How they will be making moves against the right wing representation there. Good day. Were going to start with new reaction from omarosa about the explosive claims making where the president uses the n word. Here is what he told my colleague in an exclusive interview on Meet The Press. After i closed book, i had an opportunity to go out in los angeles and sit down with the person who actually has a copy of the tape. I heard his voice as clear as you i are sitting here. You have heard the tape . I have heard the tape. Since publication of this book . Yes. When he talks this way, it confirm hes truly a racist. Omarosa talking about timing
then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation. Its very, very important, i think, you understand theres some serious legal issues that have been violated. As youre open to some legal action that we hope, i think, we can control right . So with that, if you would stay here with these general me, theyll lay this out. Can i ask you a couple of questions . Is the president aware of this . This is a nonnegotiable discussion. The reporting is that discussion happened in the Situation Room. Here is what omarosa told chuck todd when he pressed her about making that recording. I protected myself fwhathis white house where everybody lies. The president lies. Sarah hauckabee lies. Youll see 17 knives in your books. If i didnt have this recording, people would still think that i was trying to set off alarms. Yes, i had to protect myself and i have no regret about it. New reaction to the white house by the white house of allegations of the president s racial slurs. Kelly, what can you tell us . Reporter the president has referred to his one time Reality Show Cast Mate and a person he helped make him a star. The now the president is referring to her as a low life in the reaction to the book. Also the recording that you just played excerpts of and her device, sean spicer believes that recording of the clehief o staff and others is a national
notion she heard this type of the president using the n word made during the production of The Apprentice. That interview challenged her about this and she said its many my book. Have you not read my book. Today with chuck todd she said she heard the tape after the book had gone to her publisher. She makes a distinction here and this is a contradiction within a merit of days about a central theme in her book. Was there Audio Evidence that the president used this slur and had she actually heard it. In the book she writes she was told about it from her Sources Associated with The Apprentice production time years ago ashnd now she is saying she heard the tape. Its a Credibility Test for a number of people in this drama. Richard. So well put there for us. Thanks for kicking us off again. Thank you. Credibility. Whats your take away. As you know, omarosa really coming after the president saying hes mentally declined, her words. As well as saying hes racist among many things. I think, first of all, we dont need omarosas book to decide whether hes racist. Hes been in off for a couple of years and had a long campaign. Hes said a lot of things that offended a lot of people. He called Neo Nazis Fine people. I think the question brings up is about trumps credibility. Theres nobody besides ivanka trump who has worked closely
with him. She had a top position. She was in the Situation Room. If shes a low life, if shes crazy, if shes unhinged why was she given such a high up position in the administration . How damaging is this for the white house and what do you expect to hear in the coming hours and days, if at all . Were already hearing from the white house. Thats an indication that theres damage or at least concern about damage. The president is racing out to talk about it. So is one of his top spokeswomen. I think they are taking it seriously and they should. Not because of the specific charges but something that goes deeper. This president came into office and put people into positions who should never have been in those positions. People who he had known through his business, his real tv background but whose
qualifications to fill top roles in government is dubious at best. Its blowing up on him now. We should be taking a serious look at john kelly here. The fact of the matter is that john kelly should be managing situations like this much better. If, in fact, people were sneaking Tape Recording devices into the Situation Room or other places in the white house and taping him when hes firing them, thats something that calls into question kellys management of the white house at this point. Laura bill ebuild on what jo saying. This has not been seen before. In the Situation Room, you have the Chief Of Staff, a recording made and it appears that General Kelly did not know that it was happening at that time. The legal ramifications, the Security Ramifications that might be discussed here. Its unbelievable that a woman was able to record her own
fire ing in the Situation Room. How did that happen . Thats an incredible breach of security. I think this white house is bizarre. Theres been nothing like it before. I know people from previous white houses have said we never had to sign nondisclosure agreements. What is that about . I think its a huge red flag if you have a white house that is trying to silence employees. Employees are getting fired left and right. They are foreign agents. They were lying. They come out and write horrible books about the president. Whether the books are true or not. I think a lot of people who voted President Trump into office knew he didnt have a ton of Policy Experience or knowledge but thought he was an excellent businessman and that he would have really good wisdom in terms of hiring people and who to surround himself with. Thats what hes proven to be the absolute worst at. I wonder whether his supporter can continue to stand by him and root for him knowing what they hired him for, he hasnt been able to do. John, laura was really
inpointing that. What are the mechanisms the look at how this happened . I am sure they are rushing to figure out how this happened. This is a massive embarrassment. Kelly is the guy who was brought in who was supposed to get things under control. Hes guy who was at homeland security. Who has a long and distinguished military career. If there was anyone who should have been on top of situation like this, its him. He wasnt. The fact of the matter is that if you except half of what omarosa says that the president isnt that good at what hes doing, hes bumbling, whatever. Then you say who is there to kind of keep things functioning . It ought to be john kelly. Now we have john kelly in middle
