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Serious things that the american public, unfortunately, is going to have to get used to seeing. What were doing with the mitigation is try and blunt that, but no matter what we do, even with the i believe positive effects that were seeing with the mitigation, its going to be a tough couple of weeks coming up. The projections come as federal Health Experts consider recommending that everybody wear masks in public to help stop people who may not know they are infected from spreading the virus. This comes as the surgeon general, dr. Jerome adams says social distancing could remain in place past the end of this month. What weve always said is that everyone is on a different place on their curve. Some places arent going to hit their peak until after 30 day, and theyre going to need to continue social distancing. Other places that leaned in early may be able to relax involvement of the recommendations earlier. Meantime, the irs and the Treasury Department both say americans can start receiving pandemic relief payments in the next three weeks. A lot of questions about those payments. Im getting a lot of them from you. Id like to continue to because ben popkin and i are going to continue to answer them. You can tweet us and use velshi. Thats the way we can sort out youre trying to get an answer to a check as opposed to just sending me a regular insult on twitter. The end of the show and every day well answer your questions. Lets start with this florida stayathome order. Nbcs Kerry Sanders is with us in ft. Lauderdale. Kerry, everything in florida has been slower to come an everyone else. They were slower to shut down beaches, slower to recommend social distancing. They have not dealt with this issue of use ships which i can see one behind you. Now finally theyre issuing a stayathome order. Reporter very slow, off the mark. A lot of criticism from around the country to the Florida Governor ron desantis. Matter of fact, he issued his order about 90 minutes before a judge in the state capital in tallahassee was having a hearing with lawyers who filed a suit to try to bring about a statewide mandate for stayathome. Those lawyers saying he believes this was the governors response to their lawsuit. The details, well, as you noted, theres going to be a stayathome order for 30 days. It will go into effect beginning thursday at midnight. The beaches will be impacted. In much of the state there are still areas where the beaches are wide open. New smyrna, daytona, along the panhandle. This stayathome order will have an impact on that. You noted we have the cruise ships behind me. Were at port everglades. If you look at airports, you can see planes stacked up. These ships are empty. The two ships headed here, the rotterdam and the zaandam, 2,500 crew and passengers on board, four dead, nine positive tests for covid19 and about 200 that the cruise line says theyre treating as if they have coronavirus with their flulike symptoms. That brings us now to what the coast guard has issued in a memorandum. Its a maritime memorandum. Were going to put it up on the screen here. Its not overly complicated. Its just dense language. Let me read it slowly. To ensure the safety of persons on board and mitigate the potential of overwhelming local medical resources, all vessels operating within the seventh district aor, area of responsibility, with more than 50 persons on board should increase their medical capabilities, personnel and equipment in order to care for individuals with ilis that means people exhibiting signs of an illness for an indefinite period of time. This is necessary as shoreside medical facilities may reach full capacity and lose the ability to accept and effectively treat additional critically ill patients. What that goes to is telling the cruise lines for the ships that are still at sea, it is going to be their responsibility to get doctors, nurses, onto the ships to treat them rather than what Governor Ron Desantis has been saying all along, having the ships come in here, have people come off and potentially overwhelm the medical system here, overwhelming it before floridas numbers climb to a critical state. One other piece in that memorandum from the coast guard specifically talks about vessels flagtd in the bahamas. Vessels that are flagged in the bahamas are being told they have to go to the bahamas. Its a pretty small country really. The Hospital System would be overwhelmed, but they have to go there because thats where theyre flagged even if theyre u. S. Ships. Ali, a lot of changes coming as were speaking and a lot of concern on board these ships. People say were stuck on these ships. We feel like were surrounded by coronavirus. Those that are ill want to get medical care. Theres about 300 american passengers on board. All the others are from other countries, australia, germany, the netherlands. They want to go home. The only way to do that is get off and go through ft. Lauderdale to make their way out. Ali. What a remarkable story. None of the u. S. Cruise lines have their ships flagged in the United States. Theyre all flagged in the bahamas, panama