And fatherinlaw. Cohen believes the president is trying to intimidate him and the threats are real and the president knows what hes doing. Yesterday the president responded. Michael cohen says hes threatened by you and Rudy Giuliani. I would say hes threatening the truth. He does not want the truth from me or other of his client. Lanny davis was on Andrea Mitchell this afternoon. He wont discuss direct questions and answers with mr. Mueller. It is about attacking your fatherinlaw and mr. Rudy giuliani you attack his fatherinlaw because hes from the ukraine. This is classic mob technique to send a signal to the individual who mr. Trump has called a rat. The president is not backing off. He tweeted about cohen again as some of his supporters in congress doubted Michael Cohens fears. You are saying cohen will be going to jail for lohhiying to congress. I dont know any time cohen threaten this individual. I know hes a liar and why hes going to jail. Joining me now is ken dilanian. Senate intel wants to talk to cohen and what do they want to get out of him. Is this something behind closed doors that have more to do with what mueller is investigating . The intention is a public hearing, katy. Yes, Senate Intelligence members want to know about the russia investigation. They feel like Michael Cohen has testified about the trump tower moscow deal and other elements of his conduct regarding russia and has lied to them and needs to come clean regardless of whatever arrangements he has made with prosecutors in new york and robert mueller. They agreed with what lanny davis have said there that the president has engaged in tactics of witness tampering. The reason Michael Cohen postponed his house testimony was entirely as a result of those threats. Theyre worried that his criminal lawyer telling him it is not a great idea to testify in public because there are things they dont want to discuss. The senate wants to hear about it so they issue this subpoena to guarantee or make a full attempt before he reports to federal prison next month. Donald trump has been repeatedly going after Michael Cohen. I know you said there were some doubts of the threat of security and the entire reason for him not to show up on february 7th. The president has been going after him on twitter and Rudy Giuliani as well. Here is tare the tweets. We talked about whether this would amount to witness tampering. If we look at the u. S. Code, 1512, whoever knowing uses intimidation threatens or corruptly persuades another person or attempts to do so or engages in misleading conduct toward another person with intent to influence, delay or prevent the testimony of any person in a official proceeding. Again, i am not a lawyer but it sounds like thats what the president is doing. They may try to allege the president whos doing this. You heard lanny davis said today that he believes there should be an investigation open into Rudy Giulianis conduct. Rudy giuliani made some comments of Michael Cohens fatherinlaw. The president s defender would say hes pointing out facts and making insinuations as his rights to do. Hes the president of the United States, his attorney general no, ma nominee it is not appropriate. When he talks about the fatherinlaw, that has extra weight and intimidating. Many people make up the argument that adds up to witness tampering. Somebody singled out by the president on twitter myself, i can tell you what happens after that and it happened during the campaign and it was not as serious as what hes doing to Michael Cohen. I have been seeing Michael Cohen threats. There is that. Ken dilanian, thank you very much it is day 34 of the Government Shutdown. The senate is about to vote for two bills to reopen the government. Neither is expected to pass. Dire warning that the impasse is causing serious safety concerns. In a joint statement from three aviation unions, air Traffic Controllers and pilots and flight attendants saying quote, in our risk averse industry, we cant calculate the level of risk currently at play nor predict the point in which the entire system will break, it is unprecedent unprecedented. Some air Traffic Controller are getting desperate and taking jobs on top of their 10hour shift. Msnbc spoke with one man who worked at as a tsa agent, the system is severely compromised, we cannot accomplish our mission. Why are we at this point right now . We should be getting our paycheck. We should be feeding our family. We should be paying our bills. This administration bdoes not take the human fact into consideration and we need to stop the shutdown now. People need to realize that not getting paid and coming to work in my opinion is unamerican. This is about our safety and security and our jobs and our entire countries economic stability. No one will get out of this unscaved if we do not stop the shutdown. And add that to five letter department, john kelly and tom ridge and Michael Chertoff and johnson and john kelly, are urging to fund congress. Critical infrastructure should not have to rely on the charitable generosity of others for assistance, this is unconscionable. The big question we ask today, it is day 34, when will the shutdown end . Joining me now is hans nichols and Senior Writer from political and our new msnbc contributor, jake sherman. Welcome to the family. And with me, damian with the