The president look bad were also expecting to get comments from the president this hour as the white house rushes to respond to yet another damaging and explosive story about the president s comments made in private, this time, audiotapes revealing that President Trump understood the true threats of the pandemic all downplaying it to the American Public in weeks after that in a series of interviews with veteran washington journalist bob woodard, trump admits that the virus is deadly and highly contagious so, what was president xi saying yesterday oh, we were talking mostly about the virus and i think hes going to have it in good shape but, you know, its a very tricky situation its it goes it goes through air, bob thats always tougher than the touch. You know, the touch, you dont have to touch things, right, you just breathe the air and thats how its passed. And so to thats a very tricky one, a thats a very delicate one. Its also more deadly than your flus this is more deadly, this is 5 per you know, this is 5 versus 1 and less than 1 , you know so this is deadly stuff. All right, just weeks later, trump publicly doubted the exact same threat he just acknowledged to woodward there in public. Fatality rate of 1 . This has a fatality rate of between 3 we dont exactly. The flu is much higher than that. Later in march, the president explained to woodward why he felt the need to dismiss the danger in public i think, bob, really, to be honest with you sure, i want you to be. I wanted to i wanted to i wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down, because i dont want to create a panic. Now while trump was saying that to woodward, he was telling the public this i dont think theyre panicking. I dont think people are panicking. Last night, we did an interview on fox last night, a town hall, i think it was very good and i said, calm, you have to be calm. It will go away. Heres where we are at this hour six months later, the United States has nearly 6. 4 million cases and more than 191,000 deaths and still climbing this hour, were also monitoring Vice President mike pences speech in pennsylvania to see if hes going to address these latest allegations joining us now msnbc correspondent carol lee at the white house. And cornell belcher, formerly with the dnc committee and Obama Campaign carol, let me begin with you if i can. Lets get your take on this. What did you find the most interesting about these revelations and how do we anticipate either the president responding on what we heard earlier from the white house well, look, to me, the most stark thing in this, is the way the president the difference between the way the president was publicly talking about coronavirus early on and what he knew and how he thought about the virus privately, there were americans early on when in february and march were really looking to the president for advice on how to go about their lives and he as you just showed in all of those clips was telling a very different story than what were learning from Bob Woodwards book. Now, the white house has responded to this, White House Press secretary took a number of questions about this earlier this afternoon, she defended the president on this. Lets listen to some of what she had to say. Explain please, of course i deny that. He makes clear that he doesnt want to see chaos. The president just days after having this discussion with bob woodward said this on march 30th, he said, i do want them to stay calm. Were doing a great job, if you hook at the individual statements theyre all true, stay calm, it will go away but its important to stay calm. This president does what leaders do, good leaders, say calm and resolute at a time when you face an insurmountable challenge. So there you kayleigh mcenny defending the president. Hes saying this is go away, everyone should stay calm. Interesting this come to light, we have heard so much from the president , criticism of china and chinas handling and the w. H. O. s handling and how they misled the public and how that caused the current pandemic that were all grappling with, so you can see how you can make the case that the president was also misleading the other problem that the president faces is that this isnt over, were in the middle of this you heard the president last night in north carolina, saying go v nors should open, governors should open the states he wants schools open. How are people going to know they should listen to what the president is saying when you see early on what he was saying privately versus publicly, ayman. But, anna, what are your hearing from your sources about the mindset of the white house this afternoon, what stood out to you and more importantly, you know, what are you hearing from your sources about the fallout i think the thing thats most stunning thing about this whole thing is, 18 separate interviews bob woodward is a known commodity, like the final outcome. Trump did not like the woodwards 18th book, he decided to participate extensively in this one lot of finger pointing going on right now in terms of, you know, why was the president let to do them on capitol hill, you saw a lot of members of congress saying they hadnt read it, they didnt know enough, these are the things going to the homestretch of an election, republicans dont want to have be on the ballot the president s character, if theyre talking about the differences between the republicans and democrats on the issues they feel like they have a way towards wink, when it comes to whether the president is honest or not, thats not something they want to have to be talking about. To that point, cornell, how difficult is this for President Trump and his allies to stave off because of the fact that he did 18 interviews and there are tapes of these interviews . Well, im going to Say Something thats going to be a little bit controversial here, and ill go against the