Basis to start putting people back to work. The Administration Says the decision will be up to individual governors but the president is already undercutting his message by telling virginia, minnesota, and michigan to liberate themselves. Today andrew cuomo called on the federal government to bail out the states which are seeing massive budget short falls in the wake of this crisis. The economic shutdown could leave states with a 500 billion deficit if washington does not provide continued relief. Good afternoon, im katy tur. With me as always is brian williams. Brian . Katy, thanks. We want to start with the sharp escalation of words between the president and the governor of new york. On twitter, the president criticized cuomo saying he should spend less time complaining. You may not have seen cuomos response because it came during the question and answer portion of his briefing earlier. We prepared for you now a large part of what he had to say. He said 11 times i dont want to get involved in testing. Its too complicated. Its too hard. I know its too complicated and its too hard. Thats why we need you to help. I cant do an International Supply chain. He wants to say well, i did enough. Yeah, none of us have done enough. We havent. Because its no over. So, yes, thank you for the javits and the u. S. Navy ship comfort. Its not over. We have a lot more to do. And no one can take the posture well just say thank you for what ive done and im now out. Im not doing anything else. Ive done my part. What if i said to the people of my state, okay. Im done. By the way, i saved hundreds of thousands of lives. I flattened the curve and created more hospital beds than anyone ever imagined. I coordinated the entire state. Im done. Im going home. I am going to see my mother and spend time with kids and go out fishing in connecticut because the marinas are open. Thats it, im done. Im done because testing is too hard. Its up to the states to do reopen. By the way, it was always up to the states. What are you going to grant me with a constitution gave me before you were born . Its called the 10th amendment. I dont need the president of the United States to tell me im governor and tell me the powers of a state. People did that. Alexander hamilton, thomas jefferson, james madison. They gave me the power. I dont need the president of the United States to read the constitution. Maybe he should have read the constitution before he said he had the power to open the states. He did a graceful 180 and many people allowed him to do the graceful 180. But he now says its up to the governors which he said repeatedly now. And now its up to the governors to reopen. Okay. Im going to reopen. I get it. And you dont want to help on testing which is a national problem. And replicates the same chaos you created with medical supplies because fema wasnt ready. By the way, i needed a stockpile . Where was your stockpile . 10,000 ventilators for the nation . That was your stockpile . Were your projections the federal projections said they would need double the Hospital Capacity of this nation. Think about that. The cdc says double the Hospital Capacity of the nation. The minimum projection was 2. 4 million hospital beds. You know how many hospital beds we have in this nation . 900,000. His projection says 2. 4 million hospital beds. The whole Hospital System is only 900 and his stockpile has 10,000 ventilators. You were ready with your stockpile . Didnt you read your own cdc projection . So thank you again, mr. President , for the javits. Thank you for the u. S. Navy ship comfort. Which by the way just doing your job as president. Thank you for that. Were not out of the woods. We have to go noeforward. We need help on testing and we need funding. Its up to the governors. Its up to the states. Well then provide the funding. We need to fund the Small Business program. But youre going to say after just saying this Monumental Task is up to the individual governors and the individual states . Im providing no help. No assistance, no financial money. I understand that Small Businesses need the funding. By the way, i know that Airlines Need a bailout. But not the states. Why dont you show as much consideration to states as you did to your big businesses. He said its up to the states. Thats what he said. If you say its up to the states and just hold up a big microphone that can listen to the governors, youll hear some governors say i can reopen right away. Some governors never had a serious problem. So if youre in a state that has a issue, yeah, then can you open up. Said its up to the states and governors which is what it always was because its the governors power. He said this is a 50 piece puzzle. No. Thats called the map of the United States. Its not a puzzle. The states have constitutional power. Remember, the way this whole thing starts, the colonies create the federal government. Not the other way around. The states have the power to open. The states are opening on their own time lines. Western states are coordinating, mid states are coordinating. All hes doing is walking in front of the parade. But he has nothing to do with the timing of the parade. The governors are going to open when they think they should open. All im saying is there is two things they need help from. They need help from the federal government. Two things. Help on testing. Help on testing. I dont want to redo the mayhem of the ppe debacle. Second point, we need funding to do it. The way you love talking about how funded everything, big businesses are getting bailed out, airlines are getting bailed out. Bailout, bailout, bailout, state governments doing the reopening, theyre going to need funding. Right . How many times do you want me to say thank you . This was your role as president , okay . So thats the honest statement of fact. Without politics, im not running for anything, i have no agenda but delivering for the people of this state and without ego. Thank you for participating in a federal responsibility in a National Crisis. Which you know is a National Crisis because he declared a federal emergency. So, thank you, for having the federal government participate in a federal emergency. And thank you for help building javits. 