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Billion in tariffs. Iran is a country that is not the same as it was two and a half years ago when i came into office. We made a ridiculous deal, gave them 1. 8 billion and got nothing. The other was in ukraine having to do with a certain section of ukraine that you know very well where it was sort of taken away from president obama. Not taken away from President Trump. Takeaway from president obama. It was very embarrassing to him. And he wanted russia to be out of the, what was called the g8. That was his determination. So heres the problem. Every single one of the things the president said there was either wildly mischaracterized or demonstrably false. Before the g8 we were talking about the president weve got new drama on the flipflopping on things like 2020 democratic race. Guns and tax cuts and china, but two backtoback polls are writing very different narratives about where the race this seems to be a dual problem. Stands right now. No Clear Strategy to deal with showing pretty much the status these problems. He flipflops on so many of quo in one case but the other them. But the foundation of the with a pretty stunning shift among the frontrunners. Decision making, if there was any, would be flawed because he Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and joe biden now in a doesnt have the facts straight in every case. Virtual tie. That same poll from monmouth so substantively speaking, how university is also a qualifier does the white house work toward for the next debate. Solving these problems . The cutoff is just 48 hours the white house lets the from now. Only ten have qualified. President work it out. Thats always been clear that so more of the democratic this is the president driving the policy, the strategy, and democrats will be watching that debate from the sidelines. The tactics. You know, its true of not just joining me to break down the china. Its true of north korea, true of iran. Its true of when the president latest numbers nbc National Works with congress. Political correspondent steve kornacki. He is liable to do anything in help us out with this because they are very different. Any given meeting and change in pick your poll pick your one direction versus another. Narrative depending which candidate you like. As it relates to china you can choose which poll you traditional diplomacy and i think if there is one thing like. If you dont like joe biden or weve learned at this white you do like Elizabeth Warren or house, this is not a traditional white house, is you let lower Bernie Sanders the monmouth poll level officials hammer out details then you get to came out yesterday afternoon. Biden not even in first place Technical Levels and maybe go up to an assistant secretary level with this one. You look at some of the key groups and you see the floor and ultimately the president kind of falling out for joe biden in this poll. Formalizes. Here the process is reversed. The president is doing all the among liberals hes been negotiating whether public or struggling. Private. He is going back and forth. No surprise he continues to in this poll. Among moderates in this monmouth and normally you dont get the president involved toward the poll biden barely leading. End to preserve the president s hes been cleaning up among ability to cut a deal to moderates in other polling and then also this. Preserve his negotiating space. The president , this president age. The Democratic Party basically has the unique approach that he half the electorate is 50 or just changes his positions. Older. Thats how he thinks he biden has been consistently leading with those voters and he preserves his negotiating space. Does in this monmouth poll but you know, that 68minute press conference we actually learned among democrats under 50, quite a bit about the monmouth didnt just have biden president s real strategy and falling behind. That is that he thinks he can do they had him falling down to 6 tied with andrew yang. Anything. He liesks tkes the chaos, keepi that is the recipe for falling down to 19 in the poll. Opponents, his enemies, whatever but then you mention a few hours he is going to call them the one after the monmouth poll what comes out . Moment great leaders the next enemies. He likes the unpredictability. The morning console poll, weekly that is the strategy he is tracking poll, online poll. Driving at and the rest of the larger sample size. White house, they just have to stay along for the ride and try to provide the president the there you go. Joe biden back to the lead, a information he may need whichever direction he is going doubledigit advantage. What happens when you get polls to ultimately go. That are kind of all over the chris . Hans nichols, thank you for place with this . Maybe the best thing to do is that. We want to dig deeper. Turn to the poll average. Brett stevens is an op ed all of the different polls out there, average them together. Columnist with the new york give you a sense of where the times and my guest is a race might stand. Joe biden if you average them republican strategist. Do you think the g7 and in all together right now in the real clear politics average he particular that 68minute news is at 28 . Conference, one thing about this Bernie Sanders sitting at 17 . President , he is accessible. He talks. And Elizabeth Warren, her he answers questions. Do you have any more clarity average is 16 . So you got two sort of extremes about how the United States