grain, you open up this show talking about, you know, a shocking story, but every week theres a shocking story, every other week is something that jolts us here. And if youre a Senate Republican or a house republican, you dont want this to be a complete referendum on the president but its turning out to be a complete referendum on the president and he keeps making it to be a referendum on the president. T look, this being a full referendum on the president , couple of months ago, i dont think we thought seriously that the senate was in jeopardy for Senate Mcconnell as it impacts the president , look, we have seen scandal after scandal, he attacks gold star families, he attacks john mccain and his service, he attacks veterans, he ignores russia sorry to jump in here, youre giving a list of good examples, doesnt it make it harder for his campaign to play offense when theyre going on defense all of the time. My point is, he doesnt need to we keep waiting for his support to completely collapse and it doesnt. This past weekend, there were boat parades for trump hes going to get that 45, 44 of supporters, if youre a trump supporter now, none of this is going to matter. Where this is matter is to house and Senate Republicans. Let me play for all of you guys that joe biden said about these revelations a short while ago. Anna, listen to this he lied to the American People he knowingly and willingly lied about the threat it posed to the country for months he had the information he knew how dangerous it was while this deadly disease ripped through our nation, he failed to do his job on purpose. It was a life and death betrayal of the American People. Anna, what are you hearing from your so sources i dont necessarily think it changes the Biden Campaign strategy when you look at what theyve been doing, theyve been trying to litigate what the president has done, a failure of leadership, how joe biden will be a return to normalcy, and this plays into another piece of the puzzle for them that they can say, look at this, this is outside the norms, vote for joe biden because hes going to be a return to normalcy this is another piece for them that their going to use, or try to use in ads certainly because, you do have the audio here and you also have the president trying to defend this in a way that shows pretty starkly what he thought privately and what he was saying publicly. Carol, you keep an eye on National Security and Foreign Policy issues for us this is from the Washington Post in the midst of reflecting upon how closely the United States had come to 2017 to war with north korea, trump revealed, i have built a nuclear a wea n weapons system that nobodys ever had in this country before. We have stuff that putin and xi have never heard about before, theres nobody, we have incredible what we know if anything about what the president revealed to bob woodward in that stunning book . Well, first, ayman, you know this because you cover National Security issues, too, its hard to overstate how unusual it is for a president to talk about a secret u. S. Weapons system, particularly nuclear, weve heard President Trump talk about Nuclear Weapons that the u. S. Has in terms of Nuclear Submarines before, but this is striking what we learned from Bob Woodwards book, he confirmed that theres a new weapons system when he approached other officials about this, they were shocked. That the president has disclosed this this is something that gives fol next the national skrt the Intelligence Community the military, a lot of heart burn when the president does Something Like this. Hes the president all right, carol lee, anna and cornell, thank you another breaking news story were following this hour a Senior Department of home land security official alleging in a whistleblower complaint that he was told to stop providing intelligence analysis on the threat of russia interference in the 2020 election in part because it, quote, made the president look bad how Intelligence Committee chairman adam schiff saying the complaint, quote, outlines grave and disturbing allegations that senior white house and department of Homeland Security officials improperly sought to politicize, manipulate and censor intelligence in order to benefit President Trump politically. Joining me now is ken delaney. Thank you. Walk us through this complaint and what it alleges. Yes, ayman, a man named ryan murphy the number two analyst, until recently these ayman, i cant stress how shocking these allegations are in the intelligence world. What mr. Murphy is sayingin a written whistle blower complaint that was released by the house Intelligence Committee, he was ordered to water down and manipulate intelligence products for the political benefit of donald trump and he outlined three specific areas one on russia election interference he was ordered by dhs secretary chad wolf in may 2020 to stop reporting on russia interference and beginning report on chinese and iranian interference the Intelligence Community has recently said that china and iran would prefer that donald trump would lose thats a narrative they want to promote and wants to sort of done play that russia wants trump to win but it goes beyond that, ayman, mr. Murphy is also accusing dhs officials of pressuring him and manipulating him around the question whether terrorists were coming across the southern border hes actually claiming that thendhs secretary kristjen nielsen. And he was ordered to water down and manipulate intelligence on the corruption in Central America that was driving refugees to flee to the United States all of these things are central to Donald Trumps world view of blocking immigration at the border and what causes immigration. This dhs unit was tasked with collecting evidence about this stuff. They were ordered to misrepresent it to help donald trump. So, condition, quickly, incredible developments there. Where does it go from here what does the house Intelligence Committee and chairman can schiff intend to do with this whistleblower encomplaint they made it public, but theres a formal whistle blower process now, there will be an investigation of these matters and we may have testimony some of these people, the house can subpoena these current and former dhs officials and get them to say under oath to say whether this happened and who above them if anyone at all ordered them to make this happen theres an allegation that the National Security adviser Robert Obrien in one case requested that intelligence be changed a lot more to learn about this story. Ken, thank you as always. Coming up next, she was blocked by Postal Service police from entering two facilities for scheduled tours. Plus a lot more on the bombshell revelations about President Trump in Bob Woodwards new book. 