Stopped because the building is so unstable. Just after midnight, we had some crews doing some surveilling and reconnaissance on the next door roof and noticed a slight lean in the parapit at the top of the exterior wall. For us as firefighters working under a wobbly potentially collapsing exterior wall is extremely dangerous. Nbcs Steve Patterson is outside of the warehouse. Reporter the death toll increasing from 33 to 36 people. This was already one of the worst fires if not the worst fire in oakland history in a place thats known for fires. The 1991 Oakland Hills fire killed 25 people and that number already 36 and the most heartbreaking thing to hear on scene is they certainly almost assuredly expect that number to increase as they continue to comb through the building. The next, combing through the building. Nobody getting into the building from the Recovery Team to the Investigation Team until Structural Engineers deem that once again safe. This process was going to take maybe 24 hours and could be six hurs before the Structural Engineers get on scene and make sure that the structure is once again safe to do the hard work of recovery. And then number three, officials think theyve identified a point of origin, emanating in the first floor near the back of the warehouse in the back wall and may have spread up to the second floor and then the roof but again, thats work to be done when they determine if this structure is safe. Weve been hearing harrowing tales about survivors inside at the time the fire broke. I spoke yesterday to two women who called this place home. There was a residential colony and two women who were there when the fire broke out. You have to listen to their tale of survival. Listen to this. We lost one of our own in the fire and we all knew right away, one of our other members tried to save him and wasnt able to and we all knew right away and i think hes still officially listed as missing because they havent recovered his body yet. Reporter i just had a conversation with the police chief after that latest news update, the chief is saying, again, there is a criminal Investigation Team that has been activated from the d. A. s office. That does not mean theres an open criminal investigation. Thats preliminary work thats being done. She also said they expected some sort of closure today but because of this work stoppage, likely not going to have that. So were waiting until the next update to see when those engineers get back in there to deem this safe so the work can continue. Chris . Thank you so much for that update. Lets get to politics now. A lot happening this morning in Donald Trumps transition to the white house. More than half of the cabinet positions now filled. Ben carson, the renowned neurosurgeon and the only africanamerican in the 2016 race is lead housing and urban development. Simultaneously expanding the search for the key ones, secretary of state. In the meantime, new details in the phone call between trump and taiwan. China isnt happy about it and the president elect isnt happy at china as evidenced from his tweets. Trying to keep criticism at bay saying he called him, the not the other way around but planned the call before the election. I would say to our counterparts in china that this was a moment of courtesy. The president elect talked to president ji two weeks ago that was not a matter of discussion but policy. You and i covered ben carson on the campaign trail and has no experience running an agency but looking to go to hud. Why this choice now . Its an interesting choice too. Given, chris, where these two men were when you look at like the end of 2015 when you and i were out on the campaign trail. A lot of bad blood between dr. Ben carson and donald trump. Calling him pathological, talking about his temper, making a comparison to child molestati molestation, seemed to be forgiven when dr. Carson endorsed donald trump at the time and saying he had guts, energy. Theyve been interacting in an advisory role ever since then. It is coming under fire from some and out with a statement calling dr. Carson, as she puts it, disturbingly unqualified but Lindsey Graham said, hes an agent of change in a department that could use change. Youre seeing reaction from both sides of the aisle there. I think a confidant of dr. Carson told me previously when dr. Carson was sort of considering this position and had gotten the offer right before thanksgiving, took the thanksgiving holiday to think about it, sees himself being transformational, a lot see jack kemp, for example. Look at his upbringing in inner city detroit and could in fact implement some change and improve housing and urban development. Well see how the choice develops. Weve got some movement possibly on the state department as some point as Reince Priebus said in the next two weeks. I have a feeling energy and interior are two other cabinet positions they look at pretty seriously with possible movement coming soon. I think a lot of movement up and down in the secretary of state position between now and then but in the meantime while we wait for the nations next top diplomat, the president elect seems to be doing it himself and getting attention for the phone call with taiwan. Teams been down playing it but trump is tweeting. Whats behind this strategy . Why did he take this call . It was intentional. Thats what im told by people familiar with this discussion, with this decision. It was not a willynilly phone call. This was put in place after the election or at least thought about in a deliberate and serious way. You see them say, its no big deal. Vice president elect speaking about this to others. And interestingly, john huntsman, the former ambassador to china and utah governor considered for a possible position as someone a contender for secretary of state. I think youll continue to see the fallout for a little longer yet, chris. Thank you so much, hallie jackson, as always, keeping up whats going on in trump land. And author of the cothe coming of china. It is important if the trump team has a coherent policy. Taking on china is not a bad thing. It has to