2500 beds pursuant to your projection. Your projection. And if you dont agree with your projection, fire the head of the cdc. Fire the task force people. Because they did the projections. In case he forgot or didnt read his cdc report, just to be precise, march 13th, march 13th so were well into it. Cdc says, 160 to 214 million americans infected. Thats over half the population. Cdc. 2. 4 million to 21 million americans hospitalized. 2. 4 million, bottom number, 21 million americans hospitalized. March 13th, the cdc. 2. 4, okay . Lets say the low number. 2. 4 to 21 which is a hell of a differential, right . Either 2. 4 or ten times 2. 4. Thank you for that great projection. But anyway. Lets take the minimum number, 2. 4. How many hospital beds do you have . 900. Call it a million. So its 2 1 2 times what your capacity is. Right . Were the state of new york. We have a 50,000 bed capacity. By their projections, what do we need . 150 th 150,000 beds. By the way, what did mckenzie say that we needed . 140,000 beds. They got it from the cdc. As it says on the screen, they got it from the cdc. Thats why we built beds at javits. Because we listened to you, mr. President. And if we were foolish for listening to you, then shame on us. So, katy tur, we should note we dont often air 11 straight minutes of an event that took place earlier. Fwhut but this is a governor of a state with more cases than any country aside from the United States. And a governor of a state Fact Checking the president of the United States on both the constitution and information that was given to him by the president s own administration. I noteded one line from this. I noted many. But here is just one of them. Why dont you show as much consideration to your states as did you to your big business, your airlines . Remember, states dont have an easy time running a deficit in the same way the federal government does. All but one state has rules on the books, meaning you have to have a balanced budget. When it comes to testing, weve been hearing this from everybody. There are not enough tests being done. You say it every day. 1 of the population has been tested. Yes, those tests were supposed to alleviate much of that and get more testing on the books. But theres not enough technical staff across the country to administer those tests. There is also a problem with the materials you need for all of the testing, the reagents. That comes from an International Supply chain. A lot of that comes from china and what you have there is Governor Cuomo saying to the federal government, we need your help with this. We cant get it as quickly as you do. Also, we dont want to be fighting on the market with both the federal government, other states, and other International Nations or other nations to get the materials we need. This benefits not just new yorkers, it benefits the entire country and thereby benefits this administration to get as much testing done as possible. Lets go to hans nichols. Hans, here are your two sides. This was as predictable as todays sunrise. You have Governor Cuomo and those like him on one side. On the other side, you have the president who just looking at his twitter feed this morning seems to want to start a kind of populist prairie fire forgetting at the moment were talking about a lethal virus. He has air support from fox news, oprahs two doctors, oz and phil. And hes listening to the constant feedback loop if his life and circle, mostly from the business community. We dont know if the president heard the entire 12 minute broadside from mario cuomo. Now this evenings briefing is supposed to be an update on testing. Where they are on all the different permutations. I suspect that most to have days briefing is the president responding to andrew cuomo. Andrew cuomo has all but called the president of the United States a parade master. Hes accused him of causing mayhem. Hes questioned his integrity, willingness to help his state. He is doing the minimum of what is required or responsible for the president of the United States. The president responded or the aleast in part on twitter. As you mentioned, he started off with the broad sides against the midwestern states. Its there where youre seeing some protests against the lockdown thats are in place and this idea you need to open up the economy which the president again has said is going to be up to the governors. At the same time, he is encouraging and fomenting dissent in the very states where there are democratic governors. But i think what he said about cuomo is stop talking. Guys, later on this afternoon the president is going to have phone call with religious leaders. I dont suspect the president will come out willing to turn the other cheek on mario cuomo. I suspect well have the beginning of a real war, a real war here between the two of them. Well see whether that stays verbal or gets into resources, ppe and what the next phase of this is. But this will get bigger response from this president if everything we know about this president up to this point where weve been accurate on. Guys . Hans, i know you mean andrew cuomo. Sometimes we all misspeak. My mistake. You went back and forth. You caught yourself once. Its interesting you say the president wants andrew cuomo to do something. Andrew cuomo said in response, if the president is watching so much tv to know that im on television, maybe he should be doing something. Hans