Lot of cbp and others are trying to do the best they can as humanistically they can under an insane flipflop out of the white house. But what is the worst aspect of what we have seen today is that this president calls those little girls that stood out from those mounds of mylar ms13, calls them criminals, wants americans to believe that the hundreds of people that we saw in the facility behind us are a danger to them and to this country. They were scared little girls who deserve, as challenging as the law is, deserve the values and the ethical good treatment that we as americans are here to demand and make sure they receive. Well go through the days headlines this hour with nbcs cal perry and Gabe Gutierrez in texas and Kelly Odonnell at the white house. Time magazines jay newton and harwood round out our team. Gabe gutierrez in mcallen texas. We saw a group of lawmakers. They just toured one of the facilities there housing some of the Migrant Children. What more did they say besides that heart wrenching testimony . Reporter hi there, gigi. Good afternoon. More than 20 democratic lawmakers were here given this tour and has been difficult to get images from inside these facilities, journalists were just recently allowed without cameras to go inside and see this ursula processing center, the largest microprocessing center in the country. We should be clear. The democratic lawmakers went to saying the conditions for the kids themselves, but they are treated well. The big issue right now is that they are separated from their parents. Lets look a little bit more what we heard from the lawmakers a short time ago. Take a listen. They were small children, many of them under the age of 5 who were segregated from their parents and were crying. These children especially are traumatized. So this is part of this Trump Administrations zero tolerance policy which to me is barbaric to me. Thousands of children who are out there right now untethered to their parents and no coherent system to fix that, and that is something that the president can order and strengthen. This has just been heartbreaking. I think the people working here are trying to bring some compassion to the job but theyre in an impossible situation. Reporter according to an administration official, all of the children that were in cbp have already been reunited with their parents but thats a small number, gigi. The largest number is those that are in the care, the department of health and Human Services and that could be somewhere around 2,000. Its tough to get an accurate count of that, but we have been speaking to some of the mothers that are in detention right now and they say that for ten days or so, they just havent been able to hear from their children. Some of them dont even know where their child is. Two others that we spoke with who are being held in detention here in texas, one of their children is in new york state. The other one told us that her child is in michigan and the only way she found out about that is because she was able to call other family members that told them where their child was. So its a very confusing situation right now. Director of Field Operations for ice admitted yesterday in the News Conference said it would be very difficult to be able to reunite these families in any clear way, following this executive order and the average stay for children in its care is 57 days. So logistically, this is very difficult what the government is trying to do right now and immigration activists say it could take a very long time. Really hard to take in, and no clear path to reunite the children with the parents. Gabe gutierrez, thanks. Lets go to msnariana atencio. Its been difficult to watch the chaos and confusion unfold. There today as well, what are they saying . Reporter gigi, this group of lawmakers just went in literally almost five minutes ago. I dont know if you could make them out behind me. Its a group of congresswomen, fredricka willson and then darren soto, ted deutsche. Theyre going to see what conditions these children are being held inside and we know theres more than a thousand children in this facility in homestead. It is the second largest shelter for Migrant Children in the country. We know that 70 of those thousand were separated from their parents. It houses children ages 13 to 17 including almost 400 girls and as you were just describing and just hearing from Gabe Gutierrez, the process of reunifying the children with their parents, it is very complicated and Debbie Wassermanschultz demanded out here from the administration, that an efficient process be put forth for the reyun any kaunifi happen. Heres what she said minutes ago. Quickly establishing a process to make sure these children were torn from their parents and immorally and unacceptably unable to be reunited and thats what were talking about them today. Reporter so i dont know if you could make it out. Gigi rolling in on golf carts going inside this facility now. They were actually turned away from visiting that facility earlier this week. I asked Debbie Wassermanschultz what changed but its the media pressure, you guys out here and inside now and tell us what conditions these children are in and if they were able to speak to any of them when they come out an hour from now. Gigi . We are not going to let up on that media pressure. Mariana atencio, thank you for your report. Back at the white house, new insight on the behind the scenes commotion that led up to the president s reversal on separating the migrant families. More on this is Kelly Odonnell. What can you tell us . Reporter this is an issue where youve got the emotion weve seen at the border. Youve got the brew rock ureauc the conflicting views on what the white house should do and should do now because of the policy thats in effect and the changes that have been made. So across our own reporting and also fleshed out by the New York Times and the washington post, theres been division inside the white house about the best steps. The president not necessarily wanting to