Field, where players are protesting Racial Injustice. The President Tweeting about that. All happening as a former white house insider makes explosive, new claims about donald trump and the n word. Well share details in a moment. All going down one day before the anniversary of the deadly White Supremacist rally in charlottesville. A State Of Emergency already declared in virginia. Racists planning to take their protests here to d. C. Were talking with two women personally impacted by this violence. If mother of heather hire, the woman killed in charlottesville, will join me, as well as charlotsha charlottesvil charlottesvilles mayor. Also, the Manhattan Madame testifying today. Why the Special Counsel wants her and what she is telling our team this morning. Youll only see it and hear it here on msnbc. Our team is set up and ready to go on this friday. Were going to start with President Trump up add bedminster, putting himself in the middle of the culture wars again. Coverage of national and international news, including breaking stories. That the nfl is back, and so, too, is the president s crusade against these player protests. He was apparently reacting to what happened last night at the preseason game. A couple players taking a knee during the anthem. Few others raised their fists. When the president tweets and says, they want eed to show the outrage at something most are unable to define, the players have been clear. They were not protesting the anthem. What theyre demonstrating against, they say, is Racial Injustice and Police Shootings of unarmed black men. If you ask the question, why does the president keep ing to this issue . Well, people close to him tell me, and im sure you have this in your reporting, that he screscrew views this as a political winner. When things arent relevant for the base, this is the president s view. It is one of the reasons he talks about immigration and, yes, about this issue of nfl protests. Take a look at what he said in the past about this. Wouldnt you love to see one of these nfl owners when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out. Hes fired. Hes fired you have to stand proudly for the national anthem. Or you shouldnt be playing. You shouldnt be there. Maybe you shouldnt be in the country. Reporter as you mentioned, omarosa is also out with this new book. He was the president s top africanamerican supporter. She cited three unnamed sources that the president used the n word. She said there are tapes to prove it. Heres what the guardian writes. This is a realization that donald trump was a racist, a bigot. These are omarosas words. His freesquent uses of the n word is part of the appalling
black community. At the same time, shes trying to sell books. Thats something to keep in mind at the end of the day. It bares noting on the George Conway thing, he is the husband of kellyanne conway. Who still works at the white house at a high level. Yes. But George Conway is not Donald Trumps top supporter. He is not on the same page at his wife. True. We look at his twitter feed and see the times he subtweetingly criticizes the administration. The fact he is defending them on this, i think, is significant. When it comes to the tweet from the president , i dont want to be a twitter narrater, we all know how to read twitter, but the president talked about the idea of the players being unable to define why theyre protesting. Seems questionable based on our reporter because when you talk to the nfl players, who are sending a message by, for example, kneeling or taking action during the national anthem, it is a clear articulation of what they want. They want to draw issues on Racial Justice. Rapists, and things like that. He continued this approach during his black voter outreach, which was not effective, perhaps, obviously. The challenge with all of this, malcolm jenkins, so many players have written opeds, given interviews, repeatedly tweeted why theyre protesting. What hasnt happened is President Trump clearly articulating that he understands why the protest is happening. You wonder if this is another example of projection that comes out of the white house when he doesnt understand. He says the person he is going against doesnt understand, trying to confuse his base. For the most part, they tend to be falling for it. I want to touch on a final thought as we look ahead to what will happen this weekend and these rallies and protests in washington and elsewhere after charlottesville, a year after that. I covered the president , obviously, a year ago, and so did you. It was the question of, can you bring together the country at a time when they so clearly people so clearly wanted to be brought together or felt like
there needed to be a moment of june unity . Lebron james, a black athlete who the president insulted his intelligence a week ago, talked about this. What i noticed the last few months, that he kind of used sport to kind of divide us, and thats something i cant relate to. Sports have never divided people. It brings people together. The president has made clear that the politics of division, he sees it as a winning issue for him. Theres been no desire expressed on his part to bring the country together, even in the immediate aftermath of charlottesville, as you say. Is there anything you can point to that he is doing to help the Africanamerican Community . No. Hbcus, for example . Hes done a lot of photoops. If you talk to the president s of the hbcus afterwards, they felt they were used for props. So far, he sees his base as buying into these culture wars. Wanting to being in favor of his attacks on nfl players and
