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To escape of gatlanburg, tennessee. Smoke choked roads, fleeing intense flames, looking and spreading like molten lava. Residents thankful to make it out of their homes alive. They let me go back to get my animals out, to get them safely. Were all safe now and my son. So were fine. Reporter terrified guests trapped inside, the fire too close and too dangerous for them to leave. These pictures taken by an employee of the hotel showing the fire burning right outside. Local Officials Say 30 structures devoured by the flames including an apartment complex. More than 500 acres burning in the small town several roads through Great Smokey Mountains National park have been closed. Officials say 70mileanhour wind gusts fueled the out of control fires near several popular tourist destinations including dollywood, the areas largest theme park. Just days ago, Country Music legend releasing this Public Service announcement. Please help firefighters avoid wildfires. Reporter parton asking to help protect the great Smokey Mountains by observing burn banninbans and reporting fires whenever they see them. So far, no structures inside the theme park have been damaged, but staff and dozens of guests were evacuated as a precaution. National park employees were evacuated from the area too. Ive been federal service for 25 years and nothing that weve experienced has prepared us for what we experienced here in the last 24 hours. Its been just an unbelievable. All right, again, that was from our affiliate down there in tennessee. Joined now on the phone, david ware, pigeon forge, where dollywood is located. Mayor ware, whats the condition on the ground . We appreciate the opportunity to spread the word to your viewers. We got hopeful that some rain slowed some things. Started in the chimneys in the National Park and due to the extreme dry conditions and the wind gust we had, which some topped over 70 miles per hour, it spread to pigeon forge. Its smokey out but Property Damage has been limited to nonstructures here in the city of pigeon forge. We did have an evacuation in towns where its residential areas. Fight a couple of fires to make sure theyre contained but today when the sun came out, we had crews to get their eyes on the site and see what kind of damage were dealing with. I know youre north of gatlinburg, mayor, but there had been some reports that there had been a number of those wildly popular tourist destinations in gatlinburg, those ski resorts, a number of them had been destroyed, burned to the ground. Are you aware of any of those reports or are you aware if thats true or not . Yes. I really dont want to speak for gatlinburg. Theyve got their own press. But i do know over gatlinburg, the ski resort is in tact and ripleys emporium is in tact and pigeon forge, dollywood is protected. Theres very little damage there at dollywood. Theyll probably release their own information soon about plans to reopen and trying to condition takcontain the fires and keep popup fires from happening. We expect more wind today which is not good for us. The fire spread so fast, it originally burnt a certain layer of the underbrush. We make sure those things dont start more fires. At this point, everyone okay there . Im sure there are some injuries. I havent gotten any official reports of injuries in the city of pigeon forge, but like i said, last night was a reactionary. It spread so fast because of the wind and the conditions, it was a reactionary deployment for the Fire Department and over 15 other agencies around the area that helped us. Now, we can take time to get out and get our eyes on the sites and see what damage were dealing with. So we expect some news to come soon. The deployed teams start to report back. Mayor david ware of pigeon forge, tennessee. As these wildfires close in, hundreds if not thousands of folks getting out. Our thoughts and prayers with those folks who are getting out. Our thoughts and prayers with the firefighters as well who are doing what they do. Nbc meteorologist bill karins joins me now. Bill, in a lot of ways, this would seem like the perfect storm. These heavy winds, a drought down south like we havent seen in these parts in some time as well. Exactly. We deal with the west for so many years and this moved into the south. We had a lot of fires over the last month. This is the fire map as of yesterday here in the mountains of North Carolina and a couple in tennessee. What happened is the chimney fire, winds up to 50 or 70 miles per hour. The embers went down towards the gatlinburg area and a lot of leaf fallen. A ton of underbrush burned and took off. If you hear the reports from the residents in the shelter, got a knock on the door, didnt realize the fire was coming over the hill. They ran out, got in their cars, literally took themselves, maybe their pets and that was i have the. So many people, hundreds of homes lost. They have nothing. They literally just saved their own lives which obviously were thankful for that but now waking up to the reality that they dont have their bedrooms or homes. Hundreds of structures burned meaning a tennessee Emergency Management reported that three resorts around gatlinburg had been destroyed, but now weve gotten video in from the uber gatlinburg. The ski area resort and spa. They put up video saying theyre fine. We now know that resort is fine but west gate Smokey Mountain, thats completely