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But if we did slow down or didnt do so many. Lets say instead of 25 million, we did 5 million tests, wed be very low in cases and wouldnt everyone say, thats wonderful . Joining me now is my coanchor for the next two hours, katy tur. Like we said at the top, its a busy day for us. Tempting to go down that one rabbit hole on testing, but were going to hold off. What do you got . Theres also the private funeral for Rayshard Brooks which is just beginning at the Ebenezer Baptist church in atlanta. Brooks was killed by Atlanta Police earlier this month in a wendys parking lot. Martin luther king jr. Once preached at this church and his daughter bernice king is expected to deliver remarks during todays service. Last night, crowds of people waited in the rain to pay respects to brooks at a public memorial. But, chuck, theres a lot going on. Certainly whats going on on capitol hill is gaining a lot of attention and what fauci is saying. What do you have . That is. Plus Police Reform as well, which, of course, is a big topic thats taking place on the hill today, too. More on the house hearing, though, on the virus with the top Infectious Disease experts basically giving us a briefing that we havent gotten as a country in quite some time. We mentioned dr. Anthony fauci. He was joined by assistant hhs secretary admiral bret guar and the cdc director. They warned against the further spread of the virus and dr. Fauci responded when asked if the administration pressured them to reduce testing as the president seemed to hint at saturday night. I, as a member of the task force, and my colleagues on the task force, to my knowledge, i know for sure that to my knowledge none of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That just is a fact. In fact, we will be doing more testing. Joining us now, our nbc news capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. Like i said before, in some ways, todays hearing feels like the countrys Coronavirus Briefing basically that we havent gotten in 60 days. So were getting a lot of answers to questions weve had. You and i have had. Members of congress have had. And its coming at a time when this virus is spiking in other parts of the country. Yeah, thats right. And dr. Fauci and the other panelists have had a couple of news nuggets. Some of it cautiously optimistic. You heard from dr. Fauci that he thinks if we do indeed get a vaccine, that it could still be done by the end of this year, early next year and the chances they are taking are chances we might spend a ton of money on it. Not things that would risk peoples safety. We heard from the fda commissioner that were in a much stronger position on ppe, if theres a second wave. Well have better availability of masks. Better availability of ventilators. All the things that hospitals need to handle the increasing cases. But the big glaring red light in all of this has been the spike in cases we are seeing in other parts of the country. And dr. Fauci was very clear that just because the death rates have thus far been lower than we saw earlier on in the pandemic, that may not always be the case. Take a listen to this important point. Deaths always lag considerably behind cases. You might remember at the time that new york was in their worst situation where the deaths were going up and yet the cases were starting to go down, the deaths only came down multiple weeks later. So youre seeing more cases now while the deaths are going down. The concern is, if those cases then infect people who wind up getting sick and going to the hospital, it is conceivable you may see the deaths going up. So i think its too early to say because the deaths are going down. I think of that in the context of my home state of texas where just yesterday the governor was acknowledging the problem with increased testing. A lot more cases in texas. He was saying with the death rate remaining relatively low in texas, and so this is the kind of thing to watch out for in all those spiking states. Not to be celebrating what looks like higher case numbers when you could have this sort of tsunami of hospitalizations and deaths that follow that later on. And again, you talk to the experts and this is the memorial day surge and were three weeks beyond that. So we know this feels like a rough summer for the sunbelt states if june is any hint. Garrett haake getting us started on capitol hill. Thank you. Katy, speaking of the sunbelt, over to you. Yeah, the president is going to arizona. Hes on his way there right now. Thats where new coronavirus cases are dramatically on the rise. The state just recorded a new daily record. Nearly 3,600 new cases reported today. It is part of a steady increase in new cases thats been going on over the past month in arizona. The president will tour a portion of newly constructed border wall in yuma, and then hes going to speak to young voters at a church in phoenix. So lets bring in nbc News Reporter Vaughn Hillyard in phoenix. Theres a lot here. The church has promised that everything is going to be safe within the church and then also, the mayor saying that she has spoken to the campaign and told them this event does not comply with cdc guidelines, and it is not safe. You shouldnt be holding it. Exactly, katy. We should mention first hes about to get off air force one in yuma to tour that border wall construction. I was talking with an official from the Pima County Health department who tells me two of the workers working on that very wall have already tested positive for covid themselves. So come back up. Were now here in maricopa in phoenix. Ill let you see the site for yourself. You already have several thousand folks on hand here to see the president who is still a good six hours away from here. You mentioned, katy, the city of phoenix mayor implemented a mask order here in the city and said that she urged the president of the United States to follow that himself. But as youve just seen here, you have one pen here. Were going to make our way. Im going to show you where the second line is. Theres maybe 1 out of 30 people that are actually wearing a mask here. And when youre talking about this y is the president coming . This comes down to the politics of it. How do you run a president ial campaign in the middle of covid . The president , the reality is, needs to win arizona. And right now joe biden is neck and neck in polling here. In the Trump Campaign, theyre very well aware they need to shore up support among his base of support here. So thats why you see on 109degree day here in the heart of phoenix, katy, you see thousands of folks not Wearing Masks, prepared to see the president. You mentioned this church. This is dream city church. The pastor of the church, he released a video just two days ago suggesting that they had implemented a new ionization system that would kill 99. 9 of covid virus. Of course, that is not true, and i just got off the phone with the maker of that very system. And he said it was misunderstood by this pastor. Its not cdc or fda approved at this point. When youre talking to folks here, they said, you know, look. Were here to see the president , and quite frankly are not believing that the masks are an important factor here. But youve said it. This president is coming into town on the day arizona recorded its record of new covid cases. But also today sets a record for the most hospitalizations, the most ventilators in use and the most icu beds in use here in the state of arizona. Katy . Vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. Chuck, the president and the mixed messaging, him not wearing a mask, him not questioning masks, talking about how wearing a mask is a political statement against him. What youre seeing the effects of, is that line. That vaughn was standing in front of. Nobody, very few people, almost no one, wearing a mask and very close together in a state where cases are dramatically on the rise. Its incredible. I had the acting dhs secretary on the show sunday and he kept talking about how much they continue to push social distancing and mask wearing. Except the president of the United States. He is setting an example. Theres one person thats created the illusion that theres a that the illusion that wearing a mask is somehow a political symbol. And its the president. No one else has done this. He has sort of willed this into a political divide that i dont think was there at the beginning. Speaking of virus, well stay out west. California is also seeing a steady rise. Governor newsom announced nearly 36 of the states cases have been confirmed in the last 14 days alone. California was on the very early end of this. Now think about how bad this recent spike is. This state is also seeing a spike in hospitalizations and icu patients. Meanwhile, l. A. County Health Director revealed shes received numerous threats in response to the countys stayathome orders. Californias challenge and the nations was summed up by dr. Fauci on capitol hill. Weve been hit. Weve been hit badly. Anybody who looks at the numbers, weve had now over 120,000 deaths, and weve had 2. 