, but it seems unlikely that there is anyone on the fence left who ted cruz would be able to influence. we'll see how it plays out. but the debate itself is important, so this is not just theater, it is a part of the process because until the votes happen, we've got to see it play out. frances. >> this as we are watching ted cruz there. thank you, kelly o'donnell, there on the podium. we are seeing his gestures, very impassioned as well. i want to go to msnbc political reporter kasie hunt. she is at that rally in washington, d.c. kasie, you spoke with donald trump who is scheduled to take on the podium shortly but interesting how he'll showcase his foreign policy and also he's there on invitation of ted cruz. >> reporter: he is. in fact we're outside of the west front of the capitol which is a place ted cruz has come to know relatively well and where he has typically been the biggest draw as far as conservative crowds like this one that are here on the west front of the lawn to cheer for him. but i just spoke with trump and the reality is while he said, you know, i announced two days ago i was coming, this crowd has come for me, it's not 100% clear that this crowd was entirely developed by trump. as you can see around the ages, there are plenty of people here who have come by who are not the typical kind of crowd that you would see at an organized rally. so while we have some signs in the front that is clearly part of this organized effort that was not done -- that was done by the tea party patriots rather than the trump campaign, there are still plenty of people walking in to see trump. i asked him whether or not there was anything in detail that he would change in this agreement that the president has made, and he of course said, no, of course i don't have any details. now, his explanation for that was that he would not give away those details. that sounds like we're getting donald trump on stage. >> it does. he is doing the wave. and of course when he starts speaking we'll dip in. that may be right now. here we go. let's listen. >> thank you very much, everybody. it's such an honor. i was called by senator krocruz few days ago and he said do you think we can get a really good crowd out here to protest this incompetent crowd. i said boy can we get a crowd. look what shows up and i want to thank you. i want to thank you. so i've been doing deals for a long time. i've been making lots of wonderful deals, great deals. that's what i do. never, ever, ever in my life have i seen any transaction so incompetently negotiated as our deal with iran. and i mean never. now, ted and everybody else have gone through all of the details and we can talk about the 24 days, which is ridiculous. we can talk about the $150 billion which, by the way, they get even if the deal isn't approved. they get it just for going to the table. we can talk about the fact that we have four wonderful people over there, and frankly they're never going to come back with this group. and i will say this. if i win the presidency, i guarantee you that those four prisoners are back in our country before i ever take office. i guarantee that. they will be back before i ever take office because they know that's what has to happen, okay? they know it. and if they don't know it, i'm telling them right now. so i have a story that just came out an hour ago. and as president obama calls him very routinely, he calls him the supreme leader. our president is calling the person who is really the boss in iran supreme leader. i look at people shaking their heads, they can't believe it. but it just came out a little while ago, he said israel will not exist in 25 years. think of that. he just said this. he also said very strongly, very, very strongly, that this is the end of our dealings with the united states, we want nothing more to do with them. we're not going to do anything right here. we made this deal. it's a phenomenal deal. we're not going to deal with the united states anymore and that's what he just said. and this was a very short period of time ago. so they rip us off, they take our money, they make us look like fools and now they're back to being who they really are. they don't want israel to survive. they will not let israel survive with incompetent leadership like we have right now, israel will not survive. and then when it's all done or they think it's all done, they come out with these unbelievable nasty statements that israel won't be around in 25 years and that we have no dealings and we will have no further dealings with the united states. now, the people that we were negotiating with and were working on the sanctions with, including and as an example russia, who is selling tremendous missiles to iran, you know that, ballistic missiles being sold, all of these countries, all of these countries are going to do business with iran. they're going to make lots of money and lots of other things with iran. and we're going to do and we're going to get nothing. nothing. we are led by very, very stupid people. very, very stupid people. we cannot let it continue. we are a country that owes $19 trilli trillion. we lose everywhere. we lose militarily, we can't beat isis. give me a break. we can't beat anybody. our vets are being treated horribly. it will change. we will have so much winning if i get elected that you may get bored with winning. believe me. i agree, you'll never get bored with winning. we never get bored. we are going to turn this country around. we are going to start winning big league on trade, militarily. we're going to build up our military. we're going to have such a strong military that nobody, nobody is going to mess with us. we're not going to have to use it. i really, really appreciate this tremendous crowd. we are going to make america great again. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. >> all right. donald trump there at the rally opposing the iran nuclear deal. some may say took a little shorter speech than he normally is used to taking, but certainly making his thoughts known when it comes to the deal, saying that never in my life have i seen a deal negotiated so incompetently, saying this country is led by very stupid people and under an incompetent lordship with the president and politician. he said now he'll make america a winning country, winning in trade, winning militarily. you'll get bored with winning in his words. there is trump just concludes those remarks. i want to bring back in msnbc's kasie hunt. as you listen to that, kasie, of course donald trump started off with the bragging that you're used to hearing when it comes to his negotiating skills. he said i negotiated many, many deals but he's never seen something negotiated so incompetently than this iran nuclear deal. >> reporter: that's right, frances. and he, of course, is really hitting on something that does strike a chord with the republican electorate, the idea that it's embodied in his slogan, make america great again. there's a lot of feeling among republican voters who i talk to out on the trail that you know what, it's a lot harder to get ahead anymore and they don't feel like their children will have the same shot that they had to have a good job. they're often working two jobs where they used to be able to work just one in order to get anything like health benefits, so he's striking a chord there and saying that he wants the country itself to be stronger. i think that's something that people have really responded to. and i think that works in tandem with something that's going on a little deeper here and a part of why the tea party and ted cruz in particular are hitting on this deal so hard because it really does impact israel. that's an issue that resonates very deeply with particularly the evangelical voters who are so important in the early states like iowa, for example. iowa is of course the place where we're seeing ted cruz potentially being strong, where trump has done fairly well in the polls, as compared to some of the other states where such polling has been done. so between speaking to a very fundamental anger in the electorate and hitting on that particular note, this really is something that potentially drives the conversation in the early voting republican states, frances. >> certainly another part of this that is interesting is to see donald trump and ted cruz kind of partner up. even before this, you know, you kind of have that likelihood, you said ted cruz said, you know what, a lot of the presidential candidates have gone out of their way to stick it to donald trump. i'm not one of them. saying, frankly, wherever media goes or wherever donald trump goes, the media follows. what does he have to gain from that? kind of in essence hanging out with the cool kid in high school, you become one too? or what's the strategy here with that? >> reporter: there's a couple of things going on here, frances. first of all, cruz hasn't been on the end of attacks from donald trump, which is not something that can be said for any one of the other candidates who's gone after trump on the trail. cruz has been very careful not to go after him. they met not that long ago at trump tower, and cruz privately, people around cruz as well as cruz himself publicly expressed interest in basically hugging donald trump. they want these voters to come to him in the event that they decide that trump isn't qualified to be president. and i think it's part of what you're seeing in the polls, that many of these potential trump voters are also potential or likely ted cruz voters. and he is on the flip side of that the person that is hurt the most by trump coming in and potentially leading the polls in iowa. he's drawing away from otherwise cruz would have considerably more oxygen. so he's doing stuff like this. he also yesterday you saw went to that rally that huckabee had in kentucky with the clerk, kim davis. and that's another situation where there was some private anger on the part of huckabee's team that cruz decided to show up at the last minute to a rally that they felt they had organized, put a lot of time and money into. so cruz trying to clearly play off all of these different constituencies as he sails under the radar heading into the caucus season. >> back to trump, what struck me is that donald trump didn't stay on that podium even longer. you know, he's unpredictable. sometimes he can go on and talk