and liberia. All of a sudden, thats not working for them. Yet another thing that might change in the post coronavirus age. Kerry sanders from ft. Lauderdale. Lawmakers on capitol hill are discussing the possibility of establishing a panel to scrutinize the white house response to coronavirus similar to the commission that investigated the 9 11 attacks. This morning the chairman of the house intelligence committee, california congressman adam schiff confirmed that these efforts are under way. He tweeted in part, quote, we need a nonpartisan commission to review our response and how we can better prepare for the next pandemic. Joining me is nbcs Geoff Bennett who joins us live from the white house lawn. Geoff, theres really been a lack of clarity from the president because theyre his own comments and own tweets well until the 12th of march where he was not taking this seriously, and then theres this new thing thats been floating for the last couple days. The president mentioned it in his press conference yesterday, that the impeachment distracted him from this, although the impeachment was over by early february. Its not making a lot of sense which is causing people to say we need to look into why the response has been so delayed. Reporter youre right about that. Thats precisely why adam schiff says this commission is so necessary. The reporting of our colleagues Courtney Kube and Leigh Ann Caldwell who reported this first for us at nbc says this is still early days. Schiff has made clear this commission, this legislation hes drafting that would set up such a commission wouldnt happen until congress deals with the task at hand. That is drafting and ultimately passing at least one more Economic Relief package related to the coronavirus outbreak. He also says, and its entirely possible this commission wouldnt be set up until after the election if, in fact, thats how long it takes the country to get through this, what is now a cascading coronavirus crisis. But, yes, to your point, in that tweet he said after pearl harbor and 9 11 we looked at what went wrong to learn from our mistakes. Congressman schiff is saying they want to figure out what the administration overlooked so they have a plan in place, not just this administration, but any subsequent administration would have a plan in place to know how to deal with it better, ali. Geoff, yesterday the president warned america, and i want to point out the bottom right of the screen. You can see the dow, almost the tenth biggest number. Seems to be a reaction to a statement the president made yesterday that the next two weeks would be unusually rough. Even the tone of his press conference was different yesterday. He now seems to be treating this like someone who believes this is a serious matter thats going to kill lots of americans. Youre right about that. Think about it. February 26th, President Trump said this is a flu, this is a flu. Just yesterday in the briefing room, he said its not a flu, this is vicious. Well, the virus hasnt changed. But certainly his rhetoric has changed. Im not one who puts a lot of stock in the president s tone and rhetoric. Even his allies have said dont pay so much attention to what President Trump says, pay more attention to what he does. Even though his rhetoric might have shifted, there are still real questions about the response. Youve seen the president trying to push more authority, more responsibility to the states, to the governors to really care for their own citizens, but the governors have said, some of them anyway, democrat and republican, there needs to be a more coordinate dollar, more forceful national response. They can no longer deal with this patchwork approach where you have states trying to outbid each other for things like ventilators. You heard andrew cuomo say yesterday its much like being on ebay, trying to bit with a state. The governor of connecticut spoke to our chris hayes yesterday and described a hodgepodge system where they put out purchase orders for things, and they believe a truck is on the road, a plane is on the tarmac. By the time they get to the warehouse, they realize there was never a shipment that was ever delivered. This is the kind of thing, the real logjam. This is beyond any normal bureaucratic bottleneck issue. Its a real issue the administration has to identify and solve. Here we are nine weeks, ten weeks after the first case of coronavirus was discovered here in this country. Geoff, youve been doing yeomans work reporting on this. Its not easy. Thank you, sir. Geoff bennett at the white house. The white house did reveal a sobering death toll projection for the coming weeks, saying between 100,000 and 240,000 americans could die by mid june as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. They showed a slide actually which is a nice development, but its a terrible slide when you look at it. This projection takes into account the strict mitigation measures that are in place or likely to be in place over the next 30 days such as stayathome orders that are already in effect across various states. Joining me is dr. Grad, serves as the assistant professor of