5 million infections. So its a serious situation. We were going down from 30,000 to 25,000 to 20,000 and now we sort of stayed about flat and now were going up. A couple of days ago, 30,000 new infections. Bottom line, mr. Chairman, its a mixed bag. Some good, and some now we have a problem with. Lets bring in nbc medical correspondent dr. John torres. Dr. Torres, when you think about the leadin about what happened in california in l. A. County. They decided early on to keep their stayathome order in place. And at the time, their numbers were fairly low. There was some criticism. Now it looks like a smart precaution. Chuck, youre right. Extremely smart precaution, and the fact that they are getting these threats, thats disturbing. Its very unfortunate because as Health Physicians we try to make decisions based on science and data not politics or the current agendas that are out there. Even the popular will. Its things based on science. What we do know is these masks can help cut down your risk of getting coronavirus or passing it onto somebody else. What we dont understand, for some reason its turned into this polarized issue that, again, i dont quite understand how this is happening. And the thing i equate it to is for decades weve seen those signs. No shoes, no shirt, no service. Dont think twice about it. Now this face mask issue which can be protecting us from coronavirus but also its turned into a big issue where people dont want to wear it for whatever reasons. Its helpful. It can help prevent coronavirus. But this is certain lly putting Health Authorities in tough decisions. They have to make these decisions and statements. They need to be protected, chuck. Dr. Torres, the president is making it political and during the hearing today, congresswoman anna eshoo pleaded with dr. Hahn to come out and make a Public Statement and say, listen, this antibiotic or hydroxychloroquine that the president was touting is not effective. And thats what the studies show. To make a statement showing, heres what you need to do to protect yourself, to combat the politicalization of this disease. How effective and helpful to you think it would february our Health Officials came out more publicly, more forcefully and set the parameters for what this virus can do, the threats that it poses and what is not political about it . Katy, youre exactly right. That would be extremely helpful to have one entity in particular taking the reins on this and saying these are the sciencebased answers driven by data that you need to understand about coronavirus and how to protect yourself. Part of the problem has been since the beginning of the pandemic is getting that mixed message and oftentimes not getting the message. Some of this information has been buried. Some has been released late at night and were not able to get that information on a consistent basis from one person of authority who can tell us from a science perspective, from a medical perspective, this is what you need to do. Not from a political or popular agenda, but heres exactly the answer to the questions you have as to how to keep yourself, how to keep your family and how to keep your Community Safe and hopefully Going Forward, thats where we start heading towards because were going to have the second wave come. Well have more issues in the late summer and in the fall. We need to be prepared for that, katy. Dr. Geortorres, we heard dr. Fauci warn the death rate can be a lagging indicator. Are we seeing signs that maybe we are at least improving outcomes of hospitalizations or is this simply too soon to tell . Chuck, we are improving outcomes. Weve learned over the past three or four months how to treat people. What works. What doesnt work. Youve seen the hydroxychloroquine not working at all. Remdesivir not working as well as wed like it to. Weve seen dexamethasone seems to be working fairly well at keeping certain people from dying from coronavirus. And so were learning how to treat people. But at the same time, the cases have come down. They are starting to go up. Hospitalizations are going up. Deaths are probably going to go up. So well probably goat the stage where more people are going to die from this, although we know how to handle this better. That virus is still out there. Its still dangerous. And its still everywhere and its going to start spreading again if we dont do the things we need to do to keep safe. Feels like its already spreading. I dont know if again, it matters anymore. Feels like it hasnt really stopped. Dr. John torres heading up our nbc medical unit. Thank you, sir. Katy, over to you. Chuck, up next Senate Democrats say republican senator tim scotts Police Reform bill is, quote, woefully inadequate. Were going to take you to that. Also, were live in atlanta where Rayshard Brooks is being laid to rest today. Youre watching msnbc. When you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. So you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one. For small prices, you can build big dreams. Spend less, get way more. Shop everything home at wayfair today. So heres to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable, longlasting protection. Because your strength is supported by ours. Depend. The only thing stronger than us, is you. 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Com Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris and cory beerkooker announced m Senate Democrats will not be supporting moving the bill moving allowing republicans to move their bill into debate. The tim scott Police Reform. In a letter to Mitch Mcconnell, the democrats write, well not meet this moment by holding a floor vote on the justice act nor can we simply amend this bill which is so threadbare it does not provide a proper baseline for negotiations. This bill is not salvageable and we need bipartisan talks to get a constructive starting point. The senate is expected to take a procedural vote to start debate on this bill tomorrow. It needs 60 votes to pass which is looking less likely, but not out of the question. Doug jones say democrat who said he will vote in favor of starting the bill. A lot of this, youll get a lot more democrats to jump on board if Mitch Mcconnell would open up the amendment process, but thats something hes unlikely to do. I spoke with senator coons yesterday and asked him what the likelihood of this bill getting across the finish line in the next couple of weeks or even this year. And he said he doesnt think its going to happen in this administration. So well see what happens there. But thats not a hopeful sign. Chuck, lets go down to atlanta. A celebration of life service is beginning for Rayshard Brooks at atlantas historic Ebenezer Baptist church. The 27yearold husband, father and stepfather was shot and killed by an Atlanta Police officer earlier this month. Nbcs rehema ellis is there in atlanta. What is it like there today . Its very solemn here today, katy. Only about 200 people are allowed inside of the church that seats some 2,000 people. Its a private service for Rayshard Brooks. One of the things they wanted to make certain they could do is social distance for safety and theyre also encouraging everyone and requiring everyone to wear masks. We should tell you, also in attendance a short while ago, the service began, the mayor of atlanta, Keisha Lance Bottoms arrived, as did stacey abrams, onetime gubernatorial candidate and the District Attorney who has charged the officers here in connection with the death of Rayshard Brooks. Theres a jumbotron outside so that people can see and hear the ceremony as its under way. And people have been coming up and saying one of the reasons they came here for was to show support for the family and also to continue to register their discontent, if you will, for how he died and how other young black men and women have died in police custody. Katy . Rehema ellis there, thank you very much. Chuck . Lets move to seattle where mayor jenny durkin says the city will be shutting down the capitol hill organized protests. The c. H. O. P. Zone as its been called. Two weekend shootings, including one that left one man dead. Officers will return to the protester occupied district in the, quote, near future calling the recent violence a distraction from the thousands of peaceful protesters. Its sentiment that seattles police chief echoed yesterday. Groups of individuals engaging in shootings, a rape, assaults, burglary, arson and property destruction. And i have the Police Reports right here. Im not making it up. These things have happened. The announcement comes as a revised 2020 budget tackling some of the protesters demands goes before the Seattle City Council this week including Additional Resources for Community Engagement and policing. An exact timeline as to when the c. H. O. P. Zone will be cleared has not been announced but clearly the c. H. O. P. Zones days are numbered. Katy, over to you. Chuck, up next, we asked the more than a dozen members of congress who attended President Trumps tulsa rally if they are getting tested for coronavirus. What they told us after the break. 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The october 15th debate will now be held in miami. Which has hosted a couple in recent president ial cycles. Katy, over to you. Two more members of president Trumps Campaign staff who attended the tulsa rally have tested positive for the coronavirus. Bringing the total number to eight. Earlier today, he was asked, the president was, whether he said he was whether he was actually joking when he said at the rally that he told members of his administration to slow down testing on coronavirus. Were you just kidding or do you have a plan to slow down testing . I dont kid. Let me make it clear. We have got the greatest Testing Program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world, and we have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases. I dont kid. Interesting. He also said he was kidding when he asked russia to look for Hillary Clintons emails in 2016. Numerous public Health Officials have said that spikes in confirmed cases around the country are not just because of increased testing. Back in oklahoma late sunday, the state Health Department urged anyone attending large events to go get tested. 