Working for stone in 2010. In august 2017 she took over as stones scheduler, but she says she did not work for him during the 2016 president ial election. Kristin davis is a good friend of mine. She is a brilliant woman who has paid her debt to set. She was not working for me during 2015. She worked for me during a portion of 2016. She went back to school to learn i. T. Skills. She has helped me build some websites. She has no knowledge whatsoever of any russian collusion, collaboration with wikileaks, or anything else having to do with the 2016 election. Stone is not only under suspicion, but might be a target of the special counsels investigation. Already muellers team has interviewed two people close to trumps longtime confidant. A third was held in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena. Ari melber broke the news last
Katy Tur hosts coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. Jail, or ask for a stay pending an appeal by a Appellate Court to test whether or not the summons was correct or not. Sometimes a subpoena is overbroad, sometimes it asks for material thats privileged. I would think he wouldnt be held in contempt unless he had no basis for it. We keep going back to roger stone and this is our lead story because this is something that keeps coming up with the mueller investigation. What does stone have to do with the russia investigation. And from what we have been able to piece together is that from other witnesses who have been interviewed by the special counsels team and the reporting that we have done is that it could be that muellers team is seeing stone as a back channel to Julian Assange, to wikileaks, and whether or not he knew about the emails that wikileaks was going to lease before they released them. After all he sweeted it will soon tweeted it will be John Podestas time in the barrel. It was John Podestas time in the barrel. Extension. Wikileaks is believed to be that organization. Stone is kept surfacing as a predictor of what was the information to come and the guccifer 2. 0 account was cited in there. That was openly available information. That is not really clear is which of these people or which of these things are coming up. So the manhattan madam, what did she have in terms of access . She knows timeline. She can help corroborate that. She knows communications and she may know finances. It could be about other associates she saw and you would want to confirm the timelines, especially when you are dealing with the wikileaks issue. Who is randy cred co . An activist in new york. He has been involved with politics. He does impersonations of people on phones. He used to go on the albany show all the time with the New York Post guy. What does he have to do with
roger stone . Roger claimed that he was his conduit or he was his contact for who gave him information in germs of Julian Assange or wikileaks and what was going to be released. I was asked about their relationship. It came in 2013 when we were going to use Kristin Davis to run as a libertarian comptroller against eliot spitzer. She got arrested, so we couldnt continue. He was a subject. What was interesting from what you were saying is they specifically asked me, what do you know about roger and donald trump . How often they communicated . Lets say at that time late in the fall, to which i gave them some information i knew that was never asked in the grand jury. They didnt need it on the record. Interesting. Sam nunberg, anna schechter, clint watts. Stay tuned. John flannery, we have more questions for you basil Breaking News in the Paul Manafort trial as we said up top. The court was scheduled to reconvene a couple minutes ago after an abrupt and unexpected recess this morning. The prosecution was expected to rest its case today, but then judge t. S. Ellis halted proceedings and ordered the jury to return at 1 45. It is now 2 12. We are waiting for an up jat from our reporters in the courtroom. John, given your experience in matters like these, Whats Going On in your estimation . Why would a Judge Halt Proceedings so abruptly . Well, there are two paths here. One is what was said by the judge in court as reported. There was a 15minute recess in which they talked with both defense and prosecution on a sidebar with white sound being pumped through the courtroom. And then he said that he had to take two hours. He being the judge, judge ellis. He said that he had other matters pending that he had to take care of. That didnt sound true to me
because hes been pushing this trial to go forward and the government would rest today. So it doesnt make sense to me that he wouldnt have scheduled that before the regular court date for this trial. There is also a report that he asked for the roll of the jurors. That makes it sound like there is a question about one of the jurors and maybe that juror or jurors is being questioned about what other contacts they may have had or what information they may have gotten that is prescribed against being received by any juror during the trial. There is also a strong instruction to the jurors when he told them they were going to have a recess until about 20 minutes ago, which is now extended, as you noted, and the instruction was whatever you do, dont talk about the case, dont deal with anyone, and thats a usual instruction, but those in the courtroom apparently thought it was very stern. The question of Juror Misconduct usually starts with an interview of the juror, if thats what happened, and that can be a
