Women who claim they had affairs with the president. The Supreme Court ordering more proceedings in lower courts. The president did get some better news in a second ruling which the justices are also sending back to a lower court. This Decision Centers on subpoenas from three house committees seeking Business Records from the trump organizations Accounting Firm and two banks. The court also ruling 72 in this one that the president can fight congress on this. The house will not get his records for now. Right now on capitol hill were waiting and watching for House Speaker nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house set to take to the podium any moment now. We will be watching and listening for her reaction to these decisions from the Supreme Court. Well take you there when she begins to speak about the decisions. I want to go right to our team of reporters and experts. Nbc justice correspondent Pete Williams, National Security and justice correspondent tom winter, former clerk to then judge Sonia Sotomayor and kim whaley, former sis stnt u. S. Attorney in washington, d. C. And associate independent counsel in the white water investigation. Mr. Williams, ill start with you. Walk us through these two Big Decisions and what they mean. On the cy vance case, the new york grand jury case on both of them, by the way, it means whoa ear not going to see any of the president s records immediately, maybe not even before the election. Its going to take months and months for this to work through the lower court. Thats the top line here. In terms of the specific cases, the court basically dismissed the president s two arguments that hes absolutely immune from any part of the criminal justice process because the sitting president cant be indicted. If you unleash all the local prosecutors, president s will be harassed. What the court says is the president now, with those absolute claims gone, can go back to the lower courts and make the same kind of claim anybody else would on why a subpoena should be quashed or changed. He can argue the same thing any other citizen would. He can also argue that having to put up with this from a state prosecutor would be harassment or would take too much of his time, in other words. Sort of a little bit of a reflection of his argument there. Its a win for the prosecutor because it says the prosecutor has a right to see this. The president is not immune to it. It takes some time to work it out. On the congressional one, as you say, this is more of a mixed victory. What they say is the president cant absolutely stiff congress. But on the other hand, congress cant just have anything it wants, so theres a test that the lower courts have to apply. They have to say, is the information theyre seeking available from some other source. Is the subpoena too broad. Remember, thats one of the problems the democrats had, the subpoenas were so broad, seeking years of information from, not only the president , but his relatives, other people who work for the trump organization. Thirdly, does congress have in essence the right to see this. Finally, would this be too much of a burden on the president to respond. So its going to take months for this to work through the lower courts. Both of these are, in a sense, landmark rulings because they both try to set out what basically the terms are for when a local prosecutor or congress can seek information from a sitting president. Bear in mind here one of the things that made these cases a little bit different is, none of these requests for material from the president himself. They were directed to his accountants and his banks. Secondly, very little of it applied none of it applied to the president s official duties and very little of it applied to the president s time in office. So for all those reasons, these are important cases. They will undoubtedly set precedent for years to come when there are similar requests for material from sitting president s. Justice correspondent Pete Williams on these two in petes words landmark rulings. Thank you as always. Tom, what, if anything, are we hearing from the Manhattan District Attorney, cy vance, about that specific case . Craig, we can actually show you his statement. He says this is, quote, a tremendous victory for our nations system of justice and its founding principle that no one, not even a president , is above the law. Our investigation which was delayed for almost a year by this lawsuit will assume, guided as always by the grand jurys solemn obligation to follow the law and the facts, wherever they may lead. This is certainly a victory for cy vance who is having quite a year with his guilty verdict that he was able to get in something totally unrelated, involving a case involving Sexual Assault in harvey weinstein. Cy vance is having quite a year as a local prosecutor. With respect specifically to the president , this is not investigation just looking at the president s tax returns. Thats not the only thing theyve asked for here. They have asked for the underlying documents that were used to come up with those tax returns. This is a case that doesnt just have to do with the hush money payments. It also wants to look into werent his fax filings were accurate. In other words, what were his real revenues or real values of property, his real expenses . What were the guts of those tax returns and did he file them accurately . Theres other parts of this that, frankly, i dont think we have an accurate handle on yet. This is investigation that will certainly continue going forward. To petes point, this goes back to the lower courts where there may be continuing legal battles. Its going to take some time. I fully expect the Manhattan District Attorneys