sign an executive order, ultimately, did so and has then been pressuring the congress to act and yet then backing off of that pressure because he is seeing the hard line divisions within the Republican Party to try to address this as well as the need to get 60 votes in the senate which means youd need democratic support that seems unlikely. And then inside the white house, among the different agencies, conflicting views on how to carry out not only the policy of zero tolerance that the president is advocating but also the revised policy of not separating families and how do you do that when there arent enough facilities . There arent facilities tailored to keeping parents and Children Together while also prosecuting the parents, so theres been conflict about how to carry that out. Its evidence of the fact that they did not have a plan going beyond the initial stages of this and the zero tolerance policy which triggered the family separations with something that reflected the hard line of the president and attorney general Jeff Sessions on what the Trump Administration believes is a core issue politically for them to have a stronger border and tough enforcement, but the consequence of that is what has played out on our tv screens and the people who are seeing it up close and personal along the border and of course, through the families that are most directly involved. So the pushback from the white house is that there is frustration, certainly, held by the president and some around him about how to carry this out. And then the job sort of tossed on to the agencies that have to deal with this. We have the department of Homeland Security, health and Human Services, even the department of defense is coming up with ideas for how to house people who are affected by this. So lack of planning for what came after is really whats reflected in this, differing views about how tough to be and then what to do about the mess thats been created. Gigi . Frustrated agencies trying to figure out how to implement all of this as it continues to change. Kelly odonnell, thanks. So joining me now to talk about all of this is jay newton, a contributor. Jay newton small, contributor for Time Magazine and cnbcs editor at large, john, what latest poll and i have a hard time imagining how this can be. Maybe you can explain it to me. The president s Approval Ratings are up right now at 45 . So how do you interpret this increase in the midst of everything thats happening . I think most of what is floating the president s Approval Rating is the Strong Economy and the longer that the president presides over a Strong Economy, the greater the sense of contentment that people have with the way things are going in general. Now, it will be interesting to see thats what gallop had last monday, the highest since the beginning of the presidency. How will this weeks news, headlines, anguish displayed on television, how will that affect gallups ratings this coming monday . We dont know but the other thing weve seen is it has not helped his fellow republicans who are running for congress and our nbc wall street journal poll a couple of weeks ago, his numbers were up but the republican numbers were down. So theres a question as to how significant this is for his party at this moment. Thats why the midterm elections will be so very telling. Jay, i want to read this quofro the New York Times article. The president s whiplash indu inducing order caught several people by surprise. Just a day before mr. Trump signed it, one person close to the president said that he told advisers that separating families at the border was the best deterrent to illegal immigration and that, quote, my people love it. Whats your sense of how reluctant the president is signing the executive order, reversing that separation policy, is this something he didnt want to do . I cant speak to whether the president wanted to or not, but he ultimately signed it but just a few moments ago, the president tweeted that Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi, the Democratic Leaders in congress clearly supported Illegal Immigrants more than they supported u. S. Citizens, so this is certainly an issue he feels still is a winner for him. Still appeals to his base and making it a political one where its democrats versus republicans, and democrats protecting Illegal Immigrants over the interest of american citizens and he, on the other hand, is a championing american citizen over the interests of Illegal Immigrants and that was the case in the press conference yesterday with these socalled angel families where these are families, americans or Illegal Immigrants of the United States who had loved ones killed by nondocumented immigrants coming to the United States whether its car wrecks or other ways, and they say, the case the president makes here is these are people permanently separated from loved ones by these immigrants, study upon study show immigrants, particularly undocumented ones, are much less likely to commit crimes than american citizens and Illegal Immigrants. I want to play another clip. The president s handling of mai grants at the border. Lets listen. This is a humanitarian crisis and the chaos this president has sewed is leaving these children and families afraid. They spent a month. They dont got no message from tv they should turn around and go home. These agents are concerned and confused. They are public servants. We need consistency and compassion out of this administration and to work with us, to solve this problem. Not to call these people infesting our country. Its insulting, its wrong and dangerous. We need to do better. Its a powerful message and is this going to be the messaging, john, do you think, from democrats leading up to the midterms as we move forward . Yes, and theres a strong basis for the democratic messaging, gigi. Look, this is a president who lacks empathy, who is often detached from reality. Weve seen all week long, he said enormous amount of things that are not only not true but not even close to being true