is here. Probably the truth of the moment lies somewhere in the middle. Steve kornacki, thank you. We want to break this down. Going to deal with niece pressing problems . Let me bring in david weigel i do. I know the United States will not be able to deal with these political reporter for the washington post, Jonathan Arthur columnist at the daily pressing problems based on the beast and msnbc political president s lack of leadership on the global stage. We did not see American Leadership at this g7 because analyst. The president does not know how there was a quick pushback on the monmouth poll. To lead. As hans was talking about i know you saw it from the biden typically a leader has a vision and his people, the people who camp. Even if this is an outliar does work for him would strive to it show the danger of hanging meet that vision. This president doesnt. Your campaign on electability . All he does is have chaos. The first time you get a bad he thinks whatever he says goes. He is not working toward poll or eventually lose a primary as will almost certainly solutions. Hes working toward reelection. Happen your very premise is thats all it comes down to for undercut . I think the way you set it up him now. You know, there is an old is correct. There are actually two of the paradigm that it is important to three campaigns were discussing distinguish the signal from the who talk a lot about polls. Noise. I think a lot of people the Sanders Campaign put out an image shortly after the monmouth especially on the right have poll was released showing a big been saying ignore trumps red bar with 20 him in first noise. Theres always a signal, a real meaning, an intention, there is a direction. Place and a smaller bar with and i think what we learned from this press conference if we hadnt learned it before is that the noise is the signal. Warrens 20 and bidens 19 . Two campaigns are writing what it is all noise, all a strategy people call the poller coaster. Of incoherence largely driven by at the moment warrens campaign the fathers day that frequently is avoiding talking about the the president simply doesnt know what hes talking about. Weekly numbers for the dynamic steve just described. In one day two different you saw that most clearly when he was blaming obama for methods, two different sample sizes, different results. They are focused more on iowa russias seizure of crimea in 2014 and then the invasion of not talking about numbers. Eastern ukraine. The Biden Campaign does talk a its important to ask yourself, lot about numbers and the bernie okay. If this guy wasnt the campaign does in part because they feel he has been president , if he was just some guy you met at an airport bar disrespected as somebody who and he was talking to you this consistently leads donald trump in trial heats and is not way, youd say, all right. Covered that way. Nice seeing you. Got a flight to catch. Their polling coverage is kind youd understand that youre of a rebellion against the media speaking to someone incoherent. But because we assign sort of coverage. The Biden Campaign leans into meaning to everything he says, it. This is why they were so you think, oh, theres got to be defensive yesterday when for the a strategy. There is none. First time a suggestion that he it is all coming out of is falling back the last month of the campaign. I think when you look down at what is his obsession with the numbers the monmouth poll barack obama and this idea the age divide is fascinating. Barack obama was embarrassed so obviously joe biden has to thats why we have the situation figure out how to appeal to we have with crimea . I mean, look. Younger voters if he is going to have a significant, long, strong you could just see it. I thought one of the awkward campaign. Moments of that 68 minutes or having said that a tremendous amount of support among young actually prior to that was when people for Elizabeth Warren and the president was trying to make Bernie Sanders, who are 70 the point he was kept informed every step of the way about the decision to invite zarif in to and pleaseand 77 years old so this is not an ageist thing. What does biden have to do . He has to retool his message have conversations and you heard what macron says. A little bit because every time i made the decision then i trump goes down in the polls, informed him. But what do you do if youre one biden has trouble. Of these other World Leaders . Because it makes it seem as if i mean, it seemed like they were trying to keep him from blowing other candidates can also beat up the summit but is that enough . Trump. His calling card is i mean, can the world afford to electability. Thats not going to be enough for him. Operate without the u. S. There i think its becoming clear. He has to develop a better to lead . I think at this point a lot message of where he would take of the World Leaders are saying, all right. The country. Do we have 18 months of this or and thats going to be a challenge for him. It is an even bigger challenge do we have over fave yeaive yea than surviving these debates, which has been a little bit of a question for him. To me the big story out of all this . If we have 18 months maybe we can distract him with a ball and these polls is that it may be let him play in the yard and we shaping up right now and this can do our work and pencil can change as a threeperson together something that allows the g 6 if you will to operate race. Biden, warren, and sanders. And they have to come to and of