immunology and Infectious Diseases at harvard university. Dr. Grad, thank you for being with us. Dr. Fauci was asked by a reporter several times, a reporter like me without medical knowledge trying to understand that 140,000 to 240,000 includes mitigation measures. Thats actually the projection that, if we do all the right things, that many people may still die in america. I believe thats right. I think those numbers are not unreasonable. Without those mitigation measures, you could see the numbers much higher. In the figure we saw a projection of no mitigation efforts and then what we see is the flattening of the peak that we heard so much about or flattening of the curve with the mitigation efforts. I think an important point to make is this curve is intended to represent the pandemic in the United States as a whole. But the epidemic is local or even hyper local with different times of introduction and extent of spread in communities where the patchwork responses that weve been hearing about really influence the shape of that curve. So the extent and duration of the interventions, the mitigation efforts will really influence the shape of that curve and the number of people we see at risk. Im going to ask the control room to put that curve back up. I think its important to discuss. Its a national curve. But, in fact, the way we experience it is not national at all. In a place like new york, were up against that capacity. We know that. We know if you call 911, you may have to hold. We know there are police and First Responders that are off. We know there are hospitals that have shortages, but there are some parts of the United States where Health Care Capacity is ample. Theres not just the flattening of the curve, but this isnt one america. This is many americas when it comes to this infection. Thats right. And we know that the instruction the epidemic has been introduced into different commune stays at different times. The first case is being identified in seattle where theyve had quite aggressive measures to try to mitigate the spread and appear from recent projections to be successful in flattening the curve. Other places, like we were just hearing, in florida, where the efforts seem quite delays, and we may see a very different kind of experience. So these patchwork responses i think will also be important as we look across the country as a whole, what the numbers will end up looking like. Let me ask you, for people like you who study the spread of infectio infectious disease, all the numbers and all the data is important. That concept of without any mitigation, 2. 2 Million People could have died, and there was a study from Imperial College that stated that. That was out in mid march even though the president said he didnt see it before sunday. In real life, the idea of zero mitigation doesnt exist, right . Thats like a firefighter saying the building would have burned down if i didnt turn on the hose. There was always going to be some mitigation, so what is a figure like that useful for . Its helpful to understand what the worst Case Scenario might be. But then theres the question of how successful are our mitigation efforts. They may extend from all the different kinds of responses that weve seen, closing schools, closing bars and restaurants, encouraging people to stay at home or enforcing those kinds of measures to what we saw in china, a very aggressive measure to keep people at home, identify cases, trace contacts and then to use quarantine and isolation to try to really tamp down any continued spread. So there are measures we anticipate will be successful and helpful in slowing the spread. This gives us a sense of what the worst Case Scenario might be and then we have a wide range of potential impacts from the various interventions people are putting in place. Those different interventions go ahead. Finish your thought. Im sorry about that. Its okay. I was going to say, as we start to think about emerging from the lockdown that were in, in fact, the fragmented responses can be quite valuable. Theyre natural experiments where we can see which type of intervention was successful and to what extent. Perhaps that can help guide us and give us a playbook we dont have right now as we think how to emerge from the current lockdown. Thats exactly why this is really relevant and really important, because setting a date for us all in the country to emerge from this may not be logical. It may be there are many different dates depending on where you are and what antibodies people have and how the mitigation has worked. Thats why this conversation has been so important. Dr. Grad, thank you for joining us. The dow is now bouncing in and out of a level that is actually going to make it into likely to make it into one of the top ten biggest drops that weve seen in the history of the dow. Its out of it snou. Bouncing in and around there. Ill keep you posted. We have positive news, and its from italy. It could bring some hope to americans sheltering at home. After more than three weeks of strict lockdown, the head of the countrys institute of health says the virus has reached its plateau and could soon