Office will file something asking for an expedited ruling from the lower courts to get these tax documents. Its obviously that the president will likely fight some of that in the courts, so it will be some time before they get it. The documents were requested, on a final point here, under grand jury subpoena. Its important to know what that means. It means these documents cant be disclosed in other words, cy vance cant put them on his website when he gets them. If he brings criminal charge, it wont come in the initial filings of the charges. We wont see many details there. Thats a decision made by state courts. It likely wouldnt be until we have a trial, craig, if there is one that these documents might come out in the form of exhibits. As far as when you and i have everybody watching us will get a chance to see them with respect to the Manhattan District Attorneys case, its likely it will be some time, if ever, that we get to put our eyes on them, craig. Certainly not before the election in november. This notion that people may somehow be able to see the president s tax returns or some of the underlying information connected to those returns before the election, thats not going to happen. Melissa, what should we, if anything, be reading into where the justices sided in these decisions . Both rulings 72. The chief justice again this time around joining neil gorsuch deciding with the majority. What, if anything, can we glean from that . The one thing we can glean is the real winner is chief Justice John Roberts who managed to steer the Supreme Court out of potentially fraught political waters during an election year. Ill note one interesting decision in the one about the congressional subpoenas please stand by. Speaker of the house nancy pelosi talking about this right now. Clearly achievable by us in the lower court, and we will continue to go down that path. The decision enables to enable the trump administrations i dont even know what theyre saying about it. I hear theyre tweeting one thing and other people are saying another. Whatever it is, its not good news for the president of the United States. It is a path that we will take. So i put out a statement and i dont see it here. Do we have a copy of the statement . Its not here. You dont need me to give you a piece of paper to have what the statement is. It took me a little longer to get out here because i wanted to read to the bottom end of the decision. Chief justice specifically speaks to the fact that the president is not above the law. That is something that was proclaimed in the decision, including two of his recent appointments. Careful reading of the Supreme Court rulings related to the president s financial records is not good news for President Trump. The court reaffirmed the congresss authority to conduct oversight on behalf of the American People as it asks for further information from congress. Congresss constitutional responsibility to uncover the truth specifically related to the president s russia connection that he is hiding. The congress will continue to conduct oversight for the people upholding the separation of powers that is genius of our constitution. We will continue to press our case in the lower courts. Thats what happened this morning. Earlier this morning, for the 16th week in a row, over 1 million americans applied for unemployment insurance. 16th week in a row. We have to open up our economy. We can only do so by killing off the virus. Thats whats in the heroes act. Testing, tracing, treatment, separati separation, masking, wash your hands, keep your distance. Thats what is in the heroes act. All of the scientific pronouncements we have been watching and listening to speaker of the house nancy pelosi. Right now shes of course talking about reopening the economy in our on going battle against the pandemic. Before that she was talking about the Supreme Courts decision related to the president s tax returns and finances. I want to bring back melissa murray. Melissa, we were talking about the ramifications of this decision and what we can glean from the 72 split in both cases before the speaker of the house interrupted us. Pick up where you left off if you can. Sure. I was just saying that this is a real win for chief Justice John Roberts who is the courts institutional steward. Hes been wanting to steer the court out of politically fraught waters. I will note in an interesting aside in the mazars opinion about the congressional subpoenas, the chief justice notes that ordinarily this would never even get to a federal court because the typical course is to have the Congressional Branch work it out with the executive branch. Theres a Hurley Burley hashing it out about what needs to be disclosed. He notes that that has not happened here and that is why were in court. Again, i think thats a snarky aside to the fact that this administration has consistently stonewalled congress and that isnt the usual order of things. While you were discussing that, we actually got a statement in from the president s Accounting Firm, mazars usa, a spokesperson. Ill read the statement we just got in, quote, alongside counsel, we are reviewing the decision in its entirety to fully understand our obligations. As previously noted mazars usa fully intends to comply with its legal obligations. That just coming in moments ago. Melis melissa, as pete pointed out, this doesnt mean were going to see the president s tax returns or financial records here in the short term. Do you think, based on the reading of this decision, that at some point we are going to see those things . I think its likely we could. The idea that a sitting president is completely immune from disclosing items that are rudimentary and