and hes also as a manager, inept. He embarked on this policy with his administration and they plainly, as they got to this week, they had no idea what they were doing. They were insisting that something had to be done by congress that they couldnt do anything, and then they reverse course and this is a president who springs things on his staff. He does not have a koocoordinat government, he has a chaotic government, and the entire country is paying a price for it. Its definitely been a clearly difficult pr week for him, so jay, do you think this is going to help propel the democrats Going Forward towards the midterms . I think john is right in saying a lot will depend how much this issue sticks and as much as we talk about it, we are not sure how much it permeates into the rest of america and frankly, the economy is really strong right now, so youve seen the numbers really improve not for the president and some degree, there are some polls that show the generic ballot amongst democrats and republicans has improved from the beginning of the year. Republicans down by 10 points and now up ahead by 2 in the generic ballot, so theyre swung 12 points since the beginning of the year. Thats a huge gain for republicans, so a lot of factors that matter with these races and a lot of it is hard to judge generically, because each individual race is very much about that person and those local issues, but certainly, i think, its very, very hard to see these two competing issues as sort of, youve got the head in the sense of the economy versus the heart of all of these issues with immigrants and potentially racism, sexism, and we dont really know whats going to permeate and i dont think we will for several months. It seems like the tide turns daily. I want to go underneath those numbers a little bit with the clear picture of who the president is talking to. Quinnipiac had a poll that showed democrats ahead by six points on the generic ballot. They were ahead by 76 points among blacks and 27 among latinos and 10 points among College Educated whites. The only group keeping republicans close in the generic ballot was white people who have not been to college, who have not graduated from college. With that group, the republicans were ahead by 27 points, 59 to 32. That is squarely the group that President Trump is talking to, that republicans are standing by him as he talks to and that is an indication of where the campaign is going from the republican side and how democrats will fight back at it. Very illustrative indication, john harwood, jay newton small. In a moment, well talk about a woman heading for the border. Stormy daniels. What is she going to offer to help migrant families . Youll want to stick around to find out. vo new purely fancy feast filets. Like nothing you, or she, has ever seen. Filets of 100 real natural chicken or seafood. Handcrafted, and served any way she wants. Purely fancy feast filets. Love is in the details. Youre smart,eat you already knew that. But its also great for finding the perfect used car. 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Now we switch gears to adult film star Stormy Daniels getting involved in the situation at the border. She tweeted this thursday. I am heading down in a week. Dont worry, just figuring out my best course of action to figure out hi resources. Her attorney representing whistle blowers within immigration and customs enforcement. So joining me now is francis sellers of the washington post. Thanks for joining me, francis. Lets call this a case of strange bedfellows to say the least. What is Stormy Daniels goal here and what kind of impact can she make . Stormy can always bring ta g attention to an issue. This is when her own federal suit in los angeles is in a stay, if you will. So theres a long three month period in that case she has filed against President Trump and Michael Cohen and in the meantime, she has been going on with her own tour. She was in chicago last night and comes to washington in a while and now shes entered the controversy of the moment. She said shes going down to the border and its not clear from her tweet what she intends to do when she gets there but her attorney, her message is effective on twitter as does the president. So in a sense, you see these two populous messages coming together over, as i said, the controversy of the moment. It certainly is. I want to talk about this article you wrote, the Beverly Hills hotel and that former contestant on the apprentice who says trump sexually assaulted her in 2007 and now shes suing him for beenly calli publicly c liar and accused the president of Sexual Misconduct and the president denying all the claims. Well, we know about the Beverly Hills hotel. The storied reputation of keeping scandals private. Why is this hotel an important part of your story . This is an important part because Hotel Records can show where a person was at a certain time. Thats a very standard part of investigations in cases like this. One of the things that trump denied was that he ever met summer in the Beverly Hills hotel. She, of course, alleges, he groped her in one of the bungalows of the hotel. Now, the attorneys for summer can go ahead and subpoena as they have done, the Beverly Hills hotel for records and we dont know exactly which records but these will be things like men use or more importantly, billing, booking arrangements. And they could show whether or not trump was there in the months she claims he groped her in the hotel and these are standard procedures in terms of proving or backing a claim that people make when they file a suit of this kind. What would attorneys hope to gain here . They hope to gain, as i said, evidence of whether someoummer telling the truth saying trump groped her in that hotel. You think you wrote although the case has taken a backseat in media coverage, it does have potential for a sweeping impact. Explain what you mean by that. For two reasons. Yes, for two reasons. For one reason, this case is a case in state court and the president s lawyers