to people in the crowd, leave the stage. but in this case he said those impassioned words and then he left. a lot of people watching this, because as you know there's that weakness when it comes to foreign policy that many people have attacked him on and saying that this is a time where he could have at least shown some strength, at least made up for it. he did not. how does that work out as far as when people are watching and see how he'll go about in his foreign policy? >> reporter: well, frances, i'm not sure that a setting like this is necessarily someplace where we expected to see trump give a foreign policy address of any kind. this is definitely a rah-rah rally around an issue that this crowd has already lost. the president has the votes that he needs in congress to move this through so i think the tenor is a little different. i also think this is not donald trump's comfort zone. this is not an event that his team organized and put together. i will say having covered a number of them, his events are very well stage managed, very well choreographed. in this case he's dealing with unfamiliar security and members of congress. i saw a number of members of congress on that platform just waiting to shake hands with donald trump, sort of an interesting dynamic there that's pretty unusual in this particular building where the members tend to be the 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>> reporter: well, francis, the point is to rally the faithful. this rally has been under way. organizationally for about a week or so. so that's obviously before democrats officially cobbled together the votes that they would need to override any veto and make sure that the agreement does go through. but at the same time, this is an issue to continue to have resonance over the course of a pretty long campaign and whether it's trump tapping into the anger that many americans feel about the country not being in the position that they want to see it in or whether it's evangelical voters particularly concerned about israel and we have seen a lot of those types of people up here on capitol hill all day today focusing on this issue, so at this point i think it's really a rallying cry an pushing forward to the general election, if, in fact, hillary clinton is the presumptive democratic nominee, she is having a little bit of trouble lately, but assuming she is still in that position, she is the president's secretary of state and you saw her in many ways preemptively lay out her own case for defending this. i think that shows a recognition this is something to continue to be a part of the conversation for months to come. even though this at this point is about to be finalized in congress. >> all right. msn msnbc's kasie hunt, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. now senator an gus king, a member of the armed services and budget committee and the u.s. select committee on intelligence. senator, thank you for joining us. appreciate your being with us. i want to ask you this. with that rally there and a lot of angered words we have heard from senator cruz and donald trump, is there any hope for republicans as far as derailing the deal? >> i don't think so. it appear it is votes are there and there to sustain a veto. i, frankly, hope that the resolution of disapproval fails in the senate. i think that's a better message they sustaining a veto. either way it appears that the agreement is going to go through. i wish i could be as sure as those guys. this is a difficult question of weighing risks and i concluded that the risks of not going forward with the deal far outweigh the risks of going forward with the deal that basically is been approved by the rest of the world. >> i want to ask you, also, hillary clinton with her tough talk earlier today, speaking out in favor of the deal, let's listen to what she had to say earlier. >> sadly, that is becoming rarer and rarer in today's congress. so to every democratic senator, they're facing -- >> okay. that's ted cruz as he spoke out earlier. >> didn't sound like hillary to me. >> no, no, no. that was ted cruz watching video earlier of donald trump as you heard him say, one of the best negotiators out there, i have done many deals. this is the worst deal, sign of incompetence he's seen, paraphrasing that. what about donald trump? a lot of people saw this as possibility an opportunity to talk about it, maybe see his take on foreign policy. do you agree with donald trump here and this this is the worst deal, especially as we're asking how he's viewed on his foreign policy issues? >> well, it is not a perfect deal. it is a negotiated agreement. i've negotiated deals myself and i have never seen one that's exactly what i would have wanted. there are flaws in it. but the real question you have to ask is what's the alternative? what do you do if we reject this deal? and the alternative, unfortunately, is that the rest of the world, our partners in this negotiation have already indicated pretty strongly that if we walk, the sanctions regime which brought iran to the table is going to erode. it's going to get weaker and i don't understand why anybody thinks iran's going to come back to the