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Off on the debate stage in New Hampshire and for some the stakes could not be higher as they try to put what happened in iowa in the rear view mirror. Thats where we want to start things off this morning with just four days before the New Hampshire primary. Big debate there tonight. This morning were getting a fresh look at where the Democratic Candidates stand in the granite state. New polling tonight from the boston globe and Suffolk University shows a tightening race between Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg, search rated by just one percentage point and theres one more encouraging sign for mayor pete. He is up 12 minutes to New Hampshire since monday. I want to go right now to our road warriors in manchester, New Hampshire. Shaquille brewster. Bernie sanders wrapping up a Campaign Event there. Lets talk about what his campaign is doing in these final days to ensure that they come out on top and possibly try to blunt some of the momentum that has been behind buttigieg coming out of iowa. Reporter we got a hint of that just a couple of minutes ago with senator sanders leaning into that populous message. He was addressing a nafl iew Hampshire Institute of policy and sponsored by bank of america and comcast and he was going after their influence of corporate money in our politics. He mentioned Michael Bloomberg and the hundred of the millions hes spending for his campaign but mentioned mayor Pete Buttigieg in a way we havent quite heard him do before. Take a listen to that moment. Im reading some headlines from newspapers about Pete Buttigieg. Pete buttigieg has most exclusive billionaire donors of any democrat. That was from forbes. I like Pete Buttigieg, nice guy, but we are in a moment where billionaires control not only our economy but our political reporter senator sanders said youre either fighting for the working class or defending those corporate wealthy campaign contributors. Its a hint of what we may see on the debate stage. There is that poll showing senator sanders who came into New Hampshire really leading now fighting for that first place position. Things are getting tighter and you feel it here on the came pain trail. Stay with me. I want to cross over to von hilliard. Lets talk about the momentum he has had billing off of what has happened to him in iowa, closing the gap over in New Hampshire. What is the sentiment inside the mayor pete campaign, especially after getting a little bit of a name check now from Bernie Sanders . This is the best it could have gone for them today, ayman. Youre seeing him shooting up in the polls here in New Hampshire just this week. This is a campaign that has contended once voters get to know who Pete Buttigieg is and once they see he can win, then at that point is when folks will begin to really put their names behind him. Because when youre looking a the states beyond iowa and New Hampshire, he still has a long way to go to not only prove himself but also to bump up his polling numbers, especially among communities of color. But youre looking a the a campaign right now that is seeing a surge of donations to it. I was just talking with our political unit, colleague carey danon and it looks like they just went up with an ad buy beyond New Hampshire. This is part of a Pete Buttigieg appearance at a cnn town hall in New Hampshire last night when Pete Buttigieg is extending that message he had in iowa of bringing on not only democrats but independents and republicans in order to mount a bid against donald trump come this fall. This is part of what he said last night. Senator sanders clearly had a great night, too, and i congratulate him and his supporters. We just had this idea that we could build a different kind of politics, a belonging based on bringing people together. And to see how that led to that win for us in iowa is fantastic bufantastic fantastifantastic, but i also know that were in New Hampshire now. New hampshire is a stit thate t never been told what to do and weve got to earn every vote and earn a win on tuesday night right here. Pete buttigieg has now proven himself statewide in the midwestern state. Now the question is whether he can do it beyond. There were 25 candidates that made their way through iowa. Now if youre looking at who is at the top here, you essentially have four top candidates here in New Hampshire hes looking to separate himself with. This is a candidate looking to take this momentum and not only propel here in New Hampshire but also beyond. Vaughn hilliard and shaquille brewster, thank you. Michael, great to have you with us. Lets talk about the elephant in the room were not talking about, joe biden. We just got the as soon as from t sense from the two reporters about the momentum behind the Sanders Campaign as well as the Pete Buttigieg campaign, completely opposite story coming out of the Biden Campaign. Some would say theyre losing momentum by the day and he is no where to be seen in New Hampshire. What do you mack ke of that . Smart decision to lose that valuable face time . No. I think theyre having a hard reset. It was a devastating campaign day for joe biden. Even worse than people would have expected. Now he kind of has a problem because mayor pete is the alternative to joe biden and you have him taking up