13 members of congress attended the president s tulsa rally. They are on the screen right here. Nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt asked each of them if they plan on getting tested. Kasie hunt joins us now. So are they following the recommendation and doing so . Well, katy, so far the response to the questions from our nbc news Capitol Hill Team have been, i would say, muted. This doesnt seem to be a topic that many of these members really want to engage in. We have gotten a couple of responses. Senator tom cotton, you saw him maskless at that rally in tulsa. His office says he is monitoring his symptoms and being cautious, their word. If he has any symptoms, they say hell seek a test. So far he doesnt have any. Senator jim inhofe of oklahoma was also at that rally. He told one of my colleagues over on the senate side that he does plan to get tested once hes through the sixday window that they say means that the test will be as accurate as possible. Were also optimistic that we may hear from senator langford about his plans to get tested or not, although weve not gotten a definitive response from his office as yet. For many of these other members who attended, we havent heard anything at all. And i think this speaks to the challenge and why, you know, when the president tries to create his own reality by saying, well, we have the best testing. We have the most testing. Thats why we have all of these cases. Thats directly contradicting thousands of americans Actual Experience in trying to get a coronavirus test. These tests still do not seem readily available to people. It has certainly been changing in some areas. There is more access to testing. But many areas are still really struggling. Our colleague Vaughn Hillyard has been reporting some of the struggles out of arizona to try to figure out how to get a test. For a lot of members of congress, if you think about it, the headline in their local paper saying, oh, i got a coronavirus test when many of their constituents still are unable to access them is a little politically difficult. Youll remember, in fact, mcconnell and Speaker Pelosi rejected one of those fast testing machines that the white house is using every day that President Trump offered essentially saying were not going to take away resources from our constituents who are still struggling to get tests. So that may be part of what you see going on here, katy. Even though youre right to point out that the example and the guidance from the cdc is to do this. There is, i think, some concern simply because we have been falling down so much on the testing since the very beginning of this, katy. I will just also mention, senator tom cotton says if he has symptoms hell go get tested. Not everybody has symptoms and you cannot have any symptoms, still have the disease and be a spreader of that disease. So the test is shouldnt be contingent upon whether you have symptoms. It should be contingent upon whether you put yourself in a potentially harmful or situation where you could have been exposed, which is what the cdc recommendation or what the Health Recommendation is there. Kasie hunt, what is it like right now on capitol hill . Is everybody Wearing Masks . Whats it look like . Its a very strange scene. Were actually in cannon rotunda on the house side and maybe two or three other people here in an area that normally would be packed with camera crews like ours and this is a scene thats replayed in all of these hallways where normally you know, people are easily rubbing elbows. Theres packs of reporters surrounding members of congress. Thats simply not the case anymore because we have to follow the social distancing guidelines just as everyone else does. And the majority of the capitol hill workforce is teleworking. The house of representatives has not physically been in washington hardly at all since this pandemic began. I will say mask wearing seems to be the order of the day. Especially the senate has been in session. They have been working, having meetings and lunches. Republicans have done more inperson gatherings than democrats have. Democrats have participated more by telephone. But Mitch Mcconnell has been out there in public when he went home to kentucky he said wear a mask. Youre protecting older americans. Theres a lot of atrisk members of congress. So thankfully that seems to be at least for the daytoday operations of the 100 members of the u. S. Senate, they seem to be following the rules. I think the house, as weve seen from some of these more conservative house members, may be another question entirely, katy. Kasie hunt, thank you very much. Chuck . Up next, it is primary day in kentucky. We are live in louisville at the only polling location in the states largest county. Where there are usually more than 250. Yet another awkward preview of whats going to be a november election month. Youre watching msnbc. Ly free money. Its an easy way to earn cashback on the stuff im already buying. When you have a child and theyre constantly growing out of clothing, earning cashback from rakuten just makes everything easier. Sometimes its 3 sometimes its 8 but youre always getting cashback. The way cashback works on rakuten is so they get a commission from the store and then they share that commission with me. And you have money, more money to spend because you got both free money. Go to rakuten. Com and sign up today for a 10 bonus. For people with Heart Failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. Entresto helps improve your hearts ability to pump blood to the body. Dont take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. Dont take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if youve had angioedema with an ace or arb. The most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. Ask your doctor about entresto. Texas Governor Greg Abbott expressing concerns about the rise in coronavirus cases and hospitalization across texas. In a briefing monday, abbott did not offer any policy proposals to curb the rising cases. Instead folks saying on the voluntary measures of Wearing Masks and social distancing. I know that some people feel that wearing a mask is inconvenient or that its like an infringement of freedom. But i also know that wearing a mask will help us to keep texas open. You know, its interesting to hear the governor say this, katy, because you can sense that he wishes there was one more thing he could do and hes not yet ready because hes got to his politics are one way. You feel as if the politics on that one might be getting in the way of exactly what hed like to be asking residents to do. But just lets take a step back and consider the situation were in now, chuck. Theres a pandemic. Health officials, doctors, people who study masks. Everybody is saying, please, just wear a mask. A cloth covering over your face to protect you from other people. And protect other people from you, et cetera. Just do it all and we can get through this together. And there is a section of our country thats politicizing this. There are elected leaders bending over backwards to plead with their constituents to get them to do something that helps them. That makes them safer. Its just a remarkable time were living in. We always wondered, would we come together during a crisis in this country . Would the political divide close . What were seeing right now is, no, theres a part of that political divide that will remain regardless of what we are facing. But not to get on too much of a rant. There are also primary elections being held today in kentucky, new york and virginia. After all, if its tuesday, in kentucky, the governor is predicting record turnout in voter participation. But fewer than 200 polling locations will be available today after the state dramatically expanded access to voting by mail. In a typical election year, there are 3,700 polling places available. Dramatically less. Joining us from louisvilles Exposition Center is nbcs shaquille brewster. Its the only polling location in the states largest county. Shaquille, it looks pretty busy there right now. What have you been seeing . You really have been seeing no lines here. Ill show you around because this has been probably the busiest that its been since we arrived here. And you see people there milling about. But its not that many people. Its a constant flow of people. People are Wearing Masks. And if you come this way, youll see this is the center that has about 350 individual polling booths or voting booths. And you see people using these right now but theres a whole other half of the room thats not being used. So its not that busy. And that goes to show theres very little thats typical about this elerks. It was supposed to happen in late may. Got postponed to today. And the reason why youre not seeing this flood of people right here is because most people have already voted thanks to an agreement struck between the democratic governor of the state and the republican secretary of the state. But you did hear accusations of Voter Suppression because there was a dramatic reduction in polling locations. Thats something the democratic governor pushed back on aggressively. Listen to a little bit of him defending his state. Weve had mailin voting for the first time in our history. I think thats the opposite of Voter Suppression. Weve had noexcuse early voting for the first time in our history. Thats the opposite of Voter Suppression. 