Of the government aid bill. Without this bipartisan bill being funded government aid will be delayed and the government will shut down on monday. Leaders on capitol hill are simultaneously grapple with the president s veto of a massive and overwhelmingly bipartisan defense bill to fund the military which congress will soon try to override. And in addition to the chaos on capitol hill, the president is also sparking controversy with his latest round of pardons. Paul manafort, roger stone, Jared Kushners father charles. They headline a group of Close Associates and individuals that have some legal experts wondering whether President Trump will select rudy giuliani, his adult children, or even himself to be part of the next round of pardons. Lets get started with garrett haak haake. House republicans trying to spin what they are seeing as them standing with the president on funding foreign aid. Is this a message that will resonate with americans . The foreign aid portion, its almost impossible to see how it would. Look. Its not just the checks that are caught up in this covid relief bill. Its expanded Unemployment Benefits which will run out the day after christmas. Its the Eviction Moratorium which will run out in january. Its tens of billions of dollars for testing and Vaccine Distribution that would have been useful weeks if not months ago thats all being held up and the funding for the entire government which will run out on the 28th if the president does not sign this bill. Thats why back on capitol hill, my usual stomping grounds today, we heard from both republicans and democrats saying the president needs to sign the bill passed with the input of his administration, with the negotiating done by Steven Mnuchin and perhaps then we can continue to fight over some of these other measures, particularly those plussed up stimulus checks which democrats tried to put forward today and were blocked by the president s own party. Congressman kerbella, some of your colleagues did express a level of concern with what the president is doing as his time in office runs out. Why is the will to publicly push back on him still not there . Well, lindsey, the greatest fear that most republicans still have these days is a primary challenge and getting sideways with donald trump makes it more likely that they could face primary challenges. So thats why they are trying to give him this opportunity to save face to try to resolve this amicably. But what a lot of them dont understand is that the president will not stop and will not take an off ramp unless republicans go along with his efforts to overturn the election result or to undermine the election result to say that it was somehow delegitimate. That is ultimately what he wants. That is why hes acting so desperately. Thats why hes fighting to stay relevant. So republicans, they try to continue feeding him bits and pieces, but its never going to be enough until he gets 100 of what he wants. So some republicans are going down that path, as you mentioned, but others have said, enough is enough and understand that its time to break with donald trump because his requests are unreasonable and his actions are reckless. Garrett, when the president released his video slamming the code relief bill, this question came into my mind because it caught so many allies off guard. Do you think theres some part of Mitch Mcconnell that sees all this chaos from President Trump in these final weeks, and he actually looks forward to a more predictable politician like joe biden, someone hes worked with in the past in these future negotiations . Mitch mcconnell wrote a book a couple of years ago about his political philosophy called the long game. Thats how he thinks about politics. He knows that hes playing a game that will go far beyond what President Trump will do, even if President Trump had won. Mitch mcconnell just got another sixyear term. His relationship with joe biden, which he has described as a friendship, goes back for decades. One of the only Senate Republicans, maybe the only Senate Republican to go to beau bidens funeral. While they will have significant policy differences, perhaps more pitch policy battles, especially if Mitch Mcconnells relegated to minority leader again next year if democrats win the two georgia seats. He knows that biden is someone who he can negotiate with and who is going to stand by the commitments theyve made so many times over the last four years weve covered situations up on capitol hill where mcconnell has held his cards particularly close, knowing that the possibility always exists to be undercut at the last minute by President Trump. And hes once again doing it on his way out the door here in less than a month. Pete, lets bring you in here. Im not going to ask you about the long game, but i want to ask you about the pardons which are within the president s powers. These arent the first controversial pardons a president has made. Bill clinton certainly made some controversial pardons. How do these stack up against past president s. Fewer. President trump has used the Pardon Authority less frequently than many predecessors have. Secondly, hes not used the traditional avenue for pardons which is that people file clemency petitions with the Justice Department, the office of pardon attorney reviews them, sees if they merit the suggestions that justice makes and then pass those recommendations on to the white house. But those are only recommendations, and the president is free to pardon whomever he wishes. In this case, President Trump has tended to pardon people either recommendations made by political supporters or friends of his or other republican members of congress. Quite a few of these recent pardons, for example, the white house notes were supported by conservatives in congress. And then people who were politically loyal to the president and it would seem that a big theme in some of these recent pardons is a continued rejection of the mueller investigation. Anybody who was convicted by mueller gets a pardon with two obvious exceptions. Rick gates who cooperated with mueller. Wouldnt expect him to get a pardon and Michael