lengthy process and there can be a question of who else one spoke with and so forth. Again, thats a speculation. But it seems to fit more likely why weve had this recess than other explanations like he had to handle other cases. And just one other thing. There was a Sidebar Discussion between the lawyers and the judge a little bit earlier today that the prosecution wanted to get sealed. The judge agreed to seal the Sidebar Discussion. It concerned some of rick gates testimony, and it seems indicate, it points us to, and tell me if im wrong, but it seems to point that rick gates testimony could be about other things he said about the larger russia investigation. Exactly. And whether there was any coordination with the trump campaign. The question was put by the defense. Its interesting. The defense didnt want any reference to the campaign or trump. The judge basically ruled that that would be the case. Then the defense on cross of gates asked him whether or not
he had testified in cooperation with mr. Mueller about the campaign, and thats when it was objected to by the prosecution. Then they went and had the sidebar, and thats when, as a result of that sidebar at the end of it, the prosecution asked to seal the entire matter and there were no further questions and he wasnt permitted, as i understand it, to answer in the courtroom whether or not he had given testimony. And its kind of interesting because gates may have had some contact with stone. We have other witnesses that may be in a position to testify about contacts with stone. So this may or not well know sometime soon, i suspect, after the manafort trial, what the connections are. We can guess that mr. X is mr. Gates and so forth. Plainly, he has been cooperating with the campaign. That makes sense. He was working with the trump transition period as well. So he carries on after manafort
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that. Omarosa Manigault Newman says donald trump himself is a racist. In her book she claims the president used the nword repeatedly while taping The Apprentice and there are tapes to prove it. She says she has never heard him say the word herself, and was only told about the tapes through three unnamed sources. Nbc news has yet to verify those sources. Joining me former rnc chairman Michael Steele and szerlina maxwell. Glad you are here to talk about this with us. Before we get into omarosa, i want to talk about the state of Race Relations in this country. I dont think any of us should find it surprising that the president has intimated comments about the oneyear anniversary in charlottesville. After all, we saw what he said yesterday. It seems clear where he stands on this issue. Michael, what do you think about him going after the nfl today of all days . Well, katy, i think not to correct you, i think that was his statement about
charlottesville. Thats the tweet on the anniversary of charlottesville to continue to play the race politics of the nfl and to go after these athletes who, the last time i checked, as weve beat this horse many times, know have a constitutional right to express their views in that setting. So i think the president did respond to charlottesville through his tweet this morning, and it again is not, you know, a dog whistle or a bullhorn. Its all kinds of noise, but the fact of the matter is it plays to a Base Response that he wants to illicit, that gives him comfort and they are comfortable with the folks who love those tweets. Zerlina . I agree. I think the base of the Republican Party right now or some of the folks in the base of the Republican Party are very tolerant of racism. That is the state that we are in right now as a country. Charlottesville was a flashpoint for this country. After charlottesville, if you stayed on the side of supporting donald trump, after he said that there were very fine people standing among nazis, then you picked a side. You stood on the side of the line where you said nazis are perfectly fine with me. And i think that every single time donald trump says something that could be considered racist or is racist, we have a responsibility as citizens to call it out because there are actual consequences in the real world. Neil wilson as a young woman, a young africanamerican woman killed in oakland, california on Public Transportation allegedly by a white nationalist, and i think that when violence is happening in the real world to black and brown people as a result of some of this rhetoric, we have to call it out. We have a responsibilities. Talking to people who stayed in the administration after that, after donald trump said these things about charlottesville, i double checked to find out when exactly
omarosa was fired from the white house or left the white house, depending who you believed, and its december of 2017. Thats quite a while after, michael, what happened in charlottesville. Yet, today she is coming out and claiming it was uncomfortable for her to be there and she had to take a stand or she is claiming that this in book. What do you make of this . Hashtag not credible. You know, can we just not please, lets not go down this rabbit hole, people. I am not buying the, oh my god, woe is me, this was horrible when it was made very clear to us by omarosa that those of us who were repeld by this president s behavior, his words and actions would bow down to him. My question to her is, are you now bowing down to him . The rest of us who have a problem with this, which you now seem to have, we were told this would be the consequence. I am not buying this. Its about book sales. Its about being close to the president. It wouldnt surprise me if she and the president have worked out It Reality Tv Production and this is all just nor traumore d b. S. To distract us from the real narratives eat agent this country on race, on economy, on health care, and certainly, you know, everything else. I just im not playing this. Sorry. Lets play omarosa in that front line interview that you referenced. It aired in september of 2017. I can tell you, because i was involved in it, it was taped in the fall right after the election. So it was at least taped right after the election. Heres what omarosa said about president trump. Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to president trump. Its everyone who has ever doubted donald, whoever