those three, the most decisions but macrons choice of interesting right now to me is words, to say, i decided, was i warren. Shes the one who seems to be think the start of something throwing heat to use a baseball were going to see from a lot of term out on the campaign trail. Leaders. They cant rely on the United States because they cannot rely 12,000 in minneapolis. They had to change the venue in on President Trump, so they seattle. Are they must stand up. There were so many enthusiastic it also doesnt hurt them people. Many of them young. Politically because trump is so and this takes you back a little unpopular in a lot of countries bit to the obama phenomenon in in europe right now. He doesnt seem to recognize the summer of 2007. This intensity is very important that. It does look as though he is in these primary campaigns. Going back on a lot of Different Levels to his 2016 playbook. So biden doesnt have a lot of if it worked then its going to work now. What i sold in 2016 was im this intensity. He has to get some to win. Great deal maker so im going to the other thing i think when you look at it people who are stand here and talk about what a left and on the debate stage great deal maker i am. Except for joe biden are pretty i just want to play a little example of that. Much progressive. He is the one moderate candidate. If you add his poll number it comes from the back and versus everybody else who seems forth and the changing of to be interested in a statements from yourself. Progressive, you do wonder if, sorry. Lets Say Something happens with its the way i negotiate. The economy, if trump starts to is that a strategy . Look more vulnerable, if people is it a strategy to call president xi an enemy one day who believe the electability and then say relations are very argument start to feel a little good the next day . Freer to maybe go with the yeah no, no. Candidate that they like more. Its the way i negotiate. Its done very well for me over right. To the electability argument the years and is doing even its a little bit like trump better for the country. I mean, from a political using the stock market to gauge standpoint it worked in 2016, but people have had a chance to his success in office. See exactly what you say, bret, when you are living and dying by the poll numbers, when youre how the noise continues to just bidens campaign and you see the poll that came out yesterday by be the noise. Can it work in 2020 . Monmouth that put you at a dead heat with the other two, that is i mean, what his strategy a scary thing. So you do need to worry about of negotiation led to successive how to define yourself and break bankruptcies and i think his out from it. The other campaigns we see have approach to diplomacy is leading to americas moral bankruptcy if momentum. Biden has just stayed flat. You can extend that analogy. Hes betting i think that there there may be one way in which it will be a different turn out really is in keeping with his number in the primaries more 2016 message, which is that similar to 2018 and an offyear trump knowingly or not is election so he will have the working toward the dissolution majority of the over 50 voters of what we used to call the free that tend to come out. World or the western world. And that theyre more moderate the g7 is not just an alliance to conservative democrats. Of industrialized nations but of so thats what hes trying to the most important democratic kind of hold, rely on. Nations. By the way, thats important to but he needs something to start underscore now that trump has made it so clear that against moving his message forward his own political interests hes because everyone else has desperate to bring russia back something. Theyre building on one issue into the fold. Whether Climate Change or healthcare or something. That is to say to make it a club joe biden is just saying, me. For autocracies as well. That doesnt seem to work. The fact is the president dave, i think, look. Seems to want to make deals but you can argue about how he may need to make deals as part of his 2020 strategy. Significant the numbers in the monmouth poll are but i think what is clear is that the loser but he seems to not understand is tom steyer who is really the fact that president xi is hoping to get that one more poll not running for reelection. That would qualify him for the hes never going to be running debate stage. For reelection. So now weve got ten people who donald trump needs to run for are on it. Reelection. If there are economic maybe. Consequences in china, xi we dont know. Is there going to be another doesnt pay a political price poll out that qualifies him . For that. Donald trump potentially will. But ten people for sure are not going to be on that debate what deals, chris . Stage, almost certainly. Nafta 2. 