personal but are within the scope of an inquiry and common investigation or congressional subpoena, i think is unusual. We might not see these before the election. Thats exactly what the president was worried about. Its unlikely he wants this to come out before the election cycle. I think its likely in time well see this information eventually disclosed. Will it matter at that point . Unclear. Kim whaley, this on going debate over the constitutionality of the trump administrations policies and decision making, it inspired you to write a book about the constitution. From a macro level here, how does todays Court Decision reshape the balance of power between congress and the white house . Or does it . Its absolutely critical to preservation of the separation of powers, and i think its significant that the newest justice, Justice Kavanaugh is in the majority on both of these opinions. The reason its so important is because, i think, as professor murray indicated, this white house has challenged the basic guard rails of the separation of powers across the board outing people within that are whistleblowers, firing inspectors general, having private parties like Rudy Giuliani conduct Foreign Policy without going through advice and consent, recontributing moneys that were appropriately from the congress, pushing against the emoluments clause. We have in place an internal policy that started with nixon that says you cant prosecute a sitting president. Thats not a law. Its not in the constitution. Its not a statute. Its just an internal policy decision. So what was at stake in these two cases is whether theres any meaningful oversight of the office of the presidency outside of an actual election. That was the argument made by the republicans in the trial in the senate on impeachment, that essentially its election, folks. I also wrote a book thats just out a few weeks ago on voting, and i do think that is the critical way of checking the presidency. But essentially the court did a few things. One said congress does have authority to subpoena information from a president. That has been challenged by this president. They basically set that in stone. Number two, when youre talking about privately held information, this is not something out of the white house, this isnt something in National Security coffers. Hes a regular person for purposes of a criminal investigation by a local prosecutor. Thats also significant because whats good for the goose is good for the gander. This is a shot across the baugh for all president s that you are not immune from any oversight short of an election which is fraught by virtue of russian interference and other issues. I think in terms of shoring up the legitimacy and sustainability of american democracy, this was a watershed, absolutely crucial moment in american history. Tom winter, while we are having this discussion, Michael Cohen, the president s former fixer slash lawyer, Michael Cohen is in a federal Court Building once again. A word a short time ago that we may hear from mr. Cohen about what were talking about here, the Supreme Courts decision related to the president s tax returns and other documents. Michael cohen, remind folks, tom, how he fits into all of this. I think youre referring to our colleague katy turs reporting saying hell likely speak. Hes meeting with his probation officer, is our understanding. I think a couple important things to remember with respect to Michael Cohen. First off, hes one of the few people that was inside the trump organizations kind of close ranks that has broken ranks. Obviously he has pleaded guilty to federal charges involving Campaign Finance violations involving hush money payments to two women for affairs that the president has strenuously denied. Hes pleaded guilty in that case, for lying to congress with respect to the russia investigation and the case they were conducting in the case brought by the special counsels office. Hes spoken with prosecutors in new york, spoken with prosecutors for the now defunct special counsels office, the fbi and the Manhattan District Attorneys Office. They came and visited him when he was in prison before his release because of covid19 concerns. Ive thought about all the times Michael Cohen has spoken to investigators on the state level, the federal level. And ive counted up the amount of cases that have been brought as a result of things hes told them, and the number is zero. Thats not to denigrate Michael Cohen because these cases, frankly, will be made on the documents thats the reason were here and speaking about it today in the Supreme Courts decision. Ultimately its the tax documents that would be needed to prove any sort of case. Michael cohen can perhaps provide roadmap, but i think its important to remember what federal prosecutors say in new york at the time of his sentencing that he hadnt been a full cooperator and somebody totally forthcoming. Hes a complicated figure in all of this. How many images have we shown with him close to the president of the United States . He was his fixer, his personal attorney. I think it will be interesting to see if any of the information that hes provided will ultimately lead to a prosecutable case. So thats something well have to follow, craig. But obviously hes out, hes able to speak. Something well have to watch closely. Kim wehle, before i let you go, you alluded to the expansive view of president ial immunity in the case of the manhattan d. A. How does that ruling impact how this administration operates . I think it is one of the few places, it looks like, where theres going to be a stop sign thats actually enforced. The president has to understand now that he cant control private parties. Remember, this