table, make more concessions if, in fact, the sanctions are weaker. i mean, this's the real question. it is not is this a perfect deal. i don't think anybody here is argue that it is. although it does have some strong provisions, somewhat stronger than i expected, frankly. two thirds reduction in their centrifuges and there's strong provisions and, okay, compared to what? if we reject it, what happens then? that's the question that the opponents frankly, just never answered. >> we have heard from hillary clinton saying it's necessary, mill lair action will be taken. we have that. let's listen. >> sure. >> the united states will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon. as president, i will take whatever actions are necessary to protect the united states and our allies. i will not hesitate to take military action. >> are you with hillary clinton with agreeing to take whatever military action is necessary? >> i think that has to be what's on the table an one of the important ways to look at this whole arrangement is, it essentially puts iran out of the nuclear weapons business for 15 years. at the end of 15 years, we still have the same options that we have today. and i think a president has to state that those options are on the table. i think iran has to understand that and believe it. but in the meantime, if we have a 15-year period where we realize they are out of the nuclear weapons business, let's take advantage of that and then we have this same options of now. more sanctions or military option in 15 years. but a lot can happen in that period of time and that's why people like colin powell and madeline albright and many others who know a lot about foreign policy and george mitchell i might mention from maine who is also something of a negotiator have endorsed this deal. >> all right. senator king, thank you very much. just updating you now as this rally is taking place live in washington,d.c. mitch mcconnell was speaking about that and bob corker speaking to say we'll revisit this deal when there is a republican president. certainly, the pushback of the republican party here as this iran nuclear deal with the 42 democrat senate votes strong enough to seal the deal almost done. we're asking you to weigh in also with this. donald trump and the comments earlier on the deal and whether you think he has credibility on foreign policy issues. so here's how we are looking so far. 29% of our viewers say, yes, he has credibility. 71% saying no. keep the votes coming. pulse.msnbc.com and more results later this hour. well, when it comes to her private e-mail server, hillary clinton said it. the "s" word. she is sorry. >> retrospect, certainly, as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts. one for personal, one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can. >> follows months of public statements and said that she followed state department rules, taking a few sarcastic swipes at the detractors. harold ford jr. is a former democratic congressman from tennessee. as always, thank you for your time here. >> thank you for having me. >> many will say with the calls out there for the an i polg to acknowledge it and now seeing that come to fruition, some might say, why not rip the band-aid off earlier? >> she probably should have. i've been a believer there is not a lot to this story and the most of it is the way the campaign and mrs. clinton handled it. i give her credit for stepping forward now making clear she should have done this differently. apologizing. but i think the big day for her, the big part of the day for her the response to the iranian deal and laid out how to behave as president. the campaign and the idea of the presidency and i believe the reality of her presidency is strengthened when you think of big things, big challenges, big things to be managed and why democrats like her. she is competent, she is able to see clearly when complicated things are presented to her. i hope this is a new day in the campaign to talk about her thinking about iran, the middle east, and her thinking of income inequality, health care, energy, the minimum wage and how we improve the education system. >> a different side of hillary clinton than we have seen as part of this reboot. appearing on the ellen degeneres show, with our andrea mitchell. you were about to say something? >> i hope they stop saying she's going to do certain things and do it. i think there's truth -- >> do you think it's tough? having a reboot and now see more of -- >> her humor and warmth and joy. >> do they have to say it? >> look. i spent a little time with her over the august summertime and saw her speak on a few different occasions and she was better and better each time. she not only was warm and humorous but she was sincere talking about the grandchild, how it's focused her about the future of the country and the politics and policies we need. i want to see more of that. i think the more the country sees about that, seeing it, i think will not only resonate and connect with voters and raise the poll numbers. >> also the cloud of the e-mail controversy as we have seen. you got the benghazi hearings coming up, also. >> i look forward to. i think she has an opportunity to sit before that committee in the open and answer questions, again, for a second time. she's already been before the committee and i think the american people have pretty much settled on it. a few members have not. she is right to go before that committee. >> and then you have that and the fbi investigation into the e-mails. so with this cloud still there, will the grayness kind of turn as far as this cloud looming over her or is this going to be continual damage even with the apology to continue to follow her? >> if you look at some of the polling, democrats still view her favorably. 