other prominent africanamericans. It is very difficult for anybody, other than omarosa, at least old omarosa, to get on board of the policies. Thank you. Eugene scott, thank you for coming in. Well continue this conversation with the new mayor of charlottesville, who is on our show live in a couple minutes, along with the mother of heather hire. Where we are now, a year after the incredibly important and pivotal day in this country. Also up next, the Special Counsel setting its sights on the Manhattan Madame. A longtime friend of roger stone, how davis might be a key witness in Robert Muellers investigation. We may be in the final hours of Paul Manaforts trial from the prosecutions perspective. Why the judge in the case, in a rare move, said sorry to prosecutors. I dont keep track of regrets. What theyre going to ask about. She says she didnt take over his scheduling, emails, Secretaryise Secreterial Work until 2017, after the election. Were focusing on the buildup into the 2016 election. Shes saying she wasnt working with him at this time. Clearly, prosecutors are interested in what she might have to say. Having been his secretary. What is roger stone saying about this this morning . He says he hasnt spoken to her about her testimony, on advice of his lawyer. He trusts shes going to testify honestly. He expresses his warm feelings towards her. He reminds me this morning, actually, shes extremely Close Friends to her. B godfather to her only son and loves the boy. He keeps hitting on that point. It also tells us, and is illuminating, how close their relationship is. There are a whole host of questions that the grand jury might ask her. Anna, youll be monitoring that and keeping up conversation with the principals. Thanks, hallie. Let me bring in a former federal prosecutor. Cathy, thanks for joining the show. What does it mean to you that Robert Muellers team is talking to kristin davis, this buddy of roger stones . The important thing is he is talking to more than one person who is close to roger stone. Theres been a flurry of activity in the last couple of weeks about a number of roger stone people that have been subpoenaed. I find it a little strange that she doesnt know what shes going to be asked about because she was interviewed last week. Right. Presumably, she had an attorney with her. Presumably, her attorney has gotten her protection, immunity or a promise of no exposure or any kind of prosecution or harm from this. I would assume that from the questions she was asked, that
she has a glimmer of what shes going to be asked about in front of the grand jury. It is the prosecutor who will be asking the questions. It is rare it happens but it is rare that the grand jury asks the questions when youre in a grand jury, especially a Federal Grand Jury. It is interesting she is doing it so quickly. She was interviewed last week. One of the reasons a prosecutor brings someone back to a Federal Grand Jury is to lock them into their testimony. To make sure they have them under oath so that down the road, they cant change their testimony, or to make sure they have them in the box. Roger stone was on cnn talking about some of this, cathy, and i want to play you what he had to say. Im also mindful of any prosecutors ability to squeeze underlings, to get them to compose testimony against a bigger fish. I have not been contacted by the Special Counsels office. Ive made it abundantly clear that theres no circumstances under which i would testify
against the president. I would not rule out cooperating if they think i can be helpful. Shat situation notwithstanding, does roger stone have reason to be worried . The reason he hasnt been contacted might suggest he could be a target, or at least a very serious subject thats being looked at. Generally, prosecutors work from the outside in. They go to people with less exposure or people they consider to be less in harms way to give them immunity or to give them protection from being prosecuted, to go after the bigger fish. In this case, i think they may be thinking it is roger stone. The fact he is talking about, he realizes people can compose or be squeezed would suggest that he is well aware of the situation, that people may be saying things that he considers to put him in legal jeopardy. Cathy fleming, thank you for comingperspective. We want to talk about the
orr legal battle now over in virginia. Prosecutors are expected to wrap up their case today against President Trumps former campaign chair, paul manafort. Big moment. We are staking out the courthouse. Who is the government talking to, calling as the final witness, and what is happening today and next week . Reporter well, just as i left, they were still getting underway. They hadnt called a witness yet. There was a lot of discussion between the two sides right in front of the bench. We couldnt hear. That seems to possibly be a disagreement or something to figure out logistically today. We do know the government plans to call four witnesses, hallie, and those would be the final witnesses. Two of those have gotten immunity, meaning theyve had actions until the past that could be criminally prosecuted, but they wont be because theyre koob rating. Thats dennis raico and james brennan, who worked at the federal savings bank, which is the bank that loaned manafort
