Keep the peace. Let me speak with some folks here. Excuse me, where are you from . Im from san antonio. Reporter were live right now on msnbc. We just wanted to know, why did you decide to come here to mcallen, texas, today . I was actually coming down because i was bringing them down tomorrow and i wanted to check out what was going on and i knew there was a protest, so i thought i would check it out. When you saw the bus come out with the kids, there were some tense moments, what went through your head . Why did some of these protesters go ahead and try to stop that bus . Give me a sense for the outrage here. I think as a mother myself, its heartbreaking to think of families being separated from each other. I think its heartbreaking to think of those children without their parents and how scared they must be, not able to speak english or know whats going on in this country. Reporter what was your reaction to the president s executive order this week, stopping the separation of families but continuing the zero tolerance policy. Do you think anything will now change . My question is what will happen to the 2300 children already separated from their parents . Theres nothing in place for those children. With this immigration system as it is, its pretty tough to find parents. Some are not even being marked as parents so its hard to reunite these families. Its not enough. Reporter cbp says its reunited the children within its custody but still am questions remaining, as you mentioned, 2300 children in hhs custody. Earlier today at this very facility before this protest started there were a group of 20 or some democratic congressmen and women who toured the facility as well. That was a question they had. How these hundreds of children, more than 2,000 children would be reunited. Do you feel the government has an adequate plan in order to reunite these children . I dont think so. And i think theres so much conflicting information from administration that its hard for Border Patrol and i. C. E. To keep up with the intake of these families. Parents are being deported while children are still in some of the internment camps throughout this country. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Again, were here in front of the Ursula Processing Center in mcallen, texas, where a protest is under way. Just about a half hour or so ago some protesters had stopped the bus full of migrants. You can see, if we lets walk over here. You can see the security that is now out in front of this facility. Mcallen, police, as well as cbp officers have now surrounded this Ursula Processing Center to try to keep the peace, thankfully. From what we can tell, there have been no arrests and it has remained peaceful except for those few tense moments when some of these protesters got in front of that bus. So, im going to send it back to you. Thank you very much. Gabe gutierrez in mcallen, texas, the site of that protest. Theyre outside that Ursula Processing Center. Happening right now in las vegas, nevada, a growing crowd waiting for President Trump to speak at a Campaign Rally for republicans ahead of the Midterm Election as the battle for immigration continues to be front and center. In homestead, florida, protesters are gearing up to rally for the march to keep families together. Thats going to take place outside the second largest shelter for Migrant Children in the country. Msnbcs ron hilliard is in las vegas where President Trump is expected to speak later. Weve seen the president speak several times this week. Yesterday he spoke with victims killed by undocumented immigrants at an event in washington, d. C. What are we expecting to hear from the president today . I mentioned its a Campaign Event for dean heller in nevada. What are you expecting to hear from the president of the United States . Reporter the political juxtaposition is quite telling. Youre in nevada. 25 of the electorate is a latino. This is a state donald trump lost by 22. 5 Percentage Points in 2016. Dean heller is up for reelection. Hes the senator, hes the incumbent and hes trying to hold onto his seat. Three years ago dean heller gave up a Campaign Contribution that donald trump made to him. The spokesman at the time said it was over Donald Trumps position on immigration. Earlier this week dean heller was one of those 13 republican senators that called on the administration to change its policy on family separation. We just heard from dean heller. He spoke for no more than three minutes at the nevada convention. No words on immigration. Theyre trying to push their tax message plan. The president , as you said, should be taking the stage here any moment. Just yesterday there was a lot of House Republicans over in congress that were rattled because the president sent out a tweet that all immigration plans in terms of any legislative action should be pushed until after november. Roopr really throwing immigration in the future up into the air while cal and gabe are out there, theres mayhem of where these children are around the country. Let me ask you about that mayhem. You look at what Gabe Gutierrez is witnessing firsthand on the ground in mcallen. Its confusion manifest, is what i would say. People upset with the fact they dont know whats going to happen, how these families are going to be reunited. I think back on what that woman said to Gabe Gutierrez, its want enough. Help us understand the magnitude of that chaos and confusion. Reporter i think the bottom line is its becoming clear there was no plan. There was no plan