The u. S. brazil ceo forum, and we have started a new u. S. Brazil Energy forum. We welcome brazils aspirations to join organization for Economic Cooperation development, a laudable goal and one that will make brazils status as a developing and developed country. We also hope that all of us will be able to work together, all nations. Im also pleased to announce that after 20 years of talks, were finalizing a technologies safeguards agreement to allow u. S. Companies to conduct space launches from brazil. Its actually an incredible location when you study it and when you see it. We wont go into it now, but because of the location, tremendous amounts of money would be saved. To put it very simply, the flights are a lot shorter. Brazils proximity to equator makes it an ideal launch location. My administration is committed to reviving americas proud legacy in space. Were looking very strongly, as you know, and working together with everybody on space force, and were grateful for brazils partnership. Mr. President , thank you again for the honor of your visit today. A strong and thriving friendship between the United States and brazil is essential to a future of security and prosperity for all of our citizens. Its been a wonderful time getting to know you. Youre doing a fantastic job. You brought the country together, and i look forward to working with you in a very close relationship for many years to come. Thank you. Thank you very much. Mr. President , thank you very much. [ speaking Foreign Language ] translator it is an honor to be in washington for my first bilateral trip ever since i was elected president of brazil. I would like to use the opportunity to invite you to reciprocate this visit because you will indeed be very welcomed by the brazilian people. We do share a great deal in common. I have always admired the United States of america, and this sense of admiration has just increased after you took office. This meeting of ours today restores an old tradition of partnership and starts a new chapter of cooperation between brazil and the United States. Today we have revisited and decided to promote matters in an order of business. It is time to overcome old resistances and explore the very best there is between brazil and the United States. After all, it is fair to say brazil the reforms we are currently undertaking have changed brazil into an even more attractive country. The private sector should remain a highprofile player in our relations. Thats why we have decided to restore the ceo forum between brazil and the u. S. We also intend to attach priority to relaunching an energy forum with an emphasis on oil, gas, and other sources of energy. The brazilian government as a sign of goodwill has granted full exemption to u. S. Nationals to further encourage tourism and business travels. On the defense and space cooperation work front, we have signed a Technology Safeguards agreement, which will in turn enable the satellite launch center. Military cooperation has also expanded as we seek out partnerships in the development of the systems of science, technology, and innovation activity, which can certainly be expected to take on an increasing role in our partnership. Efforts to tackle terrorism and organized crime is a matter of utmost urgency for our two peoples. We have decided to strengthen our bilateral Security Forum and do more against Money Laundering and drug trafficking. Establishing democracy in venezuela is also a shared interest between our two administrations. The dictatorial regime in venezuela today is part of a broader International Coalition known as the sao paulo forum, which nearly conquered power throughout latin america in recent times. However, by democratic mean, we were able to rid ourselves from that project in brazil. In conclusion, may i say that brazil and the United States stand side by side in their efforts to ensure liberties in respect to traditional family lifestyles, respect to god, our creator, politically correct attitudes, and against fake news. Drawing inspiration from ronald reagan, i wish to bring to this administration style people should say what the government can do and not the other way around. The United States changed in 2017, and brazil has just started to change now. We stand together side by side to the benefit of our two nations. We want to have a great america, yes, and we also want to have a great brazil. Once again, may i voice my admiration, recognition to President Donald Trump on this Beautiful Day where we seal a promising alliance between the two most promising and largest democracies in the western hemisphere. May god bless brazil, and may god bless the United States of america. Thank you very much, mr. President. So well take a couple questions. Roberta rampton, please. Reuters. Thank you. Thank you very much, mr. President. On venezuela, you did the tough sanctions, and you sent the aid, but it seems like maduro is no closer to leaving, and im wondering if youre getting worried about losing momentum, and how long are you being told this is going to take . Im not being told any specific time. Theyve been there a long time, between him and his predecessor. At some point, i would imagine things will change, but we really havent done the really tough sanctions yet. We can do the tough sanctions, and all options are open, so we may be doing that, but we havent done the toughest of sanctions, as you know. I would say weve done right down the middle, but we can go a lot tougher if we need to do that. But its a very sad thing. Were not looking for anything other than taking care of a lot of people that are starving and dying in the streets. Whats happening there is a disgrace. This was one of the wealthiest countries