Says it was done in the name of journalism. All while the man accused of leaking the photos says, wasnt me. Well get to that in a moment. We start with President Trump heading to his safe space. A large maga hatted rally, his first of the 2020 cycle. Tonight, he appears along the border in el paso, texas. These rallies, always a chance for President Trump to reconnect with his base. Theyre also therapy sessions for the president when washington isnt moving at the speed or direction he wants. To help him get away from bad poll numbers and the repercussions of the last shutdown and the specter of another shutdown. This rally coming with a twist. For the first time, hell face composition in the crowd size department. Not an apples to apples comparison, granted, but while the president is preaching about his wall, beto orourke will be a mile away from el paso at an antiwall rally. That is where we start. White house correspondent Kristen Welker following President Trump. Kristen, we havent seen a rally like this from the president in a while. What can we expect tonight . Reporter well, craig, i think you hit the nail on the head. This is going to be President Trump in his element. He thrives in these Campaign Style rallies. The focus tonight is going to be on this barrier here in el paso. It stretches about 40 miles, depending on where youre standing. It is anywhere from 16 to 18 feet long. President trump is going to aim to make the argument that this barrier makes el paso safer. It is an argument he first started to lay out during his state of the union address. He got some backlash. Lets take a look at what the president said and remind our viewers. The border city of el paso, texas, used to have extremely high rates of violent crime. Now, immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities in our country. Reporter now, the last part of that is accurate. It is considered to be a safe city. However, craig, heres the fact check on that, from Fact Checkers and from the locals who live here, the crime really started to drop in the years before this barrier was built, starting in the late 1990s. This was a trend that started not because of this barrier but because this community started to get safer. Now, all of this comes, craig, at a critical moment. Lawmakers over the weekend saying that, essentially, those talks to avert a second Government Shutdown are stalled. Stalled for two key reasons. They argue over how much funding theres going to be for the border wall. Now, a new reason. Detention beds. Democrats want a cap on how many detention beds there will be for people arrested by i. C. E. Agents. Republicans dont want that cap. They say it is going to tie the hands of i. C. E. Agents. A critical moment as President Trump prepares to hold this rally here later on tonight. What time is the rally set to get started, kristen . Reporter well, it is going to get started at 7 00 local, craig, so thats going to be 9 00 your time. It is a little bit late. Beto orourke, and i know garrett has the preview to all of this, is going to be getting going about the same time. It is going to be quite the splitscreen. Kristen welker there, el paso, texas, at the wall. We will bring in the aforementioned Garrett Haake in a moment. First, an aide to the thenrepublican led House Oversight committee. Also, professor at the university of texas with me, victoria, and ill start with you. Beto orourke announced his participation in the rally late friday. It seems he is inviting the comparison between him and the president , at least in terms of stage craft. Does it not . He does, craig. I am not a betting woman, but if i were, id say in the never couple of weeks, were going to see beto orourke throw his hat in the ring for the president ial race. I mean, lets not forget, even though he lost to ted cruz, he lost by 3 Percentage Points in super deep red texas. That is a win. He is a moneymaking machine in terms of fundraising. Also, i was thinking back to the concession speech of the 2018 election night. It really wasnt a concession speech. It was basically a tv to be continued. I think this is going to be a crucial platform for beto orourke and also for the Larger Forces of saying, we dont want a wall here in texas. We dont want a wall here in our country, blocking us off from mexico. I think this is going to be a really pivotal night for democrats and for beto orourke, in particular. Garrett haake is also in texas. He is in el paso. He is with beto orourke. What can we expect, Garrett Haake . What do we know about this rally that orourke is holding tonight . Reporter yeah, craig, im a few miles down the road from where kristen was along the border wall, as well. I can tell you that orourke takes this issue personally. The call out of el paso was almost designed. It couldnt have been better designed by President Trump to get the orourke camps attention. This is someone who represented this city in the city council for a number of years, for three terms in the u. S. House. People here in el paso, not just orourke, but people here in el paso were offended by the way the president has talked about their city. So putting this rally together, youve seen some pushback on the idea that this is against the president. Theyre very careful to say that this is a rally tonight that would be for the city of el paso. The idea would be to try to define the city of el paso itself and not as what the president has tried to define it, as somehow a dangerous city that was somehow saved by the wall you see behind me. The idea that this is politically important for orourke really cant be understated. His candidacy in the senate for the Texas Senate Race caught fire, in part, because he was able to draw and inspire these large crowds. Hes been off the political map since really the first week of november, with the exception of his speech or his interview with oprah. The opportunity tonight to