going into this when this country and the government and specifically the Trump Administration decided to stop separating minors from their parents. What what youre seeing is manifestation between lawmakers and media as well. Heres a perfect example. Yesterday we saw senator udall from new mexico coming here. He wanted to get into the camp. He was denied entry. He got into a little side room where he watched a cctv camera. He pressured and hes back today to try to get into that camp. Theres no guarantee it will happen. The breakdown between the administration and the elected officials in this country is simply astonishing. There are areas they cannot get into, there are areas theyre not allowed access to. Ill give you one more example, david. We know there were Young Children brought into this facility because we saw the buses pass us by and we saw the figures of Young Children on those buses. The next morning at 3 00 a. M. We saw three fans being escorted by suburbans out of the facility. 12 hours later, the senators go into the facility, come out and say there are only kids, maels between the ages of 14 to 18. Theres no freeflow of information. We dont know whos being moved around and when theyre being moved around. Its really chaotic to answer your question. Cal perry and ron hilliard. Protests in mcallen, texas, other parts of the country. Were waiting for the president to speak. Well continue to cover this throughout the afternoon here on msnbc. President trump continuing to call out congress for the migrant family separation crisis, writing this on twitter. We must maintain a strong southern border. We cannot allow our country to be overrun by Illegal Immigrants as the democrats tell their phoney stories of sadness and grief, hoping it will help them in the elections. Obama and others had the same pictures and did nothing about it. A lot to react to there from representative maxine waters, democrat of california. The Ranking Member on the House Financial Services committee. React to the rhetoric, the political rhetoric, if you would. Weve been focused on the suffering thats taking place, these families ripped apart, trying to find each other after this policy was put in place. Politics intervened. Weve seen the president s tweets. Youve seen the president s tweets. What do you make of his message to congress . Let me just say that americans all over this country are concerned about these children. And the president does not get it yet. He knew they were implementing a policy of separating children from their parents. He said it, Jeff Sessions said it, john kelly said it and they were using these children to try and get his wall built, by intimidating and causing chaos. Americans have pushed back on so forcibly and he wanted it to look like he changed the policy. We know there are over 2,000 children who have been separated from their parents. The parents dont know where the children are. The children are crying for their parents and americans are not going to stand for it. He had better find these children and he had better come up with a policy and a plan by which to do it or this country is going to go off. This country is going to continue to grow in protests against what hes doing. No matter if youre republican or democrat. Americans do not like the idea of snatching children out of the arms of their parents. They dont like the idea that theyre being separated and children are being traumatized. So this president had better move and he better move fast to get these children connected to their parents. Big question i have today, congresswoman, is what is Congress Going to do. You were backing a piece of legislation by your colleague from california, dianne feinstein. Donald trump and his racist jim crowera throwback Jeff Sessions have unleashed the full power of the executive branch to target, terrorize and target families, many of whom are seeking refuge from the very type of mistreatment in which they are now confronted with upon arrival to the greatest democracy in the world. In is a national disgrace. What can you and your colleagues do in congress to rectify this . Youre a minority in congress. What can you do at this point . We appeal to the republicans to stop being intimidated by the president. To stand up for this country and whats right. We have immigration laws and laws by which people can seek to be heard so that their stories can be understood about the violence going on in the country, the danger to their lives and their children and if the Court Proceedings could go on in the way the law allows them to go on, we could make a determination about whether or not these people are truly in danger, whether or not were going to allow them to stay, but this business of separating the children from their parents at the border and deporting at the border without people going through the process, the Legal Process to do it is what we have to convince the republicans that they must stand up for. We are in the minority. The democrats are in the minority. We have a few republicans who want to do the right thing. But they have got to get over their fear and their intimidation and stand up for this country, stand up for children and stand up for parents. Im going to put up a list of democratic colleagues of yours who have called for the resignati resignation, the secretary of Homeland Security in what weve seen over the last few days. Are you going to add your name to those ranks . Do you think she should step aside . Oh, absolutely, she should step apasseside. I have no