3 out of 4 democrats do. she's in a position better than anybody else talking about running or running. >> bernie sanders on the side surging and joe biden. >> but their numbers have not eclipsed hers yet. look at the standings side by side with republicans, winning or within the mar injure or error. this has taken a toll. anyone that suggests it has not is not telling the truth but we get a different hillary clinton, rebooted campaign an all i ask is not say it. just let her do it. she is great getting out on the trail and again she is best in positions like today explaining to the american people a big complicated issue, why she believes what she believes and she helped sway me this morning because i would vote for this deal if i were in the senate today. i would not have voted for it yesterday. >> others may be swayed like you are. >> thank you for having me. >> nice to have you here. developing right now, nbc's lester holt just interviewed two of the three survivors of the massacre at mother emanuel. let's listen to this just in to nbc. >> we were just about to say the prayer to be released. and he caught us with our eyes closed. i remember my son saying, mama, he shot me in the head. >> your granddaughter was with you? >> yes. and i was telling my son, i said, just -- just lay here. just lay here. but he was still talking to me and i said, just lay here. and my granddaughter was hollering his name. she was so afraid. and i was trying -- i was trying to keep everybody close to me as calm as i could. >> the only other survivor is 11-year-old granddaughter and watch the rest of that later today on the nbc nightly news with lester holt. check your local listings and you will be able to see it then. still ahead at this hour -- >> these people have rallied and you are a strong people. >> a defiant kentucky clerk out of jail planning to return to work. and still refusing to issue marriage licenses. could she go back behind bars? i'll speak with mike huckabee's adviser about the visit with davis. and then, caitlyn jenner one on one with matt lauer. what she says about facing a possible manslaughter charge. plus, united airlines ceo steps down amid a federal investigation. did he exchange flights for favors? 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her deputy clerk says no matter what she does, he'll continue to issue them. nbc's gabe gutierrez spoke with one of her attorneys. >> what i know right now is what she has told the court and everyone else and that is that she will not under any circumstances violate her conscience and the core of who she is. >> joining me now is hogan g idley. hogan, thank you for being with us. governor huckabee attended the rally yesterday with senator ted cruz and appeared on "morning joe" this morning. here's what he said. >> the big question is, did the judge overreach and do exactly what i've been warning about which is judicial tyranny by putting this woman in jail rather than trying to figure out a way to give her some accommodation so she didn't have to affix her name to a marriage license to which she objected. >> hogan, you have this situation and kim davis is sticking firm to her believes and the debate surrounding that. but also, governor huckabee running for president. so is he using kim davis and the situation to his advantage as a political football? >> absolutely not. i mean, this is all about religious freedom. something under attack, something we have been talking about for years. governor huckabee did that in 2008 and the talk show on fox news and doing it today and seeing this brought to bear. people are being persecuted for their religious beliefs and not just the christian. that is victory not for mike huckabee or kim davis but for all americans. the muslims, the jews, everyone is persecuted some point under this particular law and rule and what is going to happen and we're going to have to eventually see a piece of legislation. we understand that the supreme court has made its ruling. we understand that. absolutely. but it said that in kentucky this particular law for male and female marriage is unconstitutional limited to that. it had to broaden the scope. the inverse is legally true and there is no law on the books saying that two men, two women can marry. that's the issue here. sooner or later, someone has to pass a law. congress will have to do its job and come out of the shadows and get something done on this piece of legislation because there is no law, no governing authority saying she has the right to issue the licenses. only the kentucky constitution which