Washington Post. Democrats are going back to the house, we are going to give you more money for Border Security. Is there any idea of republicans getting board on this in order to stop the hurt. Reporter it depends on what this is. If this is a package that includes a lot of money for Border Security but no wall. It is not clear that the president will get on board and the president again this morning said that he is not caving. There is a distance here. You see democrats are willing to talk about concessions or Border Security with the government closed. On the other end of pennsylvania avenue, the president says hes not caving. It is tough to reconcile those two things. Once we see these two bills fail this afternoon, it does seem like thatll be a reset of sort because the president will get into his head that neither plan that the senate put up has the ability to get to the president s desk. Once that happens, well see a reset, i think well see the two sides coming to the table or three sides coming to the table and well get a compromise. The only compromise that could out of this building has to come from Mitch Mcconnell and nancy paola giangiaco pelosi and schumer. The president and his team are not fluent and mulvaney never cut a deal on capitol hill. I think thats what well see in the next couple of days. Where is Mitch Mcconnell . Right now hes at lunch with mike pence on the other side of the billing. Building. He says there will not be a vote until there is a final global agreement to reopen the government. Hes putting two bills on the floor neither will get to the president or will pass or neither of which of the clean stopgap will pass the house. He relent that on promise which is hope and a sign of progress, i think, i am being skeptical here because i have been saying that for a while now. Hes getting off the sideline in a big way at this moment. Jake sherman seems a little optimistic. Not optimistic but i think the page has turned a little bit. The page is turning potentially. Damian, the headline of the Washington Post from you today is white house seeking into programs. It is only january. Mulvaney has asked Agency Leaders to identify the highestimpact programs that would be jeopardized if the partial shutdown continue to march or april. That does not sound optimistic at all. Theyre trying to wrap their heads around what they gotten themselves into. When the shutdown began the week of christmas, there was not much tangible impact because a lot of people are on vacation and not working. Now it is rolling on and friday is the second paycheck that 800,000 workers are going to miss. Theyre starting to come to grips of what they have done here. Obviously there are no food stamp payments for march. Thats 40 million people. There is a heap of other programs thats running out of money. I think theyre trying to wrap their head around how big of a problem it is going to be and partly they can take that to the president and listen, we dont have that much more time left. We have to do something quickly because the public backlash is going to come at us quick. As we started the show, hans, there is real safety and security risk. The tsa and flight attendants and air Traffic Controllers, those warnings were dire. One tsa agent spoke with our msnbc station, theyre not going to work because theyre worried theyll not get there safely, thats pretty scary. The president is doing this because hes talking about security, security of americans. Is the message they are sending getting to the president . No. And if it is, there is no indication that the president is altering his strategy based on these Public Security concerns of you and others have enumer e enumerated. What we hear from the white house of the consistent lie while there may be short term paying thats antidotal. They do not think of a longterm impact of job numbers or growth, what have you . Theyre confident that this is going to be a glitch in the words of larry kudlow that the economy will snap back. I do think it is significant that the white house is only focusing on the economic side of the story. Theyre not focused on the Public Safety side of the story. There is a crisis that the white house may not be prepared. You have larry kudlow calling it a glitch. You had trump calling it pain but better for the better good. Wilbur ross today says it is not a big deal. Hassett says the other day it is a free vacation for all of these employees. We are going to get to that later on. We have all that sound. The way they are talking about this hans, i mean it is striking how out of touch these people are. They are speaking to their base and people really want to have that wall built or with the president proceeding his base to have. As good as anyone on this knowing where donald trump can move and mix his own base to get the outcome that he wants. They seem to be insistent that this is something theyll lose a lot of political so forth for, they think the faith of the country on it and theyre standing by it. It is a question of how much longer nancy pelosi can hold out. The president blinks. I dont know if that means hes going to be more resolved on the bigger story or hes going to blink first on the shutdown. Donald trump believer base will go with him where ever he goes. Hey, i am going to take this money from democrats and