0 has not been ratified how tough is it . Even if you have a pocketbook like tom steyer, he can yet. He never got a deal on healthcare. Selffund his campaign, how he has not achieved anything tough is it to keep any of these through a deal making strategy. You can see he did get the tax campaigns afloat without the exposure of a debate . Cuts for businesses, but he did are we going to see people that with a Republican House and dropping out pretty quickly . Weve already begun to see republican senate. So i have not seen his deal this. I think there will be a conversation once its official making on display in any shape or form. If anything, hes his style that this debate stage is set for some of the campaigns that has hurt the ability to do deals with the democrats and get things done for this country. Have struggled to raise money. You need to be struggling with but what his style has been is to blame other people and make fundraising and not on stage. Other people the bogey man so thats when he cant do he now he is willing to spend more. Does Hillary Clinton when hes his issue seems to be just more having a Campaign Rally and he of the average enthusiasm. Does barack obama when hes in some kind of president ial the california meeting of the dnc he came on stage and takes situation. He just keeps projecting their about six seconds to cross the stage. Names as if thats going to help the applause is dead by the time he got to the microphone. Him in 2020. It will not. What helped him in 2016 was the whole concept and the firm belief by a majority of hes not entlahralled a lot of americans that the system was democratic voters yet. With the exception of tulsi broken. Washington was broken. And we havent heard much from gabbards campaign, you dont republicans on a lot of these see the same fits about being issues, frankly. Excluded from the debate stage they certainly havent in the campaigns because the contradicted the president grass roots support is with except we did hear from senator those candidates in the first tom cotton who wrote an oped supporting the president s pitch ten. Thanks to all of you. To buy greenland. Quote, the acquisition of much appreciated. Coming up the watch dog greenland would secure vital Strategic Interests for the agency that oversees and United States, economically protects financing of our benefit both us and the National Elections is greenlanders, and would be in essentially shutting down. Keeping with american and danish well tell you why and what it could mean ahead of 2020. Diplomatic traditions. Help u quit slow turkey. Bret, we have a trade war going on with china. We have a global threat from the along with support, fires in the amazon. Chantix is proven to help you quit. 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But what you now have is a get the lowest price guaranteed on all Choice Hotels president who even when he has sort of wild but plausibly okay when you book direct at choicehotels. Com. Ideas, cant execute them because nobody trusts him. Its the destruction of american credibility that makes every plan, whether its plausible or not, come to nothing. I just want to add one thing on the tom cotton thing. Obviously he is looking for a cabinet position from donald trump. This is how people audition. There are a lot of acting positions in the cabinet. He likes acting positions. All right. Bret, i have to ask you. Because theres a lot of buzz about this. You deactivated your twitter account after a controversy that involved someone calling you a name. Would you like to comment on that . Yeah. Im going to be careful with my words because i know these are going to be examined carefully. So i think twitter brings out the worst in its users. It tends to bring out the worst in its users. Yesterday a professor at George Washington university described me as a bed bug or metaphorical bed bug just in the context of the New York Times having a bed bug problem in our building. I think that kind of rhetoric is dehumanizing and totally unacceptable no matter where it comes from. So i wrote him a personal email. I didnt go to twitter. I wrote a personal email, which i think was very civil, saying that i didnt appreciate it. I would welcome him to come to my home in new york, meet with my family, and see if he would on a scale of one to five . Call me a bed bug to my face wait. One to five . Because a lot of the things when it comes to feelings, people say on social media arent the things theyre really its more like five million. Theres everything from happy prepared to say in oneonone to extremely happy. Interactions. I also copieis on the theres also angry. Im really angry, clive actually, really angry. Note. People are upset about this. Thank you. And seat 36b angry. I want to be clear. I had no intention whatsoever to youre clive owen. And youre barefoot. Get him in any kind of yeah. Theres also apprehension. Professional trouble, but it is the case that the New York Times and other institutions. Regret. That people should be aware,. Relief. Oh and theres empathy. Managers should be aware of the way in which their people, their ah, i got this in zurich actually, whats the opposite of empathy . Professors or journalists interact with the rest of the but what if your business could understand what your customers are feeling. World. Thats certainly the case with and then do something about it. Me at the New York Times, my you can turn disappointment into gratitude. Editors are always aware of what clive, you got to try this. Im saying and ive sometimes i cant im working. Been called to account, rightly turn problems into opportunities. Thanks drone. Change the future of your business. So. He then posted my email on change the whole experience. Twitter so people are free to go and look at what i had to say. Alright who wants to go again . I do i do all i would say is that using dehumanizing rhetoric like bed bugs or, you know, analogizing i have a really good feeling about this. People to insects, is always wrong. We can do better. We should be the people on social media that we are in real life. I would agree with that final statement for sure. It is time for money, power, is that the worst thing