votes, bloomberg waiting in the wing. He was hoping for a sanders faceoff. It doesnt look like thats going to happen anymore. And hes going to run out of money soon if he cant figure out a way to get donors to donate again. Lets go to manchester. You have a new piece about joe biden up on nbc news the headline reads a more combative biden works to stave off collapse after iowa letdown. That combative tone he took while campaigning wednesday, do you expect to see some of that on the debate stage tonight . Whats the sense, whats the thinking inside the Biden Campaign today . The stakes are enormously high for joe biden after a very disappointing fourth place, what appears to be at least a fourth place finish in iowa. And joe biden has spent the labs eig last eight or nine months trying to avoid rivals. Hes been the frontrunner for many months and has tried to avoid that could be tntentious forth. I would expect him to bring this new tone and pivot to the debate. Hes going after Bernie Sanders pointedly, raising questions about someone who has a selfimposed label of democratic socialism can win a general election, going after Pete Buttigieg calling him too risky and calling him untested. Hes pushing his message and contrast in a way we have not seen before. Joe biden cannot afford to go poorly in New Hampshire and nevada. Nobody loses the first three states and goes on to win the nomination. All eyes will be on him as to whether he can revive and rejuvenate his campaign against iowa. We keep hearing about the South Carolina fire wall. If he loses three, i dont think hell even get a chance to use that fire wall to protect his campaign. Let me go back to the poll i mentioned at the top of the hour. The significance is that it says about 11 of New Hampshire voters are still undecided about who theyre going to vote for. Thats a pretty significant number when youre kind of in the final stage of the campaign. What do you make of that number and what is it certainlicaly st these top three, four candidates need to do to claim a stake of that 11 . This democratic electorate is very risk averse. We understand the need to beat donald trump. I think the big thing for all the campaigns is who has momentum . Thats Pete Buttigieg right now. When you have the momentum in moments like this, it becomes a lot more likely that youll see supporters come out and make that decision. Do you think electability has now shot up to the concerns of those 11 , like absolutely. Its now the problem for biden. He made his entire on the premise that he had electability. Now hes losing. Theres no way for him to be able to get that soft support that he had back again. What are you hearing on the ground about this field of candidates . Does it seem like the results from iowa are factoring into their opinion or maybe even changing their minds one way or the other . Well, this is the currency of the 2020 primary. Electability. I hear this over and over and over again almost to a person. Voters are terrified of potential lipo potenti potentially nominating a candidate that loses to donald trump. And of one of the candidates in an acknowledgement of this dynamic is fighting this battle on electability. Bernie sanders is arguing hes the one who has a grass roots movement, who inspires people and can have a massive turnout against President Trump in the general election and potentially win. Joe bidens argument all along has been that he can win independents and republicans. The iowa performance calls into question whether theres the enthusiasm for him on the ground to do that and Pete Buttigieg is also arguing hes positioned to win independents and republicans. Elizabeth warren, too. A third place finish, what appears to be a third place finish in iowa. The stakes are enormous for her because this is her neighboring state to massachusetts. The question for her is if she cannot win here in New Hampshire, where can she win . Shes similarly arguing on lbt electability. Everyone is fighting this battle on electability. Voters have different conceptions of it, candidates have different versions of what it takes to win. I think well see on tuesday where the voters come down. Thats an interesting point, whether its racial or gender based. Whats interesting is the coalition that may be emerging about class background, the rich versus the not rich. Bernie sanders went after mayor pete saying hes had the highest up number of billionaire donors. Is that an effective strategy for Bernie Sanders for this tuesday and if he does secure the nomination in a general election, can you possibly win a president ial campaign without both the upper and bottom class . It will work with his base, who is riled up about this issue but its not going to work with the general electorate approximately people arent really interested in policies and politics of it all. They just want to beat trump. Thats where democrats are right now. The more he talks about that and the less he talks about inspiring people or putting fear in them, with i is what you have to do in a cam pan to wpaign tos a losing message. Well find out in a couple days from now, well start getting a sense of what the strategy will be in a couple hours with the debate today. Let me ask you quickly about the jobs number that came out today. What is the message, whats the strategy the democrats need to counter that . The jobs report came out for january, 225,000 jobs added, 3. 