i am going to call it a win from Border Security because it was a lot more than what they initially offering. That could be a win. He canc sell it to a win to his base. What the white house is not taken into account, the one who put him in the oval office are the people who strive donald trump because they thought they would get government working again and hell watch out for regular workers. There is nothing more, there is no more of a regular worker than a federal employee working for the government to make things better. Those are regular workers and the president is not watching out for them. Hans nichols. Jake sherman. David, thank you so much. Next, life is going from bad to worse not just for federal workers but for americans depended on programs funded by congress. We are getting more into that. As we wait for a vote on the senate floor, there is a new proposal by democrats over in the house. More cash for Border Security but no wall. Congresswom congresswoman nina lowey joins me next. Connected to eac in your family tree. I learned that my ten times great grandmother is George Washingtons aunt. Within a few days i went from knowing almost nothing to holy crow, im related to george washington. This is my cousin george. Discover your story. Start searching for free now at ancestry. Com and the army taught me a lot about commitment. 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These are critical Housing Navigation services that are helping people who are homeless off the streets in to affordable, safe decent housing through the private market. It has multiple effects from the individual to the community, to the state level. So if you are not able to help them, not able to help them pay the rent, is there a real fear that eviction will start happening . Yes. We have seen it across the country. There are different subsidies that are used to support low income renters. There were a couple of stories coming out of arkansas where Property Managers putting up notices that if the federal government is not paying the rent and theyre not in the business of free rent so if tenants could not come up with a full contract rent, which they by definition cant afford then they would be evicted. We have not seen anything like that in kentucky yet. I really stress the yet, we have at least 4500 families who are on a house Voucher Program whose guaranteed through february but march we would, the state have to dip into reserves and then from beyond that point, we dont know what happens since this is the longest shutdown in american history. We were in uncharted territory. You say families, can you describe some of those families . Is it other kids involved . Yes, there are. Of the population experiencing homelessness and kentucky and housing security. We do have a significant number of adults. We have a significant number of children in the school count thats done at the beginning of each school year by the Kentucky Department of education. We have 26,752 School Children who meet the definition of homelessness through no fault of their own. You sent a letter to Mitch Mcconnells office, well put it up on the screen and email it on january 18th, Affordable Housing advocates and producers in kentucky, we are writing to ask that you end the Government Shutdown and pass full Year Spending packages that support Affordable Housing in the community for low and moderateincome kentucians. Y you got a response from the white house that says thank you, adrienne. Well pass along your concerns. I have not heard anything. I dont really need a written response. I need the government open. I need it done yesterday. Because even if it were to be opened with the vote that are scheduled today which i understand neither it is likely to pass. We are looking at a months backlog of work of hud and usda. To think about the amount of documents and such that have to be processed, this affects even if government were to reopen tomorrow, this is going to have a long lasting ramifications around housing security into july, august, september, if we are lucky. I am looking at funding delays going into october and november and december of this year. Ultimately, you are going to have the power to help see who gets into congress. And who gets into the white house, 2020, the next election. Are you going to use your voting power to punish those who are withholding the funding from you or put somebody else thatll get it done . I want to be very clear, we are 501c 3. Organization. We do advocate. We do not endorse any sort of Political Party or candidate or any thing like that. We try to remain to focus on policies. We do believe Voter Engagement is critical. For the past several years we have engaged among our member organizations and the tenants that are in our program to try to make sure that as folks change addresses that they are updating their address, their Voter Registration and that sort of thing. I think with the Gubernatorial Race in 2019 because kentucky has that odd off year election, well be trying to get housing as part of the Public Discourse and something that aelected officials are talking about. Yes, i do think 2020 will be a critical year for our country. Adrienne bush, thank you for being here. With me now, chair of the House Appropriations in congress. Chairman, thank you for being here. When is this shutdown going to end . Oh, i wish i knew, katy. It is 34 days and listening to your guest on the show, you really hear the suffering, maybe President Trump does not understand people who live paycheck to paycheck or who depends on some of these feeding programs and housing programs to take care of their family. It is time to open up the government and then we can have serious discussions about how we pay for several of the items that goes to shut the government down are requesting. There is a new offer thatll be coming from the democrats potentially up to 5. 