in the world, and all of a sudden its just its grief stricken, poverty stricken, no food, no water, no airconditioning, no anything, no power for a long time last week. No power. Thats going to break down again because its being held together by threads. So its very sad, roberta. Very sad to see. May i ask president bolsonaro, are you open to the idea of allowing a u. S. Base or u. S. Military personnel, a military presence in brazil to provide support on the border with venezuela, and is that something that you talked about with President Trump today . Translator yeah, we have discussed the possibility of brazil becoming a great ally. Recently we requested that food was sent through from friends from america so humanitarian aid was provided to venezuela. At this point in time, this is where we stand. As much as its possible for us to do together to sort out the issue of the venezuelan dictatorship, brazil will be more than willing and ready to fulfill this mission and take freedom and democracy to that country, which up until recently was one of the wealthiest countries in south america. But nowadays people are starving to death. They are suffering violence, lack of medication. Its something terrible thats going on. And we need to put an end to this tsh which is this, which is pervasive to the whole worldwide. Translator hello, Simone Iglesias from bloomberg. I would like to know if the u. S. Actually have a military intervention in venezuela, whats the position of brazil . Translator well, there are a few issues that if you speak theyre no longer strategic. Therefore, these reserved issues, which may be discussed if they have not yet, will not become public evidently. I remember on a debate here in the United States when a candidate asks another candidate what he would do to fight the islamic state, he said if i say, i will no longer be able to beat it. So its a matter of strategy. For everything we discuss here will be honored, but unfortunately certain pieces of information may not be debated publicly. Translator President Trump, regarding the military intervention, do you think about this possibility . Fighting venezuela to remove maduro from power . As i said, all options are open. I think of all possibilities. All options are open. Well see what happens. By the way, i see in the audience the son of the president who has been fantastic. Would you please stand up . The job youve done during a very tough period of time is just fantastic. I know your father appreciates it, that i can tell you. Okay. Thank you very much. Fantastic job. Thank you, mr. President. Two questions for you, sir, if i may. First on the 2020 election. Theres a growing number of Democratic Candidates who have endorsed the idea of adding seats to the Supreme Court. Is that an idea that you would entertain in the remainder of your term or possible next term, or is that not something you agree with . No, i wouldnt entertain that. The only reason theyre doing that is they want to try and catch up. So if they cant catch up through the ballot box by winning an election, they want to try doing it in a different way. Now, we would have no interest in that whatsoever. Itll never happen. It wont happen. I guarantee you it wont happen for six years. Another question for you on social media. You tweeted in support of congressman nunes suit against twitter. Its part of a larger discussion that senator josh holly has been leading about making social Media Companies liable for the content thats on their platform, which theyre not currently. Is that an idea or change in law that you would support . Well, we have to do something. I tell you, i have many, many millions of followers on twitter, and its different than it used to be. Things are happening, names are taken off, people arent getting through. Youve heard the same complaints. It seems to be if theyre conservative, if theyre republicans, if theyre in a Certain Group, theres discrimination and big discrimination. I see it absolutely on twitter and facebook, which i have also, and others. I really focus more on the one platform. I guess we have almost 60 million on twitter. If you add them all up, its way over 100 million people. I get to see firsthand whats going on, and its not good. We use the word collusion very loosely all the time, and i will tell you there is collusion with respect to that because something has to be going on. When you get the back scene, back office statements made by executives of the various companies and you see the level of, in many cases, hatred they have for a Certain Group of people that happen to be in power, that happen to have won the election, you say thats really unfair. So something is happening with those groups of folks that are running facebook and google and twitter, and i do think we have to get to the bottom of it. Its very fair. Its collusive and very, very fair to say that we have to do something about it. And if we dont, you know, the incredible thing is that we can win an election and we have such a stacked deck. That includes networks, frankly. You look at the networks, you look at the news, you look at the newscasts. I call it fake news. Im very proud to hear the president use the term fake news. But you look at whats happening with the networks, you look at whats happening with different shows, and its hard to believe we win. Ill tell you what it really shows, the people are smart. The people get it. Theyll go through all of that, whatever it is theyre fed, and in the end they pull the right lever. Its a very, very dangerous situation. So i think i agree. I think something has to be looked at very closely. Thank you, sir. President bolsonaro, another question on the 2020 election. If a number of the