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(friends ooh and ahh) i believe that gravity brings i can make hospitals run more efficiently... both of those campaigns down. this isn't a competition! >> today donald trump sending out a tweet daring cruz to attack him saying, quote, i hope so. he'll like all others. will be easy. prompted the texas senator to back down writing, quote, the establishment's only hope, me and trump in a cage match. sorry to disappoint. donald trump is terrific. #deal with it. >> a lot of back and forth and ted cruz saying, hey, hey, hey. this is not going to be a foigt. >> what a smart tweet that was, kate. that did a couple of things, immediately put to rest any kind of a war between donald trump and ted cruz, at least from cruz's perspective. number two, it got in a nice compliment to trump and trump can't come out and say cruz continued to attack him and trump take that is audio recording as a first punch of ted cruz. cruz has some cover from that tweet saying, hey, i like donald trump #deal with it and cruz got in a jab at his favorite target which is the establishment. kate, i think in some ways the cruz campaign is correct in get up to 48 monthsw interest-free financing assessing that if trump and cruz were to go at it, it only stands on tempur-pedic, save $300 on beautyrest and posturepedic, to benefit candidates like rubio to sit back, watch them fight or choose $300 in free gifts with stearns & foster. the triple choice sale ends soon at sleep train. and continue his candidacy. >> we mentioned the new polls and anxiety over terrorism seems first come, first served basis to be helping trump the most. >> look at this. and no reasonable offer is refused! the new numbers out from "the new york times"/cbs poll showing you'll love your new future steel building. donald trump 40% of people are very confident. 31% somewhat confident in his ability to handle terrorism. but i want you to look at who's number two right there. ted cruz right behind him down ten points in the confident category and up there in somewhat confident. that is more forceful rhetoric with how to fight isis, carpet bomb them, so hard that the sand will glow essentially. so cruz understands and is seeing that being tough on terror is politically beneficial at this point. and it also is a way to talk about some of the >> after the sacrifice that our accomplishments or the achievements he's racked up that first responders made -- he can point to in his view >> boring! the media won't pay attention to coming to what he's done on the anything. senate side with pollty it won't pay attention to anything at all unless you are differences between himself and donald trump. >> these 9/11 first trump. >> halley out west today, thanks so much. responders -- let me tell you ted cruz starting to see the something, hey, these 9/11 first republican's party evangelical wing coa les around him, joining responders are the most top notch, diamond-encrusted hero me, msnbc political reporter america can produce. benji sarlin. kind of a good week for cruz on if i'm elected -- and i will be a friday. >> racking up endorsements and a elected -- i will build a wall around politics and i will make lot of ways everything is going politics pay for it. >> okay, that was jon stewart cruz's ways and the race is so making a rare appearance on late fluid and dark clouds hovering night with stephen colbert, around things. >> he got the three key wearing a big to look like endorsements in iowa. donald trump and the orange was supposed to be makeup. but sometimes past evangelical you have to watch the whole clip, but he was there to pressure congress to have champions, huckabee, santo couple, they had a hard time congress renew health care benefits for 9/11 first transitioning success to new responders. moments ago in an interview hampshire. >> iowans pick corn, new hampshire picks presidents. this is one of the main reasons. they have different electorates politico responded vowing to and they've condensed and new pass the bill. hampshire is much less religion anthony flammia, 9/11 first responder and director of community outreach at the feel and we see how that could happen. donald trump is leading the good foundation. thanks for being here. polls. not an overtly religious figure >> thank you. and on behalf of the feel good for the most part and tapping foundation and the entire 9/11 into a different base and there's also the more relatively establishment republicans responder community, we thank competing fiercely and camping out in that state alone like chris christie, john kasich and you. >> appreciate that. this has been going on for years. jeb bush really to present a you were with jon stewart, walking the halls, trying to get problem. now i was in new hampshire with people's attention. ted cruz and his campaign just >> yes. what does it feel like to have to do that? recently. they have a lot of confidence >> jon stewart was our champion. and we're in a good place right that their ability to organize now. the grassroots gives them a you know, we're not celebrating, this is not a done deal. listen, we're dealing with chance. >> ted cruz has money, a lot of money. congress let this bill expire. this cycle raised $65 million. 25 million from the campaign, 38 we're monitoring the progress of our leadership. million outside groups. we're standing with responders does that make a difference? right now, if we have to go back i mean, that's maybe different than santorum or huckabee. to d.c. we will. >> absolutely. we received information on an santorum raised little money and hour by hour basis. he has an angel investor. the negotiations are in their cruz is much more extensive with hands and i'm hoping they do the a big small donor fund-raising right thing. we heard senator mcconnell telling politico it will be done efforts and millionaires with by the end of the year, which incredible amounts of money they've told you before, i behind him. think. do you believe you'll get this he has that combination. some candidates have one or the money refunded -- or get the other. he has both. that could give him the chance program funded again? >> i smile and i say, yeah, to go the distance, especially okay. in southern states and cruz it's -- i'll be happy when it's feels like he has a chance to do signed, sealed and delivered to damage and make a difference. us. the devil is always in the >> benjy, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. details. upon. >> you were saying you feel while ted krus gained some momentum, he's not the only one insulted? in the headlines today. >> i feel insulted. a candidate's all-in focus on i have to come to manhattan in the middle of the christmas new hampshire appears to be season, it's beautiful to see paying dividends. for more on that, steve the tree, but i have to travel kornacki. steve? >> kate. down here once again to tell our that's right. here's a name you maybe forgot story, what we're doing and what we're going through. about but he is back at least i've been traveling to new hampshire. chris christie. washington for seven years with it's interesting. all these six responders and you know you lost his spot on it's disgusting we have to do the debate stage because the poll numbers so low just last this. >> what people may not month and in this new poll out understand exactly what happened in new hampshire this morning, to you on 9/11 and why this is donald trump in first place, so important to you. that's the headline. can you give us a sense for why look whou's in second place. this money matters to you and chris christie. your family? he is at 12% in new hampshire. >> the world trade center doubled his support in this monitoring program put me back into shape. poll. from just a few weeks ago. i suffered from numerous he was down at just 2% in new injuries, reactive airway hampshire. a couple months ago, what happened? disease, sign sightis and chris christie basically camped out in new hampshire. he's done the traditional new hampshire strategy of town halls, one on one meetings with post-traumatic stress. the program put me back to the voters, had a few good almost where i was. there's a lot of responders that moments that way and also picked up the endorsement of the need this program, that have the biggest newspaper in the state, cancer, that need the treatment, a very conservative newspaper, that need everything to keep the manchester union leader. them going. it's a life-saving measure that he is their candidate and they have to come through and do christie creeping up in new it. >> you had one of the toughest hampshire. what has that done for chris jobs that i've heard of on 9/11. christie? next week when that next you were dealing with bodies, republican debate takes place, you were running people to the he'll no longer be at the so-called kids table. back on the main stage. morgue, right? >> yes. i was assigned to the nypd they changed the rules after the last debate. if you get over a certain highway patrol unit, a city-wide threshold in iowa, new unit that covered the city of hampshire, you can also get on new york, and we responded that the stage. so christie because he's doing so well in new hampshire now on day, to provide the care that we the stage. could do, what we could do on the other thing this poll means, the street and also we dealt though, look at this. with families of the police rand paul, rand paul right now officers that were killed and looks like he may be booted off of the main stage. his poll numbers not high enough also the firefighters and i did a lot of those escorts, a lot of nationally or iowa and not high bereavement stuff and the enough in new hampshire so it remains to the morg. >> do you think if mitch could be that chris christie on mcconnell is true to his word the main stage next week and and this will be funded again by rand paul is nowhere to be seen, the end of the