Cohen who basically turned on the president. Pete, what would be some of the considerations from that review board . Is remorse one of them . Well, sure. The Justice Department office of pardon attorney considers pardons to be an act of grace, of mercy. And so one of the things is, does the person who is receiving the pardon, has that person shown remorse . Have they shown contrition . George papadopoulos yesterday, for example, has never shown remorse and has said the pardon was rejection of the mueller investigation. Generally speaking, the person pardoned has to be at least five years out from finishing service of a sentence or getting convicted. And so there are a number of factors like that, service to the community. Now, you know, in fairness to the president , a lot of these pardons have been people who were given long drug sentences, for example, and have shown service to the community and have shown some efforts at reforming and expressing some remorse. But the more highprofile ones dont fit the Justice Department definition, but again, the president is free to accept or ignore those recommendations. And accepting a pardon is accepting guilt . Well, you know, it didnt used to be the view. The old view of the law was a pardon expunged everything, wiped the record clean. But the Supreme Court has said when you accept a pardon it is an admission of guilt, and it doesnt completely blot out your record. It does certainly allow people to get restoration of civil rights, for example, and vote and own a firearm. Interestingly, a lot of the clemency petitions that have piled up at the Justice Department are people who want a pardon so they can once again own a gun and go hunting. Congressman curbelo, whats the lack of public outrage from republican lawmakers in pertaining to these pardons, except for senator ben sasse of nebraska, tell you . Again, its the same theme that a lot of what motivates members of congress these days, in both parties, but in this case, obviously, republicans, is fear. And thats fear of a primary. Fear of a tweet from the president attacking a member of congress. That is what members are trying to avoid. Common wisdom among republicans is that its best to stay low, stay under the radar. Let this storm pass. Hopefully january 20th will come and go without a whole lot more fanfare, even though i think the next few weeks are probably going to be turbulent. And then, yes, as you indicated, i think not just Mitch Mcconnell but most if not all Congressional Republicans are looking forward to a more predictable, stable environment under president joe biden. As good as its been for republicans in some ways to be able to move some of their agenda priorities over the last four years, the cost has been very high. And that includes a personal cost. The personal cost of having to contend with president s antics every single day. There will be a sigh of relief on both sides of the aisle when joe biden is sworn in. What should we expect, if anything, from the president down at maralago . Well, traditionally speaking, when hes been down here, he is less ensconced with staff and less surrounded by the aides who sometimes keep his other impulses in check. I expect a lot of golf and potentially a lot of twitter activity and always the possibility that other action like more pardons could follow. Obviously something he doesnt need the legislature for. 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I want to start with your reaction to this veto by President Trump. Well, look, the National Defense bills have been a bipartisan agreement for 59 years. The president normally has already proposed, overwhelmingly, all the major provisions of the bill. It doesnt get invented in congress. It goes over to congress. Frequently, congress will put into that bill controversial measures, normally not huge ones, with a presumption that the president wont dare veto the whole bill and it will slide on through. That certainly was the case of this renaming of u. S. Army bases after second tier confederate generals. Its just an astonishing, chaotic, irresponsible action by the president. They got to pass the bill, combined with shutting down the government on monday at midnight. The president is setting fire to the policy defense policies of the United States. General, what happens if they dont pass the ndaa . Theres so much up in the air right now. What is hanging in the balance . Politics. Do republican congressmen and senators have the courage to stand behind a bill they already voted for by vetoproof majorities. They already signed up both Political Parties largely by overwhelming majorities for this provision as an example on Confederate Military bases. So i dont see any way out. They have to pass the bill. If they dont, the entire u. S. Defense establishment goes into a partial lockdown, utter insanity when were dealing with russian aggression, north Korean Nuclear weapons, iranian transigence on the Nuclear Development program, a massive russian hack on the entire u. S. Government. Is trump actually capable of leaving the country with its defenses impaired . I think he is completely. Now the question moves to the republicans in congress and what theyll do about it. You know, it just theres no way to understand the mans thinking. This basically was tweeted out to his republican supporters in congress as he left to play golf. Monday and tuesday, i hope, they reverse course and stand behind sensible defense policy for america. Yeah, general, while the president tweeted that news, there are men and women in our armed forces who are away from their families on this Christmas Holiday. What impact does all of this political football have on them, the military families who sacrifice so much . Well, you know, i think largely speaking the deployed fighter squadrons, u. S. Navy ships, army battalions, special Operations Forces dont tend to pay a lot of attention to any of this stuff. For 59 years theyve learned the country, all americans, want a sound military defense. And these defense bills have been argued out in enormous detail over the last year. So they are assuming the thing will go through. I think the big impact on it is that our government is starting to look like a third world bunch of nincumpoops. Theres no way to run a congress the way the president runs National Security. The 2. 