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Your reaction to what we heard there from the president speaking to bob woodward saying publicly what has not been said before publicly from the white house that younger people are susceptible to this virus. Well, the president whas been trying to downplay the extent of the seriousness the entire time. Now, we have it in his own words. As someone who represents florida, and as a parent of a High School Senior whos right now online in our home attending school, we didnt have to be in this situation if the president didnt intentionally downplay the seriousness and the threat of this virus, fewer people would be dead and we would have been able to manage this much earlier and kept more people healthy. Congresswoman, let me ask you quickly, youre talking about young people and schools reopening across the country, youre saying downplay, do you believe the president intentionally lied to the president about this we see bars full of people, motorcycle rallies full of young people, universities opening up a lot of that is based on the messaging come out of the white house, do you think they intentionally lied to the American Public about this. The tapes that bob woodward got during his interviews showed that the president admits to intentionally downplaying risks, he knew in february that it was more serious than the flu, that it was more infectious, yet he kept insisting that this was just like the flu and people didnt have to worry about it and, you know, even his accolades our Governor Ron Desantis have repeatedly said this isnt much of a concern for young people, now theyve been threatening of withholding funding in my state based on that to Public Schools unless they go back full time five days a week and we know that children can get the virus, they can spread the virus, they can do without symptoms and you can have our Public Schools become superspreader events on a daily basis, all because the president was protecting his political backside as opposed to making sure that we that take care of people and prevent them from die zblg another very important story. Investigating postmaster general louis dejoy. A new senate report, patients who rely on the Postal Service to get their Prescription Drugs may already have experienced significant delays in their prescriptions. Potentially jeopardizing the health of millions of americans. While the usps hasnt directly commented on the gnats investigation, the spokesman said that the agency remains, quote, fulfilling our obligation to provide consistent and Reliable Delivery service, which includes the sacred duty of delivering prescriptions you were recently barred from entering a usps facility in your home state, how concerned are you about the delays in mail deliveries as it pertains to Prescription Drugs deeply concerned. Ive been getting calls from constituents whose prescriptions have been delayed. We had the poster postmaster general dejoy admit the delays are more significant than he knew going and observing a shift in the morning, gave a days notice, never had prior notification issues with the Postal Service until this postmaster general was onboard and frankly, i wanted to go because i got photo after so many photos from postal employees showing huge mail sitting in two postal facilities still not delivered in september. So clearly theres a huge problem with Prescription Drug deliveries, with businesses not getting deliveries, i got pictures from a Business Owner today, a check they finally got from people they were wondering why they hadnt arrived, dated in july, the postmaster general has deliberately slowed down the mail if they felt the mail would be deliver in a more timely fashion with mail sorting. Its very obvious whats going on here, the president is telling his to take a machete to make a decision on who they want to be the president of the United States and if its not him, hes trying to make sure he wins anyway. Are you planning to go back to those facilities and get in them. Oh, you can count on it i will be going back to those facilities ill go back and take a look at whether they made any progress i wont be giving any more than a days notice congresswoman, thank you so much for your time we appreciate it thank you. Trials for the oxford Coronavirus Vaccine are suddenly put on hold. Well explain why, next, and what this meengs fans for the t process moving foward. Youre watching msnbc. Without breaking my back or breaking the bank. Tech when youve got. Safelite can come to you. Or breaking the bank. Tech and youll get a text when were on our way. Tech just leave your keys on the dash and well replace your windshield with safe, nocontact service. Tech schedule at safelite. 