year, do you kate. think that's because of jon >> a switch. stewart? do you think it would have we had chris christie at the non happened without jon stewart? main stage. >> jon stewart's our champion. >> that's right. >> steve, thanks so much. let's dig in now on where and he did help the first time support for donald trump is coming from. on the five-year bill and he's our new nbc/"wall street helping now. just a continued push. journal" poll finds 25% of americans agree with donald we're right to the end on this. trump's call for a temporary ban on foreign-born muslims entering people in congress are the the country and the number rises narrators. we're writing our own story to 42% asking republicans. right now. in new hampshire last night, trump defended that proposal and it's just, it has to be saying americans can't be done. >> anthony flammia, best of luck blinded by political correctness. to you. >> thank you. >> we've got to get down to the coming up, it's a national crisis. tens of thousands of babies born problems. we can't worry about being politically correct. addicted to opioid drugs, but we just can't afford anymore to now a new program providing be so politically correct. hope. stay with us. [ applause ] >> joining me now, senior editor at msnbc.com, beth fooey with us. thank you for being here and breaking it down with us. let's talk about these numbers that we're looking at out of our polling yesterday. massive divide on the muslim band, first of all. which maybe isn't that surprising. >> yeah. well, republicans definitely are more open to it than democrats are. even independents. we are seeing this, of course, kate through the prism of trump voters and they have been among the most nervous expressing nervousness of national security and economic anxiety, too, that's another thing that trump is tapping into. >> one thing that fascinated me breaking the break down this morning was the rural versus urban. i guess it's not surprising and donald trump drawing rural and suburban voters. >> that's the trend. republicans are the voters of urban areas. trump's especially are voters of urban voters even others of republicans. >> what about the gender gap that we're noticing on donald trump? >> well, donald trump has never been a favorite of the ladies. put it that way. again, republicans are more -- it's a more male dominated party. women more likely to vote democratic, of course. within the party, trump has had extra work to do to appeal to women than carson for a while candidate winning more support of women compared to trump and now he's fading, women are looking around. >> looking at trump's comments also on -- it was his -- are his comments frequently insulting, women 46% say yes. men 36%. which goes along with what you're saying. >> exactly. his style is offputting for many women. >> i want to play sound of trump supporters, these are forecasts out on the campaign trail. >> who's cutting off people's heads in who's bombing buildings? who's bombing airplanes? not the christians. not jewish. not the buddhist. it's muslims. you got that on camera, sport? >> because he's -- i followed him for a listening time. i think he's a strong, gutsy leaders that says what he means. i think he's clarified it a bit so far after that initial statement. >> so i don't know the age of those two men but they happen to look -- first one looked at least a little bit older. he has older voters supporting trump. >> older voters, rural, voters with a lot less education and trump supporters, college educated republicans are not really with trump. he gets mostly people with less division and the rural, white, less educated men are trump's major supporters. >> "wall street journal" put it donald trump is a guy's guy. >> he's a guy's guy. >> thank you. >> so if you followed me for a controversial comments of the bench. we have audio tape of what while, you know that one of the supreme court justice scalia things i care about and report about is drug addiction, and said in oral arguments this week of black college students. particularly the heroin epidemic that's coming up next. this country is in the middle of right now. every 19 minutes a baby is born in the united states addicted to opioid drugs. that means, since this show began, two babies have been born addicted. back in 2012, i visited a hospital in virginia where doctors were overwhelmed by the number of babies being born addicted to drugs. it's hard to watch the babies suffering, it's harder to see it in person. but now that hospital has a new program to help those babies survive and thrive. cynthia mcfadden recently visited there for an investigation in conjunction with reuters. >> reporter: katie gooding, 26 years old and the mother of two, may look like the girl next door, but she's also the new face of heroin addiction in america. last year, six months pregnant and trying to stay sober, she relapsed back into heroin. her baby, kennedy, was born premature and hooked on drugs. >> i felt like i was a terrible mother for putting her through they come into this iworld ugly and messy. that. >> reporter: born at cable huntington in west virginia, they placed her in a new unit going through withdrawal. ideas are frightening because they threaten what is known. >> 14% of all babies who are delivered at our hospital in the they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. year 2014 were exposed to drugs. it's an astronomical number. >> the most innocent victims of the country's opioid academic. it's hard to watch. for too long we have looked away. >> it can be frustrating, yes, ideas are scary, because you do everything and they're still uncomfortable. and messy >> reporter: so recently they created lily's place, to wean and fragile. the babies off drugs and help but under the proper care, monitor and educate their they become something beautiful. mothers. they offered her entrance if she signed kennedy over at least temporari temporarily. if they both successfully completed the program, katie would get her daughter back. >> it was really hard. i cried for a long time. >> reporter: it's a tough love approach that lacy frazier wishes she'd gone through four years ago when her daughter was born. >> sometimes when i wake up in the morning, i think that she's laying beside me and then it takes me a little bit to realize that it's my blanket balled up. it's not her and where i'm at, she's gone. >> jasey died at six months old. prosecutors said her mother mistakenly gave her methadone. she's serving 15 years in prison. . jasey's life may have been saved if south carolina had followed a 12-year-old federal law. it requires states to identify and protect babies like her after they're sent home. >> did anyone ever come and see you when you got out of the hospital? >> no, ma'am. >> was there a safe baby plan when you left the hospital? >> just have a nice life. >> reporter: despite the federal law, reuters and nbc identified 110 cases in the last five years where babies whose mothers used drugs during pregnancy died the supreme court released audio of this week's key preventable deaths after being sent home. >> the federal legislation was affirmative action case arguments involving the passed 12 years ago and here we university of texas. it gives us a chance to hear exactly what justice scalia said sit and it isn't being enforced. that has caused some controversy >> right. now we have this epidemic and this week. the system is failing us at we'll dissect it with pete every level, and it doesn't need williams, also with us, mbs to be that way. nbc's steve kornacki and ari >> west virginia is proving that. >> and cynthia mcfadden is here melber. pete? with me. this 2003 law that you just >> first of all, a couple of notes. number one, the supreme court referenced, what exactly was it releases the audio on all argued supposed to do and why is it not cases every friday so this is working? not unoushl to release the audio >> well, the idea was that when but here's the context. a baby was born drug addicted, this is a challenge to that should pull the attention affirmative action at the university of texas at austin. of everybody. the idea was, that the hospital the school has a somewhat had to report to child protective services that this unusual program. it admits roughly the 10% of any child was born addicted to drugs and that should channel a safe baby plan, not to prosecute the high school graduate in the state and then three quarters of mother, but to make sure that the baby when they went home was the fresh men for the rest of the quarter of the class they in fact safe. >> and you said 110 cases, we use race as one factor in trying to get more diversity, what they saw baby pictures floating by -- >> that's cases where the babies call holistic review of the students. died later because nobody -- in justice scalia said in a most cases because no social colloquy with the university's services were actually involved. lawyer he asked whether using affirmative action actually only nine have fallen under might do a disservice to some federal law, it's shocking and minority students. here's what he said. yet there's no effect. what they could do is pull >> there are those who contend that it does not benefit federal funding, if states aren't following this law, they african-americans to get them into the university of texas could pull federal funding and where they do not do well as make them follow the law. >> i've spoken to women who say opposed to having them go to a they're afraid if they go see a doctor that maybe that means less advanced school, a less -- their baby will be taken away. there's this fear of child a slower track school where they protective services. is that part of this too? do well. >> well, i'm not so sure, one of the briefs pointed out because this doesn't really that most of the -- most of the apply until the baby is born black scientists in this country drug addicted. so regardless