1 million men and women active guard and reserve, 740 billion budget and they just have thrown all the cards up in the air. So its incompetence. The congress is failing in their duties and this president is a lawless rogue. General, does it add insult to injury because of what President Trump is dangling in holding this bill hostage and that is his own personal grievances with renaming bases currently names after confederate soldiers and tweaking section 230 . Certainly the confederate soldiers part is really astonishing. I think theres overwhelming support inside the armed forces and among the American People to ban the symbols of the confederacy from any military bases. Army, navy, air force, marine. Everybody is behind that. There has been some controversy, particularly, i think, among white southerners about renaming these bases. Its inevitable. 800,000 americans died so we could end this moral depravity of slavery. Does trump want to stand behind that sort of thing . So he you would think he put himself in an untenable political position, but he has such support among some americans for some reason, his calculus is this is a good political move to make. I think senator Mitch Mcconnell and mccarthy in the house must be appalled that this carefully fought out, compromised, gigantic bill just got thrown over the cliff. Theyve got a problem. They have to pass that bill, and they have to do it this week. General, thank you so much for your frankness. Have a happy holiday. Thank you. Same to you, lindsey. The pain of this pandemic is being felt in ghcommunities all across the country. Ill talk with the mayor of one major city in the south with how hes handling the current situation. [ engines revving ] its amazing to see them in the wild like th shhh. [ engine revs ] for those who were born to ride, theres progressive. [ engine revs ] i and nothing has really worked mifor me. Until now. Nd years. With nurtec odt, i have felt such relief. 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Right now hospitalizations are at a new record high nearing 120,000. The Health Care System is on the brink in multiple states as the cdc says up to 92,000 additional americans could die by midjanuary. Nbcs Erin Mclaughlin is in los angeles with the latest. Reporter the number of hospitalizations across the United States have more than doubled since november. States are seeing an exponential raise in cases. Here in california, the first state to surpass 2 million total cases. As people are moving for the holidays, theres a real concern this situation is only going to get worse. The day before christmas, Health Care Workers fear this may be the eve of yet another dire surge. The trend lines just continue to go up. Theres no sign of a plateau. Reporter with cases spiking across california. Icus at nearly 99 capacity. Patients spending Christmas Eve in hallways, conference rooms, even parking lots. Everyone is a different shape, size, age, background. We cant predict who is going to come in next. Reporter the holiday threatens to push the system even further over the edge. This is one christmas where that large gathering should not happen. If it does happen, people that you love may not be there for the next gathering. Reporter 11 states have seen an over 60 rise in deaths. As new yorks Governor Cuomo says hospitals should Start Testing for the new possibly more contagious strain. Already detected in the uk. If it is here, i want to know exactly where it is. And then isolate it immediately. Reporter tennessee, nurses say theyre seeing patients die on every shift. And in utah, they are watching each other fight for survival. I actually had the wonderful privilege of taking care of her and being her nurse for quite a few nights, and it was hard. Reporter after caring for Covid Patients for months, nurse jill holker is now on life support, battling the virus herself while waiting for a double lung transplant. Shes fighting for her life and we cant really do much about it. We just have to hope and pray and just think the best every day. Reporter amidst the uncertainty and despair. Santa claus brings christmas cheer. Passing out gifts in the neonatal icu, including tiny clay molds of the babys feet. Powerful gesture of hope and care. My one wish for this season, were only going to get through this okay if we abandon selfishness. Reporter the cdc announced it has vaccinated 1 Million People receiving those critical first doses so far. But thats far short of their earlier projections of 20 million doses. 9 million doses shipped. Authorities say they plan to pick up pace in the coming weeks and months. Lindsey . Erin, thanks. Lets bring in medical contributor dr. Nahid bhadelia, Infectious Diseases physician and medical director of Boston Medical Center special pathogens unit. Dr. Bhadelia, whats the impact here with so many hospitals on the brink on patient care. Will people who need a bed have one and what about people who go to the hospital for noncovid reasons . This is a great perspective because we are 120,000 hospitalizations. Even here in my own state of massachusetts, the states now rolling back reopening so that 25 capacity because we dont want to get to that position. It depends on what state youre in. There are states that are who have severely restrained constrained icus. It doesnt matter if you come in for something else, if those beds are taken, then theres fewer beds available. For everybody else who requires care. The other thing massachusetts has done because of this growing number that other states have done is theyve asked hospitals to reschedule, delay or cancel nonessential elective surgeries. Most surgeries are elective. Thats still medical care. Thats the secondary impact, as you see those hospital beds fill up, other issues for other care, you know, other patients coming for other services may not potentially be able to get that care or may see their care