sympathy for these people in the administration who know its wrong for what theyre doing on so many fronts. They end to not want to confront this president or even leave, but they know what theyre doing is wrong. I want to tell you, these members of his cabinet who remain and try to defend him, they wont be able to go to a restaurant, they wont be able to stop at a gas station, theyre not going to be able to shop at a department store. The people are going to turn on them. Theyre going to protest. Theyre absolutely going to harass them until they decide that theyre going to tell the president , no, i cant hang with you. This is wrong, this is unconscionable, we cant do this to children. We saw Sarah Huckabee sanders turned away from a restaurant in lexington, virginia, yesterday because of her affiliation with the president. Let me ask you lastly here about policy. Youre on House Financial Services, you keep track of policies put in place by the white house. Let me broaden that. Talking with my colleague cal perry at the border in torrino, texas, at one of these tent facilities, he says its becoming clear there is no mpla. How emblematic is that of the way this administration is handling the policy . This president wakes up in the morning and tweets policy. He does not work with his experts, he does not work with his personnel. He is creating Public Policy on his own by himself in whatever way he decides it should go in the morning when he wakes up. This is outrageous. He is absolutely being destructive to this country. I dont know why people are not screaming in the streets about what we are experiencing with this president. I have said all along, he is a dishonorable man, a despicable human being, he has no good values, hes dangerous, he does not care about our democracy, hes is with putin, he likes the strong man and the dictators of the world. Thats who hes looking to be friends with because hes just like them and he wants to be just like them. He wants to runl this country like them. Weve got to push back. Weve got to say no. I, for example, have stepped way out there. I said this man needs to be impeached. I know a lot of people think were not ready to say that. Some people have said a long time ago he would become president ial. He will never be president ial. This man does not have any good values. I believe he needs to be impeached. As a matter of fact, a long time before hes doing what hes doing now with these children. I think he had done enough to undermine this country and to have us understand we cannot trust him, that we should have come with an impeachment resolution. So, i believe we cannot wait until the next president ial election. We have to resist him. I want to see him impeached. Congresswoman, thank you very much. Great to speak with you. Appreciate the time on this saturday. Youre welcome. Maxine waters, thank you. Backtracking next, attorney general Jeff Sessions evolving explanation for the white houses zero tolerance policy on immigration. Nished preparing him for college. In 24 hours, youll send him off thinking youve done everything for his wellbeing. But meningitis b progresses quickly and can be fatal, sometimes within 24 hours. While meningitis b is uncommon, about 1 in 10 infected will die. Like millions of others, your teen may not be vaccinated against meningitis b. Meningitis b strikes quickly. Be quick to talk to your teens doctor about a meningitis b vaccine. 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Put intentions aside, nearly 2,000 Migrant Children remain split from their parents and theres still no clear plan in place for reuniting these families. Joining me is jeremy peters, a reporter for the New York Times, natasha is a staff writer at at the lanticthe atl the date line is leesburg, virginia, you talk to Trump Supporters across the country about many things, in part, how they reacted to this story that i just mentioned, this immigration story. What did you hear inning aggreg . I think there are a lot of people uncomfortable with the policy of separating Young Children from their parents, but at the same sometime, if they support President Trump and they see President Trump taking heat from a left and a Mainstream Media they see as hostile and hellbent on taking out this president , they kind of retreat into this almost defensive, like, crouch. Theres this protective behavior where they defend the president even though they may not agree with him because they see the reaction to him as being so overheat. I think this is a really powerful impulse that democrats need to take into account going into november. You know, its still going to be very hard for republicans to hang onto the house. But they do have this advantage in that they are incredibly united right now around trump. These crises that seem to a lot of people who arent Trump Supporters to be, you know, signs of dysfunction and coldheartedness, frankly, inside the white house. Theyre actually seen as something of a rallying cry for a lot of republicans. You marry your reporting with the latest polling data. I want to pull this up from gallup, looking at his support among republicans, its at 90 . Thats astonishing. That gave me pause on what ive seen over the course of the week here as republicans have tried to pass some immigration legislation. Natasha, i want to get your reaction to this, someone jeremy talked to in this piece, julie knight in Washington State and she says, it bothers me he doesnt tell the truth, but i guess i kind of expect that, also from the