draw a massive crowd again, to show people again his ability to inspire will be a big political moment. The coliseum the president is speaking in tonight holds 6,000 people. If orourke can draw a number bigger than that here in his hometown, if he can get 10,000 people in the secrets, thats the kind of thing that could reignite the speculation and interest in him running for president. If he cant here in his hometown, it could do exactly the opposite. The stakes are high for him personally. The stakes are high for the city of el paso, a place that very much wants to push back against the way they have been characterized nationally over the last few weeks. Craig . Garrett, is it true that orourkes rally is actually going to be marching past the trump rally . Reporter its going to come pretty close, craig. I can tell you, i just got off the phone with the El Paso Police department. They are still trying to work out the logistics of how they want to handle this tonight. As you well know, the way that Something Like this goes sideways is if very protrump and very antitrump groups get too close to each other. Things can get a little hairy. A lot of Big City Police departments have face thd conceco the concern, when the president is in blue cities in the past. Were watching the security situation. Yes, the march and the coliseum will pass very close to each other later tonight. Meanwhile, as weve been having this conversation, President Trump previewing maybe not so much his speech but the size of the crowd there. President trump tweeting a few moments ago, heading to el paso. Big speech on border security. Tremendous crowd. See you later. President trump predicting, at least, a tremendous crowd. For trump tonight, it seems like a page from the midterm playbook. Hold a big rally, get everyone in a froth about immigration. Didnt work in the midterms. Why try it again now . Well, i think what youre seeing, too, this has as much to do with whats going on in washington, with the budget negotiations going on, whether well have another shutdown or not. Trump is itching to get involved. Hes itching to get out there and deliver his what he considers his message to the American People. I think youll hear a lot of remarks tonight that will try to lay the groundwork for blaming nancy pelosi and Congressional Democrats if another shutdown happens. He started this on twitter this morning. This is as much about the theatrics of the border and the shutdown negotiations as it is a political play. Really trying to lay he got blamed so badly, craig, for the first shutdown. He actually said those words in the oval office. Public opinion was so hard against him, he wants to make sure that if we have a second shutdown, those optics arent the same the second time down. We did seem to be moving toward an agreement. It seemed, to a lot of folks, we were moving toward an agreement. Kurt, as you just mentioned there, this morning, more talk of a shutdown. Heres what was said. We cannot definitively rule out a Government Shutdown the end of this week . Absolutely cannot. I do expect the president to take some kind of executive action. A National Emergency is part of that. A new issue has come up in the last couple of hours. There has been talk that democrats want fewer detention beds. I think were going to end up with something that deals with detention beds. I promise you this, donald trump is not going to sign any bill that reduces the number of bed Spaces Available to hold violent offenders who come across our border. Kurt, do they reach a deal this week . I dont think they do. Again, i think trump is laying the groundwork for that. In some ways, he almost wants, i think, a redo of the first shutdown, because it went so badly against him. He wants another fight about it, but he wants it to be the democrats fault, not his fault. I think whats why youre seeing the theatrics. Criticisms trump got last time from republicans is he was alone in the oval office and the white house tweeting about it, not engaging the American People on the road, making his case. This is the first step of doing that differently the second time around. I think theyre expecting a shutdown to happen. Thats probably the reason hes going to el paso. Victoria, this latest holdup involves a demand by democrats. This is the washington post. The democrats proposal included a new limit on detention beds for immigrants picked up not at the border but in the interior of the country. Republicans want to exclude a range of immigrants from the cap. These would be people convicted of or charged with a variety of crimes, ranging from violent felonies to misdemeanor drug offenses. Why not allow the exemptions, victoria . Why risk another shutdown . So let me give you a little bit of political context here, craig. So when President Trump came into office, he did away with the pep, the priority enforcement program, something that was put into place by president obama that said, look, not all immigrants are the same. Weve got our violent offenders. We have people with multiple misdemeanors. We need to prioritize how were going to go after them. Trump said, i dont care. What the democrats are doing now, and where theyre putting the pressure on is saying, he did away with this, but lets get it back through putting a cap and saying, look, theres only a limited number of beds. Lets focus on these most violent offenders, the most violent criminals. This is a really important piece for democrats in kind of bringing back obama era organization in dealing with immigration. I think trump will be firm on this. He knows his base feels very strongly about this. They dont want him to give an inch. Someone inside the white house once again appears to be leaking information regarding the president s daily schedule. Axios, its the second such leak of his daily schedules. Once again, about half his time is devoted to executive time. Trump