7 billion or more for Border Security including funding for ra smart wall. Can you tell us what a smart wall is . I find that proposal that you are talking about is interesting. But, there is no consensus right now. When the government is opened, well Work Together hopefully and in a bipartisan way and i want you to know as an appropriator, i always work across the isle. Then well come up with a plan that makes sense. Maybe there is some people that did not write the current bills and dont understand exactly what goes in those bills but first we have to open the government and President Trump has to understand how much suffering is going ton right no. There is a standoff right now. At what point will it be imperative to compromise between democrats and republicans, to compromise on something to get this going again . Katy, i am always compromising. Thats what an appropriator does. I compromise for the senate, i compromise with the house, the republicans and the democrats appropriations always Work Together. This kind of blackmail having the president of the United States who does not understand what it is to live paycheck to paycheck, closing down government of its 34 days. This is the longest time i can ever remember. This is immoral and it is wrong. Open up the government then we can have some serious discussions. If the democrats give into the president , hell continue to do this. Hell shutdown the government any time he does not get his way legislati legislatively. Do you think thats a Fair Assessment . I work closely with nancy pelosi, we Work Together for many years, nancy pelosi, is absolutely right. How do you gun the government with blackmail, we dont care about the tsa getting paychecks or people who depend on food and shelter and the basics of life. Open the government now then we can have serious discussions. I would not respond to blackmail. This president does not understand i gather what it is and how people are really suffering. Maybe you should get out there and talk to some people who were worried of how theyre going to feed their families. To vote for the two bills that are under consideration will start in about 30 seconds or scheduled to start in about 30 seconds. Both of them are expected to fail, what happens after that . Well, i would hope that we could get together again and open the government and have a serious conversation. You cant operate government by blackmailing. Let this president come and talk to us whether hes talking to nancy pelosi or Chuck Schumer or appropriators, we have got to open the government and then have serious discussions. Remember the very first bill that i introduced were bills that passed the house in the senate and we put in place of those bills, 28 days on the Homeland Security issues so we can have serious negotiations. You should not be running government by blackmail. Are you concerned that there are people out there who dont see it the way you see it. Look at the democrats and think to themselves, well, you are being just as intransigent. We have brought bills to the floor thats negotiated. It is important to know, excuse me, this just fell out. It is enforcement note that the bills were bringing to the floor have been negotiated and republicans and democrats so closing down the government is blackmail to me. Thats not the way this process works, you sit down and talk and have your differences and again as i mentioned before, i work across the isle, i work with senator lahey and senator shelby, we have a good relationship. Open the government, lets have some serious discussions so we can move the process. Thank you very much for joining us, nita lowey. President trumps Approval Rating has been down since december. The president is getting in the way of his own legislative goals. Democrats accusing mr. Trump of hostage taking tactics. Among the hostages have been his own presidency other than his single minded pursuit to the border wall. It has become as one Administration Official put it, a one issue white house. Joining me peter baker, and alena max will and brett stevens. Peter baker, the agenda thats being left on the table here and held hostage by this wall, what would it have been . Hes not spending his time in a public way way mamaking a pol ca politic public case for it. Hes planning to seek approval by congress of a new version of the nafta trade deal with canada and mexico negotiated. Hes talking about infrastructure package that can work perhaps across party lines and rebuilding bridges and roads across the country. These are things you have not heard about because it has been a single focus at the white house at the moment. Are they happy about this . Do you think it is worth it . At least they understand or believe that the wall has become so important