democrats who are running to replace the president have embraced or considered socialist ideas, youve spoken critically of that in the past. If a socialist or a candidate who embraces socialism were to replace the president , how would it affect your relations with the United States . Translator well, its an internal affair. We will respect whatever the ballots tell us on 2020, but i do believe donald trump is going to be reelected fully. Thank you. I agree. Translator yeah, this is the same, what happened to me. I think everyone will repeat their vote here in america. So every day more and more people that are prone to socialism and even communism slowly are going to be opening their minds to the reality, and you can see the border with venezuela and brazil was recently closed, not for brazilians, which are pro socialism, but the other way around so venezuelans who support democracy wouldnt go into brazil. This feeling most certainly is going to be seen when 2020 comes. Mr. President , thank you very much. Go ahead. You look like a very nice person. This will be the killer of all time, watch. Thank you, mr. President. The usgr is not supporting the entry of brazil in the oecd. Is the u. S. Government going to formally support entry on the oecd, and what have you asked as a tradeoff . We will be supporting. Were going to have a great relationship in so many different ways. Thats just something that were going to be doing in honor of the president and in honor of brazil. We will be asking for things but not necessarily having to do with that. I think were going to have a very fair relationship. Thank you. And president bolsonaro translator thank you president bolsonaro translator does the United States expect the influence of china into brazil . Yesterday it was mentioned it will incentivize relations with china. How does the u. S. See that and what you said about President Trump, the chinese in brazil . Translator like i said, brazil is going to keep making as much business with as many countries as possible. No longer business is going to be found into the ideology, as it used to be. We are also following this objective for the good of our peoples. Thank you very much, mr. President. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. And thank you, everybody. Thank you very much. China is going very well. Talks with china are going very well. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Donald trump with the president of brazil right now, getting questions on a number of topics, one of them venezuela and president maduro down there, whether or not brazil would become like a nato ally to the u. S. And allow troops on the border with venezuela. Also getting questions about packing the Supreme Court and a twitter lawsuit that devin nunes has brought. Interesting mix of questions for the president of the United States while he was standing next to the president of brazil. The president of brazil is pretty controversial down there. Hes been called the trump of brazil. He said some pretty controversial things. I thought it was notable that he mentioned just a moment ago, the president of brazil, that President Trump and him do share a great deal in common. Unclear exactly what he means, but bolsonaro is a farright politician. He rose to popularity, promising to end corruption, draining the swamp. Obviously real parallels there to the president of the United States. He has also said that he couldnt love a gay son and that a parent should beat the gay out of their sons. He said to a fellow lawmaker that she was not worth raping. He said brazils prisons are wonderful places where people pay for their sins. Hes also said that he supports torture. Joining me now is nbc News White House correspondent kristen welker, politico Senior Writer jake sherman, the director of progress i have programming for sirius xm. Kristen welker, quite a day for the president , coming off quite a weekend and monday for the president , at least on twitter. Today when he was in the oval office with bolsonaro, he was asked about john mccain. Sitting next to a foreign leader, he took the Opportunity One more time to go after john mccain. Lets listen to that. Its coming. Dont you worry. Why are you attacking senator john mccain . Very unhappy that he didnt repeal and replace obamacare, as you know. He campaigned on repealing and replacing obamacare for years, and then he got to a vote and said thumbs down. Our country would have saved a trillion dollars. We would have had great health care. So he campaigned. He told us hours before that he was going to repeal and replace, and then for some reason i think i understand the reason he ended up going thumbs up. Frankly, had we known that, i think we could have got the vote because we could have gotten something else. I think thats disgraceful. Plus, there are other things. I was never a fan of john mccain, and i never will be. Kristen welker, try to run us through the president s day today. Reporter that was a remarkable moment, katy, when i asked President Trump about senator john mccain. I wasnt sure if he was going to answer that question. As you point out, he was sitting there next to the president of brazil, but he did take the chance to take yet another swipe at the late senator who passed away nearly seven months ago now. But he did give one new piece of information i thought, which is he said senator mccain had assured the white house just hours before that vote that he was, in fact, going to be voting with the white house. Now, a lot of democrats say, look, they were prepared for senator mccains thumbs down vote. All of this is to some extent irrelevant because politically speaking, its just remarkable that you would have a president continue to