is not the president producing information. This is the president reaching out to a private party, an Accounting Firm with respect to the congressional subpoenas, some banks and saying, im telling you not to respond to this request by the grand jury. Its important to keep in mind, there are two critical decisions the Supreme Court has already issued around this very topic or similar, the nixon case and the clinton case. In the nixon case, the court said, dick said you have to produce the tapes in response to a federal trial subpoena, you cannot hide behind your presidency and that led to the downfall of his presidency. Bill clinton, you cant hide behind the presidency and say i dont have to respond to a civil deposition. Thats someone suing for money damages based on conduct that happened in his private life. No can do. Sorry, clinton. You have to show up and testify. We know he lied in that deposition and that caused him a lot of problems in his presidency. So here, if the Supreme Court had not held this way, it would have been catastrophic for accountability for the office of tpt see. This president , not only has to be aware that its going to go forward, the investigation of his activities is going to go forward by cy vance, but also, if he doesnt win reelection, he is potentially going to see a criminal indictment as a private person because, again, i mentioned theres a doj internal memo, cant prosecute a sitting president. Unclear if that applies to state prosecutors. No doubt the president will take that position. But if he does not get a second term, he is more likely, if there is evidence of crimes, to be prosecuted because he will not have run out the statute of limitations. If he gets a second term, the fiveyear statute of limitations that applies to federal crimes will probably expire for any crimes allegedly committed in the early days of his office or leading up to his time. So thats absolutely pivotal for purposes of the election. Hes got to be very concerned about that. Kim wehle, melissa murray, thank you, tom winter, a big thanks to you as well. 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To sum them up, they largely are the president hitting old grievances, bringing up the Obama Administration, accusing officials from the Obama Administration of spying on his campaign, saying he survived the mueller investigation. Ill read you a part. He said now the Supreme Court gives a delay ruling that they never would have given for another president. This is about prosecutorial misconduct. The president clearly sending the message that he feels like the victim, hes being treated unfairly. We also have for the first time a statement from the president s lawyer, jay sekulow. He said we are pleased in the decisions issued today the Supreme Court has temporarily blocked congress and new york prosecutors from obtaining the president s financial records. We will now proceed to raise additional constitutional and legal issues in the lower court. So laying out the path forward a little bit from the president s lawyer, but also key in on that word temporarily. They clearly feel this is basically a reproef from the president s view. One of the main issues he cares about is whether or not his tax returns and other financial documents would somehow be publicly disclosed before the november election. Thats less likely than, say, if the Supreme Court fully sided with congress. But this ruling still keeps that issue in play less than four months before an election. Poles show the majority of americans think the president should disclose his documents. His argument is this has been decided in 2016 and they dont really care. You can definitely look for democrats to raise this issue. One thing that keeps coming up, there are democrats who think Vice President joe biden should not debate unless the president releases his taxes, craig. Granted it was a very long time ago using sort of i guess todays math. But we should probably remind viewers and listeners on Sirius Satellite Radio that then candidate donald trump did promise to release his tax returns. Ms. Caldwell, this basicalliey kicks congresss case back to the lower courts. We heard from the speaker of the house. It would seem they have every intention to move forward full steam ahead with their case in a lower court. They absolutely do, craig. She says theyre going to take this back to the lower courts and theyre going to continue to pursue this. Speaker pelosi is holding a press conference as we speak. She issued a statement i want to read from. She said the court has reaffirmed congresss authority to conduct oversight on behalf of the American People as it asks for further information from the congress, congresss constitutional responsibility to uncover the truth continues. So pelosi is not only talking about the access to the financial records, but also congresss role and their job of oversight of the executive branch. She was also just asked moments ago at a press conference by a reporter about if shes disappointed that this information wont come out before the november election. She goes on to say that, what was really at stake is that the president is not above the law. Thats a theme were seeing were seeing from a lot of democrats in their reaction. We heard from the head of the Judiciary Committee jerry nadler who tweeted simply, the president is not above the law. Now weve heard from at least a dozen other democrats with that same exact message including karen bass, the head of the Congressional Black Caucus who is on the list to be Vice President bidens Vice President ial nominee. This is the theme that were going to hear continuously from democrats, even though they didnt get a direct win