appeared to be respond, no president ever worked harder than me, cleaning up the mess i inherit inherited. That response, of course, on twitter. Do you get the stories suggesting he doesnt work hard, they dont bother him, kurt . Clearly, it bothers him because he is tweeting about it. When something bothers you, you talk about it. Its what weve seen when the tellall books come out by former white house advisers. If they dont bother him, dont talk about them and make them number one best sellers. He has no impulse control. The process seems to be, when he wakes up, turns on the tv for his executive time, sees people talking about it like us, hell fire off a tweet responding to it almost in real time. A lot of the times, the things he tweets about align directly with segments that are going on on this air and other cable networks. Clearly, it got to him. If it didnt, he wouldnt talk about it. Kurt, victoria, thank you, both. Thank you. Thank you. State of uncertainty. All three of virginias top leaders facing scandals that could end their careers. How Governor Ralph Northam defended himself in his first major tv interview. His second in command tries to hang on to his post. Also, fight or unite . As the field of 2020 candidates gets larger, theyre using different tactics to appeal to voters. Which will work . Could it drive a wedge in the party . Teachers strike. Denver educators walking off the job, saying enough is enough. 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Nbcs Geoff Bennett outside the statehouse there in richmond once again for us this morning. Lets start with the Lieutenant Governor here, geoff. Justin fairfax, there was a virginia delegate who was expected to file articles of impeachment today. Now, were hearing thats been put on hold. What happened . Reporter heres the story, on friday after the second Justin Fairfax accuser came forward, this legislator, patrick hope, went before the cameras and threw down the gauntlet, craig. He said if Justin Fairfax doesnt resign by monday, ill introduce articles of impeachment. Monday morning rolls around, and patrick hope backtracks. Heres a statement in which he explains his thinking. He said late in the day on friday, i allowanced if Lieutenant Governor fairfax did not resign by today, i would bring articles of impeachment to the house on monday. On sunday, once language was finalized, i circulated a draft of the resignation to members of the caucus for feedback. I received an enormous amount of thoughtful feedback, which led me to the conclusion that additional conversations need to take place before anything the filed. Mr. Hope says he received sincere and thoughtful feedback. Im told by some democrat house members that that feedback was angry. In part, because they thought that this move to impeach fairfax was premature, since there hasnt been an independent vetting of the allegations. It is also true this Virginia Legislature is a parttime legislature. This session is on track to end by the end of the month. The lawmakers, for the most part, are focused legislating, not impeaching one of their own. It is on pause. Governor northam indicating in the interview with gayle king hes not going to step aside. He continues to bring attention to what some are calling his racial insensitivity. This is part of what he said during the interview. Take a listen. If you look at virginias history, were now at the 400 year anniversary, just 90 miles from here in 1619, the first indentured servants from africa landed on our shores, fort monroe. Also known as slavery. Yes. Yeah, not really indentured servants as they were slaves. What are people there in the commonwealth saying about Governor Northam . Do they want him to stay . Do they want him to go . Reporter first, on the governors comment about indentured servants, there are historians who say he is factually accurate. Slave slavery, as we know it in the common knowledge, took time to evolve during the 17th century. While he might have been right on the facts, he was certainly tone deaf politically to refer to slavery as indentured servitude. There has been a disconnect between people and the politicians. The entire democratic establishment wants Governor Northam to resign. When you talk to people here stree people have a more nuanced view. Virgin virginians, overall, 47 stay on. 47 stay stay step down. When you break it out by race, africanamericans, there is an overwhelming majority of africanamericans, at least showing up in the polling, saying they want Governor Northam to stay in office. 58 to 37 . My conversations back that up. Black folks here in richmond, they express pragmatism. Look, weve been through worse. Weve seen worse. Governor northam is worthy of public redemption. He is not the man today that he was then. What i think is also interesting based on my conversations is that no one ive talked to seems to buy his story. They think hes either one of the two men in the photo, and they think he knows precisely how it ended up on his yearbook page. That i a sidaside, as governor, deserve rves a chance because h embraces what they embrace. How much of this calculation is based on what his Lieutenant Governor is dealing with, and by the way, the attorney general mired in controversy, as well. You have to wonder, if the other two were in political good standing, so to speak, if northam would not have stepped aside by now. Reporter youre right about that. Last saturday, when the scandal broke, most thought, by now, wed be talking about a governor Justin Fairfax. Northam said all along he wants more time to clear his name. You make a good point, because both of his wouldbe successors are mired in scandals of their own, very separate and discreet scandals, that he has the time he wants and needs to go on this public apology tour, talking to cbs. We understand hell go to different parts throughout the state, speaking with people publicly and privately as he tries to win back the support of virginians, craig. Geoff bennett in richmond for us, thanks. Key, new details from a closed door hearing gives us some clues about whether Robert Muellers investigation stands right now. How the special counsel may be closer to uncovering a link between the Trump Campaign and russia. 