attack a senator nearly seven months after his death. So i tried to follow up with the president and ask if that type of behavior is beneath the dignity of the office. A lot of people shouting over me. He didnt answer the question, suffice it to say. It didnt get followed up here. Quick policy note. I did think it was notable you heard President Trump as it relates to brazil say that the u. S. Is poised to recognize brazil as a major nonnato u. S. Ally. He said hes even prepared to move to have it recognized as a full nato ally but clearly has to talk to a lot of people. Then one final point. You started the discussion, katy, talking about the similarities between these two leaders. The fact bolsonaro is referred to as the trump of the tropics. Well, you saw that on display here when in his opening remarks, he referred to Political Correctness and fake news and President Trump, capping this News Conference effectively, by saying he was so thrilled to hear that from the president of brazil. So the day started with those tough questions about senator mccain and sort of mixed in a little bit of policy. But again, ending on that very strong symbol of how these two leaders are very similar. There are delicate matters in south america right now with whats going on in venezuela. Obviously brazil is in an important strategic position for the United States in potentially dealing with whats happening down there. But this is not the First White House youve covered. If a leader like bolsonaro was invited to the white house, a leader who has said the things that he has said about gays, about women, about torture, et cetera, and then went up there and said ive got a lot in common with this president of the United States, how would a past white house react . Reporter well, and i covered the former Obama Administration and was there during a number of press conferences when former president obama would say its important that we work together. We need to work together. There are also areas of sharp disagreement. I didnt hear that today. Of course, every Leader Meeting is going to be different, but one of those areas of agreement is on the issue of venezuela, katy. The fact theres a crisis there in venezuela, you heard President Trump reiterate the fact that no options are off the table. He was pressed on whether he would move for military action. Again, not giving any specifics, but saying, look, it is among the options thats being considered. Also adding there are tougher sanctions that he can do to deal with that crisis. Of course, brazil shares a border with venezuela. So for them, this is something thats impacting day in and day out. Theres obviously Strategic Value in getting along with brazil, but theres a sharp difference that at least president obama would have said something along the lines of there are sharp disagreements. The president offered none of that today. And i think its these small things that are actually very large. In some ways, it shows that this white house doesnt have an organized vetting process because any remarks z if the president is going to be in a room with someone, they know exactly what that person is going to say, who that person is, everything about their background to ensure the president is not saying it to someone with these controversial views and is seen as cosigning and endorsing. Even the generic i dont agree on everything. In some ways, it goes to the fact he doesnt respect the office of the president si. This entire presidency is about his personality and his feelings as opposed to the respect that were supposed to have for our leaders. He doesnt act like it matters, right. I dont know whats in his head or in his heart, but he doesnt act like he has the same respect that weve seen from past president s, not just for the norms, but even vetting for security purposes. You dont want the president out here with somebody that could potentially contradict a Foreign Policy position of the actual administration. So i think, you know, its a small thing, but it actually is a big thing. I think that with this white house, its these Little Things that add up to demonstrate they dont have the same level of respect that previous administrations have had for the role that he has. Jake, i want to get your take on this. What do you think . I have a lot of thoughts here. Obviously this was very good for the president. Its a foreign leader showing him respect on his soil. Im not talking about the substance of what was said or not said, but its very good for the president in his own opinion to have someone agreeing with him next to him, somebody whos come from another country, another big country. Lets talk about the john mccain thing for a second. There are gaping factual inaccuracies here that for somebody whos covered this boggles the mind. Number one, john mccain went out the day of that vote going down and said he was unlikely to vote for it. The white house had very many hours of heads up. Number two, there wasnt just another vote laying around for the president to say, oh, mccains out, so could you come in and vote for it . So the idea that mccain here was somehow dispositive and could have been prevented, its complete fantasy, absolute fantasy. And my colleague tweeted something today thats apt and worth repeating. I think john mccain would probably get a kick out of the fact that six to seven months after hes dead, hes still angering President Trump, a president with whom hes had sharp disagreements and frankly didnt seem like there was much respect between the two. The other stuff thats been happening today, and this just kind of dove tails into the president s overall attitude, his behavior the past 48, 72 this weekend. The 58 tweets from the