here, they say the court reaffirms that the president cannot sidestep congressional oversight and cannot do as he pleases. Craig. Leigh ann caldwell on the hill for us, thank you. Carol lee at the white house, thank you as well. What are the political implications of these two decisions, landmark decisions as our justice correspondent characterized them a few moments ago . Ill talk to a republican strategist about whether this is going to become a big story line on the campaign trail next. Your daily Digestive Health using a special plantbased fiber called psyllium. Psyllium works by forming a gel in your digestive system to trap and remove the waste that weighs you down. Metamucils gelling action also helps to lower cholesterol and slows sugar absorption to promote healthy blood sugar levels. So, start feeling lighter and more energetic. By taking metamucil every day. And mine super soft . With the sleep number 360 smart bed, on sale now, you can both adjust your comfort with your sleep number setting. So, can it help us fall asleep faster . Yes, by gently warming your feet. But can it help keep us asleep . 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Extremely complex. People wouldnt understand them. While im under audit, i wont do it. If im not under audit, i would do it. I have no problem with it. Remember, i got elected last time, the same exact issue with the same intensity which wasnt very much because, frankly, the people dont care. I want to bring in rick tyler, republican strategist, author of the upcoming book still right. Hes also an msnbc political analyst. We just heard the president there say again weve heard him say it time and time again that people really dont care about his taxes. Do they . I think people do and would want to know, to quote nixon, whether their president is a crook. It looks like the Southern District of new york has a case to find out if indeed the president is a crook. I take this on three levels, both decisions today. Theres a constitutional level, a legal level and a political level. On the constitutional level, theres a big win for the constitution. Once again, the Supreme Court has dispensed with the absurd notion that somehow the president is above the law. That is to say, the president went in and said i have full body armor of protection against prosecution and the law. The Court Essentially left him with a jock strap. Hes in real legal term over the long term if the grand jury in new york, cy vance, gets these tax returns and they find wrongdoing. He could be in real legal trouble. That will take time to add jewett kate. Finally is political. If the president is under legal investigation, thats always a negative for a campaign, and hes under legal investigation for being a crook, criminal, stealing from the government, tax evasion. Thats a serious charge. Politically, also, it does seem likely we wont see these tax returns. Everybody kind of knew that going in. If cy vance can move and he could move and the courts could decide and dispense with the rest of trumps arguments and the tax returns could be released to a grand jury in which he could be indicted as a sitting president. That could not go well politically. Those three things have to play out. Big win for the constitutional. Terrible loss, legal loss for the president and politically its a loser all the way around. Here is the thing. The president s tax returns, huge issue in 2016. Obviously he won. From a purely political standpoint going into 2020, should the Biden Campaign or even antitrump republicans, should they even bother beating that drum again . I think they need to beat it, but they need to play a different tune. That is, the president hasnt released his tax returns, obviously has something to hide. Hes taken it all the way to the Supreme Court where it was batted down. There was an ongoing criminal investigation into the president , and shouldnt that concern you . Yes, i think politically it will matter. Remember, craig, in the swing states, in the battleground states, 14 of the voters who are unsure whether theyll vote for trump again, meaning they voted for him in 2016. 6 say they will no vote for him in 2016. These are the kind of issues that people say theres another 6 that say they might vote for him. This is the kind of issue to say, its over the top for me. The president wont release his tax returns. Seems to be have conflicts of interest upon conflicts of interest. Hes under criminal investigation. Lets just get rid of him. Well see. As you point out, as other legal experts have pointed out as well, his taxes are not going to be public before the election. Highly unlikely theyre made public before the election. How do you think these rulings today change the way that Candidates Campaign in the future, or do they . I think two things. One is i think president ial candidates will return to disclosure because people should demand it. Congress can also act and so can the states. On the congress, congress could make all candidates disclose their tax returns, not just president ial candidates, but members of congress before their name is assigned to the ballot. Individual states can also do that. They can say, wed love to put your name on the ballot, mr. President , as long as you disclosure tax returns. Well be happy to do that. Some states have attempted to do that. That will be adjudicated in the courts, also. I think the American Public should demand it. We should know what our president s financial interests are in that the simple reason is when hes making policy decisions, is he making policy decisions visavis russia because of financial considerations of investments his company has . Or is he making them on behalf of the