170,000 people had their Voting Rights restored which is the opposite of Voter Suppression. Now that doesnt fit in twitter very easily, and i get that. And, yes, there can be concerns about one polling location. I dont think its being done intentionally to suppress the vote. At the end of the day, i believe well have more people vote in this primary than ive ever seen. And talking to voters as theyve been coming out, a lot of whats been driving voters to the polls today is that race to take on Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell. Its amy mcgrath, a marine Fighter Pilot going up against Charles Booker. One thing you saw was amy mcgrath, many thought she had this race on lock. She raised 40 million in this race, but Charles Booker tapping into the energy and the momentum that youve been seeing. The activism after the killing of breonna taylor. After the death of george floyd. Tapping into the energy of protesters really has created a lot of momentum for himself. He got endorsed by the two largest newspapers here in kentucky. And he also has gotten Many National endorsements. Bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, congresswoman alexandria ocasiocortez. So you are seeing her having to face an unexpected challenge, a race thats closer than many people expected when were talking about this a couple of weeks ago. Katy . A really interesting twist in this primary. Shaquille brewster in kentucky, thank you very much. Chuck . With some voters having a harder time finding a place to vote, there are concerns about Voter Suppression. Joining us is Legal Defense and Educational Fund jennae nelson. It is interesting on this issue of mailin voting. For what its worth, i know that even the democratic campaigns, theyd certainly prefer early voting over mailin voting. If youre going to expand Voting Rights, i always hear the thing that most advocates want first is expanded hours to go vote meaning early voting two or three weeks in advance more so than mailin voting and mailin is the next level down. How do you guys see it when it comes to which type of voting you want expanded first . We want it all. It really is a both and. We need to expand the capacity for voters to be able to access the ballot in every possible way. Especially against the backdrop of a pandemic. We want to expand early voting. We want to make sure that election day is a federal holiday so that people do not have to choose between work and voting. We want to make sure that we have expansive absentee ballot options for voters as well. Particularly those who may have preexisting conditions which we know disproportionately affect black and brown communities. We want to ensure that anyone with a disability, anyone who is potentially vulnerable because of the pandemic has no excuse absentee balloting that can ensure their safety. No one should have to choose between their health and their right to vote. We want to make sure that there are expansive opportunities for all voters. And that means making sure that there are also ample inperson voting opportunities. What were seeing that is incredibly disturbing in so many states, and kentucky is a perfect example, that when you expand mailin voting, you expand absentee balloting, theres a decrease, a shrinkage in inperson opportunities. And that really should not be the case. Many voters are still capable and very interested in voting in person. You cant shrink the voting opportunities in person from 3,700 polling sites to a mere 200 to service a state the size of kentucky. That is a recipe for a problem. And we want to make sure that we head towards november, we learn lessons from these primary elections and we ensure that we have as many opportunities to vote as possible in the november election. Lets talk about november. The Southern Poverty Law Center writes that Voting Rights advocates are prepping for whats being called the perfect storm in 2020. What is is there a sense of distrust between, lets focus on the black community and the government . And do they feel like if they are voting absentee ballot, if they are voting early, is there a feeling that those votes will be counted . Listen, its quite understandable that given the massive amount of misinformation that surrounds our politics, that surrounds elections that there would be some wariness about almost any voting change or any technology that exists to aid voters. But what were saying is that voters should be prepared to vote. They must ensure that they ask for absentee balloting if thats the method that theyre choosing. That they understand the deadline for postmarking that ballot. That we are prepared to go out to the polls and turn out as robustly as possible in november in the primaries that still exist before then so that there are fewer opportunities to suppress the vote. There are many pending bills that can protect the vote, and we hope that they will get passed before november. There are ways to protect voters like the Voting Rights advancement act that restores the Voting Rights act to its full capacity and does even more. And this happens to be the anniversary of the shelton county decision this week that gutted the Voting Rights act. This is the time to bring more attention to restoring those protections so that voters can have Greater Trust in elected officials. This is the time to move forward with the shield act and the heroes act which brings more funding to help jurisdictions in advance of the november election respond to the pandemic, respond to the new demands on Election Officials so that they can provide ample opportunities to vote on election day. This requires us to think about the level of foreign interference in our elections and to think about the shield act which actually creates a much more barriers to foreign interference in our elections. Theres ways to create or confidence in our election by passing the legislation thats pending. Thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it. Coming up police clash with protesters trying to take down a statue of Andrew Jackson near the white house prompting President Trump to threaten jailtime for anyone who vandalizes or tries to take down a federal monument. We are looking at longterm jail sentences for these vandals and these hoodlums and these anarchists and agitatoagitators. Call them whatever you want. Some people dont like that language, but thats what they are. Theyre bad people. They dont love our country. And theyre not taking down our monuments. Ive lost count of how many asthma attacks ive had. Ive been on and off oral steroids to manage my asthma. Does that sound normal to you . Its time for a nunormal with nucala. My nunormal fewer asthma attacks. My nunormal less oral steroids. Nucala is a oncemonthly addon injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. It targets and reduces eosinophils, a key cause of severe asthma. Nucala is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks and reduce the need for oral steroids. Nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. Allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. Infections that can cause shingles have occurred. Dont stop your corticosteroid medications unless told by your doctor. Tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Common side effects include headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. Ask your doctor about taking nucala at home. Learn about Financial Assistance at nucala. Com. Find your nunormal with nucala. President trump is threatening protesters with prison time for trying to topple problematic statues. The statements comes after protesters we are clear near the white house today. Reports on the ground indicate the protests were quiet and peaceful. Last night protesters were forcibly removed from Lafayette Park, where they tried to topple a statue of former president Andrew Jackson. Joining us is monica alba from the white house. Monica, what happened . Am i correct that secret service asked reporters to leave the white house grounds last night . Reporter yes, it was highly unusual. You dont normally see that when theres a security incident normally reports and staff are asked to stay inside until further instruction. The secret service concedes they mistold people to leave. That wasnt what was supposed to happen, but reporters who were here were asked to exit through a different gate than they normally come in. Thats because they had expanded the perimeter around Lafayette Park and around that statue of Andrew Jackson. As the skirmishes got more intense. Where he sees days of peaceful gatherings. The park had reopened, because you remember those ten or so days after the death of george floyd, you have had protesters in an organized fashion, but thousands of people came. Last night the skirmishes where they did try to topple the statue prompted park police and the secret service to use pepper spray, which they admitted to a lot quicker than they did a few weeks ago. Remember when they cleared the scare so the president could walk to st. Johns church. The present feels very strongly anyone who defaces one of these monuments or statues, should face a long time in prison. Hes saying he wants to take action even beyond laws that already exist. Take a listen to what he told reporters