of a mess. With all due respect, no matter what your partisanship, ideology, this white house is not functioning well. What omarosas book and these interviews reveal is that dysfunction. We ought to be focused mostly on that. What else she says about him, that will be debated a great deal in coming days and weeks. Tapes and what tapes were heard and which were not. At the core of it is the revelation of dysfunction. Thank you both. Have a good sunday. Today is the one year mark of the charlottesville rally that left one person dead. In one hour a White Supremacist Rally will be leheld in counter the timers as well. You were saying last hour the
energy was growing. There were many from different parties and different places. Reporter thats right. You mentioned this is the anniversary. One year ago today the mark in charlottes which i wiville that the murder of Heather Heyer. She is top of mind. You have communist calling for violent overthrow of the government. We have folks calling for the jet stream of trumppresence to go. You see the green flags of the antifa movement. Here is another sign saying america was never great. A lot of this is sure to fuel people on the right who look down or disapprove of what they will see here. These folks are united. They are united against the march. The Unite Right March which they regard as a White Supremacist march. They want to avoid the confrontations last year. They think its a loser for them. The Counter Protesters as well as the protesters today, tha thank you so much. Jeff bennett is in foggy bottom where white supreissu supremacie marching. We expect these unite the right white nationalists protesters to arrive. Their plan is to march from here over to the white house which is in the shadow of the white house. Thats about a mile away. When they get off the train,
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time. Of course, thats entirely appropriate in a Government Employment situation. If youre someone who works for the president you are terminalable at will. If the president is no happy with your services you can be let go. Joyce, he mentions serious legal issues. Hard to know what hes talking about. Whats your reaction to that . This is the most unusual part of this conversation. Youre right. We dont know the details so i wouldnt want to get too far ahead of ourselves. If theres legal issues with someone in government then they need to be referred to the appropriate Inspector General or to the Justice Department for prosecution. If there are criminal legal issues. If violation of security protocols. If theres simply Human Resources related Policy Violations then maybe its just appropriate to let the person
go. Typically most people understand when the time has come and they are asked to leave, its time for them to go. Is john kelly the one to make these decisions in terms of who should be handling these serious legal issues . This is a difficult question to answer. It depends on the nature of the issues but certainly kelly would know based on his career that if there was criminal type issues that they had to be referred. Theres an obligation to refer those to an appropriate investigative body. They are up to him as Chief Of Staff to determine an outcome for. Folks would be asking why did she record that consideration. Nbc chuck todd asked that question. This is what she said. Chuck, if i did not have this recording people would still believe the false, incredible story that i was running around the white house. The false story that was told by a reporter and repeated by this network and other reporters that i tried to charge the residents at the white house. Its a lie. If i didnt have this recording, people would still think i was trying to set off alarms. Yes, i had to protect myself and i have no regret about it. Joyce, you know theres two sides. One is she face legal jeopardy here and was her defense of doing that good enough . This is the most reducktive vision of a white house and presidency that one can imagine. Its demeaning to the office. The people inside the white house were in such a state they felt like had to to tape and counter tape themselves. I cant imagine it. The reality is theres security issues, National Security consideration going on in the Situation Room and this area. This is not a place for personal
drama. This is a place where theres consequences to folks taking personal taping, personal listening devices into secured facilities where i never walked into a meeting in the Situation Room but just running into meetings in fbi or doj that occurred in secure facilities. You routinely drop your phone into a drop box outside of the room before you went in to prevent the possibility among other things that a hostile power could listen in on conversations that needed to remain private. She promised National Security. Obviously, this white house has a lot of issues but this compromised to Best Practices in this area is the serious one this needs to get a good hard look right now. Very quickly, who is responsible here, fbi, secret service, doj . If there is some legal question here for omarosa. It just depends on what the precise issues. She almost certainly needs a
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roger stones schedule. Why the you think this is something that right now, at least, mueller has interest in . I think theres two reasons they are looking into roger. One is legitimate and hits highly legitimate. Thats to get to the bottom of what roger knew in terms of the emails. Left a lot of crumbs out p publicly. I dont think he conspired against america. I think he conspired with himself. He left a lot of us with exposure. He sent an email to me claiming he had dinner with julian assan assange. Is this the role, at least what were hearing from Kristen Davis that he was the keeper of the schedule of roger stone . I think that goes into the second they were looking into him. I was questioned by a very fine lawyer. I have to problem with him being on muellers team. One of the first questions he asked me what who do you know
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important things is that we have been able to clearly understand that charlottesville is not place where theres a platform for facism, nazism. Thats the idea of White Supremacy needs to be called out. The more conversations that we all have and over the course of the last year the Heritage Center has been the sight of many of those conversations, that the Community Needs to be educated about what exactly does it mean to talk supremacy and how dud oes it ex in our contemporary lives. Whether its a conversation about housing or severe policing of africanamerican people. Whether its a conversation about the criminalizing of activists who over the course of the year through one court case or another have been placed in