American People . With this president , we just dont know. Rick tyler. We should point out for our viewers that, no, that is not a green screen. That is actually rick tylers back yard, and it is beautiful on this thursday i would lose the room. I go for the outdoor contest. Room rater, yes, yes. Im going to fail the room rater. Ill take myself out of the competition. You cant beat this. This is northern virginia. A new sign, ladies and gentlemen, that we are unfortunately heading in the wrong direction in this pandemic. The country just recording another recordbreaking total of new coronavirus cases in a single day comes as schools across this country are trying to figure out how and if to reopen. Were going to talk about all of that next. Well take all of your questions including questions about the economy as we learn of yet another million americans filing unemployment claims. Were taking everything we wanted we can do it all strength, no sweat the course structure the it just suits my life perfectly because i am a mom, im a wife. And i was able to complete those Short Courses five to six weeks and then move onto the next until i reached my goal. Live look here. This is the scene right across actually right in front of trump tower. This is fifth and 56. Theyve started painting black lives matter on the street there. In fact, new york city mayor bill de blasio moments ago wrapped up a speech along with reverend al sharpton. This is the scene on the ground. You can see folks also wearing the black lives matter tshirts. But again, this has been in the works now for a couple of weeks. If we take the tower cam shot one more time, we can show this vantage point. This is what it is going to look like outside trump tower in just a few hours. Black lives matter written in bright yellow. Meanwhile, more signs the coronavirus pandemic is not slowing down in this country. Lets get you caught up on the latest facts on the pandemic. More than 61,000 new cases were reported wednesday. Its a new record of cases in a single day, the fifth time weve seen record cases in the last nine days. At least five states now set their own single day records for new infections. Missouri, texas, tennessee, utah, West Virginia all saw major spikes in cases on wednesday. New employment numbers are reenforcing the economic toll. More than 1. 3 million more americans filed for Unemployment Benefits last week. Right now about 20 million workers are collecting unemployment on an ongoing basis. Florida has just added nearly 10,000 more new cases of coronavirus. Hospitals there are under more strain this morning with about 84 of floridas icu beds full. While local officials are struggling to control the surge of cases, theyre also facing the added pressure of how and when to safely reopen schools. Even before the president s demand that schools reopen, floridas education commissioner announced all schools must reopen in person next month. Nbcs dasha burns joins us from a school in Broward County where officials and parents are scrambling to move forward. What are you hearing about the plan to force all the schools to reopen . Reporter craig, the emphasis is really on that word plan. Right now from what im hearing there just isnt a concrete, agreedupon plan here just yet. School districts are trying to figure out everything from sanitation to how cafeterias would operate to school buses, the data they need to gather to figure out how many students they should expect in these buildings next month. Education officials ive talked to say the devil is in the details, and they just dont have those details quite yet. Broward county is one of the Largest School districts in america, 241 schools here, all of which will have to make significant changes by august 19th, the School Start Date here. Craig, some of the parents ive been talking to have said they were pretty excited about the order to reopen schools in person. They say that theyve been seeing their children struggling over the last several months. One couple i talked to said theyre aware of the risk of covid, but more concerned about the risk to their childrens emotional, intellectual and Mental Health if they stay home. I talked to the president of the Broward CountyTeachers Association about her conversations with parents. Take a listen to what she told me. Parents want their kids in the brick and more tour setting. They want us facetoface with their kids. They love us, trust us, have faith in the Public School system. We just want to get to that piece of is it truly safe and what can we do to make it safe . It would be great if we could see a decline happen before kids start august 19th. But we havent seen it happen yet. Reporter craig, when it comes to planning, when it comes to implementing those plans, there is one issue that looms really large for the teachers ive been talking to, and that is funding. Even before the president threatened to withhold funds from schools that dont reopen, teachers were pretty skeptical that they would get the money and resources they need to do this and to do it right, craig. Dasha burns down in Broward County, florida. Da shah, thank you. It may not feel like it for millions of families who are relying on unemployment right now. But experts say were starting to see some signs that the labor market is slowly recovering. A new report shows more than 1. 