before he left for arizona. I will have an executive order shortly. All it will do is reinforce whats already there, but in a more uniform way. If these hoodlums come around and if the states cant handle it, we are ready, willing and able to help, as we did in minnesota. After four days they finally called, and we did a great job with the national guard. Reporter oftentimes when the president says he wants to do an executive order like he mentioned, its not clear how close to ready that is. The white house telling us they have no guidance or timeline for when it could be issue. Mea coalitions on air force one conditi what already exists he wants to continue to employ, that is that people who do destroy or try to take down these statues and monuments could face up to ten years in prison, katy. Ill just tell you that the perimeter again has been expanded. Lafayette park is once closed. There are several other statues throughout the park that could be targeted in the future by protesters. Notable hes using charged language look hoodlums. Monica, thank you very much. Coming up in our next hour, well be joined by the attorney for eight minnesota Corrections Officers who filed a complaint saying only white staff were allowed to guard Derek Chauvin, the Police Officer charged in the killing of george floyd. Youre watching msnbc. The tempurpedic breeze makes sleep. Feel. Cool. Because the tempurbreeze transfers heat away from your body. So you feel cool. Night after night. During the tempurpedic summer of sleep, save 500 on all tempurbreeze mattresses. 100 online car buying. Pedic carvanas had a lot of firsts. Car vending machines. And now, putting you in control of your financing. At carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your down payment and monthly payment. And these arent madeup numbers. 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Tears in the stomach or intestines and serious allergic reactions have happened. Dont let another morning go by without asking your doctor about the pill first prescribed for ra more than seven years ago. Xeljanz. Good afternoon. Im chuck todd. Its 2 00 p. M. Here in the east. 11 00 a. M. Inniuma, arizona, where the president just touched down. He will mark the completion of the border walls 200th mile. As the president visits the state, though, cases are spiking there. They have mid singleday highs for many days. The committee is serving as the countrys first Coronavirus Task force briefen for some time. Today dr. Anthony fauci pushed back on the suggestion that the president told him to slow down testing. None of us have ever been told to slow down on testing. That just is a fact. In fact, we will be doing more testing. Also is capitol hill today, fresh signs of trouble for the effort to pass bipar sat Police Reform. Well go to the senate. We bring in my coanchor for it is hour katy tur. A lot of moving parts to the day, a lot of events happening, and one related to this need for Police Reform. Rayshard brooks will be laid to rest. Last hour, Funeral Services got until way at the Ebenezer Baptist church where Martin Luther king jr. Preached. Attendees wore white, and bernice king is in attendens and will speak. Reverend Rafael Warnock will deliver the eulogy. A friend and coworker remembered rayshard as someone who tried desperately to turn his life around. Ray had overcome his circumstances. He was working hard to becoming the best provider, daretaker, community builder, father, husband, son, brother and relationship agent he could possibly be. The justice systems that exists made it fairly impossible for him to try to live a prosperous life well after he had paid his debt, the sum kept trying him in, grabbing ahold of him like quicksand. Lets turn back to arizona, though, where the president just arrived a moment ago. This afternoon he will visit yuma, to tour a newly constructed portion of border wall, but his visit comes as cases are surging in oklahoma, with nearly 3,600 new infections today. Joining us is jacob soboroff, also author of a new book. I know it is a tough subject. What is the latest out there in yuma, though. How is the city reacting to the president s visit . Reporter you know, katy, when he sees the new 200mile stretch of border wall, i can almost assure you thats not top of minds for residents here two workers confirmed local officials confirmed to von hilliard, that two workers working on the wall have contracted the coronavirus. Thats the context for the president s visit here today. I think he would like to reset politically and focus on this new border wall. When you talk about i want are immigration, this wall is not the only thing thats the top of the news. Coronavirus is also exploding inside i. C. E. Detention centers here as Julia Ainsley and i have reported on. So while the president would like to focus the nations attention on this, i think it will be hard to do. He should be here in a bit. Jacob, thank you very much. Chuck, back to you. Im not sure talking about the border wall is a way to improve fortunes inside arizona now. I do think when it comes to the messaging front, its offkil r offkilter. Four members of the task force are answering questions. Among those are dr. Anthony fauci, admiral bred giroir, and robert redfield, and stephen hahn. You should not congregate in crowds. You should keep distance, and even though many people for a variety of reasons do not listen to the not suggestion but plea to not congregate in across the board, some people are going to do that anyway. If you do, please wear a mask. As you wear a mask and youre in a situation where youre getting animated in a demonstration, a rally, wherever you are, avoid as best as possible the urge to pull your mask down and shout. Joining us from washington where the hearing is in a break, lee an co Leeann Caldwell is joining me. Have we gotten a good answer yet of why were the outlier in the globe . Reporter chuck, thats an excellent question. We havent gotten a direct answer on that yet specifically, but what dr. Fauci and the other members of the task force did do, is they contradicted the president and his message throughout. You just played the clip about mask. The president has not come out and said people should wear a mask. He himself is not wearing a mask. Dr. Fauci is saying people need to wear those masks. They are a big deal in containing the spread of the virus. Just this morning the president said he did in fact tell his officials to slow down testing. Dr. Fauci and the other officials said no, that did not happen. He never said that. On this issue of testing, the president says the reason there are more cases is because theres an increased amount of testing. Dr. Fauci said that is not the case. The reason theres more cases is because of community spread. While of course the coronavirus is the topic of this hearing, chuck, the president took central stage here. Listen to this Contentious Exchange with the republican representative f. Numerous times you have commented appeared contradicted what the president says. Do you think hes being judged fairly . It depends on what you mean. I work in the white house, and i believe that everyone there is doing everything they possibly can. Thank you. To do what they need to do. Reporter that relationship between dr. Fauci and the president has really broken down. Just moments ago dr. Redfield of the cdc said he would not say the last time he actually spoke with the president , so these scientists and doctors that were hearing from is the most somber and realistic analysis that were getting on the coronavirus at this stage, chuck. And perhaps, leanne, were getting a taste of why the president has not wanted these folks in front of the public in 60 days. In some ways, this is the best were going to do today. The director of special pathogens at Boston University school of medicine. He was part of a w. H. O. Operation in sierra leone to combat the Ebola Outbreak in africa in 2014. So were hearing from people like this is still very serious, hospitalizations going up is concerning. We cant yet say that the death rate is okay, because it might not actually be the case when you have think vastly diverging messages, how do you form a coherent Public Policy to protect a nation . Katy, you and i can answer that, i think, we would be in a much better position. Were at a state where on sunday 20 of the global cases were u. S. Cases. The European Union is potentially considering banning american travelers, because we havent controlled or pandemic. And dr. Fauci said weve done well in some of the coastal states where we had really high peaks, but now we have new peaks as part of the first wave in other states where hospitalizations are rising. What i was heartened to hear is none of them have been pressured to stop testing, or reduce testing. Testing is important not just for the individual that might have a disease, and maybe they can stay home, but its also important for us as a surveillance tool to see where this pandemic is going, reducing testing would be like terning off your headlights in the mid of a storm, because you dont want to be aware of the danger thats coming down. Dr. Fauci is saying youre seeing these cases going up. Generally what happens is a portion becomes hospitalizations, which is a lagging indicator, and many states are already seeing that. The next step that happens is people who are hospitalized, unfortunately a portion may die. That will increase the number of deaths from this disease, so why is the president