of whether the don't come from schools like the university of texas. woman is using heroin or has >> so this court -- been put on methadone. >> they come from lesser schools the law was designed to protect where they do not feel that the babies, not prostitute the they're being pushed ahead in mothers. classes that are too fast for so hopefully the federal law will starting enforced. them. >> and in fact, kate, there was >> and brave of these women to talk with you. a friend of court brief it's difficult stuff to talk submitted. it was sub mitted actually on about. and addiction is a disease. behalf of neither side in this case but pointing out research how is katie goodman doing? that two scholars say shows that >> well, the system worked. students who come from schools she is clean, she has her baby where they're less academic amly back. the system really worked. she and kennedy are doing just prepared more behind at the great. elite universities and in >> glad to end on that note. minorities they feel that they're isolated and they just cynthia, thanks so much. coming up, what justice don't do well and they might do scalia said about affirmative better to go to a school that didn't have as high an academic action, ari melber and steve kornacki weigh in on that. standard where they could maybe stand out more. he was referring to a brief. it has been a very controversial comment and a lot of people have said they thought that he was being racist but that's where he was coming from. now, this case was just argued and the decision isn't going to come until late june. eight justices heard the case. just eight justices to hear it. it takes five to win. (phone ringing) it does seem fairly clear based on the comments on wednesday and the votes in past cases that justice scalia will vote against (phone ringing) the university. kate? >> all right. pete williams, thanks so much. you can't deal with something by ignoring .t but that's how some presidential candidates let's turn to ari melber and seem to be dealing with social security. steve kornacki. americans work hard and pay into it, here in the newsroom. i'm going to start with ari. so our next president needs a real plan so, you just heard pete williams to keep it strong. describe what was said and (elephant noise) obviously some have taken real (donkey noise) offense to his comments. hey candidates! when's the context? answer the call already. why did he raise the question? >> yeah. when a moment turns romantic this is set off obviously a lot why pause to take a pill? of controversy but what the justice is basically doing there or stop to find a bathroom? is posing a question based on cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, briefs that have been submitted, two scholars put forward that like needing to go frequently, day or night. theory, the mismatch theory that tell your doctor about all your medical conditions pete williams was just and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. discussing and he's asking about do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, that. we heard this argument. what do you think of it? as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. by the end of the comments do not drink alcohol in excess. people said they felt like and you can hear it, we played it, side effects may include headache, upset stomach, maybe he was endorsing it but delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away justices and judges have to be free to ask the questions as for an erection lasting more than four hours. they evaluate the cases. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, i think there's more controversy or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, in things justice scalia written stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. and held on the court than the question and ultimately legally ask your doctor about cialis doesn't tell you his answer. and a $200 savings card. >> politically speaking, it's gotten -- fair to say quite a bit of attention. >> absolutely. in particular, among democrats, the left. scalia, a reagan appointee. democrats wasting no time going the great beauty of owning a property after scalia. >> these ideas he pronounced is that you can create wealth through capital appreciation, yesterday are racist in application if not intent. and this has been denied to many south africans for generations. i don't know about his intent. but it is deeply disturbing to this is an opportunity to right that wrong. hear a supreme court justice endorse racist ideas from the the idea was to bring capital into the affordable housing space in south africa, bench our nation's highest court. >> and, you know, kate looking at the politics of this, specifically this question of with a fund that offers families of modest income safe and good accommodation. considering race when it comes to college admissions, public opinion has been steady and one citi got involved very early on and showed an enormous commitment. sided on this through the years. most recent gallup poll and 67% and that gave other investors confidence. citi's really unique, of americans said in the poll because they bring deep understanding of what's happening in africa. that merit alone should be i really believe we only live once, considered for college and so you need to take an idea that you have and go for it. admission. 28% said race should be a consideration. politically, a one sided issue but the one thing to qualify you have the opportunity to say, that with is when you ask the question of affirmative action, "i've been part of the creation of over 27,000 units of housing," do you support the idea of and to replicate this across the entire african continent. affirmative action? there's also majority support for that. so people like the idea of affirmative action but they don't like it applied to college admission. >> we were talking about this downstairs before coming on tv about the fact they're jobs for developing news out of the life. if the politicians don't like supreme court today where audio has been released as it always what anton scalia said, sort of is on fridays, of this week's too bad. he is staying. key affirmative action case, involving the university of >> they have life tenure and texas. it gives us a chance to hear saying whether it's taken off the table or not. exactly what justice scalia said in other words, a policy debate. that caused controversy this the only question for the court is whether it's constitutional week. msnbc's steve kornacki's been to consider diversity in the following the political angle of this story and i'm going to come programs. to you in one second. it's closer and reaga reagan -- i want to start with ari melber who has been following the legal angle of the supreme court and scalia's words that have gotten so much attention. >> that's right, kate. cannot weigh in. i'm looking at the quotes here the u.s. military issued friend and the amicus brief that he's of the court briefs saying we want to be able to consider referring to. that's a friend of the court diversity, gender, race, when we brief which basically argued earlier this week that there is build up our officer corps and a problem when certain students end up at schools that might be, leadership and we think it helps the national security of the allegedly, too hard for them. united states and we want leadership that looks like that's a point of major america, that's what schools say contention and why scalia's and fortune 100 companies and businesses are free to do what comments were controversial. so now today as you mentioned, they want regardless of this we get the audio and we hear him ruling but public universities, the military, government questioning this lawyer about this theory, this so-called programs, this could have wide ranging effects and that goes mismatched theory. beyond justice scalia's question let's hear that. and to his answer. >> there are those who contend how do they answer this summer? that it does not benefit african >> we don't have a clue based on the arguments which way they're americans to get them into the university of texas where they headed, do we? >> we don't. do not do well, as opposed to people skeptical last time because they already affirmed affirmative action in the 2003 having them go to a less advanced school, a slower-track gruder case of michigan and took the texas case once and narrowed school, where they do well. it and sent it back down. people felt like affirmative one of the briefs pointed out action hanging by a thread and now this is unusual here they that most of the black are taking it a third time and scientists in this country don't folks view that negatively. come from schools like the working okay in their view in university of texas. the view of those jous tises that would probably leave it they come from lesser schools alone. concern about that. where they do not feel they're >> all coming in the context of being pushed ahead in classes that are too fast for them. >> so there we are today, hearing that for the first time. a massive presidential election. >> ari talks about the 2003 ruling, that was as the 2004 justice scalia referencing this brief, which by the way, is in campaign getting under way and what you saw then every democrat support of neither party. who was lining up to run for this was a brief that wasn't saying end affirmative action or president in 2004 supporting the keep it, but was putting forward idea of affirmative action in this theory. college admissions and i expect now i should mention a lot of as the case gans momentum and academic experts tell us this isn't a serious theory, that attention, hearing democrats to people do fine when submitted support this. not so much on the republican side. >> steve, ari, nice to site with through diversity programs and that the whole point of the you guys. appreciate it. programs, whether they're