6 unemployment. Thats pretty significant by any measure and it an uptick and seems a winningwinning measure president. This is where Bernie Sanders is really good. He talks about where you shouldnt have to work 40 hours a week and then work a second and third job. When you have people, the middle class be who are working two, three jobs and still cant put food in their fridge and send their kids to school, thats a problem and thats how democrats should talk about it. Thank you. I want to bring in Washington Post National Political reporter who is in manchester, New Hampshire for us. With his campaign on the line, joe biden goes missing in New Hampshire. Let me pick up with the same question i was asking michael and the others earlier. This is a quote about joe biden, he spent thursday gathered at his home with top advisers. You add his campaign is now simultaneously trying to lower expectations in New Hampshire with some suggesting they would consider a finish as low as third place a victory, while also bracing for a second straight difficult election day. They are most concerned with trying to survive to states that are more friendly to his more diverse base, as we mentioned South Carolina. If his team knows whats at stake in New Hampshire, why is he not out there right now trying to get as much time with the voters as possible . Its a good question. Yesterday was sort of a down day for him. He went back to wilmington, delaware, doing some debate prep. They view tonights debate as a crucial moment for him to potentially regain some footing. Hes also down today until the debate. Other candidates have been having some events while doing that. Its also a recognition that New Hampshire is perhaps not a friendly saturday to him. Bernie sanders is next door and Elizabeth Warren neighboring state as well and Pete Buttigieg has momentum here. So theyre really in a fight for third place and recalibrating, putting a lot more emphasis on nevada, hoping that gives him a little bit of a rebound heading into South Carolina. You also note in your ro reporting the Biden Campaign cancelling ads in South Carolina, which was supposed to be a fire wall or stronghold for his campaign and shifting that money to nevada. Do you think this campaign can count on that fire wall in South Carolina or is he pretty much done for . I dont know done for. But i think that they it does raise the expectations i think for some sort of recovery and fairly quickly. And that i think is illustrated by that shifting in some money and putting more money into nevada and lowering their ad spend in South Carolina because they do view nevada as a more crucial test for him. Its a caucus state. They are coming out of iowa, a caucus state where they did very poorly and seeing the need to organize in a different way. They have about two weeks to do that. They dont have a lot of time and they have been leading in the polls in nevada. Eight much narrower lead they had in South Carolina it raises the importance of nevada, which has been sort of overlooked throughout this campaign really and raises the expectations for that, for joe biden and Bernie Sanders will be quite competitive there. I think we may have lost matts audio there. Thank you for all of that. Coming up, well talk about retaliation of a reconciliation. How President Trump and his team are reportedly weighing payback against his perceived political foes following his impeachment trial both in the white house and outside. Plus is this his biggest troll of President Trump yet . Former mayor Bleich Michael blo makes a big announcement this morning involving a former member of the trum administration. Dm youve been hearing a lot about 5g. But theres 5g. And then theres verizon 5g. Were building the most powerful 5g experience for america. Its more than 10x faster than some other 5g networks. And its rolling out in cities across the country so people can experience speeds that ultra wideband can deliver. 1. 7 gigs here in houston. 1. 8 gigs here in frigid omaha. Almost 2 gigs here in los angeles. Thats outrageous its like an eightlane highway compared to a twolane dirt road. [ fastpaced drumming ] moments ago President Trump walking out of the white house, talking to reporters as we speak right now before taking off for an event in north carolina. An opportunity now summit will be his first appearance outside of washington since his impeachment acquittal. According to a number of reports, the president wants to pay back for the last three months. Lets bring in peter baker and republicans strategist susan del percio. Peter, let me get your take on this. Forgive and forget does not seem to be in the president s postimpeachment plans. You write choosing retaliation over reconciliation, mr. Trump lashed out on democrat and the one republican who voted for his convince. The White House Press secretary declared that democrats should, quote, pay for impeaching the president. What might that look like, peter . Its a great question. Obviously you saw some of it yesterday in the sense of the president lashing out in a very public way calling nancy pelosi, adam schiff, mitt romney various nails going after them in a personal way as well as a political way. But theres also all