media, not to tell the truth or to slant it one way. If anything, looking at this issue, looking at the immigration issue, you have had this administration lying about the policy that was put in place. Truth has become this elusary thing over the last week. Whats ironic is you also have Trump Supporters who say, i dont trust the images coming out of the Detention Centers and the images of the kids. The fact of the matter is its been the Trump Administration releasing these photos to begin with because there are no photographs allowed in these centers. I think that its really ironic how much Trump Supporters are rallying around the president on this since hes framed the whole issue within National Security terms. But the fact of the matter is, hes now ordered his attorney general to this zero tolerance immigration policy. When you talk to public defenders in these border districts, they say, yeah, theres been a huge plunge in the number of cases, drugrelated and Human Trafficking related, that have been prosecuted since this zero tolerance immigration policy began because we simply cant do everything. Weve been there are hundreds of cases daily where people are entering into the country illegally. These are misdemeanor crimes whereas the people who are smuggling drugs in the country, they just dont have the resources to prosecute that. So es is he shally theyre diverting resources from the crimes trump has said he wants to stop, which is the flow of drugs into this is country, crime in this country, in order to throw people in jail for ten days or so, pay a 10 fine and deport them right back. Jeremy, i want to get a sense of you how the president has made this issue so resonant with voters, with republicans, with the socalled compromise legislation where you have some republicans trying to marry this with the conservative members. How effective has he been in making this a Trump Republican Party . I cite that 90 figure which i find astonishing here. To my mind at least hes been effective governing what the policy priorities are. Thats exactly right. You not only have him setting the agenda, you have him reshaping the opinion of republican voters. Look at where theyve come on issues of free trade, on views of Vladimir Putin. One of the statistics we cite in this story is the favorable rating that Vladimir Putin has among republicans has doubled since 2015. You know, you also have the increasing tolerance among republicans, especially among white evangelical christians for Public Officials to behave immorally in public office. It used to be that when you asked on a questionnaire, do you as a republican or evangelical think its discrediting for a politician to behavior immorally in private life, they would say yes. Now they no longer say is that. Natasha, you covered the russia investigation so quickly. Thats not getting a lot of traction with people across the country. Whats going to make people care more about it as you watch it play out, as you watch bob muellers investigation play out, as we await his conclusions . Its interesting muellers poll numbers seem to be going down among a certain segment of the population, even though its a secret investigation. We really dont know what mueller has. We know that hes doing an obstruction report, which is allegedly going to implicate the president. We know he is still investigating the collusion angle. I think whats going to matter here is when he finds the Trump Campaign did collude with the russians or didnt collude with the russians. Every time mueller drops something, it seems to dominate the News Coverage because no one saw it coming. Hes already indicted the former campaign chairman, his deputy, the president s lawyer is now in the special counsels crosshairs in the district of new york, so this is something thats not going to lose steam any time soon but when he does issue those final conclusions, i expect it to bear a lot of weight. Great to see you. Thank you very much. Jeremy, thank you. I cant commend that piece enough. It will be in tomorrows print edition of the New York Times. Next, Jacob Soboroff will join us to discuss what he saw on both sides of the southern border during his reporting over the last month. A hotel can make or break a trip. And at expedia, we dont think you should be rushed into booking one. Thats why we created expedias addon advantage. Now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. Addon advantage. Discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. Only when you book with expedia. President trump is in las vegas at this hour talking tax reform, but we expect immigration is going to come up as he addresses nevada republicans. Nothing has attracted more attention this week than whats been happening at the u. S. mexico border. Jacob soboroff has spent the better part of a month reporting from both sides of the border. He has a dateline special tomorrow night. Were with the Border Patrol in pursuit of two people they spotted up on the Mountain Ridge in this area. And the reason were shooting in night vision is because we have to maintain a low profile as we get out here to hike up the mountains in pursuit. Its intense. Im winded already. And these guys just dont stop. Theyre searching for the migrants up in the hills. They could be smugglers. They could be mules. We dont know. They could be armed. Reporter as Border Patrols elite flex team sprinted out way ahead of us, a helicopter joined the chase. Thats the bodies. Do they have them . Jacob joins me in new york. Readying that piece