have argued forcefully that hes immune from being sued in state court. This is a test case and could encourage other people or discourage other people depending on the outcome of that. So far, the judge in the case, jennifer schechter, in new york, said the case can move forward. Shes backed summers lawyers in this. So this case now moved into discovery which is the other very important part of this. Its the first case in which the president s private life could come under investigation by summers lawyers deposing some of the lawyers and already subpoenaed the claim any evidence he inappropriately touched them and now subpoenaed the hotel and subpoenaed mgm which holds the outtakes from the apprentice. The private life has taken a backseat in the headlines but it is not going away. Francis sellers, thank you for your reporting. Thank you very much. Up next, supporting the separation of migrant families. Were going to speak to the head of the texas border volunteers. He explains why it actually could save lives. Island anymore. [ roar ] [ heavy breathing ] [ scream ] rated pg13. Frug. At uber, were listening to what matters most to you and were committed to improving every ride. Starting with features designed to make it easy for your driver to find you. Taking the stress out of pickups. And were putting safety at the heart of everything we do. With a single tap, were giving you new ways to let loved ones know youre on your way. Uber has new leadership, a new vision and is moving in a new direction. Forward. Welcome back. Im gigi stone woods in for alex witt here at msnbc World Headquarters in new york. As we approach the half hour, heres what were monitoring. Thousands of children are separated from their parents at the border. Cal perry is live near a facility where minors are held in tornillo, texas. What are you seeing . Reporter a steady stream of lawmakers have been coming here to try to access that camp behind me. As you said, this is the tent city here in tornillo, texas. A steady stream have been coming in. Today was medical professionals. A hundred of them marching here in the location just to make the point of the federal government that they would like to have access. What are the medical issues the children are likely to face . Look at what he said. In the shortterm, we often see anxiety, inability to eat, sadness, children will break out and cry for no reason. A manifestation of posttraumatic stress disorder and real longterm implications from the exposure of chronic stress and that includes an increase in Heart Disease and copd and suicidality and drug use and depression. Reporter you know, those longterm health issues, gigi, its really a neverending list, especially when you factor in that some of these children are likely or its possible that they could never be reunited with their families. The other thing thats important to remember is that a lot of them are moved around the country as happening sometimes at night. That can obviously cause psychological distress. Add to that, its quite likely that many of these children will end up on military bases across the country and thats just going to make it more difficult for us, the mediate publimmedimc to track them. Thank you. Well talk to a sixth generation texan and chairman of the texas borders volunteers. Dr. Mike vickers, we appreciate you here to share a different perspective than we have been hearing. Dr. Vickers, you own a ranch along the southern texas border. Whats your firsthand experience been with illegal immigration . Well, gigi, thank you for having us, having me, and i have to say, the family units and unaccompanied children have been coming across our property and through texas for the past 30 years. This is nothing new and even the last administration was plagued with this same problem and thousands of these unaccompanied minors were flown all over the United States to be reunited with suspected family members or people that knew them, so this is nothing new. The sad thing about it is, you know, there are a lot of little bitty children and infants and even pregnant women fixing to have babies and weve had situations in our area where our border volunteers worked where the women delivered babies out in the brush. So its just a real terrible situation, but you know, were dealing with it. Were dealing with it. So you agree, its a terrible situation but you spoke with my colleague, Kerry Sanders and you supported President Trumps policy of separating parents and children. So what are your thoughts on all of this, the president s executive order ending the policy of separating migrant families . Well, you know, im agreeable with everything the president does. I can tell you this much. People like me and my neighbors who live along the texas border feel at ease now since this president has come into office. The Border Patrol have better operating equipment. Theyve got a better attitude. Theyre gung ho, theyre doing their job. Their hands are untied and we feel a lot safer now under this administration, but, you know, these people that are bringing these children in here are the same parents that are bringing them through a dangerous hostile environment in mexico. They bring them across that river. They team up with a dangerous gang member coyote that works for the cartels, bring them up to our county line or south of these checkpoints, dump them out, and these parents bring them through this harsh environment, the brush and the desert, only to show up on my front door and my neighbors front door dehydrated, emaciated, hungry, malnourished, scratches all over them and in some cases, bloody feet and even showing up barefooted. So, you know, i havent got a lot of compassion for the parents. I feel strongly for the kids and the president s most recent order, im agreeable with that as well. So many of these cases though, these parents are escaping violent conditions overrun by gangs, lawless societies where they really have no choice. Its not like theyre hoping to go through these dangerous treacherous