happen and i think if secretary clinton would do something similar except a year and a half down the road but you have to have a coherent policy and once you take on china, you cant walk it back. Trump walked it back with the tweet saying i merely picked up the phone and pence walked it back yesterday. You dont see this as potentially a change in decades of how weve approached taiwan. I think it could be. Weve got to see what theyre going to do. This is prearranged. The taiwan president would have never called if she thought it would be rejected because it would be extremely embarrassing. And unity in american actions. How extraordinary would it be if heres what were looking at doing . Because this isnt just u. S. Policy. Taiwan is not recognized by the united nations. Fewer than two dozen have any diplomatic relations. Athletes cant even march in the olympics under taiwan. So what kind of approach does this signal if this is a signal to how the Trump Foreign Policy Team is going to operate . Theyll operate in an unpredictable manner. Theyll take the initiative. China has always challenged new u. S. President s. Both bush and obama in dangerous ways so trump is saying, youre not going to cause a crisis because im going to set the tone and the agenda. Thats fine as long as hes determined because the chinese have a lot of political will. Weve got more cards, theyve got more political will. The question is how this turns out but your first question, this would be Ground Breaking if they upgrade relations with taiwan and sort of downgrade with beijing. I think that needs to happen, but i want it done well. Whats the advantage . I think we need to impose costs on china for unacceptable behavior. We said, lets bring in china to the international system. If were friendly, theyll help us. That hasnt worked especially over the last 16 years. China has really moved backwards, so we need a new approach and imposing costs on china i think is the way. I dont know if trump will do that but a lot of his advisors who set this call up do agree with that approach and might be a good thing if they, as i said, are willing to see this through. Reince priebus agrees there needs to be changes here. What kind of conversations are they having and what kind of reaction would you expect from them . I think they are stunned. They expected trump to actually take them on as president. But this is before the oath of office. Hes now sort of creating his own Foreign Policy in the absence of an nsc and in absence of the state department and i think they look at this and say, oh my god, what happened . And they supported him when he talked about that in march. Now i think they got buyers remorse. It will be fascinating to watch and consequential beyond our ability to express. Gordon chang, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Protesters celebrate after the Dakota Access pipeline route. Jill steins battle recount continues and shell hold a rally just moments from now and a live report on that. Missing california woman found on the side of the road 140 miles from her home. The ransom expert who said he was brought in to bring her home joins me. 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Youve been with the protesters for days now. Whats their reaction at this point . Reporter theyre in a bit of shock. This camp is waking up to the news the Energy TransferPower Company in charge of building this pipeline has released the statement. Well put it up on the screen. The statement basically thumbs the finger at the administration saying this is politics at its worst and the company will continue the construction of the pipeline. Its not going to change the reality and word is spreading that was the case. You said there was jubilation. People thought this was a historic day or moment between native american tribes and the federal government and now it seems like the question is remaining. The veterans havent moved. Ill show you the vet tents. Kind of creating their own little city and many are here to protect the water protectors, put themselves between the authorities and the people on this camp. Add to that, you have the largest gathering of native americans in modern history here and a lot of these tribes are simply angry and when the jubilation broke out, some tribes said, listen, we havent been able to trust the federal government in over 150 years. Why would we trust this decision to stick . Theres a lot of questions here and ill tell you, the National Guard had pulled back from these ridges behind me and theyre back here this morning. Weve seen a number of humvees and up armored trucks. The bridges that separates from the authorities is reinforced. Its a wait and see situation here but certainly all of the elements for a clash are now back on, i think, chris. Thank you so much, cal perry. I want to bring in california congressman raul ruiz, an opponent of the pipeline. Good to see you, congressman, good morning. Good morning, nice to be here, chris. Whats your reaction . The Standing Rock sioux have the right to selfdetermination and have a say in matters that affect their health and cultural preservation. We all have that right and so do the tribes. This isnt just a matter of justice. This is the law. And the problem was that the army corps of engineers in their haste to fast track this process and permit did not heed the warnings and the severe warnings of the epa that said their assessment on the environmental risk was off. That it was too risky. They had to disregard two sacred sites and no meaningful consultation with the tribes. Thats where we have this conflict now and the fact that the army corps of engineer went back and reviewed their decisionmaking process and realized they were in violation of those recommendations that were offered by the other agencies are now deciding to do the right thing and not allow the pipeline to go over federal land that could put at risk clean Drinking Water of not only the tribes but millions of families that live down stream from that site. You know opponents of your position are ready for the next week. You saw that