decline. The World Health Organization claims there has been a decrease in the number of daily cases reported over the last week, Officials Say they are seeing fewer new cases. So far italy has more than 110,000 cases, 13,155 people have died. The mortality rate in italy is unusually high. Its important to note that nearly 17,000 people have recovered. Nbcs matt bradley joins me now with the latest developments from rome where hes been for some time. Matt, italy, were hoping, may be too early to tell, seems to be turning the corner. Thats always the danger, right . People see the plateauing and stop the mitigation. How are officials responding to this may be a plateau. Reporter we heard from the Prime Minister of italy, he said what we expected. Theyll continue this nationwide lock down until april 13, the day after easter. This is a very important holiday. The vatican isnt that far from where im standing right now. Hes going to wait for the experts. I wouldnt be surprised if he extended it. He did say he expects theyre going to have to talk to experts and decide what to do then. Lets remember that even though it seems to be plateauing. The head of the National Institute of health said that, that all these other countries are ramping up. Were seeing in asia that the real threat there is a secondary threat of infection, a kind of echo. Thats what italians dont want to see. Ali, this country has sacrificed so much. Theyre not going to lift the lockdown and allow another wave of infections to come in or a latent wave thats been resting here to spread once again and kill off everybody who is remaining. That would be impossible. They understand very well, and thats what the Prime Minister said tonight, we cant turn or back on the progress weve already made, ali. Matt, what happens when we get out of the mandatory lockdown. Italy had problems in the beginning, particularly with a young population, a hard society to lock down. Its like america. How are you thinking people are going to handle that . This is a very westernized society, of course. Its just like america, very individualistic. Its not like a country in asia, like in china, where the government can easily and is quite capable of intervening into the private lives of its citizens. Were going to have to see them slowly, gradually easing up. One of the big problems here, ali, and one of the problems well see in the United States is that some parts of the country are carrying the virus burden. The north. Thats the rich part of the country. The parts in the south, they havent seen the disease in any real serious way. Theyve seen a spike in infections, some deaths. They have a much weaker Health System and a lot of poverty. Those people down there are already seeing rumblings. Very resentful of the fact that theyre going to be out of jobs. They were already in dire economic straits. Now theyll be lifting the burden for the entire country without having to see the fact that there was a viral infection running rampant through their communities. Theyre going to be wondering, is the government, is the state going to be 12e7ing in to help us . Thats whats going to happen in the next month as the country decides whether or not to extend the lockdown. A lot of people are going to say we cant afford to do that, we or carrying the weight for the north of the country where this outbreak actually was. Ali. Matthew, thank you for your reporting from italy. Matt bradley in rome. This afternoon the president took to twitter to share his thoughts on how to help restaurants bounce back. Stephanie ruhle joins me next. Nchts plus President Trump will not reopen the obama care exchanges for newly uninsured americans. What does that mean if you just lost your job or rethinking your decision to go without insurance during a pandemic . Weve got the answers. Youre watching msnbc. Youre watching msnbc. And theyre counting on your takeout and delivery orders to make it through. Grubhub. Together we can help save the restaurants we love. Tthe bad news . Our so will this recital. Day. Depend® fitflex underwear offers your best comfort and protection guaranteed. Because, perfect or not, lifes better when youre in it. Be there with depend®. Trust us. Us kids are ready to take things into our own hands. Dont think so . Hold my pouch. You try to stay ahead of the mess. But scrubbing still takes time. Now theres new powerwash dish spray. Its the faster way to clean as you go. Just spray, wipe and rinse. It cleans grease five times faster. New dawn powerwash. Spray, wipe, rinse. President trump has been floating the idea he claims could save restaurants hard hit by the coronavirus outbreak. He tweeted it out. He said Congress Must pass the old and strongly proven deductibility by businesses on restaurants and entertainment. Move quickly, he say, and they will all be saved. Sales were down 47 in the first three months of march according to a National Restaurant Association Survey which would, of course, make sense. In so much of the country restaurants are closed. Theyve lost 25 billion. My partner, nbc Senior Business correspondent Stephanie Ruhle joins me now. This was a