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Politico White House Reporter nancy cook is we me. Also, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, jonathan. Thanks to both of you. Before we get to tharkst, i wano start with this. Kamala harris, interview on Breakfast Club with a friend of the show here. Interview is getting a lot of attention. She was asked about whether she supports legalizing weed. You oppose legalizing weed . Thats not true. I know. Look, i joke about it, half joking, half my family is from jamaica. Are you kidding me . Theyd be so mad at you. Right. No, no, i do not. She went on to clarify that there needs to be research on marijuanas impact on the brain, but is her candid response, jonathan, is that response a bit of a surprise for a former prosecutor . It might be for those who havent followed her career or read her book. I read her book. I interviewed her as part of her kickoff book tour. It is right there where she says shes in favor of legalizing marijuana. She says in there that she does think there needs to be more Research Done on the impact, on the brain, on the human body. It shouldnt come as a surprise to anyone who has read her book. Look, she knows, and everyone has been talking about the fact that her record on criminal Justice Reform is something thats going to be front and center for her critics and for those who want to say that she was too harsh. When you read her book, and you listen to her statements over the last few years, she talks about herself as a quote, unquote, progressive prosecutor. By that, you know, shes talking about, yes, being tough on crime, but also being smart on crime. Sort of, you know, backtracking on the excesses of the 90s, which, you know, other people in the campaign say biden would have to answer for the crime bill. You can see a situation where if Vice President biden gets into the arena, hell have to answer to that. The same way that senator harris now, what, three weeks two weeks into her candidacy, is having to answer for her past criminal justice stances. Nancy, Elizabeth Warren came out swinging over the weekend. She used the word fight 28 times during her announcement speech, by our count. She also took on the president in a cedar rapids Campaign Style, suggesting he might be in jail before 2020 rolls around. The president tweeting this, will she run as our first native american candidate, or has she decided its not playing well anymore . See you on the campaign trail, liz. That prompting this response from senator warren. The time we get to 2020, donald trump may not even be president. In fact, he may not even be a free person. Is that what democrats want, nancy . Didnt they take back control of the house at least by talking issues instead of trump at nauseam . Yeah, i think the democrats face a difficult path heading into 2020, figuring out how to handle donald trump. Youre right, they won the midterms and took back the house largely by not getting into the boxing match with trump and focusing on policy issues that distinguish them from the republicans, like health care. So i think that because the democratic field is so wide open at this point, and were just seeing candidates declare their campaign, it seems like almost every day, were seeing people take a much different attack. Amy klobuchar over the weekend, for instance, definitely addressed some of the policies of the Trump Administration in her speech but did not mention him by name. Elizabeth warren is taking the track we just saw, where shes trying to fire up her base by calling trump out. I think this is something democrats will have to contend with over the next two years. Go ahead, jonathan. What were you about to say . I was going to say, although, we have to keep in mind, senator warren, of all the people in the race, has been doing battle with candidate trump and President Trump over twitter and from the campaign trail during the 2016 race. From my perspective, what senator warren did was just be herself. It shouldnt be lost on anyone, it is a crowded field, but it is a field full of women right now. A pivot moment for the country. Is this a direct response, nancy, to President Trump, and who do we surmise the president might most want to run against . Well, i think the number of female challengers is a rebuke to the Trump Administration in many ways. We saw a Record Number of female candidates win, and we saw them in the state of the union in suffrage white suits, celebrating that. I think the Trump Campaign, the white house is most watching senator klobuchars campaign. They see her as a threat, given her midwestern roots, and also her popularity in minnesota. They feel like she could make in roads into the key 2020 map in states they need to win. Like minnesota, ohio. They need to run against warren, because the campaign feels they can paint her as a socialist, someone far left, someone overly progress iv progressive. They are excited to run the playbook on her. Allegations ahead of klobuchars announcement. Defending herself yesterday, she said she had High Expectations for those who work for her. How much could these allegations damage the campaign, or is this something folks arent talking about two months from now . Could be one of the things people arent talking about two months from now, or if they are, it is to push back on the idea that only women politicians or women senators are difficult to work with. I cant remember the last time you, i, anyone on television talked about how difficult a male politician or certainly a male senator, and especially one running for