gone and black bear falls, a log home community, all rentals. That is completely gone too. This is a tourist town. About 14,000 people who live there. All asked to evacuate and all gone. Theres a reason we are not showing aerial pictures is because theres flight restrictions. They dont want interference from the immediate why. We don media. When we get the pictures in, you can imagine what it will look like and the rain we got a half inch, barely denlt lly dented t. How can it be . It was so dry that just a half inch, you know, these fires get so hot that they evaporate a lot of water. A temperature gauge read 118 degrees in downtown gatlinburg with the peak of the fire. You can imagine a half inch of rain, dump on the fireplace at your house. It doesnt do much. Theyll get another dose, hopefully that will be heavier. Bill karins keeping a close eye on whats happening down in tennessee. Well check back in with you, of course, a little bit later. Thank you, bill. New developments now at ohio state where classes have resumed this morning a day after a somali born student used his car and a butcher knife as weapons, wounding 11 before police managed to shoot and kill him. This morning, we are learning hr about that attacker. 18yearold adul left behind quite the rant on facebook. And not ruling out terrorism. Police are also looking at this campus surveillance footage. This is the suspect driving a relatives car, police say. Moments later, they say he jumps a curb and crashes into unsuspecting faculty and students when police say he got out of his car with the butcher knife and attacked. Lets get to osus campus. Kevin tibbles. We understand there are still some more in the hospital . Reporter well, the good news this morning, craig, is that all but four of those who were injured in this attack yesterday which just happened over my shoulder here in the engineering wing of the osu campus, all but four have been released from the hospital. The four that remain in the hospital, none are suffering from lifethreatening injuries according to the authorities here. You just mentioned the young man who is a suspect in this case. He came here apparently with his family from somalia as refugees. They say hes been a student here at osu coming here after attending another college nearby. In terms of motive, that everyone is now discussing, well, of course, the authorities are looking at that Facebook Rant that people stumbled across yesterday but at this point in time, the fbi is now on the scene. They are obviously going through the last known whereabouts, last known residents of this young man trying to come up with further clues to what could have led him to commit this act yesterday. Interestingly enough, there was a fire alarm, some sort of alarm was pulled at the school before this young man showed up in the honda and jumped on the curb and smashed into people leaving that building because of the fire alarm. So it was sort of a perfect storm, perfect situation that a campus cop was in the vicinity when this happened. The authorities here say it all transpired within a couple of minutes, about 2 minutes from the time this young man mounted the curb, hit people, left his car with the butcher knife and then was shot dead by campus police. Craig . Kevin tibbles on the campus of Ohio State University this morning. Lets bring in nbc terrorism analyst malcom nance now. At this point, again, officials being very careful to say they do not have a clear cut motive but we do have this Facebook Post where he says that attacks on muslims around the world, quote, led to a boiling point and that he cant take it anymore. What do authorities do with this . The fbi is going to be the lead agency on the analysis and the information hunt related to what motivated this individual to do this. Now, within the realm of terrorism, they havent come out and actually stated it but all of the facets of this attack have the hallmarks of a selfradicalized individual who for some reason, not a strange reason but for some reason had decided it was time to take on all the readings he had been getting on the internet from Anwar Alawlaki and the exhortations from al qaeda and isis to do your own attack and he carried out an attack that was a small version of what we saw in nice last year and what you see in israel about 50 times, thats using a vehicle as a weapons system and then after he rams the people on the sidewalk, gets out and carries out this individual weapons attack with a butcher knife. W the fbi will see if hes externally linked or selfinspired. He was born in somalia. Lived in pakistan for seven years before moving to this country and sounds like part of a story that unfortunately weve heard time and time in this country as well. Many situations like this, we want to know, what did we miss . Were there signs . Is this something that could have been prevented . What else will investigators look for in regard to those things . Its interesting. In the previous report, you mentioned that someone pulled a fire alarm. And whether it was just coincidence and coincidence takes a lot of planning but that would have masked a lot of people out on the sidewalk so the fbi is probably running this down quickly today to determine, was there a coconspirator, did he stop and try to get someone out there . Theres an entire myriad of information theyll be looking at. Is he connected to an external group . Are there people in the United