change that was made in the last round of tax cuts in that businesses used to be able to deduct meals and entertainment, a certain percentage of it. That went away. Donald trump says if you put that deduction back in, companies will load up the restaurants once they open again and it will undo this problem, undo the damage. Okay, ali. This is absolute nonsense. The president took his first swing at this sunday night in his press conference, and he brings it up again. What hes talking about specifically is companies, Corporate America, that used to have big fat expense account dinners with towers of raw bars and waiters showering truffles all over the dinner table. Were talking about dinners where the bills were 10,000 and up. Companies havent stopped doing that because they can no longer deduct it. Theyve stopped doing it, ali, because its certainly not modern business. I assure you, you are not seeing Corporate America or the Restaurant Industry at large begging congress or the president to change this. Its absolute the only businesses who would want it would be steakhouses from the 80s, gordon gekko and strip clubs that have buffets. I spent 14 years of my life in investment banking. I know exactly what these dinners are. They dont happen today, not because of a tax reason. They dont happen because its not the way smart forward thinking business exists. Truly it speaks to the president s sensibility that he would float this out. What is a reasonable solution . Because the fact is that it is one industry, the hospitality industry, the Restaurant Industry is one that has taken a hard hit. That does end up trickling down to workers that earn hourly wages, tips and sometimes minimum wages and sometimes less than that. Its not just them. Think about the trickle down. Think about the linens, the farmers, the wine suppliers, the fishermen. Think about all of those sans layer businesses that are going to get hurt. The Restaurant Industry isnt going to come back in two months or even three months. Lets say we all start up again. When we start up again, social distancing will be in place. Youre not going to have bars and restaurants packed. Iffest raunts are under 60 capacity where they need to be when they take out tables so they can adhere to the sixfoot rule or the fourfoot rule, youre going to see this Time Next Year. I spoke to tom colicchio. He said this Time Next Year you could see 50 of businesses wiped out. We know the Unemployment Benefits that have been extended are very generous. A lot of former restaurant employees are applying and getting on unemployment. What were going to have to see more and more of is leniency from landlords. I know a lot of landlords are Small Businesses themselves, but if they dont figure out a way to kind of play ball here and give their restaurants a break, theyre going to end up with empty storefronts one year from now. A bigger issue is big restaurant companies. Restaurants that own 20, 30 restaurants, theyre going to look at this. Theyre going to analyze their restaurants and say, you know what . Were probably only going to reopen 15 instead of 20. Thats a big issue. What the president is talking about would im pablt. 00001 of restaurants in new york, l. A. And maybe one in chicago. Steph, i believe youre doing something on social media later today where youre taking questions from people. Am i right . I am actually. Im taking over nbc News Facebook page, doing a q a, talking about the economic gettg benefits, whether its food stamps, affordable housing, unemployment or talking about ppp which is the Small Business loan that can be 100 forgiven for any company out there that can hold all their employees. Thats tonight at 7 00 p. M. Maybe ill see you on facebook. Look forward to it. Can i ask you, what do you think about the president s tweet, ali . The First Impression i had, there are lots of things that need to be done. The idea of a tax cut is the first thing that comes to Donald Trumps mind. Thats the world in which he lives. Its not inherently the worst idea. Its just that thats how he thinks, he thinks the tax cuts will solve problems. This is a Health Crisis, solve the Health Crisis and the rest will follow. Good to see you. Well see you on facebook. See yeah. Nbc news the white house does not have a plan for a special open Enrollment Period for obamacare. 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For a lot of people who had Health Coverage through work, they can get cobra. If its considered a life changing event, you can shop on the exchange, you can go under what we think of as obamacare. The idea of opening enrollment again is for people who werent otherwise insured. Thats right. If you have lost your job or youve had another change in circumstance in your life, and i think a pandemic personally should qualify as a change in circumstance, youre absolutely eligible to go get covered. It makes a lot of sense to do so. Youre right. There are a lot of people who are lower income, middle income, theyre younger. Maybe they work in the gig economy, and they never really lost anything because their jobs were kind of gig jobs anyway. Those people