disagreed, whoever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe. I mean, i think its ironic that today we are like omarosa said donald trump is a racist as if what he says in private he hasnt also been saying in public where we can see it for the past few years. He started as a birther. He said the central park five deserved the death penalty. Its not a mystery he is racist. Omarosa is saying what we all know is not really Breaking News. She is validating it. And as for those tapes, i have to say people have heard whispers people have been talking about the existence of these tapes. I think people have been tweeting about the existence of these tapes and demanding that mark burnett release them for many years. This is not new reporting. Its not new stuff thats out there. Nobody has heard these tapes. Nobody has gone on the record with their name saying, i have
heard this tape, i have heard the president say these things. Omarosa is now just talking about secondhand knowledge here. Something else. Moving on from omarosa. Lets go to fox news. Lets play, first off, what Laura Ingraham said the other night about the changing demographics in this country. Because in some parts of the country it does seem like the america that we know and love doesnt exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the american people, and they are changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us dont like from virginia to california. We see stark examples of how radically in some ways the country has changed. Now, much of this is related to both illegal and in some cases Legal Immigration that, of course, progressives love. Im going to give that to you first. I think we have to stop pretending this is not racism. This is plain, you know, open and out there racism. She is talking about race. When she is using the word Demographic Shift or the words Demographic Shift, she is talking about the racial makeup of this country and the fact that in a few years we are going to be a majority brown country. White people will not be the majority in the country anymore, and the folks that are not comfortable with that are consuming fox and its dangerous what she is saying. There is violence happening to black and brown people in the real world. I have a new clip in a moment. I am going to take a brief pause. We have news in the Paul Manafort trial. Michael and zerlina, stick with us basil that Breaking News in the Paul Manafort trial. Nbc News National security and justice reporter Julia Ainsley has just left the courtroom. Whats been going on . Reporter so, katy, we just got out of a three and a half hour recess only to come back and have the judge say, please bring your next witness. This is incredibly unusual because it was seen as there was
a issue with a jury. Over this recess the sergeantatarms was seen going to the zwrjury chamber, bringin them to the judges chambers. We have seen the court reporter. There will be transcripts of what happened come out later. We were preparing for a possible mistrial. We were just scrambling out here to give you the news to find they have called their next witness, dennis ricoh. He was on the schedule to go before the jury. He worked at the federal savings banks, which gave a 16 million loan to Paul Manafort. So the key here now is to see if one of those jurors has been dismissed. I was not in a position where i could see how many came in at the time. We are going to see if maybe perhaps an alternate there were four alternates in the case who might have swapped in with one of the 12 main jurors. One thing that the judge said today before we left for this long recess was to remind them at least three times not to talk
amongst themselves or with anyone from the outside about this case. Of course, thats hard to do because there is so much coverage of this case and there are so many high opinions of it because of Paul Manaforts relationship to the trump campaign. Thats what we have for now. We will be looking at that as we go. Come back out if you have any updates. Appreciate it. And now lets go back to zerlina and michael. I want to get one more beat on this conversation about race and play that fox news clip i teased a moment ago. Here is something from fox this morning. A hispanic guest saying that dems have to import Illegal Immigrants to vote for them, and also addressing black population growth. Watch. A lot of people in the black community are recognizing that the Democrat Party is throwing them overboard for illegal aliens because what do you mean . Well, the Democrat Party has
been so good at promoting abortion inside of the black community, has been so good about curtailing the population in the black community, its no longer a growing demographic in this country as compared to the rest of the country. So the democrats see their future of importing illegal aliens from All Over The World into this country and those in the black community here in the United States are witnessing the Democrat Party chucking them overboard. Michael, Whats Going On at fox news . I have no idea. I thought you would pass that one to zerlina. I mean, that was a meeting apparently i was not at. So, zerlina, i dont know if he had a meeting we dont know about. All of a sudden this is happening in our community . Look, this is the level of crazy that we are in right now. We are in a reality tv space. Every moment of the day is another episode of someone coming out speaking from a part of their body that the sun never