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The revelations from Bob Woodwards new book, including what the president might say to defend himself a president is expected to speak any minute now lets get you the latest facts, though, on the coronavirus pandemic as we know them at this hour a shocking story out of western pennsylvania, a 20yearold Division Ii Football player, Jamie Stephens has died from complications of the virus. New york Governor Cuomo announced today that Indoor Dining will resume on september 30th at 25 capacity Surgeon General jerome adams was on capitol hill today giving an update on the race to a vaccine but in a new interview with a cbs florida affiliate, President Trump gave his own assessment on a potential vaccine time line. Theyre doing vaccines right now, theyre very close to having the answer and i think theyll be very safe and theyll be very effective. I think well be able to do by november 1st but dr. Anthony fauci said we should expect vaccinations begin early next year. The more likely scenario is that we will know by the end of this calendar year and well be able to start vaccinations in earnest as we begin 2021 Pharmaceutical Company astrazeneca says one participants unexplained illness has put the vaccine trial on hold. Volunteers had received a diagnosis of transverse myelitis thats sparked by viral infections this morning, Scott Gottlieb said the pause could last for days or possibly weeks but it could help other researcher. Reporter i wouldnt expect the other trials to be paused. I wouldnt be surprised, though, if the regulators asked the data safety monitoring board to look through the data thats been accrued so far to look at any indication that this side effect may be appearing in other clinical trials. Suggestive of this kind of a side effect. Joining me now is the chair of the viral are Product Leadership board denn Dennis Carroll how big of it is to have a vaccine trial to be forced to pause over a potential safety issue . First off, its not unusual at all what we really take from the news thats come out is that were seeing an excellent example of the checks and balances to ensure that trials of this magnitude, 50,000 people, theres enough close monitoring to be able to pick up any signal that there may be an adverse reaction to the vaccine itself, so pausing a trial at this point, its not unusual, its more common than not. The expert panel will review and evaluate whether or not the event is in fact associated with the vaccine or quite frankly it could be totally unrelated, so this is a good example of how a vaccine trial needs to run to ensure that ultimately the vaccine thats made available is safe how long of a delay do you anticipate this pause could possibly take . Again, it could be days or weeks, the first thing that evaluators need to do is to pinpoint what triggered this particular event and to what extent to all associated with the vaccine and if its associated with the vaccine, you know what aspect of the vaccine are they talking about so they need to do a careful evaluation, it could be rapid. They may find no correlation between the vaccination of this particular individual and the experiences that they may be having or they begin to identify some causal relation, then is i significant or easily managed . Can you explain to our viewers to a moment unfamiliar with the process, where do you draw the line between competition and cooperation in this as we said, obviously the information from this could be very beneficial to other researchers but where do pharmaceutical Companies Share this information or do they keep it private to themselves to improve their chances of being the first to develop a vaccine well, whats important to recognize is that the particular vaccine that were talking about is one of only three others that are using the same model for trying to induce the immune response there are several other approaches which are being taken, so these are not these are more apples than oranges, if you will, looking to trigger an immune response. The vaccine is trying to use a vector delivering system, using a virus thats of inconsequence to the human body, to be able to bring into our system a critical component of the covid19 virus, that triggers the infection. 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We continue to monitor the white house for new comments about the allegations in Bob Woodwards book, President Trump is expected to start speaking any minute now we do want to now to go to another story, breaking news out west, where firefighters are battling massive wildfires across several states. In california there, a 2,000 increase in the amount of acres burned year to date over this time last year the state is seeing 3 of the 4 largest fires in its history joining me now from azusa, california, is Steve Patterson jacob ward is live for us in phoenix, oregon. Steve, lets start with you. Give us the latest on the ground there. Reporter were at the base of bobcat fire, you can see the National Forest and the ridgeline behind me. Up ahead theres thick smoke, this orange ominous sky, the skys darker than they normally appear back on me, you can see the aftermath of this. The ash thats covering everything its literally snowing ash one community dealing with its own fire that fire now 11,000 acres they got it mostly contained in the foothills. Evacuation warnings in this area including the community that im standing in now, but you can apply this to several of the major fires burning across this region fire officials worried that these extra heavy winds will sweep in and blow up some of these majors fires are already spreading so fast. 2. 