that you have ever been called on social politics. We are 433 days away from what media . Theres a bad history of will be one of the most hotly being called, being analogized contested, contentious elections in our lifetime. To insects that goes back to a by the end of this week the lot of totalitarian regimes in federal Election Commission is the past. Effectively shutting down. Ive been called worse. I wrote this guy a personal the fec investigates campaign note. Its out there for everyone to see. Bret stephens thank you for financial violations things like letting us hear that. Accepting contributions that susan, always great to see you exceed campaign limits, failure as well. Right now, puerto rico is on misusing campaign funds. Hurricane watch as tropical the vice chairman matthew storm dorian barrels toward that peterson has announced his island. The storm expected to hit early resignation which leaves just three commissioners. There are supposed to be six. Thursday morning and then strengthen on its way to and the legal minimum to operate the fec is four. Now were in a situation where florida. Morgan chesky is already in the fec cannot conduct meetings, puerto rico with the latest. Cant issue fines, make new what is happening on the ground . Rules, conduct audits, or vote preps under way . On the outcomes of reporter yes. Absolutely so. Investigations. They cant even offer official i can tell you a state of emergency has been issued for advice to politicians or political committees. Puerto rico but you definitely wouldnt know it from the vibe joining me now is federal here on the beach in san juan. Politics editor and Senior Reporter with the center for still plenty of people behind me push li on the beach enjoying this sunny day. As for the locals theyre definitely not taking any push public integrity. Chances. We were there yesterday to go by stores that were busy with people loading up on all the what kind of effect could this necessities. Runs on water, ice, and have on campaigns in 2020 . Especially generators. A profound effect. The fec was set up after everyone i spoke to when i asked what is your biggest concern watergate to basically be a cop ahead of Tropical Storm dorian on the beat for Campaign Money if and when it moves on to the and making sure democrats and island, they said, power. Republicans both were playing by because it wouldnt take much to the rules. Well, the station is still going knock out power, not just for to be there so to speak. Parts of san juan but especially the Police Officers are going to show up and do their paperwork. Those vulnerable rural areas. But if anyone is calling in an many of which are still struggling to recover from emergency the fec wont have the Hurricane Maria, which was two ability to really heed the call years ago. Keep in mind, something until President Trump and the important to note, everyone u. S. Senate act to get a new knows Tropical Storm dorian definitely doesnt have the commissioner or multiple makings of Hurricane Maria which commissioners in and serving. You report that this roared ashore as a category 4. Shouldnt come as a surprise to if it hits puerto rico it would anyone who follows these kinds of things. Be a category 1. Its been two years in the however, even with the lesser mat happened . Winds a lot of these outlying places are still in such a what got us here . Ultimately, its been weakened condition from Hurricane Maria with those fema multiple president s, george w. Bush, barack obama, and donald blue tarps as roofs that they may just have a little wind to trump who havent really paid the fec as much attention as suffer a lot of damage in this some folks to. Area. So for the people who are in the ultimately, youve got the know, theres a lot of concern with the arrival of dorian commissioners who are still expected sometime later today or there, four of them remaining, one leaving in a couple days. Theyve served 37 years later tomorrow or even thursday. Collectively past the expiration much appreciated. Of their terms. Thank you for the update. They should have been replaced a long time ago. Up next its being called a theyve stayed because nobody has been appointed to replace blockbuster ruling against one drug company at the center of them. The opioid crisis. And in the interim, the how significant is it really . President s who nominate new fec where will the money from that commissioners just simply havent done so. So the ball is in Donald Trumps half billion Dollar Settlement go . Plus, a new poll has court right now. There is one active nominee Elizabeth Warren, bernie whos been around for about two sanders, and joe biden in a years. The senate hasnt even given him three way tie, but team biden a confirmation hearing. And a brand new poll this and now were in a situation where the fec just simply morning suggest maybe not so fast. Doesnt have enough commissioners as you mentioned to do business. They cant even conduct official so, every day, meetings. Of course this comes on the we put our latest technology heels of the Mueller Report and unrivaled network to work. Which affirmed russian interference in the 2016 the United States Postal Service makes more election. 