reaches, and i think thats important for us to give context to this and understand that this is gibberish. There is a Demographic Shift occurring in this country. On a conservative level, 2043 is the turning point. I predict it will probably be a little bit earlier where you have a black and hispanic, black and brown United States. There are a lot of white folks inside and outside my party, inside and outside the Democratic Party, americans who are not happy about that prospect. This is the kind of crazy you get when people arent happy. Okay. We are going to move on to one other topic. We are going to talk about congress. To do that i want to bring in nbc political reporter alley vitale. My cohort on the Campaign Trail in 2016. She is back on the road covering the midterms. There is a lot of drama within the Democratic Party maybe drama is an inflated word for this. But there is talk about nancy pelosi and whether or not nancy pelosi should remain as leader, and if it comes to that, speaker
of the house if the democrats are able to retake control. Nbc news has done a survey and counted more than 50 Democratic Candidates who oppose pelosi as the leader. Nine of them are incumbents. We know there have been an onslaught of gop ads against a number of democrats running for congress in the midterms trying to link them with her. Nancy pelosi is a gop bogey man. Whats going on . Thats exactly right. I mean, its not the first time we have seen republicans use this strategy of pegging every democrat in the field to nancy pelosi because to the average voter who doesnt spend all day watching cable news they have to pick the least common denominator of who do people associate with the democratic brand. As much as this is a republican tactic to trot out nancy pelosi to push voters back into the conservative camp, you are seeing in a lot of these red to blue districts that the dccc is
trying to bring back into the fold, its candidates who know if they take a position either way, yes, republicans will jump on them, but its also kind of hard for democrats to say im a firsttime politician, im running for the first time, sfroert me, and we are going to keep the same leadership we have had. As much as its a republican thing, the challenge has been that its from the left, its from folks like alexandria ocasiocortez who said she didnt want to vote for pelosi, now says she is willing to vote for her as an option. So its a really interesting trend. Maybe drama is not the right word. Its something percolating and it could become a little bit more dramatic closer to november. Is it because pelosi is part of the old guard and they want fresh faces . Is it because she is so good at raising none and there is a push back in taking money from super pc
pacs, cleaning out politics . Or because the gop have her to run against and they use it when they can as successful, i dont know, a baton as they can make it . I think its a combination of all of those things. The attacks on nancy pelosi and hillary clinton, too, i call this is the who does she think she is rule of american politics. You think its because she is a woman . Yes. Not only because shes a woman. Im not saying that all of the criticism of nancy pelosi is because shes a woman, but a lot of the criticism is because she was a successful speaker. She did not put any bills on the floor that did not pass. John boehner and paul ryan cannot say that. The fact that she is a very effective whipper of the votes, she always has a couple in her back pocket, makes sure that the legislation she puts on the floor is definitely successful. I think young ambitious men, they are the most outspoken in terms of their criticism of
nancy pelosi. I think we have to speak truth to power when were talking about women in leadership positions and ambitious women and how we critique them in a different way we do men in the same position. Michael, what are your thoughts . And i like to agree with zerlina. My take away is this key thing, having done battle with nancy pelosi directsly in 2009 and 2010 is she is effective. She is effective as hell. She is a very competent politician and, you know, i think a lot of democrats who underestimate her ability to work her will on that caucus are going to be sitting there with a lot of egg on their face come january of next year as they vote her in as the next speaker, if she wants it. Thats the thing thats going to be really the most important part of this narrative, is if nancy pelosi decides, yes, she wants to finish the job that she has started when she was speaker under this particular president. Then it will be a battle royale
because she will not go nicely into that good night. She is from baltimore. She is from a very, very powerful and Strong Political family from back in the day. She learned well the art craft of politics. You saw, to zerlinas point, she worked it magically to get everything she wanted done, done. Republicans cant say that. Even democrats before her cant say that. So you cannot take away her effectiveness. If she wants it, she will get it. Thank you for setting it up for us. Always good to see you. Lonely on the Campaign Trail without you. Dont worry. You will see me again soon. Michael steele, zerlina maxwell, thank you for knocking all the pins down for us. We covered every topic in the last 15 minutes. Thank you, guys. Up next, why a federal judge threatened to hold Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions in contempt. I was just finishing a ride. I felt this awful pain in my chest. I had a Pe Blood Clot in my lung. I was scared. I had a dvt blood clot. Having one really puts you in danger of having another. My doctor and i chose xarelto®. Xarelto®. To help keep me protected. Xarelto® is a latestgeneration Blood Thinner thats. Proven to treat and reduce the risk of dvt or Pe Blood Clots from happening again. In clinical studies, almost 98 of patients on xarelto® did not experience another dvt or pe. Xarelto® works differently. Warfarin interferes with at least 6 of your bodys natural bloodclotting factors. Xarelto® is selective, targeting just one critical factor. Dont stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor, as this may increase risk of blood clots. While taking, you may bruise more easily, or take longer for bleeding to stop. Xarelto® can cause serious, and in rare cases, fatal bleeding. It may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. Get help right away for unexpected bleeding or unusual bruising. Do not take xarelto® if you have an Artificial Heart Valve or abnormal bleeding. Before starting, tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures and any kidney or liver problems. Learn all you can. To help protect yourself from another dvt or pe. Talk to your doctor about xarelto®. Ive been Making Blades here at gillette for 20 years. Theres a lot of innovation that goes into making americas 1 shave. Precision machinery and highquality materials from around the world. Nobody else even comes close. Now starting at 7. 