nichols, thank you very much. Joining us now from the white house is the ebola czar during the obama administration, ron clane. It is really good to have you. You, more than anyone else, knows what the federal government can do in a situation like this. Andrew cuomo is begging for help when it comes to testing. Explain to us how the federal government can get involved . I think its important to understand that testing really is the key thing to getting our economy going again. Getting all the places reopened again f we dont know where the virus is or isnt, who has it or doesnt have it, all the efforts to start up again are going to wind up leading to more spread of the virus. Now the problem is, as you said before, testing is complicated. It involves not just a test kit but the supplies for that kit, the machine that reads the test, the chemicals, the socalled reagents that extract the material that has been tested that need to be processed. Some of the goods come from overseas. Some of the machines are very complicated. They need a lot of parts. And really only way to fix this testing problem is for the federal government and for the president to use an authority he has, the defense production act, to order the manufacture of the test and the parts, to buy them and then to get them where they need to be. The idea that he, as Governor Cuomo said, he asked him 11 times for help on this. This is the thing trump could do. I mean the irony is that president stands there and says i have absolute power over things he doesnt have power over and this is one where he does have the power and he doesnt want to use it. Ron, its depressing that were going to lose a day in the fight to a verbal and twitter war back and forth between the president and the governor of new york. Hans is absolutely right. We can lay out how todays briefing is going to go including some of the attack and talking points from the president. This notion of a prairie fire, red states versus blue in some cases. Populations in blue states against the governors who so far have been adept in handling this virus. I think the tweets from the president this afternoon liberate michigan, liberate minnesota, liberate virginia and get your Second Amendment rights going, you know, that kind of says, as you said before, brian, where this is headed. The president appears to be defaulting back to the populist instincts to the extent he was listening to the doctors around him, people like dr. Fauci, hes going back to stir up the base and cause problems. Raily fear that were good to see the most divisive month we have seen in a long time in this country. Red states and other states remain closed, they get to get real division about that. Is the disease spreading . Were seeing double digit increase in the disease in the past few days in places like oklahoma and south dakota, places in the heartland. The disease is really accelerating there, my home state of indiana. So peak day two days ago and then the cases went back up again. So were seeing massive increases in this disease throughout the country. You cant have a state by state solution at that level. People in those states will come to the blue states. So i just feel like this device in this that the president is launching is really going to get out of control and going to be bad for all of us. And put peoples lives in danger. Note the three states are three states the president needs to win to win reelection in november. So it seems very obviously politically motivated. How does that what does that mean for the rest of us, the states with governors who are are ready to reopen if we start seeing hot spots. Theyre bowing to pressure from the president s base. Thats great point. Obviously, were a connected country. Interstate highways take people from one part of the country to the other very hes lane quickly. Its no the that far from some of the states, the president was taunting to liberate today. To the states like new york. And so, you know, in the end, it is up to each governor to act. The consequence of failure of federal leadership on testing and preparing our medical system means question see this disease flair up badly and n. Place thats reopen too soon. We that talk about smoothing out the first crest of the cases only to see a second one come back over the summer. Ron klain, our thank you as always being willing and able to spend time and taking our questions. We greatly appreciate it. A break for us. Still to come, what weve been saying is the makings of a possible mess. The states calling their own shots on how and when to lift their lockdowns. Some are being more aggressive than others. We heard the president say yesterday, they could start as soon as today. For starters, well take you to texas where just the last hour the governor announced his plan to reopen Retail Stores as soon as next week. Then well head to the midwest. A handful of states including ohio and michigan are looking to slowly start opening some businesses by may 1st. Plus, were getting a valuable preview of what works and what doesnt work when trying to get back to that elusive normal. What some European Countries that were hit by this virus a couple weeks back are doing now. I just love hitting the open road and telling people that Liberty Mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need [squawks] only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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They will be able to go tomorrow, yes, because they met all the glinuidelines. Youre going back 14 days, youre going back a month. And they have the ones im thinking about, the ones ive already spoken to governors about, they met those guidelines actually pretty long ago. Now a handful of states including ohio and michigan are looking to slowly start reopening, some