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Joining me now nbc News Senior National correspondent kate snow who has covered the countrys sfx upbeat music a lot of clothes you normally take to the cleaners arent dirty dirty. Growing Opioid Epidemic and they just need a quick refresh. Try new febreze clothing quick dry mist. Nbcs medical correspondent dr. John torres and the oklahoma it eliminates odors and refreshes lightlyworn clothing. Attorney general mike hunter. Good to have you all here this breathe happy febreze. Morning. Kate, lets start with the big la la la la la. Picture because youve been on the front lines reporting on this epidemic. Tell us about this ruling. This was the first case to go forward against a large drug manufacturer that would go to trial and this is the judge ruling and saying, Johnson Johnson was in part responsible for the Opioid Epidemic. They got less. They got a fine of less than the 17 billion that prosecutors and the attorney general had wanted. That a handle is just a handle. Chair is just a chair. 500 plus Million Dollars is still a fairly large sum. And so for those on the side of or. That you cant be both inside and outside. The prosecutors, they consider this a huge victory. Most people havent driven a lincoln. It could have a lot of its the final days of the lincoln summer invitation event. Implications, chris, for what happens next because there are right now get 0 apr on all lincoln vehicles thousands of suits now filed against manufacturers and plus no payments for up to 90 days. Distributors. Mr. Attorney general, im only at your lincoln dealer. Wondering what you hope will come out of this. There were harsh words in the judges ruling including calling Johnson Johnson pervasively, systematically, and substantially caused the Opioid Epidemic. But what in your mind does this ruling mean . Well, there were appropriately harsh words in the judges decision that were a product of the evidence and the we are Just Moments Away testimony that we provided to from federal Court Hearings him in this trial. Where multiple women are expected to tell their stories, first of all, the 4 million accusing Jeffrey Epstein of oklahomans who i represent are alleged Sexual Assault and my clients in this case. Harassment. I have an oath of office to the federal judge decided not to drop criminal charges against discharge my responsibilities as the chief Law Enforcement epstein as you certainly know he took his own life. Officer in a way thats more and more accusers are consistent with their interests. Coming forward. Maria and annie farmer first you know, when businesses do bad things and businesses are just talked about this in the 1990s like people, they do bad things, but recently interviewed by the New York Times and reporter its my responsibility, the michael baker. Responsibility of ags around the country to hold them responsible. In this case, Johnson Johnson acted in a way that was how many i mean, how many irresponsible, in many ways girls are we talking about that reckless with regard to the over are coming in for these hundreds, hundreds, hundreds, supply and convincing hundreds. Do you have a sense of their age . Prescribers that their opioid products werent really addictive. They did that systematically. They did that in a way that was 13, 14, 15. Calculated. They did that in a way that was late really. Motivated in my judgment by this is how they were. Avarice and greed. He would be driving along and he so this decision is welcome. Its, again, justified by the would say get that girl. Facts and the evidence. Its a strong message. Hopefully to the rest of the she has repeatedly denied country. And, hopefully, a strong message to the ceo of this company. He needs to take responsibility accusations made against her. Tom winter is at the courthouse for what this company has done for the hearing. For the last two decades and tom, what are we expecting to write a check to this state for hear today . Well, chris, i think a couple half a billion dollars plus so of things. That we can start getting a the first thing, and i think the handle on this epidemic. Thing we will hear the most today are the victims in this case. You were seeking 17 billion. And we may hear from up to 30 of them either directly speaking to you got 572 million. No one is going to scoff at more the judge and explaining what they went through, what they than half a billion dollars. Dealt with, or maybe perhaps having said that, the markets reacted as if this was positive, through their attorneys as well making statements on their less than was potentially expected in terms of a fine. Behalf. So i think that will be the most are you really hopeful on a very important part. That will be the longest part of todays hearing. In addition to that, it is realistic scale, do you believe totally possible that the judge that this is sending a strong here may ask questions of federal prosecutors as well as message . Jeffrey epsteins own defense i do. And the analysts that are attorneys about his death, the moments leading up to it. Providing advice about this so we might get more details decision being positive need to with that today. Go back to business school. So those will be the two main components of this hearing this decision stands for a, and scheduled by the judge. Represents a template for the the statements of the victims rest of the country for 50 states for the 2,000 plaintiffs will really represent victim in the mdl in cleveland. Impact statements, excuse me. So i think that its been basically these are the type of seriously misread. Statements we would get in but these companies, opioid sentencing where people detail the emotion of what they went manufacturers, their conduct was through, the trauma of what they went through. Because