99. Gillette. The best a man can get. But he has plans today. Ain. Hey dad. So he took aleve. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Aleve. All day strong. These are the specialists were proud to call our own. Experts from All Over The World, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. Expert medicine works here. Learn more at cancercenter. Com but if something happened to you. You need Life Insurance and chances are selectquote can get it for you for under a dollar a day selectquote found michael, 38, a 500,000 policy for under 23 a month. Selectquote found anna, 37, a 750,000 policy for under 22 a month. Selectquotes secret . They comparison shop select group of Great Companies like these for your best rate. Give your family the security they need. At a price you can afford. Since 1985, selectquote has saved over a million families millions of dollars on Life Insurance. Call the number on your screen. Or go to selectquote. Com. Discover what over a
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countries. Joining me jacob soboroff, who has been following this story from the beginning, and retired immigration judge paul schmidt. Jacob, tell us what happened last night. It was unbelievable, katy. There is this case with eight plaintiffs in Federal Court. Its brought against specifically Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions for these new restrictive policies that make the bar higher for passing a credible fear interview to clear asylum. You mentioned it. Stricter regulations around domestic violence, around Gang Violence, around sexual abuse, and so one of the plaintiffs in this case, despite the fact the case was in the process of being adjudicated, was put on a plane and deported to el salvador yesterday in the middle of the case. The judge found out about it. Because the aclu brought it up in court, actually said in court, turn the plane around, and bring it back to the United States. The plane landed in el salvador. They stayed on the plane. The plane took off. Carmen is the name of the woman, the pseudonym in the case, and
her daughter headed back to the United States, landed in texas and the case continues. Again, the Attorney General, he threatened to hold the Attorney General of the United States in Contempt Of Court for this behavior by the government. And the aclu is challenging this. They dont think that this is a valid ruling or a decision by Jeff Sessions. The court is threatening to hold sessions in contempt. Lets remind everybody the latest numbers of families who are still separated at the border. 2,551. Thats the number that were originally separated. 559 are still separated. 365 parents have already been deported. Paul, we do know that its going to be really difficult to reunite those families, to find those parents who have already been deported. My question to you, given everything were seeing on this and the way that judges have even been defied, and the way the government isnt living up to these deadlines that are given to them, who is going to be held accountable for this . Is it going to come to Jeff Sessions actually being held in contempt, and what it should. It should. Katy, this is im stunned. Absolutely stunned, as somebody that worked for the Justice Department for 35 years, been involved in the field for 45 years. The level of disrespect for the judiciary, the unprofessionalism of the department of justice attorneys and the just plain stupidity of the Litigation Strategy under Jeff Sessions is simply stunning. Now, ill tell you that when i was the general counsel of the old ins, we had a few instances where, by mistake, somebody who was under a stay got put on an airplane. You go in there. You basically get on your knees. You tell the judge, judge, im so sorry, its going to be taken care of, we apologize. Ill tell my clients not to do that. You know, these attorneys go in and basically, judge, you know, its not your problem. I am stunned. Because they are doing it and they are shrugging their shoulders, as you just said, what happens after that . What recourse do the judges have to hold the government accountable for this beyond what they are already doing . Well, i think judge sullivan just showed you. I think i actually think judges have been remarkably tolerant. The judge in the separation of families case. Basically, the Justice Department took an in your face position of, judge, you find them. And the judge, you know, has worked to try to get you know, told the government to find them. But thats in in your face position. I think sessions should definitely be held in contempt, and ultimately he can go to jail. Thats exactly where he belongs. Wow. Jacob soboroff, what happens