States who may be aiding or assisting this . Why knife and not a gun . It would seem if someone is hell bent on ruining as many lives as possible, it would be far easier to do that with a gun instead of a knife. Well, if the individual understands that, you know, bringing yourself to buying a weapon, purchasing a weapon requires a lot of documentation, even if youre going to do a suicide type weapons attack, granted, some you can buy or rent on the street amongst gangs but for the most part, a knife is a weapon at hand. Its an improvised weapon. You can take it and carry out that effect. Also, in a lot of these radical extremist groups, they prefer the manual weapon to show your depth of commitment and you see a lot of people who carried out beheadings and other mass weapons attacks we saw an incident like this in england where they beheaded a soldier on the street and stood there waiting to be shot. Thats a component of what we call the suicide weapons attacks. Its quite possible he took that to heart. Malcolm nance, thank you for your insight sir. Always appreciate that. My pleasure. A plane carrying a Brazilian Soccer Team goes down in columbia killing more than 70 people. 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At least 75 people dead this morning after carrying a Brazilian Soccer Team crashed this morning in columbia. 81 people were on board. We have gotten word now there were six survivors. The plane itself on its way to international airport. Rescue efforts were hampered by heavy rain. Tom costello. What do we know about what happened . Reporter look at the hillside. Its dense foliage. Almost looks like a jungle approach. Its remarkable anybody survived but thats the scene this morning with daybreak. Just the twisted broken remains of the British Aerospace 146 that went down on approach and it was carrying this Brazilian Soccer Team that had been living a dream. The soccer season. Theyre talking about the possibility that the plane may have run out of fuel or that it had been experiencing some sort of an electrical problem just before it crashed. The mayor of meade calling this a tragedy of huge proportions. And seven people initially survived. One of the seven, however, died. Among the 81 people on board this top Brazilian Soccer Team, they were on their way to columbia for the soccer match and we believe two of the soccer players survived, but one of them apparently has passed away. That leaves now six survivors from this terrible crash there. Because of the rains at the time, the only way relieve was to drive a four by four. And the pilot told the control tower the pilot had an electrical problem. We know no more than that. But the team posted a video on facebook just before the crash, before leaving. Talking about how excited they were to be going into this final match for this final leg of this important competition in south american soccer but all play suspended as they try to find more victims on the crash site. Tom costello for us on that devastating plane crash there in south america. Tom, thank you. All right. Back here, Donald Trumps cabinet continues to take form with news of the president elects pick for health and Human Services secretary, but still up in the air, who will be trumps secretary of state . A look at whats playing out behind the scenes there. Also, more on that victory tour. [burke] at farmers, weve seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. Even a rodent ridealong. [dad] alright, buddy, dont forget anything [kid] i wont, dad. [captain rod] happy Tuesday Morning captain rod here. Its pretty hairy out on the interstate. Traffic is literally crawling, but there is some movement on the eastside overpass. Getting word of another collision. [burke] it happened. December 14th, 2015. And we covered it. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum they are the natural borns enemy of the way things are. Yes, ideas are scary, and messy and fragile. But under the proper care, they become something beautiful. The Transition Team announcing that tom price will lead the department of health and Human Services. That georgia congressman, one of the loudest critics of the health care law, also the author of a nearly 300 page bill on a potential replacement. Also today, the secretary of state saga continues at trump tower. Mitt romney meeting again with the president elect for what appears to be a second round interview. John bolton, bob corker, Rudy Giuliani, general petraeus, all of them Still Holding out hope that it will be them. Nbcs Hallie Jackson covering all of it for us joining us live from trump tower. Lets get this transition stuff in a moment. I understand youve got some new reporting on a socalled thank you tour. Reporter yeah, and weve been reporting on the transition in the cabinet appointments, craig. Lcome back, by the way, and lets start with the thank you tour or the victory lap. Donald trump back on the road this week kicking it off with the first rally thursday night in cincinnati. So this is very sort of campaignish feeling, right . Youve heard the president elects Transition Team about wanting to get on the road to so thank you in the key states like ohio, presumably like michigan, wisconsin, and others who helped put donald trump over the edge. Thats beginning this week and packing our bags to get out on the road with donald trump. Its an unusual move but one that seems to fit with the president elects