businesses by may 1. Experts warn its still maybe too soon. We have reporters in illinois and texas this afternoon. First to dallas. Garret, perhaps you can enlighten us, how is this going to work exactly . Brian, the governor of texas is also using a three phase standard here. The first phase starts pretty quickly here. He did announce today that schools in texas would remain closed for the remainder of the year and trying to tighten up restrictions on Nursing Homes. Theyre going to try to loosen in some others allowing some other medical procedures to take place at hospitals where they think they have the capacity to do a couple things at once. And starting next friday theyre going to move to a retail to go model in which stores will be able to reopen offering their services, their goods on a to go or delivery basis like weve seen with restaurants. The next couple of phases will be announceded on april 27th. Hell be guided by a strike force which in turn is guided by science. Heres how he xplauexplained th guidelines. The guidelines described by the president talk about in the next phase if if the data lines up is a possibility of going back to the standard that we had in texas before the stay at home standard which was encouraging people to stay at home but allowing people to gather in groups of ten or less. We would be able to move to that standard if the data shows that we are beginning to continue to reduce the number of people testing positive for covid19, showing that we are effective in containing the spread of covid19. All of this comes on the same day that Dallas County announced its highest number of positive tests yet, 124 and five additional deaths. There has been tension between the big cities in texas and the governor throughout this process. That will likely continue. St brian and katy, the missing piece in all this is testing. The governor says they need to ramp up testing. Most of the testing has to be done by private companies. Well see how that plays out over the next few weeks. Garret overlooking downtown dallas. Garret, thank you very much. Lets turn to chicago and nbc News Reporter shaquille brewster. Shaq, upper midwest, there was a protest near you relatively in michigan the other day. What are you expecting in the coming days from people that are tired of staying inside and want to take the president s twitter advice . In minnesota, youre seeing them protesting the stay at home orders in the state. What youre hearing is two different things. One, they want to focus on handling the immediate crisis. The state of illinois here yesterday had the deadliest day in terms of coronavirus deaths, 125 lives lost just yesterday alone. Well be waiting to see what the new numbers are. But we also are hearing are the states starting to figure out how they want to open up. Seven of the states in the midwest have since joined a collaboration. Theyre working together to focus on how they plan to reopen. Ohio is signalling they want to lead the charge. Ohios governor just in the past couple minutes detailing what that may look like in a state like ohio. He is saying stashgtsing may 1st as sectors start to open up, employers and employees will have new practices. Theyll have staggered lunch breaks, staggered employment times. They may be Wearing Masks and gloves, for example. But there are still many questions at play. We know a state like wisconsin, they extended their stay at home order through the end of may. Things continue to rise and the president asserts himself and sizes some of the states. The governor says they want to take the lead when theyre reopening their own governments. Katy . Brian . Shaquille brewster on the ground. I spoke over you. Of that was my bad this time. Okay. Its one or the other every other day. Next up, well speak with michigan senator debbie st stabenow. Some continue to stand in defiance of governor whitmers state. And well check in on what congress is doing right now to send more help to struggling Small Businesses. Stay with us. Small busissnees stay with us uick something big. Has arrived. 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Katy, cautious optimism. Certainly officials are very aware of the danger that covid19 presents to this state because theyre stressing that just because people are living in sparsely Populated Areas that, does not make them any more safe. 108 new cases today. And right now we know a third of all deaths that happened here in oklahoma have been tied to Nursing Homes and or Long Term Care facilities. One thing that were seeing as the virus makes its way through the more Rural Communities is that its not necessarily a wave much its outbreaks popping up from one town to another. There is only one confirmed case here. Just across the way though, a couple hours into town, the nursing home had more than 30 case theres of the 45 residents inside. And three people have already lost their life there. That Community Just shocked at how quickly this virus moved in. So in order to respond, the Oklahoma StateHealth Department has unveiled about 150 hospital programs that theyre calling the surge plan. They anticipate that with the peak coming on april 21st, they feel like theyre prepared. Theyre opening up more testing sites like the one behind me. They have one in every county. That test is free. And so theyre hoping that they theyre confident they have capacity theyll need as covid19 makes its way through. This week the governor here in oklahoma stressing april 30th will be when they reexamine the numbers and hopefully come up with a plan on how to potentially reopen this state going forward. Brian . Katy . Morgan, ardmore, oklahoma. Thank you for that. The governor of michigan announced she hopes to lift restrictions in her state by may 1. But she is still expressing caution. I do