in the tweet from paul ryan. North Dakota Republican congressman kramer said, todays unfortunate decision sends a very chilling signal to others who want to build infrastructure in this country. So what are the chances this decision holds in your mind . Whats the next step . To make sure we hold the administration, the army corps of engineers accountable to their process and that they make sure that they follow the laws that are in the books right now. Thats the problem, you know, they say its Big Government at its worst when government doesnt follow their own laws or when it doesnt benefit their own political ambition. But im an emergency medical physician. Im a Public Health expert. I visited the site and saw that 16,000 gallons of oil could be transported in one minute and any leak could be devastating, catastrophic to the drinking wart. Thats just not my opinion. This was the opinion of the scientists and experts from the epa, department of interior and others, go back, do a full environmental statement and then make your decisions and this is what they did and realized it was too risky. So rerouting it is not an alternative. You want this stopped and a whole new review done. No, maam. I dont want them to build underneath lake oahe and they should determine where else they could transport this oil but keep it away from the tribes drinking sites. If it was too risky near bismarck, why would it be okay to build it over the waters that the gnnative americans use for their health . Im sure well talk again as this continues. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Up next, the latest on the president ial election recounts. Jill stein is holding a rally outside of trump tower this morning and is Donald Trumps selection to the highest position in the world having an impact on others around the world . New fallout overseas. This one is from Channel Islands national park. Coronado. Saguaro. Youll see theres one thats an eagle. My number one goal is getting more funds out to parks because some animals and plants are only found in one place in the world, and thats in some national parks. I find thats a great cause, and i want to support it. avo the subaru share the love event has donated over four Million Dollars to help the national parks. Get a new subaru, and well donate two hundred and fifty dollars more. Put a little love in your heart. 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There are some, i would say, 20 green Party Supporters there, people in favor of the recount. Theres also a number of Trump Supporters who are there telling the green Party Supporters, look, you lost, get over it. But the green party is not getting over it. The headline from this press conference is that this morning they are going to federal court in pennsylvania to seek an emergency order to get a statewide recount in that state. Now, as youll remember, donald trump won pennsylvania by about 49,000 votes but today, the green Party Officials called the voting process in pennsylvania a disgrace and a disaster. Saying it uses an antiquated Voting System that doesnt even have a paper trail for the votes that are cast. And it says it is punitive and it is wrong and its a violation of constitutional rights. So theyre going to go to court trying to get a third state to recount its votes. Chris . Anne thompson, thank you. New concerns in europe about a possible trump effect among populist movements there. In austria, voters rejected a far right candidate. The left leaning candidate won the president ial election. Bill is there for us. What can we make of these results out of europe . Reporter is this proof of populism or the trump effect or these results distinct to the politics of italy and australia . Not ready to resign his office. He took a huge gamble to call this referendum and he lost 1640. Huge cry of protest from 33 million italian voters. He was known as demolition man and planned to kick start italys economy and he didnt, theyre planning to kick him out. 40 used unemployment. This was a protest vote, principally. The populist candidate, the far right norbert hoffvehover. Still got 46 of the vote so wrong to say that the populist wave sweeps across the west has gone. It hasnt. The five leaders in this area who were in power at the start of 2016, lets include president obama and president hollande. He wont stand next year. R rensey. The only one left standing is Angela Merkel and is sad at the italian result but europe is going in the right direction. I think if you polled all of the 500 million voters, they might disagree, this is without question, another crisis for the european union. Another chance for the economy to be struggling even more. Im curious what youre hearing there. I just came back from europe myself. I got constant questions about donald trump. You were there though much longer periods of time. What is your sense of the feeling about president elect trump in europe and what impact that might be having about the way people see their own elections . Reporter theres no question most people in europe were frankly horrified by the election of donald trump. Theyre frightened, theyre frightened of what he might do, of his inexperience, of russia. Now, Hillary Clinton was no guarantor of peace with russia. She was going to be more hawkish, we think, than donald trump. Donald trump seems to seek some accommodation with president putin but thats got nerves ji g jingling. But trump has fans here in europe, true of the far right open admirer of trump, putin. Thats the next test of the trump effect. There will be elections in the netherlands, in france, excuse me, and in germany coming up. So while we might say that populism has been given a bit of a kick here by the failure of the far right party in austria. There will be many more tests of the trump effect in months to come. Standing outside of that beautiful backdrop in vienna. In just the last hour, officials in oakland, california, updating the deadly warehouse blaze that killed at least 36 people now. 11 victims have been identified. Investigators combing through the charred debris saying