appreciation and frankly his desire to be in front of big crowds like this. We saw that for the last 18 months and continue to see that during this part of the transition. You mentioned new reporting on the Transition Team as well. Transportation . Reporter nailed it. Yep. We expect later today according to members of the president elects Transition Team to learn who his transportation secretary will be. This comes after a flurry of activity here. Weve got transportation today. We heard about health and Human Services. We talked about that news last night. We officially got confirmation of this this morning after we broke it last night and we see a lot of folks in the mix for secretary of state including mitt romney who will be here later tonight in new york for kind of a second round of interview, senator bob corker and other sources we speak with. I dont know if you know the answer but certainly not going to stop me from asking it. Mitt romney, a guy who by most accounts was a reasonably successful governor. Republican president ial nominee worth a wheelbarrow load of money. Why does he want to be secretary of state . For donald trump. A guy that he called a phony. Reporter right. So the questions of romneys leadership of the Never Trump Movement aside and some of the things hes said about donald trump, i think, overall, craig, the answer to your question would be when the commander in chief asks you to serve, the vast majority of officials who dedicated their life to Public Service would probably have difficulty saying no. And if there is a potential, for example, if mitt romney sees potential to do good and to serve his country as secretary of state and is asked to do so, i think thats why he would potentially or could potentially lean towards the job if offered. Obviously, its a question mark, especially considering we dont know whos been given the position or in the leading positions for that position but we do know romney and Rudy Giuliani are right there at the top. Hallie jackson outside of the trump tower for us on what a appears to be quite the dreary morning. Thank you. Thanks, buddy. Jury selection under way in the trial of the man charged in last years Charleston Church shooting. The judge ruling yesterday that the suspect dylan roof will be allowed to represent himself in court. The implication of that ruling. We continue to follow breaking news in tennessee, that inferno burning through the Smokey Mountain town of gatlinburg, forcing Mass Evacuations there. My business was built with passion. But i keep it growing by making every dollar count. Thats why i have the spark cash card from capital one. With it, i earn unlimited 2 cash back on all of my purchasing. And that unlimited 2 cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business. Which adds fuel to my bottom line. Whats in your wallet . Parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what . You could apply for a Medicare Supplement Insurance Plan whenever you want. No enrollment window. No waiting to apply. 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Mandatory evacuation orders remain in place for gatlinburg and pigeon forge. Roughly 1400 people have already been forced to flee that area. Former North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager taking the stand in his own defense this morning. Slater faces 30 years to life if convicted of murder for the Fatal Shooting of walter scott. Thats the black motorist that was shot five times in the back as he ran during a traffic stop last year. And Syrian Government forces have recaptured key parts of the city of aleppo in what many describe as the heaviest bombing in the city. Heaviest bombing in the city in syrias five year civil war. The United Nations estimating 16,000 civilians have been displaced by the Syrian Governments latest advance. Conservative estimates putting death toll close to 200, 250,000. The federal trial of dylan roof, the accused killer of nine people in charleston, south carolina, in that charge laurch year in the second day of jury selection. Granted roofs request to represent himself in the hate crimes. The decision raising the possibility that roof who had previously admitted to the shootings will be able to directly face survivors and victims family members. Chief Legal Correspondent ari melber with me now. What are the implications beyond this idea that this guy might be able to talk to the survivors of that Church Shooting . That, as you know, is a twist in this case thats significant. You were down there covering this. A lot of people came together, looked at this mass murder, this hate crime, this terror and feel a great antipathy towards this young man. Imagine him cross examining them is dramatic but the real legal consequence is in representing himself in such a complex capital case, hes far morexecu what might that mean for appeal . For an appeal, lawyers could allow he was wrong to allow him to represent himself, saying he wasnt competent but you dont have to be 100 sane to be found competent to represent yourself. Just be able to understand the consequences of that decision and be able to make it knowing youre at risk. The judge told mr. Roof, youre making your case harder by doing this. Were told the jury selection could take the better part of a month down there. What do we know about jurors examined so far or excused so far . Theyre basically trying to get down to a jury pool of 70 out of several