president , how difficult they were to work with, and how that was a ding against them running for president. To my mind, anyone difficult to work with, who rises to the level of being a United States senator, to me, says they are exacting. They have high standards, and they demand people who work for them have the same standard on meet them. I dont think well be talking about that line of argument against her two months from now. Her speech again was one that, i think, acquitted her well. People will be and are talking about the substance of her speech. I think thats where we all should be focused in talking about all of these candidates, especially the majority of the candidates in the race, who are women. Jonathan highlighting the double standard perhaps. Thank you, sir. Thank you, guys. Theres new insight on this monday into where the Mueller Investigation may be heading. The New York Times reports details disclosed in a tra transcript of a closed door hearing suggests the special counsels investigation is pursuing the central question of whether there was some kind of deal or collusion between russia and the Trump Campaign. Lets bring in a former watergate prosecutor, also an msnbc contributor. It focuses on the comments of alan wiseman during a discussion of contacts between Paul Manafort and kilimnik. Kilimnik has been linked to investigator investigators, russian intelligence. How key to the investigation are his ties to russia and ukraine . According to mr. Weisman, it is key to their investigation. It goes to the heart of what their jurisdiction is. It is looking at whether russians interfered in our 2016 election, and whether any americans were involved in helping them do that. They are alleging the lies mr. Manafort told which ended the plea deal relate to the key element. They say the conversations are about what happens with ukraine, and kilimnik and manafort were plotting how to bring peace, which is what the russians wanted. They were doing the russian bidding. Several things need to happen. One, because of the redactions, it is always a little hard to read into the comments by weis ma man. We dont have all of what he said and we dont have all of the defense side. There are significant clues. We need to get all of the facts together. When press bed by the judge the hearing to explain why manaforts ties mattered, the times reports weisman hinted about the investigation. This goes to the larger view of what we think is going on and what is the motive here. This goes very much to the heart of what the special counsels office is investigating. The times adds weisman did not elaborate. What do you take from the comments . Is it clear the special counsel is trying to draw a link between the president s campaign and russia . Definitely. It is obvious when you have the Campaign Chairman involved in it, and all the other members of the Campaign Team who were involved. Even the administration, because flynn was in the administration. In the inauguration, gates served as the campaign and the inauguration. I think what it is really hinting at is what is the motive here . Why would the russianings ha ha helped . It seems to be, it was a quid pro quo. It proves very much if you can bla establish the motive, the russians wanted something from trump. They wanted to get rid of the sanctions hurting them. Of course, it was hurting trump, as well. It made doing business in russia a problem. It is a Trump Organization interest. Doesnt matter. If thats what donald trump was doing, what manafort was doing to help him establish further consulting work for himself, or to help the Trump Organization, it is a quid pro quo the American People should know about. That is being investigated. I think motive is a key element here. Jill wine banks, thank you. Thank you, craig. Jeff bezos said the National Enquirer tried to blackmail him with private photos. The paper said it wasnt extortion, just journalism. How will the defense hold up in court . Plus, what do we know about the person who leaked the pictures in the first place . Le pictures in the first place . Na t if you want to get the most details about your Family History. My pie chart showed that im from all over europe, but then it got super specific. I learned my people came from a small region in poland and even a little bit of the history about why they might have migrated during that time. 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With an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in Clinical Trials to improve shortterm memory. Prevagen. Healthier brain. Better life. The brother of jeff bezos alleged mistress is denying reports that he leaked explicit texts to the National Enquirer. An attorney for the tabloid ceo is refusing to confirm nor deny whether it was Michael Sanchez, a supporter of President Trump. Absolutely is not extortion and not blackmail. What happened was the story was given to the National Enquirer by a reliable source that had given information to the National Enquirer for seven years prior to this story. It was a source that was wellknown to both mr. Bezos and ms. Sanchez. It comes just days after the amazon ceos blockbuster post accusing the National Enquirer publisher to blackmail him. They got ahold of his private texts and photos. Nbc news has not reviewed the emails in the post. Joining us now is derek, staff writer. The daily beast reporting Michael Sanchez believed the enquirer pursued the story about buy soezos with President Trumps knowledge and appreciation. This is according to the daily beast. How real is this a possibility it leads back to the white house . It is a real possibility. It is important to be extremely clear about what it is we think we know and what we truly dont know. What we think we know is Michael Sanchez, the brother of the woman that bezos appears to be dating, that hes the one who supplied ami with these texts, with these stolen texts