they expect to recover additional bodies but a final death toll days away. Sioux tribe is cheering the armys decision to reroute the the oil pipeline through tribal land and that decision, a major victory for thousands of supporters who spent months protesting alongside them but unclear how long it will hold up under a trump administration. House Speaker Paul Ryan called it Big GovernmentDecision Making at its worst. A man armed with an Assault Rifle opened fire inside a popular pizza shop in washington, dc. The 28yearold from North Carolina is said to have told police he came to the restaurant to investigate the socalled pizza gate that made the rounds during the president ial campaign. That suggested the local peas e pizzeria was at the center of a ring by john podesta. What happened today demonstrates that reckless conspiracy theories come with consequences and i hope that those fanning these flames will take a moment to stop right away. The suspect is in Police Custody this morning and do not believe anyone else is involved. Dylan roof, the man at the center of the killing of the church goers, he made the request in a handwritten note to represent himself. Opening statements in that trial are set for wednesday. Still ahead, Donald Trumps tough talk on punishing u. S. Companies that move jobs overseas. Will he keep jobs in the u. S. Or spark a global trade war . The california woman found on thanksgiving day. Ill talk to the consultant brought in to orchestrate her release. David. Whats going on . Oh hey thats it . Yeah. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the Tuition Assistance program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. [and her new business i do, to jeanetgo. Jeanette was excellent at marrying people. But had trouble getting paid. Not a good time, jeanette. Even worse. 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That goes against what we had heard on friday where the jury said it was hopelessly deadlocked 111 and that lone juror had written the note to the judge saying he could not in good conscience convict michael slager. Other news that the jury sent five questions to the judge including, heres three of them, why was voluntary manslaughter offered in addition to murder . That was one question and what is meant by imminent danger and a fifth question, does selfdefense apply for a Police Officer as an ordinary citizen . Theres a brief recess 15 to 20 minutes under way as the judge considers how to respond to those questions but this is clearly a jury now after 18 hour o s or so of deliberations is heavily considering this. We thought this was headed for a hung jury after the note from the jury, a very unusual note in the sense that we got some sense of the inner workings of the jury deliberations even before the trial was over. Despite the jurors going in and out on friday and asking for a break over the weekend. We are still in deliberations now, the jurors have many questions. It doesnt look like theyre near the end of their deliberations anytime soon. But again, thats a big question right now. How long does this go on . Before the judge declares a mistrial, chris. The sense that i got, just, again, reading about this and not being there, gabe, based on the things said about the jury foreman or around the courtroom was that there was a lot of frustration inside that deliberation room like there really was a sense weve done everything we could do and the judge said, go back and go at it. Reporter thats right, in the followup note from the juror late friday afternoon, the jury foreperson said this person was clearly having issues and there seemed to be a lot of dissension in that room. Walter scotts family. They late friday afternoon said they were looking forward to coming back here on monday and a News Conference here by local africanamerican activists urging justice for the family of walter scott but again, new developments this morning, chris, and suggesting that this could be more complicated than we first realized. The jury here at first, we thought it may have been deadlocked 111. According to the defense attorney for michael slager, he claims that it is a majority of jurors that are still undecided. So well have to wait and see how this plays out. The court expected to be back in session 15 minutes or so. Gabe gutierrez, thank you so much. Up next, tax and c consequences. The warning donald trump made against businesses who would sent u. S. Jobs overseas. And why sarah palin, floated as a potential trump cabinet member calling him out for his crony capitalism. Stay with us. Im hall of famer jerry west and my life is basketball. 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The interesting thing, hes talks about putting taxes and tariffs in a case where hes done this with the owner of the airconditioning company, used the carrot so far and not so much the stick. What hes going try to do is use this as a pr strategy into thinking, if we move these jobs to mexico, well get in a big fight and not look good publicly and maybe think twice about doing it but so far outside of the mainstream of conservative economic thought. Generally, theyre free markets, not people who dont believe in taking on individual companies and let the free market decide and tariffs on companies that make goods in mexico, thats an invitation to trade war and higher prices. Its a dangerous thing to do. When you talk about individual companies, his Campaign Staff will talk about carrier. The thousands of jobs going away. Is this a oneoff or some sort of strategy that he has that he thinks he can use time and time and time again . I think the idea of using the bully pulpit and intimidate strategy is what he thinks he can use to win the pr war. Theyre still moving over a thousand jobs to mexico and getting these tax breaks. Its not like theyve been punished heavily. Theres a play book. If youre an American Company that thinks, we could get tax breaks by just threaten to move to mexico. Say, were going to move this, maybe we can get trump to give us a good deal to stay. Thats a dangerous precedent when you offer he has cthese ca. Nobodys going to try to make the argument there arent people not hurting, having said that, you talk to folks in the obama administration. They always bristle throughout the course of the campaign at the idea the economy had not improved under barack obama and the housing or Unemployment Rate or how much money people are making and those sort of standards that people are doing better than they were then. He does, donald trump, inherit something different. It couldnt be any different. Barack obama came in with the Auto Industry in crisis, the worst banking crisis weve seen, unemployment heading to 10 , were now at 4. 