16 million. It was run by a man who Democrats In The House are looking into, who may have been promised a job as secretary of the army in exchange for that loan. Were expecting more details on that. I will say, hallie, today matters for the prosecution. How they end matters. Going into this, how many witnesses a defense calls, whether or not they even call them, they want to leave this jury with an impression. The final witnesses really matter. There is a reason rick gates didnt come today at the end. He was a little more dangerous. He could have said something that would have upset some of the jurors. Many jurors think he should be behind bars longer for what he did. They want to end with someone safe but memorable. Makes sense why theyre calling the people who are at the heart of the financial crimes, but also someone who they can rely on to give an accurate portrayal of the facts. Julia in virginia watching it all. Thank you. The judge, too, apologizing to
prosecuting in aors in all of t we want to talk about how charlottesville is bracing for a solemn anniversary one year after the violent White Supremacist rally left a woman dead and dozens hurt. Heather heyers mother is here to talk about how life has changed. Heres what she said last year about her daughters legacy. They tried to kill my child to shut her up. Well, guess what . You just magnified her. For just 59. Ancestrydna can open you to a world of new cultures to explore. With two times more detail than any other dna test. You can connect more deeply to the places of your past. And be inspired to learn about the people and traditions
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rules for political asylum . It is about the harder line the Trump Administration has taken. There are those who do not meet the requirements, who are being deported. In this instance, she was a part of active little gaigation. The court is looking for what is the rem edy and who can be accountable . The Attorney General, the top Law Enforcement official in the country, to be threatened of contempt by the federal judge. That is the standoff happening case by case over the changes to immigration at a time when a woman and her daughter are at the center of this. We dont know where it goes next, except the case will proceed. The administration has held firm that they believe a narrowing of what qualifies as political assignment should be the way to go. Hallie . Kelly odonnell, thank you for that great reporting. Appreciate it. It is not the only immigration story in the headlines this morning, by the way. Laura ingraham from fox news, shes clarifying comments that got her in hot water earlier
this week. Here is what she said on her show wednesday night. Some parts of the country, it does seem like the america that we know and love doesnt exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the american people, and there are changes that none of us ever voted for, and most of us dont like. Now, much of this is related to both illegal and, in some cases, Legal Immigration and, of course, progressives love. Here is how she addressed the comments last night on her show. The purpose of Last Nights Angle was to point out that the rule of law, meaning secure borders, is something that used to bind our country together. Despite what some may be contending, i made explicitly clear that my commentary had nothing to do with race or ethnicity. All right. Kimberly and aaron are back with me now. There are a bunch of advertisers who targeted Lauren Ingram in
the boycott when the comments were first made. She went On The Air Last Night and said what she said. This is somebody who i have seen at the white house consulting, talking with folks she knows there, as sometimes happens when you are in the orbit with donald trump. Talk through a little bit of how we got here. One of the undertalked about story lines has been the mainstreaming of what people would call white anxiety. It is, of course, Starlted Durig the 2016 campaign, using coded language. Steve bannon and the nationalist elements, the breitbarts of the world were pushing this for a long time. The president , trump, who had sympathies for this argument, certainly seized upon that. Weve seen it not just come from certain elements within the white house, but also kind of seep into conservative media. If you look at fox news primetime programming, youll see a healthy dose of this, not just on her show but the other
shows that bookend her. This is a large portion of the country that relies upon them for their news. I dont think her comments were shocking in the context, but the fact she said this and is saying, oh, i was talking about the rule of law. She wasnt talking about the rule of law. It was Legal Immigration. She had a message to White Supremacists and White Nationalists, saying you are anti to the beliefs i hold dear. You have reporting on republicans and the idea, right, that there is a sense they need to come out and denounce incredibly strongly people like the folks who are going to show up here in washington, the racists who will show up. This is something the president hasnt done. White supremacists and nationalists dont have a place in the republican party. Denounce the protests or rallies that are happening in d. C. And across the country. This weekend, youd think you wouldnt have to tell folks to