clearly says that only a man and only a woman can marry each other. >> what's happening is this line continues to get blurred, moved. where is that line drawn when it comes to somebody invoking the religious beliefs and you say, you know what? if somebody is on, you know, the third or fourth marriage and i'm looking for a marriage license, who, you know, from somebody that believes that you should only be married once and a person married three or four times can they invoke that religious beliefs and deny me one? >> well, that's codified in law. no, they can't. this is the dirty little secret. congress is abdicated the responsibility here. the point is congress makes the laws, not the supreme court. this is going to continue happening. this is the tip of the iceberg and sooner or later the mohammed sexual movement, the christian movement, the jewish movement will say, congress, you need to write a law to settle this once and for all. this is no such law and that's the main problem here and congress will be happy to fight and run obamacare and the president when he's overreached on doma, not enforcing doma, immigration. using the pen as a cell phone. no problem rushing to the podium and the microphone and chanting about that and causing all kinds of disturb bns and here they're not saying a word. they don't want to be on record. that's the problem. >> i wish we had more time to hear how that law as you're saying would be worded how they would get started. wish we had more time. hogan, thank you very much. >> sure. god bless. more than three months since caitlyn jenner made the public debut and in the time since she's received both praise and criticism. recently jenner hit the links with nbc's matt lauer in an exclusive two-part interview on the "today" show and including the manslaughter charges that could land her behind bars. >> even as you've been going through transition, dealing with something else. back in february you were involved in a traffic accident. >> right. >> that resulted in a woman dying. >> uh-huh. >> what do you remember about the accident? 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was this united airlines coming up with this as an inducement to try to get david sampson to do something for them or david sampson using the leverage as the chairman of the port authority to tell or to strongly hint to united airlines they should be doing this or a combination of both? it remains to be seen where this is going. >> either way it is damning. united airlines, the ceo also too a senior executives under there in this shake-down and huge overall with the scope and you can imagine with bribes, payoffs, there can be other officials. >> exactly. united as an internal investigation of this a few months ago and saying the resignations yesterday, not just the ceo, two other top level people at united. this is in response to that investigation. now, the other aspect of this, too, there's a very generous sort of severance package and contingent of him not being prosecuted, not being convicted. >> steve, very quickly. can this seep into the chris christie camp? >> absolutely. he's known as one of the closest confidants in politics, a relationship back some time. she vouched for him publicly. he's talked about him as general sampson. so if that does turn into -- we don't know if it will but a criminal prosecution of sampson that's happening as the presidential race heats up. >> all right. a lot to watch. we'll be watching and you will, as well. thank you. still ahead, donald trump, ted cruz, and sarah palin join forces today. do you think trump has credibility on foreign policy issues? 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they know it and if they don't know it i'm telling them right now. >> joining me from capitol hill is nbc's katy tur who just spoke to trump and trump earlier said that never in my life have i seen a deal negotiated so incompetently. what more did he have to tell you? >> reporter: it's the strong rhetoric an how to get the four prisoners back, he hasn't explained that. he just says that he knows that he'll be able to get them become and so does iran. able to speak with him and coming off the stage i asked him if he thinks that this is a bit pointless seasons the deal looks like it's didn't. here's what he had to tell me. >> seems like it's a done deal. >> it is because we have stupid people and incompetent people running our operation. it is disgraceful but it's a done deal. it looks like. it's hard to believe that people can vote -- anybody that voted for this deal we should vote them out of office so fast they don't deserve to be in office. >> reporter: what about the migrant issue in europe? >> terrible. from a humanitarian standpoint it's terrible. we have tremendous problems in this country. we have to secure our own border. we have tremendous problems in our country. >> reporter: now, i also asked supporters out here at this rally whether or not this is a hopeless rally to be at at the moment. they say they hope it is not and be able to convince the wavering democrats to vote no. ted cruz said he hopes the democrats to vote yes or those potentially undecided will pray that they will