and photos. What we dont know, however, is why he did this. Who asked him to do it . What he was paid or what he was compensated for doing it. Why ami seems so interested in making sure that bezos doesnt suggest that the leaking of the initial information, that he had a mistress, was politically motivated. A lot of people are considering the possibility that this all ties back not just to the Trump White House but to saudi arabia, the possibility that ami is working on a business arrangement with saudi arabia, with the crown prince, and that they didnt want anything to come between that business relationship. At the end, ami wasnt asking for money, but it might all come down to money, their financial relationship with the saudis. We know ami has faced financial challenges here in the past, including mounting debt. You also wonder whether taking on jeff bezos, whether this is going to lead to what happened previously. Yeah, possibly. When you back up, ami isnt behaving like a media organization. Its behaving like a Mafia Organization that happens to own a magazine. Theyre in possession of certain assets, and they are making threats to protect those certain assets. This is what we saw with donald trump. They catch and kill photos of people who say theyve had affairs with donald trump for the purpose of not embarrassing their friend. They appear to be doing the same thing with saudi arabia, protecting a relationship, protecting people in the circle of trust, by making threats to those outside of the circle of trust. The degree to which this actually counts as extortion, as blackmail, that is the fundamental, legal question here. The reason why it is complicated is that blackmail and extortion tends to mean i have something thats embarrassing to you. Pay me money. Got it. Here, ami is not asking for money. Theyre asking for a statement from the bezos party that might be financially valuable to them. Theyre asking for information. One level, this is basically informational warfare. We wont embarrass you with photos. Dont embarrass us by talking about the Trump White House with saudi arabia. Underlying this, it is all about money. The attorney yesterday on abc also contended that this wasnt, in fact, extortion. This was journalism. Youre a big j journalist. How does that strike you . This is not journalism. It is a Mafia Organization. They happen to own a newspaper. It is a black mirror form of journalism. For investigative reporters to find out Important Information about famous people, then selling back that information to the famous people they reported on, thats not journalism. Thats extortion. Thats blackmail. Again, this is not the textbook, dictionary definition of extortion and blackmail because theyre not asking for money specifically, but what theyre asking for is for the bezos parties to make statements about National Enquirer and ami that will protect amis relationship with the saudi government, potential potentially, who is paying them money. I think this is what is ultimately happening. This isnt journalism. This is mafia behavior. Thank you to be back. Great podcast, derek thompson. Crazy genius. 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For folks that havent been following as closely what exactly are the issues here . Yeah, craig, for these teachers is the issue they dont feel the district has heard them after 15 months of negotiation they say the district didnt listen and its day one of the strike. In l. A. It was about a specific race, but here in denver its about what teachers call a confusing pay structure which makes it hard to plan a budget because they dont know exactly how much money theyll be taking home at the end of the year and thats what brought so many people out today just outside denver east high school. This is one of the 161 campuses where teachers and students are showing up making sure the district hears them and sees them today and the teachers are not the only ones out here today. Students also turned out, too, showing solidarity for the teachers and a lot of them made their own signs here. My teacher is an uber driver, too, that is a common occurrence having two or three jobs to make ends meet, and i want to introduce you to one of these teachers right now. I am here now with chris herman. Chris, you coach here at denver and teach english at a nearby middle school. Did you ever think youd be standing here today doing this . No, not at all. Whats even crazier is the people that im here with taught me when i was in high school and talking to them about the fact that theyve had second jobs for four, five, six years is mindboggling. Tell me whats so frustrating in all of this . Its taken 15 months to get to this point. What are you hoping to see on the other side here . The point is to know exactly how much money were going to make every year. Right now its sort of a random assortment. Last year i got an extra 4,000 than did i this year because of an arbitrary incentivebased pay for my schools growth when really all we needed as we progress through the years of our teaching we should just be sort of given an extra bonus. Its pretty normal, 750 and 1,000 and youre going to get better every year and thats what its about. Thanks so much. Appreciate your time. You can hear that frustration shared just in this current situation. We had a chance to speak to the lead negotiator with the district to talk about one of the key sticking points in all of this and heres what he had to say. Teachers, they dont know exactly what theyll make from month to month because of the unpredictable, and unreliable bonuses and we need to raise the base salary of the teachers and the bonuses that we need to retain our teachers here. Craig, thats it from denver. How are they keeping the schools open without the teachers, very quickly, morgan . Right now they have minimal staff inside. 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