do that. The republicans i talked to want to do that. They fear in the long run, not doing so is basically signing a Death Certificate for their party. Politically. Politically. They have to be able to appeal to young people. They have to be able to appeal to people in urban and suburban districts who find this repellant and dont want to be a part of the party that looks like it is protecting or embracing White Supremacist. Until ten hours ago, i was in new jersey because the president is there, and so is melania trump, the first lady. Her parents happen to be in the northeast, as well. Becoming u. S. Citizens. Via a process that some critics call chain himigration. Some critics including melania trumps husband. Why is it okay for the inlaws but not Everybody Else . Well, i guess because it is the law right now, is the argument the white house would make. It is the argument that the lawyer made. This appears to be the first time weve actually seen it confirmed, that that was the process that was used here. Theres been all kinds of
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charlottesville, since this rally happened . Well, in my community, i dont know. Im hardly there, except to sleep at night, buy a few groceries. Sleep at night. In charlottesville, change in personnel. More people having difficult conversations, hopefully. Hopefully that will continue. Just trying to get to the bottom of things. I know mayor walker has made some valiant efforts to make some change. Many a times, her efforts have been thwarted. Shes working hard to that end. Youve said before, susan, that youve had to hide your daughters grave to protect it, to keep that location secret. Is that something you still feel like you need to do . Always. Thats an agreement i had with the cemetery from day one. We dont want wellwishers trampling other peoples graves. We dont want nazis trampling
other peoples graves. If i needed further confirmation, tills marker is constantly shot up. The Remembrance Markers have constantly been vandalized. You know, heather is nowhere in the same league as that. She was not assassinated. She was a random act of a hate crime. But, yeah, theres no point. Weve got this memorial where im standing now for the public to handle it. You visit the memorial of heather. How do you plan to remember heather this weekend . Obviously, coming out and speaking about the issues important to her is one way to do it. Tell me more. Going to bring flowers to put on the street at the time when she was killed. Then im going to keep continuing with the work as i see fit that, you know to move Racial Justice forward. Justice for the lgbtq community. You know, i believe america is about give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free. That was the america i was brought up to believe in. Those kinds of things are what heathers focus was. Thats what she was standing here to support. When you talk about the work you do, susan, some of it, obviously, is political. I want to ask you about something thats happening in virginia, down there. The Republican Senate candidate, stewart, is known to embrace causes backed by White Nationalists, use divisive rhetoric. The president congratulated him, saying he shouldnt be underestimated. Curious about your reaction to that. My reaction is a nonreaction because i have the Heather Heyer foundation, a 501 c 3 . Im not allowed to have political opinions. Can you talk about whether you think the president has helped or hurt progress in
charlottesville . I personally couldnt say one way or the other. I can tell you what david duke and Richard Spencer and jason kessler, and i believe matthew has said, which is the administration has given them the goahead, the thumbs up, the wink and a nod. Thats their words, not mine. I have no information about it one way or the other. Okay. Susan bro, remembering your daughter, Heather Heyer, as we all are today, and this weekend. I appreciate you coming on the show and joining us here. Thank you for making the time. Thank you so much for having me. It is an honor. On sunday, of course, the oneyear mark of the deadly fights in charlottesville. Msnbc will be sharing the story of a former White Supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others. Breaking hate airs sunday at 9 00 eastern on msnbc. Coming up on this show after the break, the final frontier might be the next frontier for the pentagon, but what will the
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they deploy the troops out where needed. Whether in europe, pacific or some other thing. Space force, an equal service. Thats where it gets dicey. And you have a whole lot of polite smiling at the pentagon, saying were going hand this off to congress and everyone in congress is kind of saying, okay, lets bring it because its got to come next year in the budget. Congress has to approve a new branch. Theres not a whole lot of full support. Before i get to that. I think you raised something interesting, there is an agreement there needs to be a space elevation. How do you join the space force . Do we know . Like i did. I go to space camp. No. Twitter is having so much fun with this because there an Air Force Academy and naval. Is there going to be something