next . Lets me say judge sullivan in the case in washington and then judge zabra in the southern look, i knew nothing about Immigration Law and immigration cases and what happened in Federal Court before i saw these kids locked up in cages. Judge sabra is the reason these children are being reunited in the first place. The government never had a plan. The aclu brought this case out here in california and the judge basically said, where is the plan . The government said, there is no plan. And a judge literally ordered the government to come up with a plan. That is what is being cared out right now. Totally remarkable. Jacob soboroff, remarkable, unbelievable. You name injury superlative. Unbelievable. Thank you very much. Jacob soboroff, paul schmidt, thank you as well. Thank you, katy. Meanwhile, dozens of children in yemen were killed when their bus was hit by a bomb. How was the United States involved . Your business. So this wont happen. Because youve made sure this sensor and this machine are integrated. Atta, boy. Yes, some people assign genders to machines. With edgetoedge intelligence, youll know your customers love this color, dont love this one. Never getting grape again. You can adjust in near real time. If someone tries to breach your firewall in london you start to panic. Dont. Youve got allies on the outside, Security Algorithms on the inside. If its jammed up here, its hot in here. You know both those things, you can do this. Your flowers wont wilt. At t provides edge to edge intelligence. It can do so much for your business, the list goes on and on. Thats the power of. When her patients Blood Pressure drops, she can share the information with. Dinner date. Meeting his parents dinner date. Why did i want a crest 3d white smile . So i used crest. Crest 3d white removes. 95 of Surface Stains in just 3 days. For a whiter smile. That will win them over. Crest. Healthy, beautiful smiles for life. Backpacks and school uniforms, covered in blood. After their school bus was hit by a bomb, a crater at the site of the air strike, the smoke of the blast visible from miles away. This little boy covered in soot and surrounded by the dead just minutes after the strike was asked if he was okay. My legs hurt, he said. Saudi arabia and the United Arab Emirates have been bombing yemen more than three years helped by intelligence, advice and equipment from the u. S. Theyre trying to fight off the houthis, Rebels Backed by iran. Saudi arabia and the uae said this attack was justified. The u. S. Said it had nothing to do with it. But as the war goes on, the consequences have been devastating. More than 10,000 people dead, mostly civilians. But its the children, half of yemens population, who bear the brunt of this war. Matt bradley, nbc news. Joining me from istanbul, borju. Thank you for joining us. Those images are awful. Can you just tell us what are we doing in yemen . Whats the u. S. Doing in yemen . Well, it was the arab spring and yemen fell into chaos, various factions started fighting each other. The houthis, which are aligned with iran, took over the capital. Saudis and the emirates didnt like that so they wanted to fight the houthis, and the u. S. At that time, the obama administration, was trying to keep the saudis happy as it was putting together the iran deal so it reluctantly signed on for this adventure. At this point, its just gotten worse and worse and worse. What was supposed to be an effort to get the houthis out of the capital of yemen that was supposed to take a few months has now dragged on, as matt
bradley pointed out, for three years. I get that. But why is the u. S. Directly involved in this fight . Why does the u. S. See it as a necessary for our troops to be out there . Well, i mean unfortunately its become sort of part of this almost sovietera style proxy war between the United States and iran. So because the houthis have gotten closer and closer to iran and to tehran and hezbollah, the u. S. Feels its sort of incumbent on itself to support the effort to fight it. You have a very poor country in yemen that doesnt have a lot of resources. One thing thats very important about it is that it abuts a very narrow stretch of water through which a very large chunk of the worlds oil supplies go through. And so in a sense, its a war over a very important strategic piece of territory in the middle east that the u. S. Feels is
important. So the u. S. Says it was not involved in this. The Washington Post is reporting on the nature of u. S. Involvement in general in support of saudi arabia in yemen and they report the u. S. Is helping the coalition. The only party in the conflict to use warplanes with refueling, intelligence and billions in weapons sales. The coalition mostly uses u. S. And britishmade fighter jets. Human Rights Groups and Washington Post journalist seen remnants of u. S. Made bombs at attack sites where civilians were struck. The u. S. As of now i think cannot say, and correct me if im wrong on this, but cannot say whether they made the bomb that hit this school bus, but heather nauert, spokesperson for the state department, was asked about this and whether or not the u. S. Would rethink its support for saudi arabia in yemen after this attack which killed so many kids. Shes called for an investigation and said that they
are concerned. Borzou, what do you make of that . Well, at this point, katy, the details that you mention i think are important but almost beside the point. The Trump Administration is so close to the saudis and the emirates, it seems to be you cant really distinguish where one countrys policy ends and where the other begins. You know, we basically through almost happenstance without really planning it have gotten into bed with this whole war and its really hard to get out at this point. Ugly things are happening. The war is getting uglier. You have Maggie Michaels of the Associated Press has been reporting on these horrendous human rights abuses allegedly at the hands of our allies in yemen. Were very close to the emirates and close to the saudis politically. Theres no criticism of anything that saudi arabia does at this point in the region. So it really, i think, hurts the
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