weekend. Its whats happening with the rosenstein and mueller news. Theres some developments there. Julia ainsley will give us those in a second. But theres also the kellyanne conway, George Conway stuff. George conway tweeting a bunch of diagnoses for personality disorder and saying how many of these do you find familiar. Now the president getting involved and getting involved in the marriage between his Senior Adviser and George Conway, calling him a total loser. I dont know how he has time for that. How do you have time to attack a private citizen when youre supposed to be governing the nation . So i know that we skip over the Little Things all the time with this president because its so abnormal, but he should be working. Perhaps not trolling a staffers husband on twitter. Now, George Conway is a private citizen, so whether or not its good judgment for him to attack personally his wifes boss, thats really a personal matter, right. But were talking to the president of the United States, again attacking a private citizen, in a way that just lowers the office. It lowers the entire institution. In addition, everyone with firing neurons that are functional can look at this president s behavior and see some of the traits that are in that definition of Narcissistic Personality Disorder and say, hmm, thats something that we perhaps should consider because every single thing, whether it be policy, Foreign Policy, or a political debate over an issue is about the president and how he feels personally. Its about his poll numbers and about his feelings. Thats not what being president is about. I think we need to actually, as citizen, either put our energies behind organizing to get this guy out of here, get back to some normalcy, or try to put pressure on our congressional representatives, including republicans, so that they can have some backbone. This is abnormal. We cant just sit by every day as hes lowering the value and really the integrity and dignity of the office of president by attacking private people. So George Conway has responded. Hes given an interview to the washington post. Im just going to read a portion of what he said. He said, its so maddening to watch the presidency. The incompetence, its mad tong watch. The tweeting is just the way to get it out of the way so i can get it off my chest and move on with my life that day. Thats basically it. Frankly, its so i dont end up screaming at her about it. Presumably that her is kellyanne. Julia ainsley, leaving the kellyanne anne George Conway stuff aside, theres news from the Mueller Investigation. S pseudo news from the Mueller Investigation. Thats that Rod Rosenstein will be staying on longer at the doj. Did the president get a heads up about that . Does that mean the Mueller Investigation is going to take longer than was initially reported . So the words were using around here today are a little longer. They keep emphasizing that little. Its not that hes signed on to stay through the end of the year. Theres just a delay because Rod Rosenstein was saying he was leaving in midmarch. Today is march 19th. It doesnt seem that the end is anywhere quite in sight for him. I was looking around that office today. People are still functioning. Hes still very much here. Its sort of funny that on march 7th he said it was one of his last speeches and he was looking forward to a period of unemployment. That doesnt seem to be the case. What can we read into that . Ive pushed officials on that here. They said it was not anything necessarily to read into, but they declined to comment when asked whether or not that was tied to the timing of the mueller report. Thats obviously why were all here waiting for Robert Mueller to finish his report, take it here to the attorney general william barr, who will then decide what portion of that to give to congress. The fact it isnt here yet, should we read into that . And should we read into the fact that rosenstein is delaying because perhaps something has come up and the timeline has pushed back . They would not comment on that. But that could be telling in itself. Its tea leaf reading time. Theres so many different ways to read this when you think of whos been staying on in the Mueller Investigation, who has left, the fact that robert gates rick gates is still cooperating. Theyve pushed back his sentencing. Lots of tea leaves. The rosenstein little longer delay is just another leaf were reading today. Julia, thank you so much. Kristen welker, thank you as well. Jake sherman and zerlina will both be back in a moment. In the meantime, attorneys general were in court today arguing that the president is violating the constitution. Thats next. S violating the constitution thats next. 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And if a court finds trump violated it, several lawmakers have already told me that could be grounds for impeachment. The emoluments suit is just one that could yield some hard answers to questions weve been asking since 2016. Number one, how much money is trump making from foreign interests . But there are still more questions. Right now democrats in the house are using their Congressional Authority to try and find answers. The ways and Means Committee is pursuing Donald Trumps taxes. The Intel Committee is examining trumps foreign financial interests, specifically any ties to russia. Multiple committees have expressed interest in talking to Trump Organization cfo alan weisselberg. And after these questions were raised by alexandria ocasiocortez with Michael Cohen last month to your knowledge, did the president ever provide inflated assets to an Insurance Company . Yes. Who else knows that the president did this . Alan weisselberg. And where will the committee find more