hope to have some relaxing come may 1st. Its two weeks away and that information and the data and our ability to test is changing so rapidly. Its thoord say where well be in a week from now much less two. We sometimes have to keep repeating this is dicey business because it involves, remember, public health. And earlier this week we saw those crowds gathered in lansing to protest the extension of michigans statewide stay at home order. And it seems the president may have thoughts on that topic as well. He tweeted among other things earlier today, liberate michigan. With us is Michigan Democratic u. S. Senator. Senator, i have to ask you about this movement in your home state but in a lot of place as cross the country. You can watch it develop. Its between american lives and the american there are practitioners put it. How have they been in this crisis in. This is not either or. I mean, i want to liberate michigan. I want to there is a lot of information. Theyre so true. We are flying blind. Everyone can go to the Grocery Store to go back to work in this store and get a quick test and the person who is sick goes home instead of everybody having to stay home which is what is happening right now. Which, by the way, is the reason that my democratic colleagues and i put out a report through our policy committee yesterday about testing. How we compare to other countries, the facts, what is happening, and why we are proposing a 30 billion investment in the next round in the kind of testing we need to get things going again. Because we have over 2,000 people who lost their lives in michigan. I dont want that to be 3,000 or 4,000 or 5,000. I know governor doesnt either. This is a health crisis. Its a pandemic. And we have to be willing to trust each other and Work Together and get the information that we need and do this the right way based on information. Putting aside political rallies, senator, politically motivated rallies, there are people that are at home right now who are wondering how long they can stay safe. And theyre putting food on the table. And its for the people that need to stay home. Maybe they can stay home. This is so hard and there is a 2 trillion package to get us started. We have to focus on to things we need to extend. We need to do much more. But number one, health care crisis. What our hospitals, doctors, nurses need, what we need to do testing and a vaccine. We have to stay focused. And second, when folks are being required to stay home or businesses are being required to close, how do we keep income coming . And thats everything from the 1200 checks, unemployment compensation, the Small Business programs, the other business efforts and we know that unfortunately because of the contagious nature of the virus and the lack of uniformity and everybody in every state taking it seriously and the president taking it seriously with the National Action plan. Were going to have to do more both in supporting Small Business as well as supporting workers and certainly supporting our health care workers. Senator, youre so right. No one voted for a shutdown. No one wants to be home during this period. Talk about your state. The protest group we saw in lansing loud and proud, shutting down traffic out in public with no masks. If this indeed becomes a kind of right versus left, red versus blue prairie fire, whats michigan, whats the country going to look like . Are we going have subsequent curves . Are we going to live with a constant level of disease for a while . Brian, i am just as concerned as you are about this and the question. I think we have people that are very frustrated. They dont trust government. They dont trust anyone. Theyre listening to the president who keeps giving false hopes in my estimation and not talking about what its really going to take like the active testing and the effort thats we need to really come together with a plan to bring people back to work. But this is also being fueled politically. I mean when we see in michigan the folks funding some of this, you know, unfortunately, the actions coming from the Republican Leadership and the state legislature that appears to want to fuel this on a partisan basis. You know, we dont need this right now. We cannot afford this. We cannot afford were losing lives and livelihoods. There is partisan games. It is what i believe from the president. To me, its shocking. That anybody would be doing that and were talking about american lives. There are more than 2,000 deaths. Senator debbie stabenaw. Stay safe. Its giving us an early look at life at what it could look at home. T home puberty means personal space. So sports clothes sit around growing odors. Thats why we graduated to tide pods sport. Finally something more powerful than the funk. Tide sport removes even weekold sweat odor. Its got to be tide. We are getting a preview of what our new normal might look like as some of the First Nations to experience the coronavirus outbreak are starting to lift up their lockdowns. From china to spain, countries are debating how to safely return to every day life and restore basic freedoms without refueling the spread of the coronavirus. Joining us now from london is our nbc News Senior International correspondent. Walk us through what its looking like across the world. Katy, beyond the debate about when to open up and how to open up that you guys are having there, what other countries really have been learning in europe and in asia is that, in fact, persuading people to get out of their houses can be a challenge. So one man i spoke to in wuhan, china, described it as a post Traumatic Stress syndrome after the lockdown. In countriesposttraumatic syndrome across the country. This week and next week, they slowly begin to release the lockdown. The trouble is, many people are very nervous. Its a confidence