vote that they will vote with their conscience and not vote for the deal and looks like it is a done deal and gathering right now and this rally at the moment at least seems to be a lot of political grandstanding. francis? >> yeah. senator cruz in the plea to democrats said the most important vote that they'll have, cast in their career. katy, thank you very much. donald trump and the comments on the iran nuclear deal, this's the focus of the bing pulse question today. we're asking you, do you think trump has credibility on foreign policy issues? we are standing at 25% of those that said yes. that's dropped a little bit. now it is jumped to the 70s as far as those who believe no. this is the graph that shows how you're voting in realtime. just in the past couple of minutes hearing that report of katy tur and most of the votes dipping down to no. pulse.msnbc.com. on now to this. it's a moment we have been waiting for here coming to late night especially. stephen colbert's first show as host of "the late show." >> hello, nation. folks, i don't know what that means. if i knew you were going to do that, i would have come out here months ago. >> colbert's first show was big production, flashy, big name cameos and a few indulgences and wasted no time catching up on the donald trump news he's missed over the summer. >> nabisco closes a plant they announced in chicago a couple of days ago and then they're moving the plant to mexico. now, why? why? >> i'm never eating oreos ever, ever. >> swearing off oreos. okay? he claims, he claims that mexico is taking our economy. and they're ripping it in two. and they're -- scraping out the creamy center and then they're dunking it in milk. hmm. oh. oh god. >> all right. so if you watched him, how did he do? 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that's true. the president has won temporarily. but believe me. if i take over, it will be a whole different ball game. things like this will never happen and this deal will be changed. the problem is we still have our prisoners over there. they never even asked for them or spoke to them about getting them back. we have our prisoners over there. we've given $150 billion. you see the kind of crowd we have. i announced two days ago. you look at the crowd. it is amazing. people are so fed up. they don't know what they're doing. >> you don't want to go into the details? >> absolutely not. i'm not telling the other side what i want to do. and that's part of the problem in this country. everybody tells what they're going to do. obama does a raid. we'll raid in two weeks. general douglas mcarthur, general george patton would spin in the grave if they saw what we're doing as a country. this is one of the most incompetent deals ever done and i'm not even talking about country to country. i'm talking about a deal itself. we get nothing. they get everything. and it shouldn't happen. >> that was donald trump talking to our political reporter kasie hunt moments ago, trump doubling down on the opposition at a rally on capitol hill and bringing you more coming up in our next hour. now switching gears to something we are bringing you closer the home tomorrow co-an author a special growing hope show from the bronx and tell you about the new and exciting opportunities happening there, but first, i took a trip to the bronx last week to learn more about the history and right now the old bronx borough courthouse is boarded up, abandoned. not for long. an exciting effort to bring the bronx's famous sounds back home. >> you know, the rap, catch that beat. >> yep. >> oh yeah. you got it. oh, oh. >> reporter: unmistakable sound of hip hop runs through the vains of big scoop, aka johnny fresh. >> it's the clothing, the dance, the way you talk, how you act, how do you feel. just hip hop is just in the air. >> reporter: and in the blood of new york city. >> the bronx is the birthplace of hip hop. >> reporter: welcome to the bronx. where renaissance is surging through the streets and taking this 100-year-old courthouse boarded up for 40 years by storm. >> it's a knife edge. >> reporter: "gotham" shot here and art show. what about hip hop? life style and attitude of hip hop. >> under one roof. you're going to make a tear come out my eye. >> reporter: hip hop is woven into the fabric of the bronx which is why some in the community want to see the old, abandoned courthouse as the new home of the hip hop museum. just one step of a very welcomed renaissance. >> the lingo, the poetry, the expression. >> reporter: he knows a thing or two about it. the president of the universal hip hop museum leading the charge with hopes to bring it to the courthouse permanently tie culture of hip hop has always been about using our voice to uplift people and this will serve as a project to uplift the community as a whole. >> reporter: in the south bronx, the neighborhood that paved the way, people are welcoming the idea with open arms. >> i grew up on hip hop. you know? and to bring that in our community, that's phenomenal. >> i feel like it's a great thing to bring it back to the roots. >> how could we not have a hip hop museum in the bronx? 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