information on this . Do you think we need to review his Financial Statements and his tax returns in order to compare them . Yes, and youd find it at the trump org. After that, the new York Attorney general had issued or has issued today subpoenas to Deutsche Bank. The New York Times reports today that the bank loaned trump more than 2 billion over two decades, massive loans that continue despite numerous red flags about his finances, bankruptcies, and exaggerated claims of wealth. Time after time after time threw more money at him, one time after another, even when he defaulted on his loans, even when he sued the bank, even when there are all these red flags about him inflating his assets, even when executives within the bank said we cannot do business with this guy. He lies. He defaults. He has tied to organized crime. They kept throwing money at him. So when it comes to Donald Trumps finances, when will we know enough . Joining me, nbc news justice correspondent pete williams, vanity fair special correspondent and the author of why wall street matters william cohen, and Georgetown University law Professor John mckyle. What is the latest in the emoluments case . This is the first case to reach a federal appeals court. There have been other lawsuits over a potential conflict between the president s businesses and his official duties. What this one is a lawsuit filed by the attorneys general of maryland and washington, d. C. They do cite the warning emoluments clause. They say thats a ban in the constitution on a president receiving a gift or a payment from a Foreign Government. Now, they claim every time somebody from a Foreign Government stays at the trump hotel just five blocks from the white house, thats money in his pocket. That violates the emoluments clause. And they say they have standing to sue because it hurts businesses in d. C. That cannot compete by saying, hey, were owned by the president , so if you want to curry favor, stay at our hotel. And they say they also have their own event spaces that compete with the trump hotel. The Justice Department argues, no, the emoluments clause is much narrower than that. It is a ban on payments or favors from a Foreign Government in exchange for some official act that a president performs as part of his duties, and therefore, they say there is no violation and they also say these local governments dont have a standing to bring a lawsuit against the president. So this they got very favorable treatment, the attorneys general did when they went to court here before a District Court judge in maryland where the lawsuit was filed. It was a little different story today before the Fourth Circuit court of appeals, which hears cases from this area. Its based in richmond, virginia. There was some skepticism both about their reading, their expansive reading of what the emoluments clause means and whether they have standing to sue, but i think its fair to say no matter what happens here, this case could ultimately end up before the Supreme Court for the simple reason that never in our nations history has there ever been a definitive court ruling on that very question. What does emoluments mean . Well, john, youve been trying to figure out what emoluments mean. Youve been looking at dictionaries that are over 400 years old to try and figure out what the framers meant when they wrote in the word emoluments, which is a word we just dont use any longer. Courts have initially agreed with your definition, which is profit, advantage, gain, or benefit. Give us the significance of this. I know its a moth balled word. I know it sounds like a weedy part of the constitution, but this is the president of the United States who could be found in violation of the constitution. Thats correct. I think the nub of the matter is whether the president is violating these core anticorruption provisions of the constitution. I do think that the founding era evidence that i and others have looked at supports the plaintiffs in these lawsuits. The term emolument is not common to us today, but it was a much more common term in the 18th century. The founders used it in their correspondence. They used it in other public documents than the constitution. General w generally, the evidence suggests that the word e mmolument had a broad meaning. Profit, gain, or advantage of any kind, whatsoever. Thats the way the foreign emoluments clause of the constitution is worded. So the founders took care to frame the emoluments clause broadly. I think they wanted to draw a bright line so that officers of the United States would not only avoid corruption but the appearance of corruption. And why does paying for a hotel room, why is that considered potentially profit or gain and not just a gift, something that could be easily construed as a bribe . Well, i think its possible to distinguish presents or gifts on the one hand for the profits of commercial transactions on the other. Thats the second category is what the founders typically use the word emolument to refer to. What we have here are Foreign Governments and officers, agents of Foreign Governments proclaiming that they are staying at the trump hotel in order to curry favor with the president. There seems to be a lot of evidence to that effect in news media reports. And thats very troublesome. Bill, Donald Trumps finances, theyve hovered over everything in this presidency so far. We havent seen his taxes. There are questions about bank loans, Deutsche Bank back in the news today. This emoluments lawsuit. I know it sounds confusing. I know some people might tune out when they hear it. I hope they dont because theyre doing it on the show. But why does it matter . Why does it matter to get at the heart of where the president