to his presidency that theyre willing to push off the priorities. If they dont, they feel like the house in particular will be so enbeholden. President trump and the white house feel the other way around. If they show witness or looks like he can be pushed around, he loses his leverage in any future fight. The president is used to p paying attention at campaigns. This poll shows right now of disapproval poll. 63 , thats remarkable. Is he seeing that or feeling that or does he care . Hes singing it and he does care. Hes picking out number that is looked better for him. The one hes tweeting lately is a number of his Approval Rating of americans have been higher than i have seen. Even if you take away that one particular message or that one rum result, most of the numbers are very poor. His numbers are down by as many as ten points already. Brett, you made a face. Peter just alluded to it is the softening, hes down seven points among raindroepublicans. Hes down with Men Without College Degrees or woMen Without College Degrees. Thats core trump country. If he cant retain that support and particularly over this fight which he thinks is appealing to kind of navalist instinct. His presidency is in real trouble. Unfortunately for him, not for the rest of us, he boxed himself in a way that makes it impossible to come out of this fight not weaken. Matt vicar talked to the supporters there. People on the margins voted for obama but decided to take a chance on donald trump. They did not like hillary clinton, maybe throw a bam in the system, it would work. Now you are saying oh, the head does not really work. The president if he wants to know his base, he could read that article or keep oncoming to talk to me and i can tell them what people told me during the campaign. There were two believers but thats not everybody. We need every single one of those votes to get back to the oval office. The premise is wrong. Because you are sitting the president reading something and believe it and not calling it fake news. I mean anything that he does not like, hell categorize it as fake news and do whatever you want. We talk a lot about the president in terms of the shutdown because thhes the rean why this is happening. We need to talk about Mitch Mcconnell. He passed a bill where they can just pass right now. He does not have to put these two bills on the floor right now. I think it is interesting that he is putting bills on the floor which means hes there and hes present to actually do something. Why didnt we do this last week when people are missing the age. Hes not doing that, why is that . The president is the elephant in the room. He said he would own it and not blaming the democrats. M mcconnell has the power to end it. They didnt want to shutdown the government and they demonstrated that by passing bill after bill without any action. They voted for an adoption and dveto. It is clearly beginning to waiver, the republican senator from colorado. Rob portman in ohio or, you got to be thinking very hard of the wisdom of this. Is the Political Risk the same as republican in congress as it is sensefully for or whatever donald trump believes. Do they believe if they over ride the president , hey, we cant do this, we kacant put these workers in the crossed hairs. We can go back and negotiate. Do they believe it is going to hurt them . If i were Mitch Mcconnell, i would get there in the middle of the day to send this. S the so destructive for the party. The president paid another segment, why is this going on . Why is this happening for a wall that nobody wants and americans are going unpaid for a wall thats supposed to be paid for in mexico. Whats happening today should not be surprising that we come to this point. This was the way he campaigned or dealt with lawmakers and politicia politicians. He makes this big promises being able to work. I wish people would have listen to us. How out of touch of Donald Trumps family. Steve its with us, the vote in the senate has not yet started. Where he watching that. Zulina and everybody is staying. Come back. Verybody is staying. Come back. Th nice. Yeah. Yeah, this is nice. Mmmm how did you make the dip so rich and creamy . Oh, its a philadelphia family recipe. Can i see it . No. New philadelphia dips. So good, youll take all the credit. The company who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100 online. Now weve created a brand new way for you to sell your car. 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This is one of two proposals, theyll be voting on this hour. Again both are not expected to pass, both are expected to fail. The question becomes what happens after this. Back with me now is peter baker and miss maxwell. What happens after this . If you take this vote, members have enough support to get its version through and clear the way against serious negotiations. Both sides were sort of sending cig nsignals that they are read sit down and make a real effort and talking and compromising. You know at this point, it depends on who feels the pain the most, both sides are pretty dug in. Which senator are you going to be watching for . At the end of the day, a compromise, so it does not matter if coy gardner is feeling uncomfortable. Mitch m connell will be aware of coy garnder. He should bt be a slave toy and out of control preponderance the