top demonstrators back on the march today in chicago schools, or the military, these programs are designed to make circulating a no confidence we fission for mayor emanuel. sure we have integrated classes, this as the family of laquan whether there's a class of school, class of military, or mcdonald breaks their silence class of corporate board about his death. members. a lot of questions on that and the court will have to answer, is whether they want to let everybody make the decisions for themselves or do what the court sometimes does, which is take it off the table and say, no, that's unconstitutional. so any public program or government program wouldn't be allowed to do it at all. >> and the history here, when they've ruled before? >> the court has twice upheld affirmative action programs in the last 10, 15 years. most recently narrowing it in the same school, university of texas after that narrowing. so a lot of eyes on this. as for what justice scalia was asking, i've been mentioning him asking a question or responding to that brief, doesn't mean he's endorsing it, but everyone i accept i'm not the rower i used to be.. understands he's ruled against affirmative action before and i even accept i have a higher risk of stroke due to afib, some people are critical and outraged saying, is he really a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. embracing something that is not but i won't accept is getting out there fair or true, or against people with less than my best. who do end up at a good school. so if i can go for something better than warfarin, i will. eliquis. >> over to steve kornacki, eliquis reduced the risk of stroke better than warfarin, politically speaking, this has gotten a lot of negative plus it had significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis had both. that really mattered to me. attention. people reading and listening to don't stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, what he said just don't like the sound of it. >> yeah, the wording and this is something a lot of democrats as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. have picked up on. he's been a favorite target of eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. the left, a conservative don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve justice, so plenty of democrats or abnormal bleeding. attacking the words that scalia used here. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily however, the politics of the and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. broader case here are interesting to sort out. when you look at this question seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, of, should race be a factor in college admissions. like unusual bruising. it's a question that's been polled a lot through the years eliquis may increase your bleeding risk and one thing striking about it, if you take certain medicines. the polling has stayed the same tell your doctor about all planned medical through the years, and it's or dental procedures. pretty one-sided. i accept i don't have to set records. the last time this came before the court, 67% of the americans, but i'm still going for my personal best. this cuts across party lines, and for eliquis. reduced risk of stroke said they believe merit alone plus less major bleeding. should be considered in college ask your doctor if switching to eliquis is right for you. admissions. 28% said that race should be a factor that's considered. you break that down by party, you're all set to book a flight even among democrats, 53% saying using your airline credit card miles. and surprise! merit alone should determine it. those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, so when you get away from the potentially inflammatory words making it really hard to book the flight you want. from scalia there, on the actual luckily, there's a better way... with the capital one venture card. issue, the conservative side does seem to have an advantage. with venture, you'll earn unlimited double miles >> steve, thanks so much. thanks to ari as well. on every purchase, every day. former oklahoma city police officer daniel holtzclaw was and when you're ready to travel, just book the flight you want, on any airline, convicted on 18 counts of sexual then use your miles to cover the cost. assault, including four counts now you're getting somewhere. of first-degree rape. 13 women, including a what's in your wallet? i tried depend last weekend. 17-year-old who accused him of attacking her while she was on it really made the difference between a morning around the house duty, all of the victims are and getting a little exercise. african americans. only depend underwear charles hadlock has been has new confidence core technology for fast absorption following that trial closely. and the smooth, comfortable fit of fit-flex™ protection. charles, tell me what we expect get a coupon at depend.com when the sentencing happens, and that's coming up in a while. >> yeah, kate, it will come up on january 21st of next year. just over a month from now. he's facing up to 260 years in prison. now, the victims and their advocates are worried that the judge will somehow make them serve that concurrently. they want to make sure it's there's a problem in the city of chicago when an officer served consecutively so that basically he'll spend the rest of his life in prison. who's sworn to serve and to let me back up and set the stage protect can gun down a citizen for the story. this is a police officer on the force for three years. for no other reason than that he his beat was the night-time beat was black. on the northeast side of laquan mcdonald represents oklahoma city. and prosecutors say he used his thousands of laquan mcdonald's. beat, and his patrol car, to same black skin. same poverty. prowl the streets of northeast same social and economic oklahoma, looking for women in injustices that are put upon this poor, black area of town. them but with different names he singled out black women and and different ages. >> that was laquan mcdonald's he would stop them to check them great uncle this afternoon speaking publicly for the first and make sure that if they had a time since that dashcam video was released of the teenager record, he knew that he had them. so at that point, he would force fatally shot by police officer jason vandyke in chicago. them to have sexual relations with him. demonstrations continue today as calls for mayor emanuel are it went on for about six months, growing. until he picked the wrong nbc's adam reiss in chicago person. a 57-year-old grandmother was again with me. stopped on a way from a dominoes adam? >> reporter: hi, kate. game. she was pulled over for as you said, that's the first time we have heard from laquan allegedly swerving. she said she wasn't. but when the officer pulled her mcdonald's family. over, he forced her to have sex. grateful for the demonstrators coming out day in and day out he left, and as he was walking calling for change at the police back to the patrol car, she said to him, thank you for not department. they called for anita alvarez, the state's attorney, to step killing me. she thought she was going to down. they did not call for mayor die. these women were terrified by emanuel to step down. we said in the last hour they this man as he did these acts. had asked for the mayor to step she was the only one to go to down. that's not the case. they're asking for more the police department and file resources to come to these charges against him. hard-hit neighborhoods on the the police department did an south side of chicago an they extensive investigation and want a national summit to found out she wasn't the only one. they had 12 other women who came include the white house to focus forward with a similar story. so the police chief fired the on police brutality. man earlier this year. in the termination letter he >> laquan greeted you with a told the officer that in his 37 hug. he was a jokester. that's who he was. years as a police official in he was the life of the party. he was just a jokester big kid. this city, he's never seen official abuse in this manner before, it was disgusting, he >> reporter: now, the mcdonald family will be looking closely at the sheriff's department here in cook county. the sheriff's department said. >> no, no, go ahead. responding today to reports that >> reporter: this officer wept on the stand yesterday as the there were two sheriffs deputies at the scene of the laquan verdicts were read. 36 counts. mcdonald shooting that they he was convicted of 18 of them. didn't report that they were but as i said, that's enough to there and didn't file a report get him behind bars for the rest and wasn't known they were there of his life. the da in this case said he will until the fbi found out months after the shooting. kate? >> more demonstrations today, push for consecutive sentences. he doesn't want this officer to adam? >> reporter: there were. ever see the light of day again. there was a group of community >> i was just going to mention, leaders, the reverend jackson, charles, that you talked about came to city hall. the 57-year-old grandmother calling for justice. janey loggins, she was with us they actually walked around city last hour with her attorney hall seven times. benjamin crump. it was about a group of 20 and and he alluded to the fact that we expect more this afternoon. all the victims were african >> all right. adam in downtown chicago, american. the jury was 100% white and he thanks. let's turn to baltimore now spoke about that. where the defense rested its take a listen. case today in the pril of police >> it's important to note that officer william porter who's charged with manslaughter, we must thank this jury. there was a lot of questions assault, misconduct and reckless whether an all-white jury will do justice in this case, and so endangerment in the arrest and death of