to recruit Space Rangers . People love this. People big the idea of getting the u. S. Back into space in a way in a competes with frankly, russia and china as we mentioned, who are making moves. We compete plenty. Wait a second. Jim doesnt think so. Heres what he said warning about u. S. Satellites. Being vulnerable. Predict weather, the way we understand climate and of course a lot of people dont realize every Banking Transaction in the United States of america requires a timing signal from gps which means if we lose that in this country, we have no milk in the Grocery Store within a matter of three days. Its a threat to the United States. Is he wrong . No, hes not wrong. Gps is kind of like the one topic that all the space proponents keep pushing on to reporters. Its serious, but look, the reality is you have is tsatelli
in space and people trying to attack. But weve had a story where the army and u. S. Military is looking at things like putting robot arms on satellites in space that could go up and physically and attack others. Thats all crazy. A lot of what this is about is human space flight, having men and women back into it. And again to have a space force, you need recruiting, uniforms, spousal support. A million things that are not ready and probably will never be ready by 2020. Well 20, the time line does seem aggressive based on the folks we talked to. Heres the thing. President trump seems pretty serious about it now. 9 wild thing is he was not at first, by his own admission. Heres what he said in march. I said maybe we need a new force. Well call it the space force, and i was not really serious and then i said what a great idea. Maybe well have do that. Its like a huge moving forth to make this happen. One political problem with this is that members of the military are important aspect of the support for republicans and the president. And the fact that he and mike pence are out talking about this amongst some people makes it seem like they really dont fully understand how the military works just as kevin was pointing out, the aspects already in place. While this might be fun and to folk fun at, it could be politically perilous in one way. Is it a good idea . Are russia and china weapon identifying space . I think the question like kevin raised is, is this a disproportionate response to a very real problem . You can talk about the fact that we need to even out trade with other countries, but do you need to launch a trade war to accomplish that goal . Do you need to take these very serious steps like creating a
sixth branch of the military to accomplish that . Youre saying the president is either 0 or 100. Theyre going have to put forward the funding. Sounds like youre saying hes 0 or 100 or not a lot of middle ground. Its almost like he likes big things. Kevin, its also seems to be politically popular, people like nasa and space. President s fundraising, sending this email to supporters saying its the logo for the new gear. Heres the logo option. Thats dangerous. I tweeted a little bit just quite a bit. Does the marine who donates the most get to rename . The idea to reach out to create the logo. Not really going to create the logo but to get people excited. The base is different that the military. Its not a voting block. Space force is a pun ch line. The Space Mission is 100
serious, you knnuclear weapons. Idea of the full space force was just such a flip ant thing, the reality of is is real thats why i think the pentagon has not in the first proposal said were going to start a space force. Idea to create a command i think is the perfect solution. Military will get a four star command, congress can say thats a good idea and everyone who doesnt want a space force can say we gave the president what he wants. Kevin, you have told us what your sources say inside the pentagon about all this but i want to ask kimberly and aaron, on any story, any topic, what are your sources saying about a story youve been working about . Ive been talking about democrats who are a little wary of Nancy Pelosis plan to tag. Because the democrats are in a
bit of a glass house about this. I mean they expect that President Trump and other republicans will fight back noting that senator menendez for example had a mistrial of his own charges. Other people such as al franken trying to make a comeback. Our sources say pressure is building on nancy pelosi to make changes on her own position. My is on the 2018 election. So the race for congress is very important obviously, the race for senate also important. Governors races are hugely, h e hugely important for democrats. This is the way they prevent republicans from being able to draw these maps all over again because they have monopolies on a lot of these throughout the country. Theres concern thats not being treated seriously. And the prospects are not as good there. I think were going to see a push over the next couple months to make sure theres an adequate
focus. Stakes are very important. Arguably even more important than whether they can win the majority in the house by a couple votes. Aaron, kevin, kimberly thank you. We want to wrap up with todays big picture. For it, were heading over to yemen where we told you about the saudiled strike. I it wouldnt warn you, this is intense. A wounded little boy. Hes in torn clothes, covered in his own blood, dust all over his face. He was hurt in that explosion, and here, hes waiting in the hospital in desperate need of treatment. He is actually one of the lucky ones because a lot of his fellow kids who were in that bus ready for summer camp didnt make it. War is now the worlds worst humanitarian crisis. 22 Million People need aid and protection. This photograph here by afp and getty