journey. They feel like they have no choice and theyre coming here to save their childrens lives, to save their own lives in many cases. Do you have any sympathy for them . Well, yes, i do, but thats not always the case. A lot of them already have family members here and the family members are encouraging them to bring the children because theyre more likely to get to stay. So these children are used in this scenario. No question, theyre in a gang environment and just about all of these unaccompanied minors, 11 years old and 17 years old and the border volunteers, i help the Border Patrol apprehend hundreds if not thousands the past 12 years, just about all of them are encouraged to join a gang in el salvador and guatemala by the time theyre 8 years old. So these kids are street smart and in some cases, Border Patrol agents told me in the interview process or the interrogation process on these kids, some of them have already committed horrific crimes in their own country including murder. So these kids are not. These children are actually escaping gangs. Yes. A picture were painting of immigrants as criminals thats happened throughout history and is just removed from the fact. In fact, many cases, immigrants, when there are many immigrants in a neighborhood, there are lower crime rates and the statistics prove that but we appreciate you sharing your perspective, mike vickers in joining us today. Okay, thank you very much. Next up, well talk about ivanka trump. Her deafening silence on the separation of migrant families. The reason shes not spoken publicly goes back some 30 years. Stay with us for more. This is a story about mail and packages. And its also a story about people. People who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams theyre handing us more than mail theyre handing us their business and while we make more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget. That your business is our business the United States postal service. Priority you let someone else do the heavy lifting. 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And took aim at President Trump for separating migrant families. Lets listen. President trump and his Republican Leadership have decided to inflict as much pain as they can on people coming to the United States. I want you to just look at the list. His administration has ripped children from the arms of their mamas. He has signed off on locking up small children in wire cages. Hes shrugged off the problem of reuniting thousands of children who have been taken away from their mothers and fathers. As members of the trump family face criticism over the separations, theres a new book out and revealing fresh insight into the Family Dynamics at play beneath the surface. Msnbcs alex witt sat down with emily jane fox. Shes the author of a book called born trump, inside americas first family. Also, a Senior Reporter for vanity fair and msnbc contributor. She wanted to hear what she learned about the trump children and their complicated relationships with their father. I tell you. This thing is fantastic. Its a page turner. I cannot put it down because its giving me insight into this family that, yeah, we know the wealth, we know the fame, we know the scandal, and now we know the politics. But youre delving into this family in a way thats helping to explain the presentday circumstances. Talk about what all youve learned. That was the whole reason why i wanted to write this book. There was so much out there about this family. Weve been reading about the children since they were born, but theres so many questions about why the children choose to do things today, so for example, whats been going on with ivanka trump whether or not she was going to speak out on what was going on in the border and i feel like after you read the book, you have a deeper understanding of the psychological relationship and bounds with her father. You would understand why she was never going to speak out against him because when she went through the divorce between her father and her mother ivana, she was worried her father was going to leave her. She was worried her last name was no longer going to be trump. She would call him once they got divorced. So that shes worried about her father being angry with her and not speaking out of turn is born out of her childhood. Thats a relationship and dynamic theyve had for the last 30 years and so it really helps understand some of the more head scratching things and frustrating things that we see play out in washington and back in new york as well. This family is not dissimilar to the fact that divorce has very much shaped these kids, particularly the divorce of this high profile magnitude. The children were chased on their way to school with tabloid covers, talking about the fathers sex life. They were hounded by paparazzi. Thats brutal. Not only paparazzi screaming, but what about this headline, what about that headline but you have kids in class when youre 12 years old, the boys will make fun of you. Got in fistfights in school defending his mom. When you have kids, your life tends to revolve around the children. Thats not the case with the trumps. The children had to fit into their lives and what suited particularly, donald, and so its just, for his privileged as the childhood was and very privileged, it was difficult and put in very difficult situations. Theres one story in the book that when donald trump was first starting to date melania, he was also dating a another model and she had come to the apartment and had gotten, she must have had makeup on and got makeup on the sheets and the towels in the tri plex and melania made her way up before it was cleaned up and said, wheres this makeup from . Why is there this makeup on the towels and he said, oh, well ivanka was here and she had just come from a photo shoot and she got makeup on and just ask her. Thats the kind of situation he was putting his children in when they were young adults, teenagers and so its just, to understand that dynamic really helps you. It