the position where fighting White Supremacy has been determined to be a crime. I think those are some of the really important changes in charlottesville. The issue about race and what the president has said so far, i want to share with you some of the president s comments about that very topic of over the past year. I think theres blame. I think theres blame on both sides. You look at both sides, i think theres blame on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You dont have any doubt about it either. Only the nazis if you reported it accurately, you would say. Then saturday morning you may have seen this tweet. This is what the president said. The riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to all americans. How do you put those two times
in the ark of recent history . I would even go further back through his campaign where he was calling for people to be removed from Auditory Yuiums wh he need to return to a time of before. One would ask what was he referring to . The time when white people were physically violent towards black people. I think his desire to set himself up as a champion for africanamericans is, i dont want to go as far as say laughable but its suspect. One of the most shocking things that occurred last year was his statement about the there were bad people on both sides. Theres no equation there where theres any kind of equality between two sides in that way. If you think about the history of america and the ways in which violence has been used and the
kind of racial terrorism thats predominated the history of america, charlottesville, what happened last year was just another example of that. Spike lee folk with Reverend Al Sharpton today and Elijah Cummings was a talking about it. Hes not said anything about the one year anniversary. Hes not said anything about Heather Heyer who lost her life. Its another example of who this guy is. Its not even for debate anymore. We know who this guy is. When people go around asking is somebody a racist, you know what happens . Once i say that and if i were to say that, that would be the headline. Nobody would ever get the message. The message i want to get through is this president has consistly tried to distract us
from the things that weve been fighting for. Distract us from the great country that we are. Distract us from being the moral authority of this world. 15 seconds here, andrea. How would you explain what was just said to those who come to your center . What i would say is i who wholeheartedly agree with it. When we are refusing to name truth and when we refuse to claim truth and when we are willing to bend truth to our own sort of political and social needs then it becomes really difficult for people without evidence to understand what the full course and the full ark of American History is. T to a president who refuses to acknowledge the violence and for him to come out this weekend and say thing, he had nothing to say
in berkeley. He had nothing to say in what happened at portland. We cant expect much from him from his tweets this morning or when they were given to find credibility in his assertions. Andrea douglas, thank you. I hope you have a very peaceful day in charlottesville. Thank you. Appreciate it. Tonight, msnbc shares the story of a former White Supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others now. We invite you to breaking hate at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. For you next, how hindsight has helped omarosa see the light about the president. Rudy giuliani talks about the end date to have the russia pro probe. He claims Robert Mueller said it. About people. People who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams
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having that be the narrative thats out there when you have people people on your airwaves all the time by the way, like heather mcghee, angela rye, people who have fought and scraped for credibility, to have omarosa be the face of that is infuriating to me. Basil . I agree with that. I have been in politics for 20 years. The subterfuge in taping my bosses, that wouldnt have occurred to me. I wouldnt work in this business again and be taken seriously. It does bother me number one, that she would do this and use it as an attempt to get back in the good graces of those who have been in the fight for a long time. Suppose we hear that the president used the n word its not a surprise to me or other people out there. Will she be an ally in fighting for justice, will she bring republicans for example in
congress or elsewhere to try to push back against the policies that come from this president whos used this language to define us . I dont know that thats going to happen. But you know if it sells books i guess that what shes in this for. It appears that The Apprentice is no longer The Apprentice. Right. I appreciate basil and joels perspectives on this. Thank you for that, guys. Im a former Senate Staffer and a former Campaign Staffer and its never occurred to me either to record any of my conversations with my bosses. Ic what youre seeing is i think what youre seeing is a reality star behaving like a reality star. Lets not forget she has been on Celebrity Big Brother following her tenure in the white house. This entire campaign, her book rollout or whatever, shes doing what she can to be famous. I dont think anyone should take
it seriously. Shes doing what she can to sell books and thats really it. I guess not recording in confidential spaces in the white house is so 2017. I guess so. Honestly, i think we should not be talking about omarosa. Because this is exactly what she wants in order to sell books. And if the question at hand is what how the president addresses race, then i think we already had all of the answers to that based on his actions, based on his words. Based on the policies that his administration has put into play. So, you know, like basel said earlier, we dont need a tape or a book to shine any new light on what the administration is doing. Thats what we should be focusing on is the damage thats been caused rather than omarosa and her, you know, kind of her selfserving needs right now. So we have about a minute left. Very quickly, joel, what should happen next . What should happen is what
she said. Omarosa needs this oxygen to sell her book. Im not buying or reading this book. After this conversation i frankly dont plan on having many more about it. Lets talk about something that happens like the 500 plus children orphaned by this government or the white nationalists emboldened by the president. 15 seconds. I agree. I focus specifically on whats happening in washington today and in charlottesville. We have got to bring people back together and not be divisive. Lauren . I agree with the rest of the panel. Time to move on from this and really discuss the issues that matter. And to you, you have 30 seconds because lauren is so fast. All right. I would say finally, you know what we need to do is we need to address the root of the problem and we need to find out why it is that people are choosing to judge each other. To persecute each other. To dehumanize others and the manipulative tactics that are used to have people blame it on
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