freddie gray. they took their time and they deliberated and it shows that there's hope for our society, monday closing arguments are expected. there's hope for america, because their lives matter just as every other woman's life for more on that trial, i want matters. >> what are people saying in to go back to chief legal oklahoma city? correspondent ari melber. is there surprise that an all white jury would produce these so the defense rested today, ari, and we're headed for verdicts? >> not a surprise at all. closing arguments? if you listen to the district attorney and the police chief, >> that's right. the defense rested today. another big story we're they both said that the jury made the right and just decision following here in the newsroom with so many legal stories in this case. around the country, kate, and there was a few anxious moments the defense made their argument on the part of the victims and that this officer was actually the victims' families that concerned about freddie gray's something would go awry, but it safety and took the actions he didn't. in fact, last night in the took and we can note for you courtroom, as this defendant was that testimony does differ from the emphasis of the initial crying to the stand, crying in police statements right after his chair, the members of the the incident. jury were also crying. so at the argument there, the victims families were crying. big crux to hear monday going to in the hallway people were closing arguments is has this crying, cheering, and singing officer basically stuck to the happy birthday, mocking the broad same story that he with -- officer. yesterday was his 29th birthday, the day he was convicted. maybe with distinctions and changes to him did care about >> charles hadlock reporting this individual's safety, did there, thanks so much. nearly 200 countries working not drive the car or make any overtime to reach a climate decisions or actions intended to deal. we'll talk to a senator up next hurt freddie gray or as the prosecution suggested here in who's been in paris this week their theory of the case this for talks to climate change, was not a ride. about the hurdles getting in the way. wanna see, i wanna see. okay? this was a weapon. they used the car as a weapon according to prosecution, they longing. knew what they were doing and repeated stops, they knew he was injured, didn't tend to him and serendipity. give him medical care required what are the... chances. to under law and adds up the and good tidings to all. prosecution says to an intent to hang onto your antlers. it's the event you don't want to miss. harm this individual who's now it's the season of audi sales event. deceased, based partly, of course, on what happened in that get up to a $2,500 bonus terrible ride and we know to be for highly qualified lessees a tragedy. on select audi models. the question is was it deliberate, kate? >> this is the first of six officers, right? this is officer porter. i know you and i have talked about how this could be a precursor, maybe set momentum for the other cases. >> that's right. i mean, people remember the protests in baltimore and the concerns, this is fairly unusual i'm mary ellen, and i quit smoking with chantix. to see officers indicted this i have smoked for thirty years and by taking chantix, way, particularly this many. all indicted on the same i was able to quit in three months. underlying action or incident and that was amazing. and basically that this ride along with support, hurt this individual, right? chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. so we think the prosecution has it absolutely reduced my urge to smoke. started with what they believe some people had changes in behavior, to be their strongest case based on the statements of the officer thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood made, base and the fact he had and suicidal thoughts or actions interaction with mr. gray and while taking or after stopping chantix. did not ever belt him in. some had seizures while taking chantix. you don't have to be an officer if you have any of these, stop chantix and or lawyer to know, you're call your doctor right away. supposed to belt yourself and tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've had a custodi custodially, they have control of the individual, arrested him. serious allergic or skin reaction to it. did not belt him in. if you have these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away that's among the other items in as some can be life-threatening. the different trials are all tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems, about the same underlying incident and so the prosecution or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms thinks if they can win here, of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. "a," that gets them momentum and use caution when driving or operating machinery. maybe this individual testifies later against other officers. most common side effect is nausea. we don't know what happens but i can't believe i did it. i quit smoking. some of the reasons why you might start this way and then go ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. on to those remaining cases. >> all right. ari, once again, thanks so much. chris hayes host of "all in" has done extensive reporting of freddie gray's death and the unrest sparked in the community in baltimore and traveled back there to see what happened once the cameras were gone and what needs to happen now. >> cell phone video shows the moments after freddie gray -- >> seen on the ground with officer -- >> says the man's spine -- >> end up with a severed spine and later die. for my frequent heartburnmorning >> residents of baltimore took to the streets over the death of because you can't beat zero heartburn! a man named freddie gray. but days after peace profl tests ahhh the sweet taste of victory! eventually gave way to destruction. prilosec otc. >> that's it. one pill each morning. no more. >> the cameras came in. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >> definitely projectiles tossed to the police now. >> america watched a city in kay why is. >> crazy. i don't have any words. >> stop the violence, please! >> this is the story of what happened after the cameras left. >> the majority of the people that were protesting are still in the same predicaments that they were in. >> we went back to baltimore and spoke with residents assessing the damage. >> we didn't riot because it was something that we wanted to do. it's just that we're just tired. >> a police force under the gun. >> i think people are angry and it is not just with the police. >> and a city in the midst of an it's gotten squarer. over the years. enduring crisis. brighter. >> freddie gray became an bigger. unwilling martyr to make us hold up the mirror and look at thinner. ourselves. >> now, as the trials for the even curvier. police officers charged in but what's next? connection with freddie gray's for all binge watchers. death begin, a city with a troubled past. movie geeks. >> it's been going on way before freddie gray. sports freaks. >> and an uncertain future. >> how do we break the cycle? x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. >> finds itself at a cross droa. >> we are at a critical point in the life of a city. negotiations over a landmark >> "all in" goes back to climate deal in paris going down baltimore. >> you can catch the full report to the wire today. with chris hayes tonight 9:00 world leaders have pushed today's deadline for a final eastern only here on msnbc. a former oklahoma city agreement back to tomorrow. after a deal couldn't be reached police officer guilty of first-degree rape, the case between nearly 200 countries. against him included more than a some of the biggest hang-ups are dozen women. up next, we'll speak with up on how much wealthy countries owe to the developing world, and how of those women. thousands of people the emissions cuts actually came out today enforced. to run the race for retirement. joining me now, senator sheldon so we asked them... are you completely prepared for retirement? whitehouse. he led a delegation over the okay, mostly prepared? weekend. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. could you save 1% more of your income? >> tell me about the visit that you made. it doesn't sound like much, did it make you optimistic that we'll get a deal by tomorrow? but saving an additional 1% now, could make a big difference over time. >> i don't know about tomorrow, i'm going to be even better about saving. but it did make me optimistic that we would get a deal. you can do it, it helps in the long run. >> this is a very big and prudential complicated negotiation, and there may be a lot of things bring your challenges that take a little bit of time ♪ in the next few days to nail everything kids touch during cold and flu season down. but i think the general outline sticks with them. of a deal is already apparent make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. and i think in that, the cop 21 paris summit is already, for use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs sure, a success. >> seems like the big hang-ups better than clorox. are large countries -- countries the citi double cash® card. like india and china, they seem it's a cash back win-win. with 1% when you buy to be fighting transparency and 1% as you pay. mechanisms in this agreement. with two ways to earn on purchases, is that your assessment of it it makes a lot of other cards seem one-sided. too? >> well, i think they're trying to resolve issues about the transparency regime, but what's really important is that we got 150 world leaders in one place, and they agreed on an international regime of carbon emission limits. and that would be a way of reporting those so people could see how well they were doing. so what we're fussing about is the details of how that reporting