does speak volumes right there. Bottom line, the approach to washington is something theyre embracing or they wish they didnt have to do because lets face it as your descriptions will say, their lives of privilege were fabulous. They had a great life before this and i think that things are generally more, in some way, more difficult for them now, but particularly, jared and ivanka, they chose to do this and they continue to stay, which is another choice they continue to make and in some ways, some social doors have been closed to all of them. Theyre certainly under more scrutiny than ever, but theres so many doors that have been opened to them. Theyve met with world leaders. They are doing business deals around the world that perhaps they wouldnt have been able to do before and so. Subject thats sore to some. And made quite a bit of money in office, jared and ivanka alone made 82 million that first year they were there and so things have changed but not necessarily for the worse. All the immigration headlines with ivanka, do you get a sense of the extent to which ivanka may have influenced her father to really pivot 180 degree turn because she did not like to see the images of children being snatched from their mothers . No one likes to see the images, so i dont know anyone gets bonus points for being upset at these images. Perhaps there were conversations she had with her father and certainly reports of that but there tends to be reports of ivanka advocating behind the scenes on any controversial issue and never had success in steering him in a different direction before. So certainly, she weighed in privately on this issue, but so did a number of republican lawmakers. So did every Single Person on cable news for weeks at a time. Ivanka has known about this for weeks. She got in a bit of hot water for posting a photo with her young son, the weeknd, that childrtook her to tuesday of this week and then its hard for me to say she was the driving force when we show the timeline the way we know it. Emily jane fox born trump taking with me and read some more of it. Thank you so much. Thank you. White House Press SecretarySarah Huckabee sanders said she was thrown out of a restaurant. Why did it happen . Next up how could attorney general Jeff Sessions deny he did not advocate separating migrant families, well talk about it. I am all about living joyfully. Hello. The new united explorer card hooks me up. Getting more for getting away. Rewarded going new places and tasting new flavors. Rewarded traveling lighter. Rewarded haha getting settled. 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We cannot allow our country to be overrun by i will lyle immigrants as the democrats tell their phoney story of sadness and grief, hoping it will help them in elections. Obama and others had the same pictures and did nothing about it. I dont know where to start. Its the response anyone who read history would give. That is, you have to begin the process of turning people into animals by dehumanizing sorry to mispronounce and raising the issue of public safety. So, separation of families is an american tradition. It goes back to the native americans who were here first and obviously with slaves. When i talk about separation, its also disposal of people. Babies were disposed of. The infirmed were disposed of, the aged. This is repetition of history without trump, i suspect, understanding it. Consequently these false claims trump and his surrogates are making and destroying lives and destroying the reputation of america around the world. And repetition of history. Criminalize i criminalizing erroneously these immigrants coming in. There are reports the pentagon is preparing to house nearly 20,000 unaccompanied imMigrant Children at military bases. Is that appropriate . The question is, how long do you house these individuals . Null whos going to pay for this . You know, karen bass, a congressman was on in the previous hour and she was talking about how were already having difficulty housing kids taken away from their parents because of abuse situations, et cetera, in our own country. How can we efficiently, effectively do this with kids coming from other countries . The underlying issue is why are these parents escaping where their native countries. We have to start looking at this from a longterm approach figuring out what we can do to Better Society overall so there isnt that need for people to leave. How long can we hold them is a good question, but also all of the families who are still entering at this very minute. What is going to happen to them . Peter, we want to talk about white House Press Secretary sarah sanders. She was asked to leave this virginia restaurant because of her work for the Trump Administration. This comes days after the big story where Homeland Security secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was heckled at a mexican restaurant, appropriately, ultimately forcing her out the door. Is all of this fair game, in your opinion . Absolutely. This is a time for moral and ethical courage. Its not time for courtesies. And what this administration is doing, along with its surrogates, who so boldly lie every day, whether its the press secretary or secretary of Homeland Security, demands, demands some public response thats appropriate. My understanding was, she was asked not to serve not to be served. And she left quietly. So, im all in favor of that because, lets not forget what happened in germany when people were silent, cambodia, rwanda, new myanmar with the rohingyas. 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White House Press SecretarySarah Huckabee sanders asked to leave a restaurant because she works for President Trump. President trump about to dive headfirst into the midterms as he flips back and forth on immigration. He is spending the day in las vegas campaigning for a vulnerable republican senator. The president trying to move past the fallout over the separation of migrant families. Three days after that executive order, nearly 2,000 children