all of a sudden faced medical expenses potentially that they wont be able to afford, and they can get covered very cheaply if theyre offered it on the exchange. I personally dont understand why an elected leader of ours wouldnt do every possible thing for every single american to make sure that didnt happen to them. I just dont understand. Andy, this is a layup. This isnt redesigning the system. This isnt creating medicare for all, whether you like the idea or not. I like the idea of Single Payer Health care. Thats not what this is. This is saying theres open enrollment later. We can have the open enrollment now because lots of mayors cans are desperate or very worried about going bankrupt, which only happens in america because of the cost of health care. Im trying not to be hard of trump during this Pandemic Response unnecessarily, but i do think he needs to be held accountable for putting politics, prejudice, bias, whatever you want to call it, in front of things that can really solve problems for people. Be sure he will spend more money bailing out hospitals, bailing out people when people cant pay their bills than he would by simply doing this. This is something that costs the taxpayers absolutely nothing or very little, in the case of some small subsidies. Instead of doing that because he doesnt like to do anything associated with the Affordable Care act i assume, hes going to end up asking for more and more, bigger and bigger bailouts. That is the kind of thing that we should not be going on in a moment like this. In case he or someone around him is listening, call it whatever you want, rename it. But open enrollment so people can get Health Coverage in these desperate times. Former acting administrator of the centers for medicaid and medicare service, andy slavitt. Still a lot of concern about how to get rebate checks. Now a group of senators is putting pressure on the irs to send them directly to seniors. If you have questions, tweet us and use velshi. 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The irs says people who werent required to file taxes in the past two years including Senior Citizens and Social Security recipients will have to file basic tax returns showing filing status, number of dependents and banking information. A group of senators says that goes against the language of the law which says the Social Security can use 1099s to determine eligibility and make payments. They asked the irs to rescind or clarify guidance and send out the payments without requiring seniors to file a tax return. Once the irs responds, were going to get that information to you. In the meantime, youve been sending us a lot of questions about these payments. Ben popken and i have been searching for answers. This one has changed a little bit. I was under the impression that if you received payments of any sort, of the three Social Security sorts you would get a payment without having to file a simple tax return. Has that changed . There hasnt been a change, ali. This has been a big source of confusion for a lot of our readers. I think the irs in putting out some guidance may have been a little bit less clear than it could have been. From what weve been digging into, the irs will still be using the ssa 1099 information from those who are on Social Security or earn benefits in order to send checks out. What they were saying in the new guidance was that some seniors may have to file or should file a simple tax return in order to give the information the irs needs to file them and send their checks. What should you do just take this question that we got. A senior on Social Security with a small pension, its unclear if an income tax form needs to be filed. News reports have been confusing. The info on the irs site is no help. Can you clarify . Should sue, who has tweeted us, out of safety file a simple return, or do you think the irs is going to clear this up . Based on the guidance and information and as the bill was written, the irs will be able to use the information from the ssa 10 1099. Sue can probably sit back andry lax. If she has extra time, there is no harm unless it exposes her to having to leave the house or break quarantine to file that simple tax return. Thats one of the things those senators are concerned about, that additional hardship for people as were trying to keep them indoors. Ive got a question from page who says i receive ssi as my only income. I dont have a w2 or ssa 1099 with which to file 2019 taxes. Can i still file and am i eligible for the 1200 tax rebate, and will receiving the rebate affect my ssi payment . So paige, you are eligible. If youre only on supplemental security income which is different than Social Security, you are urged to file a 2019 1040 simple tax form asap and report any other income except for your supplemental security income which is not taxable. The stimulus check will not impact your ssi payments. Ben, a question from andrew, something i cant find anywhere about stimulus payments. If stayathome parents will receive one. It says married couples making less than 150,000 will get 2400. Will both parents receive it or will just the one who works get 1200 . Married couples here filing jointly making below the income threshold will receive a is stimulus check. Whether or not youre employed does not affect it if youre filing jointly. Youre good, andrew. Ben, thank you. We have hundreds of these questions. Were going to keep trying to go through them. If you have questions about your relief check, send them to us on fwiter, at bpopken and alivelshi. Only weeks ago the president was saying the coronavirus will just disappear. Now hes telling the country to appear for many more deaths and tough times ahead and claiming some people told him to ride out the virus like a cowboy. Youre watching msnbc. And me. 