3 million acres have burned in the state so far thats a state record. Were not to the worst part of the season which is usually ushered in by the santa ana winds. Were starting to see the same sort of patterns in the earlier season u more winds, across the entire western region, there are about 39 Million People under red flag warnings. We got my colleague in phoenix, oregon, jacob ward reporter steve, youre absolutely correct were seeing these conditions that we associate typically with southern california, not northern california, moving their way north. When we arrived here in oregon last night, we had no idea that this incredible wind would be here when we got here initially we just thought that this was a small amount of damage, coming down here today, we could see how fast this fire moved through here, popping windows, melting car tires, running little rivers of aluminum into the streets, as people did everything they could to get out of here as fast as we could. We walked earlier the entire length of this neighborhood, the whole thing is burnt so how fast and how devastating this fire was is what has officials so concerned about oregons future, ayman. All right, jacob ward, Steve Patterson, thank you both for keeping an eye on those developments for us. 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President trump just walked out at the white house there amid the latest firestorm about his comments in private, well monitor this for you as we continue to dig deeper into what Bob Woodwards new book has to say, this time were learning new details about the troubling relationship between President Trump and north Korean Leader kim jongun. What the president himself has described love letters between the two leaders, according to the book, the president claimed that kim jongun told him quote, everything, even detailing the murder of his own uncle in graphic detail joining e now is courtney kubie who covers matters relating to the pentagon put this in context for us, what do we know about how National Security officials view their relationship between kim jongun and President Trump . So, its sort of doublesided on the one hand, President Trump engaging in this discourse with kim jongun, a loft National Security officials thought the u. S. Was about to go to war with north korea. This engagement has staved that off, for the time being, anyway. North koreas not been theyve been in a Production Phase these past several years while this diplomacy has gone on at the end of the day, it may just be kicking the can down the road, the fact theyve been talking, because the underlying problem still exists at the same time, President Trump engaging in the diplomacy with time, President Trump engaging with kju has brought the north Korean Leader something he has always wanted that is world recognition on a world stage standing next to a world leader. Courtney, thank you, as always. The new book by bob woodward reveals the deep disconnect between President Trump and officials at the pentagon. Joining us now to discuss this, richard hosta, president on foreign relations, former state department of policy planning and former special assistant to president george h. W. Bush great to have you with us, as always lets talk about the National Security threats that arise as a result of the president making these offhand remarks to such sensitive matter, including that we have a Nuclear System that no one has ever seen, including our adversaries. I think it became a target for the intelligence effort of other countries, ayman i dont know about it. I dont know if the chinese or russians knew about it i suspect that north koreans passed on that information and i have no idea what theyve learned ever since. We all know about it now, given the fact that he told reporters who told bob woodward about it we learned from this book that former director of National Intelligence, dan coates could not shake his, quote, deep suspicions that russian president Vladimir Putin had something on President Trump, seeing no other explanation for the president s behavior toward russia detail what likely went into coates assessment on that. Again, i dont know what the former director of National Intelligence thought this is a topic that, shall we say, obsess people in washington now for 3 1 2 years, trying to come up with an explanation of why this president persistently, time and time and time again, has stood by mr. Putin and has been closer to him in some ways than American Allies and not challenged him on interference of our election. I dont know what influence mr. Putin has. I just know that the president has been pursuing a line of policy that i would argue is not in the National Interest of the United States. Let talk about another foreign polished this is something that the president , we understand, is making it more official. That is planning to announce he will withdraw more u. S. Troops from iraq. Im old enough to remember several withdrawals and being final withdrawals of u. S. Troops from iraq. This, though, comes as the white house has gradually severed the diplomatic ties that existed with iran, instead treating iran as a clear adversary whats driving the president s Decision Making here, on one hand saying iran is a threat but at the same time saying reducing our military presence in iraq . I find it a little hard to square the circle, as you suggest. Theres two reasons to have forces in iraq one is terrorism submission. We made progress there, but it hasnt disappeared iranian influence in iraq, we dont want iran to be unimpeded throughout the region. Now if we built up so sorry to interrupt you the president is taking questions. We do want to take a listen to what hes saying about developments today. Im a cheerleader for this country. I love this country. I dont want people to be frightened i dont want to create panic, as you say and, certainly, im not going to drive this country or the world into a frenzy. We want to Show Confidence we want to show strength we want to show strength as a nation and thats what ive done. Weve done very well weve done well from many standards. You look at our numbers compared to other countries, other parts of the world, its been an amazing job that weve done. I think its very sad in many respects because the incredible individuals work iing so hard on it, including our Vice