hundred. Close to 500 theyre looking at. 12 jurors and several alternates. What youre doing is basically trying to make sure they have no obvious bias and willing to approach it in an open mind and a capital case, you have to confirm that they are not so opposed to the Death Penalty in general that they wouldnt be open to applying it here in this case and what we know from early indications is that mr. Roof having taken this dramatic step of representing himself is not participating much in the questioning of those jurors and i should note he does have legal advisors. Ive said this before, trying to do your own defense is like trying to do surgery on yourself. Its dangerous even if you were a doctor or knew what you were doing. When people do it without legal training, he doesnt know the first thing to ask or how to launch an objection or anything else. He hasnt been active in the questioning of those jurors yet. It was interesting yesterday. Asked him whether he wanted cocounsel to sit next to him or behind him. He said, next to him. Before i let you go, the latest tweet from the president elect, this is one in which he says no one should be allowed to burn the American Flag. If they do, they should perhaps lose their citizenship or a year in jail. What do you make of that. Flag burning, can it be made illegal . You have someone the incoming head of the federal government speaking about two consequences here that we know are unconstitutional. The Supreme Court has long said that flag burning in most cases is a protected right. Justice scalia a part of that decision, whether you like it or not, this is speech. We basically have a right to speech and expression in this country and number two, you have the incoming head of the federal government talking about stripping people of their citizenship. I dont care where he says it, on a tweet or a speech. The point is that content, not the medium. And the content should be concerning as a matter of freedom and constitutional law and that is completely apart and separate whether hes trying to distract us. He should know these are unconstitutional things that he is blithely referring to. If he doesnt, he should be made aware and up to the congress, the courts, the press, the public to deal with this. Our chief Legal Correspondent, ari melber, thanks as always, sir. We are going to talk with jill stein here in just a bit. Jill stein, of course, the Green Party Candidate who launched the recount effort in three states. I asked her, very simply. Why . The itsy bitsy spider went up the waterspout. Down came the rain and clogged the gutter system creating a leak in the roof. Luckily the spider recently had geico help him with homeowners insurance. Water completely destroyed his swedish foam mattress. He got full replacement and now owns the sleep number bed. His sleep number setting is 25. Call geico and see how much you could save on homeowners insurance. Even if youre trying your best. Along with diet and exercise, oncedaily toujeo® may help you control your blood sugar. Get into a daily groove. Lets groove tonight. Share the spice of life. Baby, from the makers of lantus®, slice it right. 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Why should this massive effort go forward . These are fundamentally different things. The requirement for search warrants is about protecting civil liberties. Votes are something were entitled to, as voters, we have a right to be confident in our Voting System and this really should be automatic. We shouldnt have to go to these extraordinary lengths to raise millions of dollars to jump through incredible administrative hoops to even assure the public that we can trust these votes. That theyre accurate. You said yourself theres been no evidence of voter fraud. If theres been no widespread evidence, why this effort . Let me separate voter fraud which is usually referred to as people voting who are not registered voters. People voting illegally. The fraud on the part of the voters. Were not looking at fraud on the part of the voters but mistakes in Voting Machines known to make errors and miscount the votes. Theyve been declared illegal. Some of the machines used in wisconsin have been declared illegal in california because theyre basically wide open to mistakes. We should. Other states are in the process of doing that as well so we want to have confidence. We should note we should note that nbcs own vote watch program found no credible or widespread evidence of any machines malfunctioning, any changing of votes either. I think we should just note that for the purposes of our conversation. We should also note this. The margin in wisconsin between donald trump and hillary clinton, that margin right now about 22,000 votes. You received roughly 31,000 votes in that state. What do you think the outcome might have been had you decided not to run . Most green voters would not have voted and a substantial portion, onethird, would have voted for donald trump. Unfortunately, the numbers are very clear that absent my campaign, the results would have been absolutely no different. It would not have changed the outcome in any state. Thats very clear. We are not the spoilers, but leading the effort here to be sure that we did not have a spoiled election, there were not errors, that there was not tampering and this is not a movement being started by me or the green party. All we did was put out a press release and open up a web page and it took off by itself. You raised 6. 