we dont have a trial in indivisible. Johnson johnson was the king this case, theyre going to be afforded that opportunity today. Pin. That was, again, a product of but i guess that does bring our research, our discovery. Me to my question, which is how they began this by buying a unusual is it to go ahead with a poppy farm down in australia and Court Proceeding when the person who was the target has died. Supplying 60 of the active well, it is pretty unusual, pharmaceutical ingredient for chris. This is something where these drugs for the rest of the typically the prosecutors file a Manufacturing Industry in this document. Country. There is no question that they it is called nole prosequi. Are responsible and the judges order, again, underscored their we will abandon this because the activity in a way that as far as individual is dead. There is no prosecution to go forward in this case. Were concerned establishes them the jump stamps it, signs off on as the culpable entity behind it and were done. But in this case judge berman all of this in our state. Understands the victims where so, again, that ceo needs to theyre coming from, the emotion of this case, and the fact that take responsibility for what his company has done, write the they havent had their check so we can start dealing opportunity of justice. They havent had an opportunity with our problems in oklahoma. For this to come to trial. So, dr. Torres, you spent it is quite unusual. But the judge understands your adult life in the medical perhaps he want to give this community. What do you think . Opportunity to finally speak and do you think this is sending a finally to be heard in court, strong message to both big chris. Tom winter, thanks so much. Pharma and to doctors who well be watching for your prescribe opioids . I do. I think it is sending a strong reports later on today. Coming up, actress lori lava message to everybody saying, hey, were taking notice right minute and her fashion now and not just notice but there are a lot of penalties designers house legal battle behind this notice. Over the college emissiao add m doctors have historically since the 2000s when this first schedule is taking a new turn. Started front line doctors have well tell you why the couple is constantly sent out messages heading back to federal court today. Ing back to federal court saying, hey. Something is going on. Today. music plays throughout we see a lot of addiction here. What is the issue . We were told especially in the beginning, no. This is not a problem. You are thinking incorrectly about this whole thing. What were finding now is it has a lot of the high addiction potential and the tide has turned to where its tougher to get these prescriptions out. More information is coming out showing how addictive they are so we are prescribing less and less of these. As far as pharmaceutical companies were hearing less messages from them as far as how addictive they might not be and theyre getting more information and education out there. Hopefully they get the message. Kate, youve spoken a lot with families who, no amount of money is going to bring back their husband, wife, son, daughter. Are they satisfied with the decision . Do they believe that this will help see that other families dont have to go through what theyve gone through . Yeah. Folks we spoke with yesterday in oklahoma who do who testified, who lost family members, a woman who fostered babies born dependent, they all said they are satisfied that this does send a signal. But as you say, i think, you know, no amount of money is going to heal this wound. At the same time, there are a lot of suits going on right now that could potentially help people. Somewhere in the neighborhood were pretty different. Of 2,000 . Somos muy diferentes. Muy diferentes. Yeah. vo everyone in your family is different. 2,000 by cities and smaller thats why verizon now offers more plans to mix and match jurisdictions that the attorney general just mentioned have been so everyone gets what they need without paying for things they dont. Lumped together in one multi new plans now starting at 35. Party litigation in cleveland. The network more people rely on gives you more. That is Going Forward in ohio with their first case. Separately, like oklahoma, there are 47 other states that have taken some kind of action. So its very possible now that another impact could be that the pharmaceutical Companies Start to settle some of these cases and get into giant settlements. Mr. Attorney general, i am literally out of time but if you could answer briefly, where does the money go . If you get the money, if and when you get the money because i assume there is going to be, i dont know, is there going to be an appeal of this . But whatever money comes out of this, who gets it . Were prepared for these appeals and were confident that this judgment is going to be supported on appeals. This money is going to go to prevention, education, but principally itll go to treatment, counseling, and rehabilitation for as many as a hundred thousand oklahomans who we believe are dealing with an addiction that is attributable to prescription opioids. Such an important story. I appreciate all of you coming in to talk about it. Coming up, two new and conflicting 2020 polls leaving us with a big question. Is joe biden really in a virtual tie with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren . Is the poll suggesting that just an outlier . 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