takes place. but that shouldn't take away from what a big deal it is that we're at this stage at this point. >> i want to play something you said on the senate floor when you returned from your trip this week. take a listen. >> our senate delegation of ten senators was all democrats. the last political bastion of the fossil fuel industry worldwide is now the american republican party. no republican was able to come with us. the fossil fuel industry would never let them. >> so senator, if a deal is struck, if all these nations resolve their differences by tomorrow and the obama administration backs the plan, how do you get the funding necessary through congress? >> that is one of the issues in play right now in the budget -- or i should say appropriations negotiations that are taking place over the omnibus bill that we'll come back to. and the news that i'm getting second hand from the negotiators is that that seems to be in pretty good shape. the republicans are going to demand a high price for including that, but with all the issues that are involved, the president's going to be able to get his green climate fund. >> and this money, for people who don't know, the u.n. green climate fund. explain what that is. >> it's to help support nations that are at the receiving end of the damage of climate change, but didn't have the big fossil fuel economic growth that we did. and so it's to help them invest in new technologies and bring solar and things like that online in their countries. >> and can i ask you quickly, senator, with all the backlash against donald trump, the candidates who stand the most to gain are cruz and rubio, two men who you served with in the u.s. senate. are either of those candidates people that you could see as for no reason whatsoever, president of the united states? >> i think if you took a poll of pulled me over and fondled me his colleagues and if it was a and did certain things to me. blind poll, you'd find very few senators who could find ted cruz i was out there alone and as a president of the united helpless. didn't know what to do and in my states. even on the republican side. mind all i could think is he was going to shoot me. he was going to kill me. >> interesting. senator whitehouse, thank you >> that was janie ligens, a for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> now here's hampton pearson victim of daniel holtzclaw with the cnbc market wrap. >> hello, kate, another sharp convicted of 18 counts of abuse ranging from rape to sexual drop in the price of oil left the markets with the worst loss battery against eight different since the summer. women, among those charges, four the dow sinking by 309 points. counts of first-degree rape. a total of 13 women had accused the s&p losing 39. holtzclaw of attacking them and the nasdaq tumbling 111 points. joining me now is the woman you that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. at planters we know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just heard from, janie and her attorney benjamin crump just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, representing four of the women, as well. no matter who shows up. thank you both for being with us. appreciate that. janie -- [cricket sound] >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> do you feel like justice was richard. didn't think you were going to make it. served today? >> ma'am, to a certain extent hey sorry about last weekend, i don't know what got into me. but not completely. >> why not? well forgive and forget... kind of. >> because i feel like that he i don't think so! deserve more time than he's do you like nuts? going to get. i feel like it should have been a life sentence handed over to him. >> the jury recommended he be oh no... 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(unenthusiastic) oh... ha ha ha! benjamin, do you think -- what do you think will happen when joanne? is that you? sentencing goes? it's me... >> well, we hope that the judge you don't look a day over 70. am i right? will take into account that he did this to multiple women. jingle jingle. if you're peter pan, he violated the public trust. you stay young forever. but i think what ms. janie and it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. ♪ you make me feel so young... many of the victims saying he it's what you do. should have been convicted on ♪ you make me feel all the counts. ♪ so spring has sprung. all the of the women's lives ugh! heartburn! matter. >> you are a grandmother, right? >> correct. >> you were the first one to no one burns on my watch! come forward with accusations try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. against this officer. i can't imagine how difficult they work fast and don't taste chalky. that must have been, having mmm...amazing. talked to other survivors of i have heartburn. sexual abuse. alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. what made you come forward and enjoy the relief. tell your story? >> because he violated me and i couldn't let him get away with what he done to me so i had to come forward and tell the police officer what he had done to me. i went to a police officer and told him what he had done to me because i didn't want to see it happen to anyone else and just they come into this iworld ugly and messy. couldn't get away with it. >> i don't want to get too graphic or personal but asking this but he had pulled you over, right? and then you thought your life was in danger? ideas are frightening because they threaten what is known. >> yes, ma'am. my life was in danger. that's the way i look at it. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. he's a police officer. there he is with a gun on the side and demanding certain things from me so my life was definitely in danger. >> benjamin, how many of the women filed civil suits? is that the next course of action? >> well, the hope is that we can yes, ideas are scary, get forward justice and the five and messy women that we represent going and fragile. with civil litigation but it's important to note we must thank this jury. but under the proper care, there was a lot of questions whether all-white jury will do they become something beautiful. justice in this case and so they took their time and they deliberated and it shows that there's hope for our society. there's hope for america. because their lives matter just as every other woman's life mattered. >> did you meet with any of the other victims before or during the trial? >> no, ma'am. not at all. >> do you want to? >> the prosecutor did not want them to meet because part of the defense strategy was that this was somehow contrived between the women. >> i see. >> so they did not introduce them and met at the trial and jannie has been a hero because she was the first one to come out and all the other women benefited from her courage. >> right. i guess that's whether i ask whether you would like to get together with them now. >> sure. i would love to meet all of them. you know? you know, let them tell me their story. you know? because in their hearts, if they find that they can do that, i'm willing to listen and if i can help them, you know, i'm willing to also do that. >> jannie, benjamin, thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> thank you, kate. nearly there. the negotiator says they're nearly there with the final cal, this is about 78 miles sticking points of sweeping global reforms. we head to paris. southeast of san bernardino. >> yeah, about an hour away. understands the life behind it. the fire crews are out. it broke about an hour and a half ago. for those who've served they're launching a full-scale investigation with things so and the families who've supported them, tense, obviously with, you know, we offer our best service in return. the talk that is going around. ♪ we want to be careful with our viewers. usaa. we know what it means to serve. we do not know what caused the fire and the officials are get an insurance quote and see why telling us to wait until the investigation is complete. 92% of our members plan to stay for life. they're going to now unpack this incident. ♪ >> do we have any idea if anybody is injured or hurt? >> no injuries. ♪ everybody got out of the mosque. is social media is circulating a [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. picture of people praying on the ♪ streets. [ birds squawking ] it's friday, a very important day of prayer in the muslim my mom makes airplane engines that can talk. faith. >> cal perry, thanks so much. according to google, hover [ birds squawking ] boards are one of the most ♪ searched for items on the internet this season. but delta, american, and united my mom makes hospitals you can hold in your hand. airlines are three of the newest ♪ airlines to ban those toys due to the fire risks. my mom can print amazing things right from her computer. so are hover boards safe gifts to gift, we wondered. [ whirring ] andrew hawkins, transportation [ train whistle blows ] reporter for the verge. he's been covering hover boards, my mom makes trains that are friends with trees. kind of a fun assignment, except [ train whistle blows ] they catch fire sometimes. so here's the thing. i don't even have to look at ♪ google to know how popular they my mom works at ge. are. ♪ my kids want one. they're all over the streets. why are some of them catching fire? >> it has to do with the battery itself. the battery runs pretty hot. the airlines have a limit for batteries which covers most devices. these run higher than 160 mega watts per hour. that's a potential fire risk. >> what are the videos we're looking at? >> social media has been exploding with photos and videos of them blowing up in shopping malls. there have been a number of homes that have burned down to hover board explosions. people falling down and cracking their heads is another issue entirely. a hot issue this summer and hot for other reasons as well. >> do you have a sense of how big the problem is? my mom works at ge. ♪ does it matter which manufacture you buy them from? everything kids touch during cold and flu season sticks with them. >> the u.s. government is trying to get their heads around it. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. the uk did a study where they use clorox disinfecting products. seized around 17,000 hover because no one kills germs boards at their port, tested better than clorox. them. 88% were found to be unsafe. >> 88%? >> about 15,000 of them at risk for explosion. the problem is, all of these are some of these experimentse're notmay not work.il. made in china and, china has but a few might shape the future. this remarkably efficient like turning algae into biofuel... manufacturing sector, but not ...new technology for capturing co2 emissions... much oversight. we don't know where they're ...and cars twice as efficient getting their parts from, which as the average car today. factories create most of these ideas exxonmobil scientists are working on things. there's not a lot of oversight. they're shipped to the united to make energy go further... states and sold through ...no matter how many tries it takes. third-parties, so it's flying under the radar for about a year energy lives here. or so. >> so if you're a parent like me, and not to give anything away to my kids, by the way, don't even watch. no, but if you're a parent and right now, defense secretary you're thinking about, my kid ash carter and british defense really wants one, what's your secretary fallen with a press advice? >> i'd look twice. joint conference meeting to i think there's obviously been a number of isolated incidents, focus on international efforts but we really need to ask to combat isis after the uk formally joined the air strike ourselves why this isn't come pain against isis last week happening more often than it is. and have been talking for a few there are patent issues minutes about cooperation and involved, people are fighting in the courts. collaboration. i want to bring in chris harmer, and the u.s. government said they'll look into it, they're investigating it immediately. at the institute of war and good they realize it's a hot item this season. they're probably going to come to see you. >> thank you, pleasure to be out with something relatively with you. >> give us the context for this soon. that should give parents and meeting. two defense secretaries getting consumers more information. together and they keep saying >> consumer electronics show in collaboration and cooperation. las vegas, they banned hover what does that really mean on boards, is that right? the ground? >> well, we have always got a >> so ironic. mutual admiration society any this is the place where you time you start a partnership and display new technology. last year, they were everywhere. the british are a near peer this year, they've been banned. >> for safety reasons, i assume. competitor of the united states and there's not one company or and in this case ally. there's few militaries are up to manufacturer that you trust that our standards and the british we could say, check on this list and that one'sies that sell the, military certainly is. in terms of quantity, the u.s. military is obviously much bigger than the british military but in terms of quality, in do not make them. terms of process, it's very easy they come from manufacturers in to work with british pilots, china that are then sold through very easy to work with british third-parties in the united states. so you have funky duck, swag officers, enlisted men. way -- >> those are company names? they speak the same lang wang and it's very easy to partner >> these are company names. with the british and they've come out and said, our products are safe and reliable. advantageous for us political that needs to be fact-checked, i feel, by journalists, by the government. and diplomatic perspective with have them with us. the united states does not lack so there's still a lot of questions to ask about this. >> so there are other toys on for a lack of resources in the fight of isis. we are looking at a lack of the list of strategic vision how to beat them. the strategy pursuing clearly hasn't worked. layering more people is not going to make any difference in the short term. >> although we have heard secretary carter in recent weeks make comments about needing more cooperation, needing more resources out of europe, haven't we? >> yeah, i mean, we can see that ultimately isis is a pretty >> i don't even want to know small military. what that is. i don't now. 30,000 street fighters, they in the grand scheme of things, don't have any significant armor or artillery. is the hover board the one that you would be most concerned no industrial base and it's the about this holiday season? >> it's getting the most collaboration is not necessarily more military assets. more in terms of the attention. it's something that celebrities intelligence and more in terms have been using this season. of predictive human intelligence they post pictures of themselves rather than signals or electronic intelligence. united states is the world leader in terms of technical and on twitter, facebook. electronic intelligence. naturally, the kids want this. satellites, drones, aircraft, if they're famous celebrities, how can they resist asking their pick up all kinds of stuff. parents, begging their parents we are bad at predicting because to buy them. >> they're not cheap, by the we don't have the human way. intelligence networks across the >> no they range from $400 to middle east and need partners, local allies, the kurds, the about $1400. turks, other countries willing to help us to pick up on the >> i am saying on camera that my kids are not getting a hover human terrain we don't board. >> i apologize. understand. the british involved is good. john thank you for being with relieved some pressure and us. ultimately what we need is that does it for this hour. better help from the local arab and middle eastern allies in order to understand the threat better and how to defeat it. i'm kate snow. >> give me a read on what mpt daily begins right now. military folks are saying to you >> it's friday. about what they're hearing out the message is get used to it. of the administration. we heard secretary carter on those words from donald trump capitol hill this week saying himself to his own party. we have just over 50 days until things are going well, we have got momentum against isis. actual voting. what do people say to you? it starts right now. >> yeah, well, i'll quote you something that nancy yous sef tweeted yesterday. how many lie cans you hear in the pentagon and somebody in the pentagon told her? st iowa caucuses are a short 51 there's always one more. i'm not accusing the pentagon of lying. inalysis. days away. the holidays will gholobble up n there's a differential of the rhetoric and the reality on the more time. ground. the rhetoric is things are going 2kru6r7 is the unquestionable candidate to beat, maybe. well, isis is contained, on the verge of collapse, et cetera. party leaders have moved on to they have the strategic confronting trump a initiative. we haven't yet figured out how to defeat these guys and until we do militarily and have a political solution, this is going to continue to grow as a terrorist organization. doesn't matter to me whether or not isis actually directed the attacks as it was in paris or inspired the attacks as possibly the case in california. isis is a relevant foreign terrorist organization. we have to figure out how to attack them not just militarily. right now we don't seem to have a good grip on this. >> is there a frustration in the military brass that perhaps the administration isn't being forthright enough about what? >> well, i mean, so i want to get away from criticizing the administration and hope to express to the viewers we have to see this as multi-generational warfare and observe strategic or when i do my analysis and look at american public policy i don't look at the bush administration policy, this is the obama administration policy. we have to have as an american people a consistent policy that we believe will work over a multi-generational warfare. we did that during the cold war. didn't matter democratic presidents, republican presidents, republican or democratic congress, there was a sense of a coherent strategy of the cold war, the soviet union and the warsaw pac. i think we're missing a national narrative that really unites the american people saying this is how we're going to attack the foreign terrorist organizations, this is how we defend ourselves. i don't like to live in fear and personally i choose not to. it troubles me so many americans are living in fear. you see that playing out in the political discourse and winds up having security issues down the road. we have many allies in the middle east to help us. turkey is willing. jordan, egypt, saudi arabia even. a lot of countries are willing to help us. but there has to be a coherent narrative out of the american people saying we know how to attack the people. right now i don't see it. >> thank you for being with us. appreciate it. >> thank you. following new developments out of paris where a world lead earls are putting the finishing touches on a global climate deal that could be the most sweeping in history. negotiators have pushed today's original deadline for a final agreement. they have pushed it back to tomorrow after a deal could not be reached between nearly 200 countries. today, speaking on his birthday secretary of state john kerry sounded optimistic. >> there's >> still a couple of very difficult issues that we're working on and over the course of today, we'll have some meetings with various groups to work those through. i'm hopeful, i think there's a way to go forward, if there's a reasonableness. and over the course of the next hours, this would take shape, and it's possible that it could come to a conclusion sometime tomorrow. >> but major obstacles still remain. joining me now from paris, tony decopal -- ooh, look at the lights behind you, tony. you got a great location. >> yeah, greetings from paris. we're in the final hours here. would have been a two-week talk. really it's a culmination of 25 years of conversation, political discussion about what to do with clebl warming, how to solve this problem and the outcome will have major implications for the world economy. it's going to make a big splash in the american election cycle and it could make or break president obama's legacy. so serious issues, but i have to talk about the scene here. the french hosts have built a mini city just outside of paris. 