for tomorrow night. Take us back to what was happening there. What did that tell you about this issue of border policy . Watching this back and remembering what we were going through that night and thinking about how the president s been talking about the people that come to this country over the course of the last, whatever, six or seven days, you dont leave your home country, cross mexico, one of the most dangerous countries in the world, and run for your life from Border Patrol its not central park. Thats exactly right. Its not central park. Youre not doing that because you think, hey, im going to give it a shot and go to the United States. These are some of the most desperate people in the world quite literally risking your lives. You could die running from the Border Patrol like that. No doubt some of these people are drug smugglers, some are violent criminals but its a tiny percent of the overall population. The whole thing i want people to understand from this hour were doing tomorrow night on nbc for dateline is, the perception of what the border is like in washington, d. C. , particularly the words that come out of the president s mouth is a complete different reality than whats happening on the ground. Do you think that perception has changed over the last week, ten days . Ive talked to many congressmen and women who have traveled there to get a look at the detention facilities. Having gone through this, i dont mean to say its ended, its all continuing, those folks in washington, shaping, crafting, trying to craft policy, have a better sense of those issues . I certainly hope so. I know that i do. It was one of the most experiences of my life as a father and just as a human to see little kids sitting inside cages guarded by security contractors in the watch tower. It was nauseating to see. The fact thats now out in the public consciousness, albeit with government handout photos, at least weve been able to describe that to the American People and some Congress People have been able to see that themselves. If youre outraged by what we saw there in the course of the last week, you should be outraged with how we got here, too. American immigration policy has been a big old fail for 25 years, since the Clinton Administration started this deterrence policy called detention through deterrence that led to people crossing in the mountains and deserts and increasing people dying. I just hope i hope weve been shocked. Trump has brought us there in probably the worst way possible. I hope theres a way forward for all of us to figure this out. Theres the old saying all politics is local. Back here in new york now, but i wonder as you look at the confusion and chaos vouning the Legal Process, particularly about what the Justice Department wants to have happen, how are folks on the ground paying attention to what is happening in washington as all this is getting sorted out . I think people on the ground think whats happening in washington is a joke because they dont they just say, ive never seen these people down here. The secretary of Homeland Security has never set foot inside that Detention Center where we keep running the footage of the mylar blankets and the mats on the floor and the people sleeping in cages. During that press conference, this one right here, during the press conference, she stood there on the white house podium and said, ive been in federal Detention Centers like the ones, paraphrasing, like the ones kids separated inside. Shes never been there. Donald trump did not only go to the border in the milgz ddle ofs krishgsz he went as far as can you in the opposite direction, dulu duluth, minnesota. I know were monitoring his remarks but hes running away from this as fast as he can. He said less about that in duluth than he said as a president ial candidate or as president himself. I think people on the ground think our politicians in washington are a joke and have no idea what happens down there. Last question is about the magnitude of this. We dont have the map of this but these kids who have been separated from their parents have been sent across this country. For me, thats the hardest thing for me to get my head around. We talk about the border, but this is really a national issue, a national crisis. Standing right there in this studio, bill de blasio, he was saying, the mayor of new york, there are 239 kids sent from south texas here to this city, to east harlem, in shelters and were only caught because somebody put that on new york one in the middle of the night. The fact you can take kids away from their parents and disperse them not only 2,000 miles away but to 13 different states, i think reportedly, there are 17 different states with these shelters, 100 potential different shelters, and not really have a way to i mean, you can track your fedex package down to the second and know where it is and we dont know where 2,000 young human beings are in this country and if their parents will ever see them again . I think that its a despicable state of affairs when it comes to how this was all handled. Jacob, thank you very much. Thanks for the reporting. Jacob soboroff reporting from new york. You can watch his special date line report, the dividing line tomorrow night on nbc at 7 00 eastern time. Dinner plans next. Why white house Senior AdviserStephen Millers restaurant selection is angering so many people. Las vegas, nevada, the president of the United States, donald trump ready to speak to the Republican Party of nevada. Its supposed to be about tax reform. Theres a high likelihood, i would say, the president may talk about immigration as well. Lets listen in now. The president of the United States, donald trump, in las vegas, nevada. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. I want to thank michael. Hes done a great job. Hes really i looked at some numbers before. Theyre looking really good. I give a lot of that attribution to michael. Hes been a wonderful leader in this great state that we love. I want to congratulate senator dean heller on his victory. Hes going to do a tremendous job. Hes going to be a continuation of a great senator. Hes been with me all the way. Once we get elected. I must tell you, a little shaky at the beginning, but that is when a lot of people running. Once we got in there, hes been rock solid, hes been great and tease going to do a job. He cut your taxes and nobody fought harder to cut taxes than dean heller. I will tell you that. Your great attorney general is here. Hes running against shady steve. And well, you know, if you think of the name, right, if you think because its always good to sort of, if you can think of Something Like that, but hes going to win this race so easily. I really believe, right . Wheres adam . Where is adam . Wheres adam . Come on up, dean. Thank you. And a man that was really so fantastic, and hes been like a supporter of mine for a long time, he is a very intense individual, like thats the blood lines from this family. And, boy, that father was good. He was tough. He was tough. Theres only one difference, danny is even tougher. Danny tar kuehne. Hes a great team player, danny. Hes a really great team player. And dean and myself, we really appreciate what he did. And hes going to go in there and hes going to win in that third congressional district, right, danny . Going to be there for a long time. I also want to, obviously, welcome all of our Republican Party delegates. Youve been here and working and striving. Look what happened. Look what happened, right . Youre the heart and soul of the party. In is a great state. This is a state that will be with us and has always been with us. We love the people. Im here a lot. We have a Great Development down the road but now i dont think about that anymore, right . I dont think about it anymore. I just wanted to go because i dont think anyone has come close to doing this. You read the fake news. Its fake and disgraceful. And they dont talk about it. I read a story in the New York Times recently about things that we do and they say we didnt or its just horrible. I want to say some of the things i dont believe any administration, any president has come even close to doing what weve done in the first 500 days. I wont even mention north korea in that. I wont even mention. That was a great i mean, we have a Good Chemistry together. Kim jongun, we have a great chairman kim, we have a great chemistry. Were well on our way. We signed an agreement. It said, we will begin the immediate denuclearization of north korea. It says that we already got back the hostages. I saw today, well, obama got back hostages, too. Yeah he paid 1. 8 billion to get them back, okay . They didnt say that in the New York Times, they dont say is that. But they said, obama got them back, too. Yeah, but a little different. They gave him 1. 8 billion in green, in cash. How do you do that as president . How do you do that . But we also when i was campaigning, people would come to me, and with tears in their eyes they would say, would it be possible to get back the remains of our father . Would it be possible to get back the remains of family members that died in the korean war . I said, i dont exactly have a great relationship over there. This was before the election. I said, you know, thats not sounding like ill tell you what, ill try. As were negotiating different points the other day in singapo singapore, i asked chairman kim, would it be possible to do that . The last thing i asked, do you mind, because i have many people that have written and called and spoken to me, would i be able to get the remains back from so many great heroes from so many years ago . He said, i will do that. Theyve already done 200 people, which is so great. So good. Thank you. [ applause ] thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thats so nice. And remember, just recently i got a call from the Prime Minister of japan, Prime Minister abe. And japan is so thankful theres no rockets flying over japan. You know, they were flying right over japan. They werent so happy. You know, the japanese are great warriors. Theyre are great warriors. That was not a good thing. And theyre so happy that they dont have that they were having rockets and they were testing rockets. You havent had a rocket or test in seven months, eight months. A long time now. It used to be every week wed have another nuclear test, a rocket test. They have blown up their nuclear site, their testing site. Theyve gotten rid of in the process of getting rid of their engine site for ballistic missiles. A lot. Were developing a very special kind of a situation where hopefully in the future, because you look at locationally, you look at it from any standpoint, north korea has tremendous potential. Chairman kim sees that and a lot of tremendous things are going to happen. We were really helped by south korea, president moon. We were tremendously helped by japan. We were really helped also by president xi of china with the border. Now we have to work on our trade with china because its been its been very tough on our