6 , Something Like 16 million new jobs under the obama administration, wages are going up, stock market, as you mentioned, all time highs. House prices finally recovered to where they were before the housing crisis started. Are there problems . There definitely are. Size of the labor force. He could, you know, hurt this with a trade war and not help the situation. In the last 30 seconds, any kind of feeling within the Economic Community about whats the one or two things he could do to address, frankly, what got him elected . People felt left out of this recovery. One thing he could do in Corporate Tax reform is making it more hospitable to do business in the u. S. Thats a positive he could do. He could get that rate down and make it better for companies to start factories and industries here but if you do a giant across the board tax cut for individuals and corporations, you could blow up the debt and deficit. That would not be good for the people hurting in this economy but he has an opportunity on Corporate Tax reform to do something positive for business. You and i can do our part. We admitted on the break, we have not done our christmas shopping. Hit amazon hard taeoday. Thank you, ben. Appreciate you coming c a strange case of a california woman who was missing. Ill bring in cameron gamble who was brought in to negotiate her release. [burke] hot dog. Seen it. Covered it. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. Thats why i have the spark cash card from capital one. With it, i earn unlimited 2 cash back on all of my purchasing. 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She was a mutual friend of the family and asked if i could consult with the family and give my opinion as to what i had thought taken place. Ive covered far too many of these cases and you really get to the point with the families willing to try anything and tried very nontraditional approaches. Your name came up. This is what sherrys husband, keith, said about all that. There was no idea or thought that if i think could work, that i was not going to try. What was your approach going to be and did you find that family members were skeptical that it could work . I really only talked to keith about it. I didnt really speak to any of the other family members and keith at that point like he said in the video, he was absolutely willing to try anything and we felt like this could work because when you get to that point of desperation, you do try to do whatever might possibly work but keith was all for it. At the very beginning, in fact, it was keith who brought the kidnapper ransom idea to me via the individual who came forward with the money. No money ever exchanged hands, correct . Correct. Why do you think this was at least part of the reason that she was released . Well, if you just look at the timeline on this, theres a couple of things going on here. I was the only one willing to go public and call it for what i believed it was, an abduction. Alongside the family. They believed it was as well. We released the first video. It goes viral on both social media site as well as just the media outlet. That was our point was to get it to go viral, theres an option here for these abductors and when the ransom wasnt taken up on, the other option was let her go. You can walk away from this and if you dont, so youre aware, theres a bounty now. As i stated in the video, thats not something i control. Thats something we are willing to add to the pot. And then you have less than 24 hours later. These abductors just let her go. Keith, sherry distraught. I want to play what he said to abc. They jumped up on the couch with me and he knew something was up and he said, dad, you can tell me anything. For a little 4yearold to say that, i wasnt prepared for that, so i just said, your mommy went running and she didnt come home and were all looking for her right now. I dont think i ever lost hope, but it was really, eating away at me. I had read some of the things including that critics said you might take advantage of the familys grief. How much pushback did you get and did you waiver on your thought that this could possibly move things in the right direction . You know, there was definitely some pushback initially, obviously, from the Law Enforcement side. They felt the approach was unconventional. My response was, when you look at a situation like this, the entire thing is unconventional. A linear approach wont work. And obviously now the pushback is that i took advantage of a family, not sure how. I was retained by not the family but the anonymous donor for 1 and donated to st. Judes children hospital. No profiteering in this. I was reluctant to step in this. My wife said, are you willing to do this and offer your support . I said, not unless im asked and it wasnt until i was asked and even at that point, how can i get involved and offer some hope to keith and it was at that point we had this conversation about what to do next. Everybody is glad that Sherry Papini is home and safe and cameron gamble, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us today. Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. Coming up, high honors for some of the nations most talented artists. Are you on medicare . Do you have the coverage you need . Open enrollment ends december 7th. Dont put it off til later. Nows the time to get on a path that could be right for you. With Unitedhealthcare Medicare solutions. 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