delayed. That really is the worry with overwhelmed hospitals. The death toll is the worry, too. The cdc expecting it to rise from around 327,000 right now to up to 419,000 in the next three weeks. What more can and should be done right now as we brace for this . Well, i think at the individual level, lindsey, you heard the other doctor mention his only wish. My only wish for this Holiday Season is for us to realize that our actions are having an impact. I had a friend call me this morning because one of her family members is in the icu. This is touching all of us. One of my cousins passed away earlier this year from covid as more of us see this disease roll out. All of us are being touched by it. Dont travel if you dont have to. Wear those masks. Dont gather in groups. Keep that distance because what weve seen is around 400,000 more americans will die this year compared to last year. This 15 increase in the rate of mortality. Thats a lot of family members. A lot of loved ones. This year is when youre going to step back those celebrations so that to we can potentially celebrate with more people next year who make it through the season. Im so sorry to hear about your cousin. And its so true that you may think that your actions only impact you, but it impacts so many other people. Lets turn now to those concerns across the pond. That new strain in the uk. United airlines now says, hey, if youre flying from the uk into the u. S. , you have to test negative. Whats your assessment of the risks and the response here in the u. S. So far . I think the most important thing, you know, is that we need to limit travel and make sure that we clear that travel with that testing in quarantine. In general, individuals need to make that choice. If they dont have to travel right now, they shouldnt. But getting those negative tests is one step. The other would be to quarantine people as they come to this side of the pond before they start mingling. Its not just the uk, right . Were seeing south africa has identified another strain that they think might increase transmissibility. So someone could, for example, move from uk to paris and take a flight from paris to boston, right . The important thing is not just ensuring that we get that testing and quarantine underplace but increasing our ability to detect those strains. As you heard Governor Cuomo say, we need to start looking and sequencing those strains so that we pick up those strains if they cross the borders or if theyre already within our borders. Dr. Bhadelia, i know you have already gotten your vaccine. What are your thoughts right now on how operation warp speed has been rolling out so far . Some are saying the vaccinations are moving slower than they had hoped. Yeah, you just heard that. Theres a big difference between 1 million and 20 million that was projected as a pop tetentia goal. Those are frontline Health Care Workers, other folks who require that, folks in longterm care facilities who should have been getting vaccinated. Youre taking such a big endeavor in rolling it out. The thing that bothers me, that covid relief act has bill has about 6 billion for Vaccine Distribution. And that could be so helpful for states to start rushing and ramping up this effort. And we really need that to get going. The bill that is now stalled. Dr. Nahid bhadelia, thank you. The mayor of jackson, mississippi, on the growing covid crisis in his community. First, the east coast bracing for a winter wallop. The storm system churning through the midatlantic and up to new england bringing heavy rain, wind and some snow for some. Its already going to be a white christmas. And then some in minnesota, part of the states getting pounded by a blizzard. 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Jackson, the states largest city, will continue to keep city hall and other city buildings closed. Its an attempt to bring the spread under control. I want to bring in the mayor of jackson. Mayor, thank you for joining us today. And i want to ask you, are the restrictions youve put in place enough . How can jackson avoid the postholiday surge . First and foremost, happy Christmas Eve to you and to everyone else. And what were trying to do on the ground is implement the very basic measures that we can, considering all the surrounding circumstances and what is necessary to keep our people safe. We have made the decision to close city facilities, not only in the interest of those that frequent those facilities, but also in the interest of our city employees. I do believe that having more stringent protocol across the city would be beneficial but that is also weighed by the ineffectiveness of congress to pass legislation that provides Financial Relief for private businesses. Businesses that we all know should be closed at this time in the interest of peoples safety and the interest of public safety. Lets talk about that stimulus relief bill thats stalled right now. Were you disappointed to see state and local aid didnt make it in . You know, at this point, people are feeling the weight of the lack of leadership. People are frustrated. I believe that, first and foremost, it fails to truly recognize the severity in which people are suffering financially. And we need a relief package which truly holds that into account but also its past due. Its something our residents that im seeing firsthand are in need of several months to weeks ago. Vaccine distribution. There was supposed to be some money in the covid relief bill for that as well. Who is going first and how has the process been going so far . We have seen the repercussions of the thanksgiving holiday. Prior to thanksgiving, we were having about 300 confirmed cases a week and now were approximately at about 500 more than 530 cases per week. Weve seen the ineffectiveness of state and federal leadership. The governor has made a decision to do a county by county mask mandate to the extent that it is now at 90 of the counties within the state of mississippi, and i think it appears to be some ideological position, not to have a statewide mask mandate. We have to recognize that we have interconnected communities and to