s money comes from . Katy, this is the first president in perhaps forever who did not put his business or his earnings, his ownership interests in businesses into a blind trust. He refused to do that. Hes not made his income tax forms available. Hes not made available the projections of his business. Hes lied about his net worth. Hes lied about his net worth in order to obtain loans from Deutsche Bank, which frankly strikes me as a criminal behavior, but im not a Law Enforcement official. You cant inflate your net worth to try and tin deuinduce a banke you loans, loans that no other bank in the world would make to this guy. To me this all sums up the importance of oversight and congressional oversight, and were beginning to get that for the first time. And this lawsuit or this subpoena at least by the new York Attorney general, can you say it stemmed from alexandria ocasiocortez and the questions she gave to Michael Cohen, or Michael Cohen when he made a point in his Opening Statement saying that donald trump lied very often about what he was worth, what his properties were worth, and lied in different circumstances, devalued them or extra valued them depending on his mood, a particular day. Depending on what he was trying to get. Well, that too. This is a guy who knew that banks across wall street would not give him money. He experienced that with his casinos. He had at least four casinos go into bankruptcy. He knew he was the third rail. He turned to Deutsche Bank. For whatever reason, Deutsche Bank was willing to give him money repeatedly despite, by the way, him suing Deutsche Bank and acting as if an act of god had occurred for his chicago tower and not wanting to pay that money back. What might they find out with these subpoenas at Deutsche Bank . I think youll see all sorts of emails and documentary evidence of why they gave him this money when they probably shouldnt. I think whats so interesting about the article today is there are people inside the bank who are saying, no, dont do this money. Part of Deutsche Bank didnt want to give him the money. The private bank overruled that. It all went up to the ceo, and they said give him the money, isnt he a charming man, youre underleveraged. The whole thing is ridiculous. Finally were going to get to the bottom of it, which donald trump has tried to avoid now for three years. Again, in this emoluments case, it might give us the first answers to those questions. John mikhail, good to see you. Bill cohen, good to see you as well. Pete williams, always wonderful to have you. Still ahead, the 2020 contenders on the issues. They want your vote, but what do they want to do with your health care . To do with your health care openturning 50 opens theuard. Door to a lot of new things. Like now your doctor may be talking to you about screening for colon cancer. Luckily theres me, cologuard. The noninvasive test you use at home. It all starts when your Doctor Orders me. Then its as easy as get, go, gone. You get me when im delivered. Right to your front door and in the privacy of your own home. Theres no prep or special diet needed. You just go to the bathroom, to collect your sample. After that, im gone, shipped to the lab for dna testing that finds colon cancer and precancer. Cologuard is not right for everyone. It is not for high risk individuals, including those with a history of colon cancer or precancer. Ibd, certain Hereditary Cancer syndromes, or a Family History of colon cancer. Maybe ill be at your door soon ask your doctor if cologuard is right for you. Covered by medicare and most major insurers. These days were all stressed. I hear you, sister. Stress can affect our minds. I call this dish, stress. Stress can also affect our bodies. So, im partnering with cigna to remind you that your emotional and physical health are more connected than you think. Go in for your annual checkup. And be open with your doctor about anything you feel. Physically, and emotionally. Body and mind. Cigna. Together, all the way. Thats better. Despite a large diverse field, most 2020 democrats agree on one thing. They support medicare for all. Just dont ask them what medicare for all actually means. Its popularized by Bernie Sanders and is a Single Payer Health care system that eliminates private insurance and transitions the u. S. To a taxpayerfunded system like the uk and canada, although we should note private insurance is Still Available in those countries. Single payer is popular with the activist base of the Democratic Party and support for it has become a litmus test in the primary. Which is why most candidates say they support it. Our question is what do they actually support. Many who endorse medicare for all are not endorsing a single payer system. They want incremental reforms krd including a public option. Private insurance would stick around and americans have the option to purchase insurance from the government. When pressed on the specifics of their health care plans, many 2020 democrats end up with something closer to a public option plan. Joining me is political reporter ali vitale and the progressive programming for sirius x mrkxm. It has to be different on the campaign trail when you are asking about policy and not just about the idea that they have to build a wall. When you talk to voters about what issues they care about and they bring up health care, what sort of things are they saying . How are they defining what they want to see the next candidate or the next president do . I think in the same way you are sayi ining candidates, vote are generally in the same bucket. They have an idea. They know, for example, that Bernie Sanders popularized this platform and for people who like bernie, i found voters are more read