sorts of other pos anltsibilitiepossibil. Action dr vindman, we have reporting that he may be moved out of the National Security Council Staff as early as today. That he really generated a great deal of ire among President Trump and his associates who castigated him for being a interest ra traitor in their view. Colonel vindman came under a Smear Campaign from fox news and a senator who called him basically unpatriotic. Thats one area you might see some action. We dont know what else what might come of it. Its very different when we have president clinton come out after his acquittal and talk about wreck sill yreconciliation and. Here you have an Election Campaign in which this is going to be front and center for the president s appeal to his base and youre not done with impeachment yet. Peter, your report also mentions the plans that the president s allies have for hunter biden. What did you find out about that . Right, exactly. Senate republicans now wanting to look into Hunter Bidens dealings in ukraine. Of course this was the justification the president had for asking ukraines president to investigate in the first place what the Senate Republicans clearly wanted to do is show the president was right to do that, that he in fact had good reason to push for that kind of an investigation. They have been getting a lot of cooperation from the administration which blockaded the house during its impeachment inquiry. The Treasury Department handed over documents related to hunter biden that the Senate Republicans asked for. I think youll see action on that in the days to come. Well see where that goes. Let me read for you, susan, a little bit of that Washington Post article. Lieutenant colonel Alexander Vindman who testified during House Democrats impeachment hearings will be informed in the coming days likely on friday by Administration Officials that he is being reassigned to a position at the Defense Department taking a key figure in the investigation out of the white house. The two people spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discussion personnel decisions. Vindman said he intended to take an early leave and leave by the end of the month. So hes not just targeting political foes. Hes actually going after some of these National Security personnel who the pentagon at the highest levels said would be protected in that position. And thats what donald trump does. Hes going to go after everybody. The only i guess fortunate thing you can say is that the people who testified have had enough of a profile that they will be somewhat protected but there a lot of other people who are going to have donald trump coming after them. It is not far reaching after what we heard in the impeachment trial and white House Counsel and the legal team saying that donald trump can do whatever he wants if its in the best interest of the country that donald trump creates a real enemies list. Theres always been talk that he has one but i actually think we are going to see some really ugly behavior because the president has been emboldened, especially by the republicans who said he shouldnt be held accountable. One of the moments of the state of the union was when the president talked about prescription drugs and you had the members of the house essentially saying hr3 and it was one of the several bills that Speaker Pelosi says is waiting to are some kind of action from the senate to get to the president s desk. Are we likely to see the senate actually act on anything beside what weve been hearing, a possible investigation into hunter biden . Theres a slim possibility on drug prescriptions because that is beneficial to Everyone Needs that message. Republicans need to say theyve done something on health care. When you look what the theyre doing in the legal system and basically fighting, having peoples kids stay on your insurance through theyre 26 and preexisting conditions, at least they could get one piece of legislation passed, that would most likely be it but dont expect much. If the 62minute event that we saw yesterday at the white house is any indication what the president does after being acquitted, what do you think he will do over the next four years, if he wins reelection in november . I cant even think about itit sends a shiver down my spine. Its also important if he loses what he could potentially do from election day until he leaves office, he could be even worse, if its possible. Peter baker, susan del percio, thank you both. A trump appointee says hes backing Michael Bloomberg instead of the president that he actually served and hes calling out his former boss saying he has a very little understanding what it means to be in the military. In the military hey there im lonnie from lonnies lumber. If you need lumber wood, lonnies is better than good. We got oak, cherry, walnut, and more. And we also have the best selection of plywood clattering in the state. Hey highpitched laughter man dang woodchucks wood clattering stop chuckin that wood with geico, the savings keep on going. Just like this sequel. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on Car Insurance. Former new york city mayor Michael Bloomberg has made it no secret hes trying to get under President Trumps skin. Hes been trolling the president from the moment hes jumped into the race and pretty much every day since then. In the last hour he may have revealed his biggest troll yet. A former member of the president s own cabinet, former Navy Secretary Richard Spencer is nouniannouncing his endorsemf bloomberg for president. Josh, good to have you with us what do we know about richard spen spencers decision to endorse bloomberg . Reporter well, you described this as trolling the president and thats exactly what this is. The setting for todays event here in a military town, norfolk, is a knew semuseums al a massive battleship in a trumpian display of campaign trail theatrics. Who is the star of the show today, the president s own former Navy Secretary and acting defense secretary, the First Political appointee from the Trump Administration to go ahead and endorse someone else other than the president for reelection. He talked in very dire terms about the concerns that he has about the president not standing up for democracy. He didnt actually name trump by name but it was very clear who he was talking about as he spoke for the need for america to have the strongest candidate for president. And ill tell you a little bit, he said restoring americas standing in world and repairing relationships with our allies will be a top priority in mikes administration. So, no response yet from the president but if the president s response to mitt romney and others who have distanced themselves publicly from the president is any indication, we could be hearing from the president about this any time. We have about a minute or so. I wanted to get your thoughts about what the Bloomberg Campaign wand campaign wanted to get out of this, beside just trolling the president. Is this likely to give him momentum or credibility other than simply being able to criticize the president . Thats certainly their hope. Mike bloomberg is not campaigning like the other candidates are. Hes not in New Hampshire and wasnt in iowa. Hes going to battleground areas. Hes trying to talk to voters about his appeal that goes beyond the Democratic Party to folks in places that even voted for trump in the last election. And thats why having an endorsement from someone who is not only a significant military figure but also someone who worked for President Trump is going directly to the message the Bloomberg Campaign is trying to send. Where is Michael Bloomberg going to be when this debate takes place tonight and New Hampshire on tuesday, if hes not planning on competing there, what is the strategy Going Forward for him to get some momentum . Reporter thats right. Hes going to be heading from here to oklahoma for Campaign Events there. His goal here is to really run up the score in those super tuesday states that are coming up. Hes been dumping hundreds of millions of dollars now into Television Ads in those states hoping that once this primary moves beyond iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, nevada that he will be able to really ramp up his delegate count in those super tuesday states. Thank you very. Lets go to the white house now. We said to you at the top of the hour President Trump is leaving, going to north carolina. He spoke to reporters. This is the d. C. Circuit and we just won the big emoluments case. I think it was a unanimous decision. This was brought by nancy pelosi and her group. Just came out a few minutes ago. So ill be read it on the helicopter but it was a total win. This was brought by 230 democrats in congress on emoluments. It was another phony case and we won it 30. We won it unanimously. Reporter is Mick Mulvaney going to stay your chief of staff . That was a false report. I have a great relationship with mick, i have a great relationship with mark and its false. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, im not happy with him. You think im supposed to be happy with him . Im not. Theyll make that decision. Theyll make a decision. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Theyre going to be making that decision. Reporter [ inaudible ]. I cant hear. You have to speak louder. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, we were abused by the fisa process, theres no question about it. We were seeiousriously abused ba by what they did and what they signed and who signed. We were absolutely abused as per your question. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, youll see. Well see what happens. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, i thought it was a terrible thing when she ripped up the speech. First of all, its an official document. Youre not allowed. It illegal what she did. She broke the law. But i havent been asked a question other than a lot of people that viewed it, they couldnt believe that she did it. I thought it was terrible. I thought it was very disrespectful to the chamber, to the country. And, you know, look, people i get very high marks on the speech. I didnt know she did it until i was walking out and some of the congressmen and women were saying can you believe what she did but i didnt know she did it. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, i think theres a lot of evil on that side. Theyve gone crazy, theyve gone totally crazy. Its too bad. Ive gotten tremendous amounts done, more than anybodys gotten done in three years by far but theyre not constructive people. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, i do work with democrats. I work with everybody but that group is, you know, they say trump derangment syndrome, theyve got a bad case of it. That was on display the other night when she ripped up the speech. That was terrible. It was terrible so disrespectful to our country and actually very illegal what she did. Reporter [ inaudible ]. I gave the answer. Reporter coronavirus. Reporter does the administration tend to go after adam schiff or [ inaudible ]. We just came out with fantastic job news. I think it was 230,000 or something thereabouts, which was much higher than projection. So jobs continue to be great, our country continues to do great. Im now going to north carolina. Some of you maybe are coming but the jobs report just came out and its great. Reporter [ inaudible ]. No. These people, theyre their own people. Im not their boss and i dont think theyve done anything as far as i know. But its very sad what happened with the bidens and its also very sad how hes doing, how hes doing in the polls. Now i understand the votes are fried in iowa. They couldnt even take a simple tabulation yet theyre telling you how to run the country and how to run health care. I think they fried their votes on computer. Think of it, all the money that the democrats spent and the votes are fried. They have no idea who won. They have no idea. But ill tell you who won on the republican side, they accounted for every single vote and it was a lot of votes, it was a record setting number of votes, trump won. Reporter [ inaudible ]. Well, you dont know what happened in iowa. If you look, theyre essentially tied but they couldnt keep tabulation of their vote. Everybodys a threat. I view everybody as a threat. I even view john as a threat. You never know. Reporter are you concerned that china is covering up no, chinas working very hard. Late last night i had a very good talk with president xi and we talked about mostly about the coronavirus. Theyre working really hard and i think theyre doing a very professional job. Theyre in touch with the world health organization, cdc also. Were working together but world health is working with them, cdc is working with them. I had a great conversation last night with president xi. Its a tough situation. I think theyre doing a very good job. Reporter [ inaudible ]. I think that china will do a very good job. Reporter [ inaudible ]. They should because it was a hoax. Thats a very good question. Should they expunge the impeachment in the house . They should because it was a hoax. It was a total political hoax. Reporter [ inaudible ]. You know whats going to unify the country and its already unified in a lot of ways, look at our crowd and our support. What unifies it is a great success. Our country today is more successful than it has ever been and thats unifying the country. So you saw there President Trump making his way out of the white house, heading towards marine one before he makes his way over to north carolina. Spoke for about seven minutes or so on a whole host of issues, first and foremost touting the decision that just came out of dfrmg d. C. Court of appeals in his favor saying members of the house do not have any legal basis to bring emoluments charges for receiving funds or money at his house, Alexander Vindman, he claimed he was abused by the fisa process in the very beginning of his campaign back in 2016 and most interestingly, perhaps nor controversially, taking a dig at sneaker nancy pelosi saying the fact that she ripped up his speech at the state of the union was illegal. He said by doing so she is violating the law because that was an official documents and the fact she ripped it up was illegal, the democrats saying that theyve gone crazy and referring to them as evil on their side. He also touted his economic numbers and then also took a dig at the democrats and the voting process that unfolded in iowa. A lot of information, a lot of comments within those seven minutes let me get some reaction now from California Democratic congressman eric swalwell. Hes written a book that is set to hit shelves this april. Thank you very much for rushing over and joining us. Im not sure if you had a chance to hear the president there i wish i hadnt but i did. I want to get specifically your reaction to the charge he made about Speaker Pelosi saying the fact she ripped up this official document, his state of the Union Address was illegal and that she broke the law. Its the kindest thing she could have done to that document. Remember, this is the person when he was in the room with Vladimir Putin in helsinki destroyed the notes of the translator so we dont know what happened during that meeting. So im not going to listen to this president about destruction of evidence. Let me get your thoughts about another report coming out of washington today. A few different news organizations reporting the president is turning himself sights on some of his political foes. He was asked about Lieutenant Colonel vindman, you know him very well, someone who testified in the hearings on capitol hill. He was asked whether or not hed be i guess removed from working on the National Security council at the white house or reassigned. He said theyll be making a decision about that and didnt really comment on it. Are you concerned that members of