talking about this idea of reduction of testing . I think were shooting ourselves in the foot if we go down that path. What would you be doing . If we can avoid congregating in one place, as multipeople people, and continue to wear the masks so that others around us dont get sick, and that population then doesnt end up being in hospitals, potentially occupying, you know, those beds that could provide care to other people and putting the lives of Health Care Workers at risk, i would tell the Arizona Governor to continue to think about what would be resources, where theyre i would ask to not have large gatherings within the state. Doctor, i want to turn to some good news. Were looking at live pictures of yuma, arizona. The president will appear any moment now, but earlier today at the hearing, dr. Fauci said when it comes to a vaccine, its a matter of when, not if. He felt very optimistic, or at least cautiously optimistic that well have one. When it comes to the safety of it, he emphasized that the risk involved is the risk to the companies that are trying to develop it financially, that theyre Going Forward and taking a financial risk. He tried to emphasize that the risk would not be in the safety of the vaccine. What did you make of that comment . And how hopeful are you that were going to have a vaccine . Katy, theres been a concern about whether there will be political pressure to release a vaccine. We have seen everything politicized in this pandemic, particularly by this administration. Will we see i was really heartened to hear dr. Fauci said that safety will be forefront, because the last thing we want to do is potential release the vaccine in an age where we have seen a lot of, you know, vaccine a lot of resistance to the vaccine to regularly establish vaccines that have great track record of safety all right. I think that would be a step backwards. So to hear a vaccine would actually be released would always go through that complete safety check is great to hear, and its good to hear where are the places were able to reduce the time, and the timeline to release it. We might have a good chance. We put the machinery together with sars and mers. We never progressed, because those pandemics thankfully receded. Im hopeful, but i dont think it will be at a timeline thats convenient for us. We cant be planning on things being convenient. I think thats something this pandemic should at least if thats one lesson people learn out of this, it would be a good one. Doctor, as always, thank you for providing your expertise for us. Still ahead, despite wide Popular Support with policing reform, will it survive the senate . Senate republicans are speaking about it right now. Here come the partisan politics. 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In a letter released earlier today, theyre prepared to block the current gop proposal. Eyes now on mcconnell and whether hes willing to negotiate or whether hell tell democrats to take it or leave before a procedural vote tomorrow. Joining us is garrett haake. Garrett, this is the portion of the program we start the partisan lobs back and forth. Reporter we made it, 20 minutes. Exactly. Some of this will be for show, some of it is for twitter, but some is for the bases, but sometimes it signals the beginning of the end of negotiation. What do you sense here . How seriously should we take this rhetoric going back and forth right now . Reporter it does look like the bill will go down as early as tomorrow. You mentioned that the democrats calling this woefully inaccurate. Theyve been saying that, but today they started calling it unsalvageable. They say this is not a bill they could fix. They have made the conclusion, either by pure policy or politics, ill leave it to the viewer to decide, that it cannot be mixed on its martz. Rather that i try to have a debade and extend the process, it look likely that theyre going to filibuster this bill, ospenceably to try to force negotiations with Mitch Mcconnell to get something more palatable to start this process. Without much interest from the president , with the parallel bill moving forward in the hours essential an entirely democratic operation in the house, i have a heart time seeing republicans devoting more time debating this bill. I think its entirely possible youll see them filibuster this, and both sides retreat into their corners at a time when the public is incredibly focused on this. Correct me if im wrong, was there ever a meetingharris, sco did they get together before this . Reporter my understanding is they had conversations, but nothing that could be described as a negotiation. This is increasingly how we have seen things go in the divided government here. The house will do their thing, the senate with a leadershipcontrolled process will do its thing. Tim scott took the lead, but this was done closely in contact with both the Majority Leaders Office and the white house to make sure they were all on the same page, and nary the two sides shall meet to see what they can get to in the middle. Garrett haake with the latest there, garrett, thank you. Im guessing well have a more lively floor debate tomorrow perhaps. Katy, over to you. Chuck, complains have been made or filed with the Minnesota Department of human rights on behalf of eight Corrections Officers. They say they were segregated from Derek Chauvin, the Police Officers charged with killing george floyd, separated based solely on the color of their skin. Its a claim that the Ramsey County Sheriffs Office initially denied, but in a statement issue this had week, superintendent steve lydon now admits to allowing only white staff to guard chauvin. He says he made that decision to shield employees of color joining us now is bonnie smith, the attorney representing the eight Ramsey County Corrections Officers. Thank you very much for joining us. I want to get first your reaction to the superintendent saying he was doing this to protect those Corrections Officers. He says, quote, who could potentially aggravate those feelings being exposed to a murder suspect who could potentially aggravate those feelings. Katy, yes, two responses to that. First, there was never any discussion prior to the press getting involved in this matter that my clients Mental Health was a concern. Second, my clients never asked or needed protection, and i would argue that the order that was issued, if anything, compromised the safety at the jail, both among the inmates, the staff, by breaking the truth between the supervisor and interrupting emergency procedures, and essential rendering the officers unable to do their jobs. Why do you think the superintendent made that decision . Why do your clients think the superintendent felt he needed to protect them . Well, katy, as you highlighted in your opening piece, the countys position has changed on this. What my clients were told on the day, on may 29th, is that they were kept off the fifth floor where Derek Chauvin was, prevented from guarding him, because they were considered a liability around him. And, of course, they understood that as anyone who heard that might understand that to mean they couldnt be trusted to do their jobs in a professional manner. Keep in mind, katy, these are highly trained folks, and they have handled highprofile inmates in the past. They had given for reason that they couldnt do the job, regardless of who the inmate was. Mr. Lydon also claims they reversed his decision quickly, saying shoresly after making the decision and corrections staff expressed concern,ings in 45 minutes i realized my error and reversed the order. Is that how your clients would describe the timeline . We dont know exactly how long the order lasted. I dont know that. I think it was pretty chaotic for a number of hours. Its unclear how long it lasted, but i think what is important to remember is the nature of segregating your employees on the basis of skin color only, is that you have the damage is done once the order has been issued. You indicated that youre judging them on the basis of their color, not on how they are performing their job duties, and youve indicated they could be trusted and indicated a bias toward them because of their skin color. The damage was done already, regardless of how long the order lasted. What are you seeking on behalf of your clients . My clients have pretty modest requests. They want to be compensated for the trauma and financial and Emotional Distress theyve been through. Primarily they want to sure this never happens again at Ramsey County. They are seeking that superintendent lydon, who constitutional currently has authority over employment decision at the sxwral, were asking that he be removed from the jail entirely, that any other leadership figures who were involved or complicit in the order, that they be swiftly disciplined and appropriately disciplined. We are asking for comprehensive training, as well as a formal apology and retraction shun of the false comments to press regarding the fact that this never happened. So those their bottom line is they want a change in culture at the Sheriffs Office. They want more transparency and a concrete plan that this will never happen again. It sounds like they want to not be judged by the color of their skin. Thats right. Bonnie smith, thank you very much for joining us today. We appreciate it. Chuck, over to you. Thank you. Well, as if on cue, garrett and i talking about political rhetoric, the rhetoric is starting to get heated. Republican senator John Barrasso said this