country for very many years. Our president s did nothing about it. And we probably lost last year 500 billion in trade to china. Think of it, 500 billion. So, we started a process and i think that will work out with china because we have a very Good Relationship with the president with president xi. Hes incredible. I think it will work out. Were working on a nafta deal. Nafta has been a disaster for us. You know, mexico makes over 100 billion a year. Its hard to belief president of the United States in las vegas, nevada. Well continue monitoring what he has to say. So far thanking republican candidates running for office in las vegas, coining a few nicknames, one of which is shady steve, talking about his relationship with chairman kim jongun of north korea saying they have good chem sdpistry an talking about the points they negotiated in the estimates of President Trump. I want to talk about the principals involved in the zero tolerance policy weve seen put in place over the last few weeks. Stephen miller, whos an adviser to President Trump, joining me as special correspondent for vanity fair, bill cohen and ned price. Bill cohen has written a seminole important piece about how the Stephen Miller has come to be. You charted his evolution, how hes become the conservative he is. Are we seeing that here in relief in the policies weve seen put in place on the border . One thing, david, about Stephen Miller, hes been Stephen Miller that we, unfortunately, have come to know and not like so much. Since his days in high school. So, this has been Stephen Miller for, you know, literally half of his life as one of his classmates at Santa Monica High School told me, hes been radicalized since he was in high school and to take him very seriously because he is a true conservative radical. I think youre seeing very much his policies that he believes in from the bottom of his heart, even though he is an immigrant, from an immigrant family. He wouldnt be here but for immigration policies of past president ses and here he is trying to block them at the border on a daily basis. This is pure Stephen Miller. Bill cohen, i want to ask you about his involvement with this issue. You chart his political evolution. Professionally he worked with michele bachmann, he worked for Jeff Sessions, then senator, now attorney general. Ill read a bit from your piece. Eventually led him to jobs in washington, d. C. First as a spokesman for two rightwing members of congress. He became a Communications Director for conservative alabama senator Jeff Sessions, now the u. S. Attorney general. Take us back to 2013. There was a piece of immigration legislation that stood some chance of passing here. Jeff sessions was instrumental in that not happening. And so was Stephen Miller. You actually see, you know, playing out five years later exactly what they blocked five years ago. Now theyre trying to implement their own radical form of immigration policy and obviously its playing out on our tv screens over the last two weeks, very detrimentally to both, i think, Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions image and, of course, that of the president of the United States. You notice in his talk in las vegas, President Trump is trying to talk about what he did or did not accomplish in the summit last week in singapore. Unfortunately, thats just not getting through anymore. Whats getting through are these horrible images of separating Young Children from their families. Ned price, i want to bring you into the conversation here. Stephen miller has an advisory role. He has the ear of the president. What do you make of the level of influence he has . You were in the obama white house. He had many advisers, of course. It seemed like there was much more give and take, much more of a conversation about these policies. If anything strikes me about what weve seen over the last week, its the lack of foresight about how policies ginned up by Stephen Miller and his colleagues can have influence . Stephen miller certainly does seem to have the president s ear. I think thats because in many ways they are kindred spirits. On paper they dont have a lot in common. One is 32, one is 72. One is from santa monica, california, the other is from new york, new york. I think what unites these two is blind ignorance and at its core really vile bigotry. Stephen miller has taken on this issue of immigration and family separation. This is also donald trump. It wasnt Stephen Miller who told thencandidate donald trump when announcing his presidency to speak of mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers and assuming some people are good people. It wasnt Stephen Miller. He had nothing do with the campaign when donald trump called for a total and complete ban on muslims entering the United States. And Stephen Miller wasnt calle people on both sides of the charlottesville protest honorable people. So i really think Stephen Millie bobby brown may be taking on a lot of this issue but i think in this case this is donald trump, this is donald trump putting forward what he believes in, unfortunately. Ned price, thank you very much for joining us. William cohan, thank you also. Ill tweet out the piece if youre interested. Well continue monitoring what the president is saying out in las vegas before the nevada Republican Party. Paying attention to what he has to say with regard to immigration and immigration policy if he says anything about the subject, of course, well bring those to you live. Up next, the duds that certainly were a dud. The backlash, first lady Melania Trumps jacket choice on her trip to the border with mexico. The first ladys Spokesman Says its a jacket. There was no hidden message, right. Its definitely not hidden. Its right on the back and im going to guess this is one message she did not steal from Michelle Obama. Some push High Commission investment products, Fisher Investments avoids them. Some advisers have hidden and layered fees. Fisher investments never does. And while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, Fisher Investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other money managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. In the 2018 lexus es safetand es hybrid. 