fail to adhere to or to address that and understand that people travel from city to city and county to county and the understanding that we need a statewide mandate that will keep people safe is beyond me and i dont understand the rationale behind it. You guys went from 300 cases a week to 530 cases a week since thanksgiving. Pretty remarkable. Mayor lumumba, theres a lot of skepticism among minority communities to take the vaccine, justifiably so because of the history of malpractice. Are you and your colleagues having discussions at the local level about any kind of campaigns or what you guys can do to talk to your constituents and encourage them to get vaccinated . The city will certainly step up in any capacity that we can in order to make certain that we, you know, stress the efficacy of the vaccine. That we work with credible messengers throughout the community in order to spread and disseminate that message. But we are also looking for more information on the state level to, you know, to articulate what the actual Distribution Strategy will be. I think that its important that we spread that information and communicate that early on so that we can be effective in getting the message, the word out and the vaccine to people who need it most. Quickly, mayor, what are your plans for tonight and tomorrow . I will be here, small gathering of just my immediate family. You know, enjoying the holiday, taking in our traditions. We certainly regret that we cant be with the larger portion of our family. But i think that it is important that we love each other from a distance at this time. Well said, mayor. Jackson mississippi mayor lumumba, thank you for your time, sir. Merry christmas. Weve got a new way to look at americas growing poverty crisis. First, a starstudded rendition of a holiday classic. twas the night before christmas when all through the hour, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimly with chair in hopes that st. Nicholas soon would be there p. Prin there. They had quite a bit of help. Famous brits including dame judy dench, daniel craig all joined in. The recording was made to benefit struggling actors in britains film industry. Well be right back. 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Professor sullivan, what made you decide to do this realtime estimate of poverty in the u. S. . Yeah, bruce and i have been working on measuring the wellbeing of the poor here in the United States for well over a decade. One of the novel things that has arrived with the pandemic is the need for realtime information. They were not armed with the information, usually we get official poverty estimates with a lag of over a year. We wont have estimates on poverty in the United States for 2020 until september of 2021. So what we did was construct estimates using consensus data that could be updated on a monthly basis to provide Accurate Information on what is happening throughout the pandemic. It highlights the importance of your work. Professor meyer, in your estimates you have have you noticed anything in particular, anything very surprising that stood out to you when you were studying this . Less things that were surprising than things that we expected. There was much bigger increases in poverty since june for black americans, for americans with a high school education. Or less those are the things that stood out to us. What can be learned and what can be acted upon . We have congress right now that reached this stimulus bill. The president says he will veto it because the foreign aide is too high and direct payments are too low. Right now what can and should be done based on the data that you compiled . Yeah, so, one of the interesting take aways from our estimates is how it speaks to the urgency that many families are facing. We have seen poverty rise every month since june. Usually theyre fating the loss of government benefits. There is a relationship between how the government responds and what were finding. When the government passed the cares act we saw abovers falling as a result. As the benefits expired poverty started to rise. This really speaks to the urgency first and foremost to pass another relief package. With there are not good options in the labor market. Did everyone at home hear that . I mean the need went down because of the cares act and more people fell into poverty when that money dried up. Professor sullivan, i know youre looking at the data, youre looking at numbers, but who are these people . Youre looking at census data and youre saying many of the people who fall into poverty are people who use government aide, what do we know about the demographics . One of the clear drivers are the people that lost their job due to the pandemic. They are unemployed, they have given up looking for work because of the lack of strong prospects. The groups hit the hardest tend to be groups that are struggling to make senends meet before the pandemic. They see sharper rises in poverty since june than those with more education. That is due to which tries are affected by the pandemic. Some had to curtail operations for the pandemic. Professor meyer, eight Million People entering poverty since the summer. Your modelling appears to be farely new. Have we seen this in the tracking of data and the study, have we seen anything like this before . No, the increases in the last five months poverty went up 2. 54 Percentage Points in our estimates as the year to year increase that is on record back in 1979 to 1980. This increase in the last five months is really something that we just have not seen before. Very Remarkable Research and thank you so much for your time. Thank you for being with us this hour. Happy holidays, our coverage continues right after the break. E continues right after the break. Good morning, mr. Sun. Good morning, blair. [ chuckles ] whoo. Im gonna grow big and strong. Yes, you are. Im gonna get this place all clean. Ill give you a hand. And im gonna put lisa on crutches wait, what . Said shes gonna need crutches. She fell pretty hard. You might want to clean that up, girl. Excuse us. 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