the Civil Service may be targeted as a result of this impeachment . Yes, and we promised and chairman schiff told every witness that testified that we would protect them and stand for them and make sure there was no retaliation for their testimony. And Lieutenant Colonel vindman and dr. Fiona hill and Jennifer Hill and Marie Yovanovitch will be regarded favorably by history for coming forward. But there are more people out there right now in the white house moe have information about what this president is doing and we want to hear from them to protect the integrity of the upcoming election and also our National Security. Let me switch gears for a moment from what the president has been saying in the last couple of minutes to what you said that you would like, which is to subpoena former National Security adviser john bolton to testify. What are you still hoping to gain from him and how serious are those discussions . Do you think, are you concerned at all this was a ploy by john bolton to sell his book knowing the senate was never serious about calling witnesses in this impeachment process as dr. Martin luther king would always says, its never too late to do the right thing. If he has information about other shady dealings, to use some trump speak, he should go to a microphone and tell us, dont make us wait for the book because too much is on the line. But, yes, the way i see it is that this is a tenstory condominium. We went into one room, in the ukraine room and saw when you turn on the light there are rats everywhere, its corrupt. I imagine that the russia room, the turkey room, the saudi room is probably just as corrupted and we need people to help us unlock those rooms and understand exactly what the president is doing and i think john bolton is someone who could do that. How much do you think hell say that hasnt already been reported from his book. The book is not an official document you can rely on but how much more does he have to offer in terms of actual information . Thats why chairman schiff when he sought his testimony first wanted a document scan. We dont like to bring witnesses in to just go and wing it as far as what they know. We want to see the documents they have first. That helps us look at other witnesses and focus the witness on what they know. I think he did see a lot based on and its his responsibility to be a patriot, help our country and tell us what is at risk right now as we move into this election. Congressman swalwell, thank you for joining us this morning. Coming up, a stunning headline getting a lot of attention on social media. On facebook, antivaccers urged a monday not to give her son tamiflu. He later died. Tamiflu. He later died. Garcy young woman yeah, thanks mom mother of course and i love these flowers young woman whispering hey, did you bring the. The condoms . Young man whispering whats up . Young woman whispering condoms young man whispering what . Young woman whispering condom father condoms charlie. She wants to know if you brought any condoms. Young man yeah i brought some. Announcer eargo, a virtually invisible hearing loss solution with high quality sound and lifetime support. For the past few weeks because, fun fact, a recent Study Suggests crime goes down when people tune in. 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Do you get a sense theres any remorse, anyone trying to highlight the fact that this child died because they were given bad advice. Problem with a conspiracy or a facet of a conspiracy is that, you dont give an inch. So even when there was a measles outbreak, i thought forsl sure, this is, going to be the thing that changes the minds of ant antivaxxers in this group. Ive seen that its a false flag, that its fake, i lied. Its, anything but the truth. Anything but sitting and looking at the hard facts of what this woman said and did and the result that it had. As well as you mentioned the fact theres a lot of money to be made off of peddling this conspiracydl theory. We heard facebooks statement, but really what can they do . You go done the slippery slope of trying to regulate or deny conspiracy theories on their platform, you could be shutting down a lot of websites. I do not envie them at all. They have a massive platform and you have to think about these things in terms of scale. I dont know what the answer to that is. I know that facebook has said that theyre going to fight misinformation when it comes to vaccines and health outcomes. And theyve said, were going to moderate in this way, not allow them to buy ads anymore, have a popup window that comes up that says you should consult the cdc. And these are moves that are something and Health Advocates have said, thank you, but the bigger portion is, how can you say youre fighting misinformation when youre allowing a group to belong to a groupbe that peddles misinformation as a mission. And i was going to say, probably everything that facebook has done over the past year was not enough to save the life of this young boy and prevent his mother from believing in this conspiracy theory. Or the next thing from happening. I appreciate your time on this. Eight more americans quarentined on a cruise off of the coast of japan. Theyre confirmed to have the coronavirus. 61 passengers are infected. 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