showing his own narccism. Thats one of the Great Questions of the day. Mainstream republicans live in fear of donald trump and his base and the threat they wheel against them. I think hes afraid of the primaries. I think Mitch Mcconnell is thinking of his own prospect. Hes fearful of a primary in kentucky in his race from the right. How bad was that have to get . I think they should do their jobs and not think about the next election, i live in fantasy world. It is not that he has trouble fund raising for his next election. The idea that hes doing this because he really fears for the primaries. I think hes teaching donald trump a lesson as well about how this is working. I think going back to my original point, he just need to stop. This is happening because he refused to do his job. Lets listen to members of the administration and Donald Trumps family talk about the shutdown. Mr. Secretary, there are reports that some federal workers are going to homeless shelters to get food. I know they are, i dont understand they are. There is no reason why should be able to get something against it. Okay. In terms of the workers coming to work and not getting paid, what will you say to them . It is not fair to you and we all get that. This is so much bigger than any one person. It is a little bit of pain but it is going to be the future of our country. We have a shutdown. And so they cant go to work and so then they have the vacation but they dont have to use their vacation days. They come back and they get their back pay then in some sense theyre going to be short. Well make adjustments, they always do. Those adjustments include taking a second job and well, going to your regular job which you are not paid for. Those are worrying of not paying your mortgage or getting evicted or deciding whether or not you will be brogrocery or medicine. Peter baker, is the white house concerned . Or, do they hear how deeply out of touch they dound . Wel around. It is something they have taken seriously up until now. The president heard repeatedly from questions from reporters. Sir, do you have anything to say for federal workers. He discumissed what people are going through. It has been something that they brush to address. I guess you have to conclude on that. Most of these workers and democrats anyway, you know eventually theyll be repaid so it will not matter. The coast Kawhi Leonard guar . Thats not true, when we are talk about the coast guards, you are talking about all employees across the country and furloughed of the federal workers who are not going to get back paid. I traveled yesterday through the airport, i was so sad for the people who were at work and not getting paid. Fundamentally, i think all of us can say if we are not doing our best work and compensated in the some ways. The reason why we are doing excellent work because part of it is the paychecks. I thought one name, maria antoinett. It is not just all differently. It is everyone who knows them, a father or a sun or a child. Thats a huge number of people. Leaving aside simple callousness. The political malpractice is stunned. I flew to d. C. And back the other day, it was incredible, there were no lines. They were doing no lines, they were doing their job. People were thanking them and they were saying it is part of the duty. It was amazing. At that point i think it was 30 or 21 days in they were getting up and going to work and trying to keep the rest of us safe as they do every day. I didnt have words for it. I think a thank you is just not enough at all. It felt silly to be like thank you so much. And im sorry that we have come though this. Joining me now from the white house is hans nichols. We also have Kelly Odonnell on capitol hill, the vote is going on right now. Both bills are expected to pass. The first one both are expected to faith. I have baby brain sometimes. Both are expected to fail. Youre doing news for two, we understand. Youre there, you have your ear to the floor, what happens next. There is a things to watch. From that is an opportunity for really lawmakers on both sides, the house and senate, to figure out now what do we do. There is a group of bipartisan senators, a dozen of them, who met last night and plan to speak out in some form after the votes are done about some of their ideas about where could Common Ground be found. It is also a way to test for the liberal left, the progressive left, not having enough votes to override a veto. That is part of what purpose of taking these votes is. Shape the landscape of what is not doable in order to open the door to what may be achievable. One of the things that we have seen is house freshman walked across the capital to join members of the senate on the democratic side in support on the floor. We talked about who gets access to the floor. That is adding some solidarity. Were also expected to hear from Mitch Mcconnell after this is over about what he believes the next steps are. What we have not had yet is a sense from anyone about a specific plan. They had these conversations behind the scenes. Another thing to watch is senators that vote yes for both measures. There is a handful in both parties, they say we have to get momentum. Voting for the republican and democratic plan to reopen the government. Look at them as a signal. Some are 2020 reelection, some are going