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Whew call unitedhealthcare today and ask for this free decision guide. For months the president down played the impending the devastating impact of the coronavirus and now hes changing his tone. We had a lot of people were saying, maybe we shouldnt do anything. Just ride it. They say ride it like a cowboy. Just ride it right there. Thats where the 2. 2 Million People come in. Would have died, maybe, it could have been 1. 6 million to 2. 2 million and thats not acceptable. Ride like a cowboy is yet another the term that id have to say on air during my career. Theres no medical expert that told the president to ride it like a cowboy. The president himself continually brushed off the threat of coronavirus. Person coming in from china and we have it under control. Its going to be just fine. How concerned are you in. Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from china. Were finding little problem. Very little problem now, you treat this like a flu, when you have 15 people and 15 within a couple of days is going to bo down close to zero. Its going to disappear one day its like a miracle it will be disappear. Some will have it at a light level that wont even go to hospital. There are many people like that. That wasnt even a month ago the tone is very different generally speaking the president s taking it much more seriously, they told me ride to ride it out. There was nobody who said that. There was some rightwing media people who were saying this is flu, a plot to undermine the president and it shouldnt be taking personally but no real medical person gave that advice. Not medical people. He was getting advice from business and economists. A couple weeks ago he was getting a lot of pressure from ceos and economists saying its not worth to shut down the economy to save a few thousands lives, the Economic Cost is not worth the human cost, but of course as public Health Experts got to him the following week and you know, we have seen over the past week, he expanded these guidelines, i will say about that briefing and when we talk at the president s tone, the certainly most somber i have seen him in my 3 1 2 years here almost, probably dozens of oval office gaggles and white house impromptu press conferences and when he talked to reporters on air force one. That was an incredibly somber moment for him, we could feel the seriousness and the gravity dr. Birx presenting these numbers, you know, this sort of american losses over the coming weeks. Day before in the rose garden it was almost like an infomercial. The ceo of mypillow was there. It was just a complete 180 in reverse of tone that we have seen. I can only imagine what were going to see again today at 5 00 p. M. , will it that be serious somber commander in chief leading the country through a crisis or combative trump whos there to getted a lags and praise and to spar with reporters. Well see this a couple of hours. Shannon, the president also suggested impeachment may have distracted him from paying as much attention. The impeachment was concluded on february 5th. It was long after that, well into march, probably march 12 before the president started taking this seriously. This has been a talking point ive been hearing for a couple days now, i heard from people close to the campaign, this talking point that the democrats had everyone in the white house so distracted in the white house on impeachment because they couldnt focus on coronavirus. As you laid out, impeachment concluded february 5th and the days a of that the president was really focused on purging his administration of his adversaries, we saw firing of people connected to the impeachment inquiry and then he was off on the campaign trail. The white house was quickly gearing into campaign mode, bringing mark meadows in to lead a Campaign White house. I dont think that argument and talking point is going to pick up much traction. Shannon, thank you for your great reporting were in final minutes of trading, thankfully, we may not make it into the record books. The market is were only down 930 points. 4. 25 . It does look in the last 20 minutes or so, markets have decided to go up. Top ten dow point drops in all of history. Eight of the top ten have all happened in the last month. All right, that wraps up for the hour for me. By the way, i show it these records, lets take a look at what the year to date on the dow. 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