about the current dispute. Chuck schumer, with a choke hold on the justice act and our opportunity for Police Reform in america. Given what we saw last week when i think dick durbin used the word token to describe some part of the bill, that got turned into a number of fundraising emails for folks on the right. I have a feeling that statement may be something we see quite a bit. Up next, the worlds topranked mens player tests positive after playing in an exhibition event he organized, an event now linked to a growing cluster of cases. Dear fellow Business Leaders and technologists, i see all the Amazing Things you have been doing. You are transforming business models, and virtualizing workforces overnight. Because so much of that relies on financing, we have committed two billion dollars to relieve the pressure on your business. As you adapt and transform, were here with the people, financing, and technology, ready to help. No uh uh, no way come on, no no nnnnono only discover has no annual fee on any card. With spray mopping to lock away debris and absorb wet messes, all in one disposable pad. Just vacuum, spray mop, and toss. The shark vacmop, a complete clean all in one pad. There are new developments this afternoon in the pandemic. Here are the facts. Dr. Anthony fauci warned that a vaccine might take some time, but he also said hes hopeful a vaccine could be ready by the end of this calendar year. This summers july 4th celebration will look differenced. Displays will be launchesed from unannounced locations. Baseball fans are potential one step closer to having a season this year. Major League Baseball announced plans for a 60game season with players they hope reporting by july 1st, but the Players Union still needs to agree to the plan. The league wants an answer by 5 00 p. M. Today. Well see. Meanwhile, katy, one of the more interesting offthe court sports issues and virusrelated stories is next. The worlds number one mens tennis player, Novak Djokovic said he is the fourth player to test positive. He released a statement that unfortunately this virus is still present and a new reality we are still learning to cope and live with. Im hoping things will ease with time so we can resume lives the way they were. Joining me from london is carl natsman. I understand youve been talking to big names in the world who are furious. No shortage of criticism for the worlds number one player. Though hes doing fine, is showing no symptoms, this goes beyond him just coming down with. Other players and his wife also have come down with the virus. This tournament was organized by djokovic himself, an unofficial fundraising event. There were thousands of fans in the stands, no face masks to be seen. The players themselves were hired fiving, hugging, pickup basketball games. That kind of behavior continued off the court as well. There is photos and videos circulating of djokovic and other top players partying and dancing late into the night in night clubs there in serbia and in croatia. You know, that criticism, i spoke with a former womens player, renee stubbs, shes won six grand slam titles. She said, look,s this could have a Ripple Effect when it comes to trying to get the professional season started again. Heres what she told me. The irresponsibility of what has been going on over the last couple days is now jeopardizing Something Like the u. S. Open. You know, thats where thats the bigger question in this, not only the safety of the players, but also the u. S. Open is a month or two away and this is going to put a scare in a lot of players and how they want to go about this. It might be a good scare, that they actually do take the cdc seriously and not go out, not go clubbing, not go to restaurant and then bring it back. Of course here in london, the iconic wimbledon has been chanced. Djokov djokovic. Carl nasman, thank you very much. Chuck, thisunder scores how much it will be to get sports operating again, especially if you have players who will disregard the guidelines, and just openly disregard what you need to do in order to stop the spread of the disease. Highfiving, hugging, going to a nightclub, i mean, come on. You know who has a lot of say over there . Sponsors. Sponsors, my guess, is who will get some players in line. Im guess the players still want their sponsorship money. A concert hall opened its doors for an audience of plant. Barcelona invited a string quart quartet. The artist was inspired by nature. It celebrated the end of the national emergency. As for the plants, theyll be donated to frontline workers in barcelona. Still ahead, primaries are under way in virginia, new york and kentucky. Is this the progressive supertuesday that progressives have been waiting for in . In kentucky, the faceoff with Mitch Mcconnell, and kornacki is at the big board after this break. I dont keep track of regrets and i dont add up the years, but what i do count on. Is boost high protein. And now, theres boost mobility. With key nutrients to help support. Joints, muscles, and bones. Try boost mobility, with added collagen. Former president barack obama is returning to the campaign trail virtually for joe biden. Hell be hosting an online fundraiser. Its the first time obama has joined biden for an official Campaign Event during the 2020 cycle. According to the former president s spokesperson, hell deliver a fullthroated case for why he thinking biden is the leader the country needs now. In that sense, when theyve had the rsvps, things like this, maybe its the draw of who they got in barack obama, but this is a reminder youre starting to see both campaigns Getting Better at raising money virtually. And biden has raised trump for the first time, prompting fears within the Trump Campaign that biden will be tougher to challenge, but chuck, today is tuesday. You know what happens on tuesday . People are voting, today in kentucky, new york and virginia. I learned this for filling in for you on meet the press these are not like normal elections, obviously, because were in the middle of a pandemic. Now with an emphasized need for mailin voting we should expect to see a lag in results, not necessarily things happening this evening. It will also make it harder for americans to vote in person. Joining mess is steve kornacki. Steve, i guess this means were not staying up through the night to get results. Im definitely going to stay up tonight, because i think well get some numbers tonight, but not all the numbers. Let me take you through it. In kentucky, the marquee race, the winner of this race will take on Mitch Mcconnell. Thats obviously an uphill fight. Amy mcgrath got in the race early. She had run for the house in kentucky a couple years ago, almost won, didnt he seems to be gaining a lot of support certainly in the ways of the black lives matter, hes got big National Endorsements coming in as well. Possibly hes closed the gap. Possibly he could win this nomination outright. The story in kentucky, heavy mailin ballot for the first time. 890,000 ballots were requested as of ideas, over half a million had been returned, almost 90 thousands had gone and voted in person early in kentucky. Thats nearly 600,000 between those two. Normal primary in kentucky, they get about 650, 675,000. As of yesterday they were getting close to that number. They will probably go past it. Again, some votes should be coming in tonight, some counties looks like theyll hold all their results until next week. Probably not a very clear picture tonight. New york, another state, a number of House Democrats in new york facing challenges in primaries today. This one at least on paper, eliot engel facing a challenge from jamal bowman. Engle theres been a suggestion he may be in danger hooer some numbers tonight, not all. Steve kornacki, thank you very much. Chuck . Thank you. Yeah, im going to miss staying up until 3 00 in the morning waiting for results, but it looks like if you want to stay up, it will be weeks on end. This week the president claimed it would be that mailin votes could be used to cheat. That a number had voted by mail, including himself, the Vice President , the attorney general, the White House Press secretary. The list goes on and on. John ridge is cochair of votes good to see you, governor. Its been a while. Good to see you. Election security is part of the Homeland Security initiative as well. Mayin balloting, explain, in your view how secure it is. Weve been using mailin balloting since the civil war. The heritage foundation, probably an organization i would suspect that the president is familiar with, took a look at the past 250 mailin ballots, absentee ballots, 250 million, i repeat and there were 200 cases of individuals being prosecuted for improper use. So i think the assertion that somehow historically theres a precedent or Going Forward theres reason to believe there would be massive fraud because of the use of absentee ballots is what the president refers to as fake news. It is, theres no historical anticedent. You would be disenfranchising the people who voted in 2016 when you won the election. And in the swing states of pennsylvania, arizona and others, you have seen unprecedented use of absentee ballots. Its counterproductive and counter intuitive to reject to say that we shouldnt be focused on maximizing turnout and uses absentee ballots so people dont have to make a choice between their health and exercises their Civic Responsibility to vote. Believe it or not, one of the complaints i have heard about some of the absentee balloting comes from