against their party. Some are working because of what is happening next with their own election. So those are some of the tea leaves to be looking for in the afternoon. Is the president watching . The president is watching cable tv, we know that, but he responded to Nancy Pelosis press con for instance misunderstanding what she was trying to say when she was subtlely digging at wilbur rosss comment. Aside from a few tweets and them trying to clean up their incensety to federal workers. We have not heard a lot of offense from the white house today, mostly they have been playing defense. We have not seen a lot of proactive moves from the white house and we will see if that changes after the vote. As kelly is explaining, they are sensing what temperature is, what the number is, is it 56 or 57. That can open up way to at least what a deal might look like, but i strez might because the conversation still needs to happen between nancy pelosi and last we checked theyre not on speaking terms. Youre part of the problem causer caucus. I want to read out your record so far on ending the shut down. You voted no every single time without when a bill does not have funding without a wall. You voted no. How does that solve a problem . It solves a problem by recognizing what those votes are. Political cover or political theater. Were looking for a bill that can make its way through the senate. We in the problem solvers caucus, we were the only problem solvers in the white house. Democrats and republicans talking and listening to each other, and i tell you we had a great conversation there. I hope the senate today takes these votes and recognizes they have to get to the senate. Are you going to live up to it, it seems disinjgenuius. We were the only ones. These are all shou votes, theyre all politically posturing votes and we are recommitted on our side, these are all political posturing votes in the white house, what matters is what can the senate do. My hope is they can, and i will be here leading the charge on the republican side with my colleagues who are about getting something done and solving the problem. We will put our vote up once we get the 60 votes. This was created by trump. This problem didnt exist before this shut down. It didnt exist before christmas vacation. The house voted, the senate voted to pass a clean cr, they were going to the president. The president said he would not sign them. They were on their way to the president. The president said he would not sign it. He threw a wrench into the entire process and he created this problem. Do you not see this as something the president created. This is something i can agree with you on. Getting here should never have been the case. I was willing to support that cr, we have to fix the border at the same time. The reality is we are here at this point. How do we get out of here. Get in a room and talk to each other. That is not even happening between nancy pelosi and the white house. Thats what we knead to heneed m the democratic white house. The offer would be 5. 6 billion or more from Border Security calling what theyre calling a smart wall. Is that something you can get behind . That is a lot more money for Border Security. When you look at the numbers have cbp, from dhs, majority of drugs coming across the border go to legal ports of entry. It could beef up inspections there. That can go to money to help find those people. Isnt it a win to say im going to take the money for other Border Security measure thats will be effective. I think youre referring to what jim clyburn put out. That is getting us closer. That type of investment. Smart wall technology, port of entry reform, absolutely. Now were getting closer to where reality is that can get 60 votes in the senate and get the white house to sign it into law. Congressman tom reed, thank you for being here with us. Im going around what do you think. I think Mitch Mcconnell already passed a clean cr and he can do it again if he wants to. She speaks for me. Peter baker . Look, were 33 or 34 days into this at this point. You would think that it would be nice to come to the table and yet we have to come through this sort of theater right now and its not clear where it goes. Hans nichols, thank you very much, casey, what do you think . He is talking about being part of the problem solvers caucus, and yet not votes yes on anything that the democrats have offered to reopen the government in order to then have negotiations about the border wall. It feels like everybody is still very far apart. Everyone is definitely still very far apart, and it is hard to see who is solving any problems up here on the hill. I will say that it does feel sitting here today like we are perhaps headed in the direction that we were last week, but the reality is i dont think anyone here really has any idea how this ends. And with that, it is lovely to see you, katie, by the way. I am kacie hunt, im on capitol hill where the senate is at least appearing to take action to end the longest government shut down in american history. There are two chances today. The first not far from where i sit the republican option, expected to be voted down. Lets take a look at the two proposals, first the president ruled out last week including funding for his border wall and a temporary exattentitension fo and tps recipients. The