5 million at last check according to your web site, 6. 5 million of the 7 million you need to conduct these recounts. Whats in this for you personally . How much of this is being driven by ego . So, let me say, ive always been committed to ensuring that we can trust our Voting System and to fixing the grievous problems. Im practicing political medicine because its the mother of all illnesses, to tell you the truth. Whats in it for me is a world to survive in and our kids are not locked into debt forever. How does this advance any of those efforts . Because we cannot get the policies that we need and we deserve if we cannot vote in a system that actually records our intentions. We must have a, we must have confidence in our votes in order to impact policy. You know, donald trump talked about a rigged election system and he got enormous resonance with that. But there has been no evidence that any of it is rigged. We, the voters, we, the people subject to this economy, the offshoring of our jobs, to the skyrocketing of health care feel like the system is not working for us. We dont need to be convinced. People have contributed small donations. Over 140,000 people came out of the woodwork here in order to move this forward. We have to start somewhere. By reclaiming this promise of democracy and were going to start by ensuring that we have a Voting System that we can trust. Jill stein, Green Party Nominee for president. Jill, thank you so much for your time. Keep us posted on your efforts. Will do. Good to talk with you. Host of the hugh hewitt show. Good to see you, my friend. Thanks for coming on. Happy giving tuesday to you. Good to be back. Well talk about giving tuesday in a moment. Thank you for that. Lets start with jill stein. Your reaction to the recount efforts. Its a scam and on giving tuesday, 6. 5 million could do for the Salvation Army or the Semper Fi Fund or a number of organizations, it could do so much good and instead, its built out of people in a nonexistent controversy to build a list for an irritant party that probably cross hillary clinton, and upset with her but i hate the waste. I think its scam and ought to be called a scam. Tom price, i saw on the twitter yesterday. You are a fan of the congressman getting the nod at hhs. He does actually have a plan on paper to replace and repeal obamacare. Among the other things, it would cancel the medicaid expansion. It would allow insurers to cross statelines and states could be penalized for preexisting conditions. How do you think his nomination will sit with people who need Health Coverage but by no fault of their own have cancer or heart condition or some other preexisting condition . I think price will be confirmed by an overwhelming margin including a number of democrats. Hes a nearly perfect nominee. Ive known for a long time. The only thing going against him, undergraduate and med school. Hes going to be wrong at least once a year when bucs beat the wolverines and thought about this a lot. Helped it get started and there are controversial spots to the proposal but a legislative proposal is only where you begin. And what we have in soon to be secretary of hhs price, someone who will overhaul the food and drug administration, someone who will look at the vast array of programs under hhs but really attack the obamacare meltdown from the perspective of a provider who cares about the patience and the doctor and his point of view will persuade a lot of democrats, i think, the come forward. Ive already heard the president elect say, maybe we keep the preexisting conditions. 60 minutes. So its going to be a negotiation but dr. Price and congressman price, about the perfect person to lead that when the president elect sends someone up to the hill to have those conversations. Let me ask you about the president elect and what he tweeted earlier this morning. Folks who burn the American Flag should perhaps be put in jail or lose citizenship. We heard from our chief Legal Correspondent who did note the Supreme Court has said that flag burning is protected by the first amendment. Justice scalia himself. Why can he tweet out stuff like this . Guy hasnt had a News Conference in about five months. Hes not taking questions from reporters anymore. In front of a podium. And again, there was word last week, stopped on to the classified National Security briefings as well. Lets take the tweet in two parts. About johnson, texas. Have v. Johnson, it was narrowly overturning the statute in 1989. It was a respectable minority point of view we thought to have a special category for the United States flag. Among the dissenters, the liberal john paul, bronze star recipient and medal of honor, bob carie denounced flag burning statutes and its an interesting and long conversation about whether or not there ought to be a category when it comes to flags. If not, a disreputable point of view to agree on it. Almost certainly constitutional. I just never use never. Its probably never constitutional to take someones citizenship away for any reason but almost certainly constitutional. What did he do . Started the conversation. I dont know why he came today. Its an interesting one. Its not an open and shut book but not what id be talking about. Id talk about tom price. Treasury. We havent confirmed that yet. Ah. Well talk about giving tuesday now. 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