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Weve been following protests at the border and looking at President Trump speaking in las vegas, nevada, before the nevada Republican Party and continue to monitor what he has to say particularly on the issue of immigration. If he begins talking about that subject which were keenly interested in here well bring those to you live. Speaking out there in las vegas. Well, a lot of folks still wondering why Melania Trump wore what she wore on a trip to texas this week. That being a cargo jacket with the words i really dont care, do you . In faux graffiti. A spokeswoman said there was no hidden message. Her clothes certainly say a lot. She wore designer stiletto on a trip to visit victims of hurricane harvey. While others have faced backlash, Michelle Obamas sleeveless dress in that official portrait. Melania trumps east wing Team Includes only ten aides compared with the 25 or so who worked under Michelle Obama and laura bush. We have a guest who traveled with Michelle Obama. I went back to a piece written about Michelle Obama after his term. Just because something appears trivial does not mean it is any less powerful as a means of persuasion and outreach. In some ways its very triviality. The fact that everyone could talk about it, dissect it, imitate it makes fashion the most potentially viral item in the subliminal political toolbox. What do you make of what she wore . Its confounding to me to think this was an accident. The two questions everyone has been talking about this week is why did melania wear that and what was she thinking . It doesnt get more transparent that. She wore her heart on her back. This is how she feels about what we are not sure. Was this a message to her husband, was this a somessage t the press like her husband said it was. Were not certain but what we are certain of, this was a pr nightmare. I dont know how she managed to leave the white house in this jacket. Where were her handlers . Where were her people . Yes, she may only have ten aides but one person should have pulled her aside and said absolutely not. You cannot wear that jacket. Michelle obamas team was very clear about what she wore, the significance of what she wore. They understood the fact that Michelle Obama represented both the country, her family and the world and she used her fashion to telegraph messages of strength and telegraph messages of fiscal responsibility. Think about it. She came to power in the midst of the recession. Michelle obama made it a point to wear both high fashion and, quote unquote, low fashion and mix a belt with a j. Crew skirt and wore a cardigan to meet the queen from j. Crew. She understood appearing in clothing unattainable to the masses was not the message she wanted to send at that time when they were losing their jobs and hopes so for melania not to understand the significance of that jacket is really, really mindboggling and very unsettling. I want to debt your impressions about how she, Melania Trump, approaches fashion . Her background is in modeling and has been of that world, of the fashion world. She sent messages before. She wore that white pantssuit to the first state of the Union Address her husband gave so we had the same sort of conversation about what cryptic message she might be sending then. What is your sense of how she regards fashion and thinking about costs and the egalitarian nature, how do you think she approaches it. Jacketgate which is what i dubbed this, melania is not known for wearing low fashion. She is a woman who embraced dolce and ga than ba, balenciega. How she ended up with a 39 from zara, did she buy it . Was it given to her . Get on that, david. Thats the mystery. Thank you very much. Lolaogunnaike, thank you. Join me again at 2 00 p. M. And 3 00 p. M. And follow me on twitter and instagram. The news continues with my friend and colleague who also knows high fashion. Richard liu. I think im on the other end. But appreciate you being a person of high fashion and high intellect. I appreciate it, my friend. Hello to all of you. Low fashion guy, i guess. As the debate over immigration intensifies today President Trump is in the swing state of nevada help egg to fund raise and rally voters. Speaking right now in front of hundreds of supporters at the nevada Republican Party convention in las vegas. We have been listening and Vaughn Hilliard who has been there at the event this week in the Suncoast Hotel and ka seen very. What are some points he has made so far. He said yesterday in a tweet that Congressional Republicans should stop working on immigration legislation and he said here just now that he thinks its a good issue for republicans in the Midterm Elections and said here he nicknamed jackie, the rosen, the congresswoman running against dean heller here, whack acky ja. She was there