3 Million People filed for jobless benefits last week. That number has dropped for 14 straight weeks. It still means more than 48 million americans have filed for unemployment. To put that in perspective, thats more than the entire population of spain. And weve got a lot of questions about your health in general in this pandemic. I wanted to bring in two experts, a practicing physician, also the chief medical officer at webmd and stephanie ruhle, our friend stephanie is nbcs chief Business Correspondent and hosts an hour here on msnbc as well. Our first question for you, steph. Will congress extend unemployment for those who are scheduled to return to work in september but are not comfortable doing so . What should we expect . Well, i left my crystal ball at home, so no one will know for sure. But weve heard from a number of republicans over and over, youre not going to see the expanded Unemployment Benefits, that 600 kick theyre Chuck Schumer calls unemployment on steroids that was part of the c. A. R. E. S. Act. That is going to expire this month. However both democrats and republicans, both sides of the aisle, realize were not seeing a vshaped recovery, tens of millions are out of work, and you know were seeing more states put restrictions, more covid restrictions on now that covid continues to spread. So were not seeing the job market booming again. So congress is going to most likely do something. Weve got an election coming. Even the president , who doesnt like the c. A. R. E. S. Act, they will do something. But you should operate your life assuming this is going to run out so you should be saving accordingly. But most likely they have to do something, craig. Some of our viewers have been wondering whether its safe to go back to religious services, dr. White. This is amna asking, quite a few churches have opened, my mother is 73 years old and insists on going to church service. I still think its a high risk activity and she should not go because of her age. What do you say about Church Services and gatherings for Senior Citizens even when precautions are attempted . Dr. White, what do you say . You know, nothing is without risk, craig. And if youre in a high risk category like the viewer is, being older, you really want to minimize that risk. Im glad theyre doing all the safeguards. But there is still a lot of virus out there. As was mentioned early on, theres 60,000 plus cases yesterday. A month ago there were only 16,000 cases. So as long as there are cases increasing, and i would check your local area to see whats happening, it might be a better choice to stay home a little longer, make sure youre going to be safe, and theres still going to be time to go back to church. But if youre in a high risk category, i would stay home for now. I want to ask you about another s topic here, dr. Whyte. Lots of folks are asking about masks. Here is a new one, though. If i only wear a disposable mask for 15 minutes during the day, how long can i continue to wear that mask . Does it need to be disinfected after each time i wear it . Yeah, you know, disposable masks are meant in general to be single use, which means you use it once and then you get rid of it. But craig, some of it is going to depend how you take care of it. If youre truly only using it for 15 minutes and youre putting it in a safe place when youre done, perhaps in a plastic bag, then its probably okay to use a couple more times. I always tell people, before you put that mask on, no matter what kind of mask it is, take a look at it, make sure there are no holes or cuts. But there can be shortages of masks in some areas, including disposable ones. I kind of cringe when youre saying youre going to reuse it a few more times, you know, i really caution you, even if youre only using it 15 minutes a day, disposable masks are really meant to be onetime use. Steph, you and i have both had Small Business owners on our programs asking about the Small Business loans, the paycheck protection program. This week we learned new information about who exactly was able to get those loans. It wasnt just Small Businesses. Kanye wests 3 billion clothing company, three branches of the Church Scientology and the studio of multimillionaire artist jeff koons, Small Business owners have to be frustrated seeing headlines like that. Without a doubt, theyre frustrated with those kind of headlines. Here is whats important to remember about the ppe program. They have not yet run out of money. So if you run a Small Business and you feel like, oh, i dont have a shot, you do have a shot. You should go to a bank, you should apply for it, without a doubt, the money is still there. As far as the frustration and the outrage go, i get it, its real. The idea for the program initially was any industry if youve been its a Small Business, if youve been negatively impacted by covid, the government didnt want you to lay off all your workers and payroll and shut your business. Unfortunately they wrote the language so loose that it was absolutely taken advantage of by a lot of big businesses and wealthy people. The question now is, is Congress Going to do something about that and treat these as loans, meaning they will have to be repaid, not grants, which is what the ultimate plan is for ppp. If you use the money appropriately, you dont have to pay it back. And i can assure you, lawmakers on both sides of the ice recaai that we finally have the list that the Treasury Department didnt want released, theres a lot more questions to be asked. Stephanie ruhle, dr. John whyte, always good to have you. Tweet your question questions, msnbcanswers or send us an email, talk msnbc. Com. Theres going to be a press conference coming up at 1 30, but in our next hour, two big interviews with my colleague Andrea Mitchell, former secretary of state colin powell and Atlanta Mayor keisha lance bottoms, both those conversations coming up next. Th conversations coming up next. Not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, i want that too. Eliquis. 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