22,000 people move through here every day. there are open bars, the french pavilion is an open bar. sean penn has come through, alec baldwin. but now all of that has been pushed aside and it's gotten very serious. right now, delegations are in a room just to my right, going line by line through a 27-page document. and the big issues are very big, money, responsibility, also verification. john kerry is in a room now with chinese negotiators. china's made a promise to cut emissions, john kerry wants to make it wide open. with the political context in america with a lot of mistrust over who does and said what. this went to 2:30 in the morning, the talks, and tonight, as you said, they're expected to go almost to dawn. we might have an agreement by morning. john kerry likes espresso, he speaks french. he's a pretty windy guy and we could have a positive outcome by down. >> let's hope so. i was going to say, it's getting late. tony, thanks so much. shutdown avoided for the weekend. congress buys some extra time to hammer out a spending bill to keep the government open. the big items the parties are still at odds over coming up next. rating. 97%? 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>> i think cruz can expect something similar if this gets out of hand. >> and on another note, we've been talking about trump seeing a bump in the polls. also "the new york times" says mr. trump has called for monitoring mosques and barring them from entering the united states has been the beneficiary of this moment of deep anxiety. what are they talking about there? >> this is something you hear trump's rivals complaining about. they say he's exploiting this fear when he makes proposals like banning muslims from entering the country. no doubt, people are afraid. there's this recent poll that says fears of a terrorist attack are at the highest point since 9/11. people are really worried about their own homes especially after the paris attacks. so it's a question of who can channel that. republican rivals are trying to make it about experience. well, if you're worried about that, you should go to the person who knows about the region, who can name the leaders, who isn't saying inflammatory statements about our allies all the time. trump is trying to make it, you should go to the person who is complete unconstrained and will say whatever he wants to this. >> benjy sarlin, thanks so much for being with us. donald trump leading the pack, now in the polls for 142 days he's been leading. for a closer look at his first-place standing and why there may be trouble in the early states, we'll turn to steve kornacki. >> we got an interesting situation developing in iowa. the first in the nation caucus state where we may get some clarity this weekend. let me tell you what i mean. we know ted cruz has been moving up in iowa lately, fueled by evangelical voters, abandoning ted carson. there was one poll this week, you're looking at it right here that put cruz in first place. donald trump said, i don't like that poll, there's another poll from cnn that has me, donald trump up 13 points, that's true. so the interesting thing to look for, we just got word that the most respected poll in iowa, the gold-standard poll, sponsored by the des moines register, that's coming out tomorrow evening at 6:00. that will probably give us our best indicator yet on how far exactly ted cruz has moved up and what effect donald trump's proposed ban on muslims entering the u.s. has had. in just the last few minutes, i take my phone out and read this. donald trump took to twitter and talked about this poll tomorrow. he wrote, never get good numbers from failing des moines register/bloomberg, i think something's going on with them. up 13 in iowa according to respected cnn. so either donald trump trying to set the bar throw for this poll that will come out tomorrow night, or did someone tip him off? we'll find out tomorrow. new hampshire, new poll numbers, he's well ahead in this, more than doubling up to second place candidate chris christie. the bad news for trump in this poll if there is any, or at least the worrisome news, if you add up christie and kasich and bush, these are the so-called establishment candidates. when you look at their supporters, they tend to overlap. the christie voter will tell you, my second choice is kasich. the kasich voter will tell you my second choice is bush. if you add those together, and you get 27, the trump number. if the anti-trump vote can consolidate, there's the potential for trouble there too, kate. >> steve, thanks so much. today, presidential candidate ben carson hit the campaign trail in iowa, holding a we the people town hall southeast of des moines. he published an op-ed in the british newspaper with the headline "donald trump may be afraid of muslims, but he needs to face that fear." >> joining me now, seen advis-- senior adviser to the carson campaign. >> good to see you. >> here's an excerpt, he says we should not seek to suppress the instincts of fear that donald trump and so many others feel when seeing a person who appears to be a muslim. as we know, fear can be a gift, but we have to acknowledge our biases and create safe spaces to speak about them openly. that's what's so dangerous about political correctness, it prevents us from having open and frank discussions. is it really political correctness that's the problem here, or is it a candidate who's calling for a religious test for people entering the country? >> i think it's two things you're looking at. number one, we have hit this political divisiveness, that political correctness means you have to be quiet. what dr. carson is really saying, you don't have to be quiet, we can have a safe conversation. how many times when you offer something different to somebody's else belief, they go quiet. we're all americans. many muslims are americans and they're great. but there's a different between the radical jihadists and a moderate muslim. we have to understand that. >> so from what you're saying, it would sound like ben carson disagrees fundamentally with what donald trump is calling for. can you clarify for me? he hasn't condemned it, but he seems to be saying, this is a terrible idea. >> yeah, what he's saying, we're american. if you read the constitution and the declaration of independence, it says, we are the nation, of the people, by the people, for the people. no place does it talk about a specific religion. in fact, if you talk about the separation of surchurch and sta that's not in the constitution. so what dr. carson is saying, let's get back to having a conversation. we have a war at hand right now with isis. these people, the radicalists want to come out and destroy us. let's focus on the issues at hand and let's all get together, unify the rest of america. how many times are we going to continue going down a path of making sure we have to say the right thing. let's speak openly, honestly, and let's have a discussion that's not about who can talk the loudest, but instead, who can bring great issues to the table and we can find a way to move together as all americans. >> dr. carson threatened to leave the gop today after "the washington post" reported senior party leaders had been talking about the possibility of a brokered convention. his campaign statement reads, if this was the beginning of a plan to sub vert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, i assure you donald trump will not be the only one leaving the party. is he talking about running as an independent? >> since we started the campaign, he's been getting 5,000 letters a week for months at a time where people asked him to step up and be the liter tth he is. so he stepped up, we're going to serve all the people. if we have an establishment -- we don't know whether this meeting did or did not happen. but if they're having the chance to broker these types of meeting, let's go down to focusing on the people. the people make the vote. it resonates with america, because it's the truth. >> and let me just ask you finally, my colleague was just mentioning this new des moines register poll that will be coming out in iowa, ben carson's been way up and then down some. what do you expect out of the new poll? any idea? >> what we're expecting, and we say this every time, it's a marathon, not a sprint. we're in the beginning of december. things are going to happen. people's emotions will go back and forth. as people start going to the polls and you see these reports, you'll see people thinking about who they want to be their commander in chief. do they want somebody that is emotional and loud and scream. or do they want a man that is used to getting calls at 2 and 3 in the morning, having to make life and death decisions and is calm, rational and takes everybody's opinion into play and makes the best decision for the country. >> i was hoping you'd tell me what was in the poll. >> we'll find out at 6:00 tomorrow. >> thanks so much. up next, new promises to help 9/11 first responders. plus an interview with one of the first responders who's been fighting on capitol hill alongside jon stewart.

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