challenge. Europes cities silenced by coronavirus are slowly trying to open up. It isnt easy. Im on my way to town to see what its like after four weeks. Reporter Barbara Edwards in austria ventured out this week. People are apprehensive, so i am. Im going to give it a try. Because we have to restore some normalcy to our lives. Reporter turns out shes not the only nervous ones. Is the stores are mostly empty. Most of the clothes shops are open but not many people inside. Reporter europes governments grappling with the crucial question of safety in their own ways. Italy, the epicenter of the crisis first opening book shops and Childrens Clothing store. Hardhit spain sending workers back to factories and construction sites. Denmark restarting elementary schools. But there, parents have been protesting, concerned over safety. Back in austria, thousands of stores have reopened but economists there are cautious. When would these measures finally be gone, all of them in. Well, were not sure whether theyll all be gone but the plan is now to lift gradually some of the measures. Reporter the lack of coordination between countries is another concern. Because coronavirus is global, the patchwork of plans to revive economies around the world suggests International Travel may be harder to revive. This family from boston have been keeping a video diary, they learned the lockdown is going to last another month. The government is going to reopen something and thats all we know. We dont know if there will be enough masks, we dont know if there will be enough tests. Reporter and while widespread testing is key its available in only a handful of countries, like germany and iceland, until a vaccine is available the world will struggle to get back to normal. And testing and tracking is one of the ways that we can build confidence here in the uk, some lawmakers arguing that even though the lockdown has been extended people should be giving a picture cough what the exit plan should look like, other thinks that leaves mixed messages and makes it harder to persuade. The Crucial Point here is, when the lobdowns are lifted that doesnt mean the virus is gone. Do i go to see my dad in his 70s . Thats questions governments need to answer right now. Go ahead, katy, im sorry. Do you feel part of the question, do you feel safe leaving your home individually, do you feel safe, even if your government says its okay to visit your day, keir, do you feel safe putting him in that position, do you feel safe going to a bookstore, a childrens store, or sending your kids back to store, thats going be a struggle for every single one of us. Brian . To katy, to keir simmons, thanks. Keir, i was going to say all these same questions are coming right across the atlantic. Keir simmons with us coming up on 8 00 p. M. In london. Family with loved ones in a nursing home in new york are desperate more information today after at least 29 residents died from the coronavirus. It happened at the safire center for rehabilitation in the borough of queens but the relatives of the victims say theyre not getting the whole story. With us for more on this is nbc news correspondent ron allen. Who has been roving throughout the new york area from hot spot to hot spot, testing location to testing location, ron, i note,s last two stories you have covered for us have been about these nursing home deaths. And i dont think this is going to be last, brian, sadly. We have seen in washington where the epidemic started in the u. S. A similar scenario, families havent been able to see their loved ones in Nursing Homes for safety reasons. During that time period, theres been an incredibly high rate of death. At this center in queens, families arent getting answers. Were not getting answers from the owner about these questions about how many people have died there. Weve been told its 29. The local officials out there and some families think it could be as high as 60. They cant account for everyone inside the facility. One consultant to the facility said, if its 29 dead, its a tragedy and every one life is important but during a pandemic like this it would not be an aberration, a stunning and shocking as these numbers are, well see more of this at ass t assisted living facilities. We met a woman who found out that her sister, 69yearold sister had died at this facility when she called up for a scheduled facetime call. The answer was, well, your sister has passed. She was of course livid. Went and try to find some answers. Heres what she told us about that. I called the coordinator and she told me that she could not get to the room it was closed. I then called the deck, the nurses station and the nurse told me, yes, she passed away about 3 00 or 3 30. No one came you and gave you an official explanation. Nobody called me. The administrator made a phone call and they brought down a gown for me to go upstairs and i was able to go upstairs and allowed to go into the room where my sister was lying with the curtain pulled and a sheet over her and there was a nurse in there and i asked her if i could come in and she said yes, i said would you take the sheet off . I saw my sister lying dead there. Have they given you any explanation. No, i asked the nurse if she had the virus. They said they dont know. Obviously she wasnt given a test. Just an unbelievable situation. She told us her story because she wants the world to know what happened. She wants answers. We havent heard from the owner or state officials. Weve been asking whats going on at this facility and as we said earlier, brian, unfortunately and sadly this is probably not the story like this that well tell you about. Brian, katy. Boy, as hard as it is to watch and hear. Thank you for passing on her story. Another break for us. 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