President , theyve done this great job. They havent been acknowledged by the news media, and they should, for the job weve done whether its ventilators and now youll see very soon with vaccines and therapeutics, the job weve done has been incredible but we dont want to instill panic. We dont want to jump up and down and say we have a problem and scare everybody. We started buying masks and gowns and everything else. And we dont want to cause pricing to go up to a level that becomes almost unaffordable. In that sense so in that sense i agree with it. Yeah,please. How do you assure the American PublicGoing Forward that they can trust what youre saying i think thats really a big part of trust. We have to have leadership we have to show leadership the last thing you want to do is create a panic in the country. This was a horrible thing. It was sent to us by china should not have happened should never have happened this is a gusting, terrible situation that was hoisted upon us, and we have to show we just dont want to use the best word is panic we dont want to show panic. Were not going to show panic. Thats exactly what i did. I was very open, whether it was to woodward or anybody else. Its just another political hit job. Whether its woodward or anybody else, you cannot show a sense of panic or youre going to have bigger problems than you ever had before please respectfully, sir, more than trying to reduce panic. Please. Its more deadly. Excuse me go ahead, please. Mr. President , dont you think if you were more forthright that american lives could have been saved . Do you take any responsibility for the 200,000 deaths we had . If we didnt do what we did, we would have had millions of people die we closed it up quickly, effectively. We did a job we learned about this horrible disease along with the rest of the world, which had to learn about it and then we opened it up and now we know the vulnerable we know who it attacks, who it is so vicious against. And i think weve done, from every standpoint, an incredible job. We shouldnt have lost anybody nobody should have lost. China released something that they shouldnt have been allowed to they should not have released it came out of china it went to europe t went all over the world should have never happened they could have stopped it they stopped it from going into the remainder of china it started in wuhan and they stopped it but they didnt stop it from coming to our country. Now we had to show calm. We had to show, you know, if it was up to you or whoever i have no idea what he said in the book again, its a book i gave him some quotes and, frankly, well see how the book turned out. I have no idea youre asking me questions for the first time but again, the last thing we can show is panic, or excitement, or fear, or anything else we had to take care of the situation we were given. Now, long before anybody else wanted to do it, i closed our borders to a very heavily infected china if i didnt do that, we would have had hundreds of thousands more people die. Dr. Fauci said it. Many people said it. It was a great decision. It was a decision i made and i had to make. It was a decision that a lot of people thought i was wrong nancy pelosi said i was wrong. Joe biden said i was wrong they all came back and they said it was the right decision. And i was way early. That was in january. The end of january, i did that so, that was a very good thing we did otherwise, we would have had hundreds of thousands more but if we didnt close the country, we would have been talking about millions of people instead of the numbers that we have right now. Sir, is there anything else you can you mentioned that you were trying to avoid price gouging, but you mentioned to bob woodward that you recognized as this virus spread on february 7th, you didnt use the federal act until march, you didnt you didnt really think it was going to be to the point where it was all of a sudden the world was infected, the entire world was infected everyone was scrambling around, looking where to buy face masks and all the other things weve opened up factories. Weve had tremendous success with facemasks and shields and the ventilators. Were now supplying the rest of the world. We have all the ventilators we can use. Remember this, the ventilators were very important. Not one person that needed a ventilator didnt get it and these are very complex, expensive machines to make we opened up something that hadnt been done since the Second World War we honestly have done an incredible job but we dont want to run around, screaming, shouting, oh, look at this look at this we have to show leadership and leadership is all about confidence, and confidence is confidence in our country. And our people have been great weve been put through a lot by china, by releasing this, by having this come here, we were put to a lot they could have done something about it, and they chose not to. I am very honored to have presented to you today a list of 20 incredible people, and we will talk later. Im sure well be meeting later in the day thank you very much. So that was President Trump wrapping up impromptu questions there taken by the press corps after announcing some potential Supreme Court nominees thanks to richard haas for sticking around. Apologize for interrupting you earlier. Deadline white house with Nicolle Wallace starts right now. Hi, everyone. Its 4 00 in new york. How many people died because they believed Donald Trumps lies on coronavirus . Thats the question looming over donald trump, who you saw right there dealing with it at the white house today in the wake of bombshell new revelations, including lordy, hes got tapes, of the president admitting as early as the beginning of february that he knew coronavirus would become devastating. Here is just one of the recordings obtained by the Washington Post from bob woodward for his new book