in. There are questions that stem from that and from private experience. Something that other candidates and voters try to pick up on. Some voters are read into this. Listen to what this voter had to tell me. I want to hear that they understand health care. Most of them have not the slightest idea of what they are talking about. If they say medicare for all, i say youre an idiot. It cant be done. Its a flawed system destroyed by congress and lobbyists. It is a horrible system. The way it is right now. Whether it will be become the public option and the single payer, that could happen in a decade. Not tomorrow. If you do it tomorrow, you bankrupt the country. Wayne is a physician and he has a kind of front row seat to how the Health Care System works. On the other hand, i met voter who is generally want hear something that makes sense, specifically about bringing down Prescription Drug costs as well as making the Health Care System more understandable and accessible. Overall the one thing that all democratic voters have in common is they Like Universal Health care as a right. How you get to that point, they are open to hearing what the candidates have to say at least at this point. What are you hearing . Beto orourke gets this question or some version of it at every event i covered. He talks about getting to a point of universal Affordable Health care for all americans. He said there are a couple of ways to do it. Heres how he answered the question yesterday. Universal Health Care Means you focus on being better. Your provider focuses on you. At a minimum, we have to expand in the states that have chosen not to. We have to introduce medicare as an option on the exchanges to improve competition and drive down costs. And to that end, orourke who doesnt talk about specific pieces of legislation that often is fairly specific on this topic. He said he supports a piece of legislation called the medicare for america act that would introduce medicare as an option on the exchanges. Its the kind of thing that all americans could buy into or keep their private insurance. He sees that as a bridge that gets to universal coverage. He likes the idea of medicare for all, he doesnt think its the fastest or most effective way to get everyone cover and thats why he supported the bridge steps. Not to just focus on beto orourke, gillibrand said eliminating private experience is a goal and thinks it will be accomplished by a public option and medicare for all requires it and booker doesnt think it requires ending private experience. Inslee agrees with booker. Cloeb shar wants a medica medicaidbased public option. There are many possibilityings and appears to support a public option. They are all under the header of universal health care, medicare for all, etc. There is a lot of difference and nuance and are democrats going to have to nail down what they want to do and present a plan to get far . Part of the process is producing that and creating that. Elizabeth warren has been putting out those issues. I would encourage all campaigns to do that. The voters want to know how you get to universal coverage. Im glad we are back to having the conversation. I remember in 2007 when i joined the obama campaign, most of the people working there were there because they had a health issue in their family with a sick parent or child. Health care was the number one reason why they volunteered or worked on the campaign because they wanted to change the system. We got obamacare and lost in the conversation was the public option. Im glad we are talking about the public option because it is the one factor that was not included in obamacare that would have helped control cost. Thats one of the issues we are seeing on the exchanges. There is no Government Program controlling those costs. I think its important for the candidates to talk about specific biases that are in the Health Care System. You have to reform the experience system and eliminate it like the other candidates are saying and address specific issues within that system. You have Kirstin Gillibrand introducing a mommy act and cory booker has a mom act and Kamala Harris has mommy something. The biases in the Health Care System that impact black women who are pregnant. Its issues like that that the candidates will talk more about as it relates to health care and not just medicare for all. They will talk about the subpolicies within a larger Health Care System that makes it an ek widabquitable right. There is a doctor over there, but i cant afford it so whats the point . We want to make sure people can go to the doctor before they get sick. Lets close it out with the medicare for allpublic option. Single payer system, 56 of voters support that. Public option, 74 support it. Ali and garrett, thank you for talking about the issues with us today. Well be right back. The issues s today. Well be right back. So, we reimagined the razor with the new gillette skinguard. It has a unique guard between the blades. Thats designed to reduce irritation during the shave. Because we believe all men deserve a razor just for them. The best a man can get. Gillette. Ali velshi, i dont know if you heard that, but looking forward to my interview tomorrow. I am, too. I am looking forward to it. We both are looking forward to it. What is the burning question you have . I found out 12 seconds ago that you were interviewing him. I need another 12 questions. If any of you have burning questions, tweet me. He has an interesting story. Its the judge just about what has been in the news recently. It goes far beyond that. He dealt with it while he was u. S. Attorney. Anyone remember that out there . He was an interesting guy before donald trump became president. Fascinating guy. He has