some on the left, who say that sometimes absentee ballot votes are more likely to be thrown out and not counted, and that mailin balloting is more likely not to be counted. That is a concern that, whether its how each state monitors this, or whether theres election watchers challenging signature, because in some states its a signature match, is there a way to guarantee thats a fear that i have heard from plenty, i want a mailin ballot, but i dont want it thrown away because they dont lieic my signature on a given day. First of all, you do have to trust the 8,000 to 10,000 men and women who give up two days a year for the primary and general election to make sure all votes are count. And my answer and possible antidote is, one, ensuring that the instructions sent out by local officials are very clear. There have been instances where theres sometimes been contradictory instructions. And, two, i dont think we want to fundamentally change the process where they authenticate and legitimize the absentee ballot by doing the fact checks, doing the signature checks. So, again, that alarm they raise, it might be a modest concern, but i would say, chuck, most of that could be dealt with simply by more and better training. And with all of it, its not just one way to expand voting. Tom ridge, i know we had a few technical difficulties earlier, i would have had you sooner and longer, but glad to have you on. Good to see you. Thank you. Katy, over to you. Coming up next, we will go back to arizona where cases are rising. There are tons of folks lined up to see him, well head over to jacob soboroff. Stay with us. A credit on their auto insurance. Because its the right thing to do. Were also giving Payment Relief options to eligible members so they can take care of things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. Right now is the time to take care of what matters most. Like weve done together, so many times before. Discover all the ways were helping members at usaa. 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Sitting there with mark morgan and frishls the army corps of engineers, the one that we reported on last summer in july of 2019, where we had obtained what we called significant incident reports, allegations of abuse by children in Border Control custody. Its to remind everyone of the Trump Administrations other border policies. Those allegations were very serious and the Trump Administration never answered for them. The office of Inspector General hasnt told us what has happened yet. But this border wall is only one piece of a much larger puzzle. Very restrictive border policies that have quite frankly now most people on that side of the border. Theres a huge overcrowding in the yuma Border Patrol station. Its virtually empty. Something that he wont be talking about quite frankly when hes out here touting this wall later today. Very quickly, jacob, how much of these restrictions theyre saying its the virus, but these were restriction they wanted to put in place but quietly have been able to enact in some cases because of the virus . Reporter you hit the nail on the head. This is what they wanted to do all along, during family separations, deport child migrant, turn them around and seasoned them back. Theyre able to do that now under the cover of coronavirus. And thats something that they hadnt been able to do until the coronavirus hit. Jacob soboroff in yuma for us. Katy, quickly over to you. The coronavirus forced slowdown on naturalization ceremonies for new citizens as having an impact on the 2020 election. Thousands of wouldbe citizens wont be able to take their oath in time to vote. U. S. Citizenship and Immigration Services attempt to attack a ballooning backlog before the pandemic began. Nbc news justice correspondent Julia Ainsley joins us with more. So katy, whats important to remember, its not just the fact that these wouldbe citizens cant get together in the same room and take that monumental oath to become a u. S. Citizen. The people who are processing them are largely being furloughed. We understand from sources that usic, theyre having to furlough many, many staff, thousands, because theyre not getting the fees they would normally get from the forms that people submit to be processed, not just for citizenship but for green cards and visas 37 on the news we got yesterday that the Trump Administration is freezing new visas. That means less money for processing and less mon money less processing than for more citizens. Its the can chicken and egg thing. The Trump Administration furloughing the workers because theyre not getting the funds but theyre taking away the very thing that people would be applying for and paying for in order to make that happen. It goes back to jacobs point as well. It was a Trump Administrations policy goal from the beginning to lower the number of overall immigrants, legal and illegal who come into this country, under the cover of covid, theyre able to accomplish some of these goals had from the very beginning. Before we knew the word coronavirus. Really interesting, julia, thank you for bringing us that reporting. We appreciate it. Chuck, back to you. Thank you katy, thats it for both of us today. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for trusting us. Brian williams picks things up after a quick break. G things you have been doing. You are transforming business models, and virtualizing workforces overnight. Because so much of that relies on financing, we have committed two billion dollars to relieve the pressure on your business. As you adapt and transform, were here with the people, financing, and technology, ready to help. Good day. Brian williams here with you. 3 00 p. M. Here in the east. 12 noon on the west coast. Nicolle wallace, again, enjoying another well deserved day off. Several key players in the administrations response to the coronavirus pandemic are facing questions from a house committee. Please note these officials and the task force have been invisible during the recent spike in cases. E presumably due to the president s sensitivity on the issue. Cdc director robert redfield. Dr. Anthony fauci, the nations top Infectious Disease expert. Te have been asked about everything ranging from testing to Vaccine Development to what we can expect to see later this year. But lawmakers wanted to know if the president meant what he said during saturdays rally in tulsa and asked them to reduce testing in order to reduce the number of new cases. Heres what dr. Anthony fauci had to say about that. To my knowledge, i know for sure to my knowledge, none of us have been told to slow down on testing, that just is a fact. In fact, well be doing more testing as youve heard from the admiral. Not only testing to specifically identify people but also much more surveillance to get your arms around and understand exactly with aes going on in community spread. But, again, were only hearing from fauci, because they were called before congress. Administration firms said that the president was joking when he made comments when slowing down testing. The president seemed to undercut his own defense when he spoke to reporters this morning. At the ally you asked your people to slow down testing, were you just kidding i dont kid. Make it clear. Weve got the greatest Testing Program anywhere in the world. We test better than anybody in the world. Our tests are the best in the world. We have the most of them. By having more tests, we find more cases. But actually what it is, is were finding people, many of those people arent sick or very little, maybe young people. But whats happened because of all of the cases that we find we have a very low mortality rate. Just about the best in the world. Just a reminder here the president s comments come as the virus has killed over 121,000 americans, sickened another 2. 3 million that we know of and roughly half of all states have now seen a spike in infections in recent weeks. One of them is arizona. Which announced that nearly 3600 cases were reported just yesterday. The highest daily total of new cases to date. As if in the midst of a tour of u. S. Hotspots a short time ago the president arrived in arizona. Not for anything related to coronavirus, but for a photoop at the border wall and then to host a students for trump rally indoors at a megachurch in phoenix. Hundreds of people have liked up outside the church where that event will be held. Plain to say, very few are following coronavirus guidelines. It comes as we learn more about how the coronavirus will impact the fall president ial campaign. The commission on president ial debates, remember them, said today the second president ial debate scheduled for october 15th has been moved from the university of michigan to miami. After the university of michigan concluded it was not feasible to hold the debate as planned. With us for our leadoff discussion, nbc news capitol hill correspondent and host of kasie dc, kacie hunt. Welcome. First off, if memory serves, youre in fact a graduate of the university of michigan, your reaction to this decision to show the better part of safety. I have done my work as a fan well, i actually went to George Washington university, they dont have a football program. Both of my parents attended university of michigan at ann arbor. Okay, thats why. Im honored that you would consider me to be among their alumni. As a follower of you on social media, i have seen your support for the wolverines over the years. Thats why i got confused. Of course, im very vocal about it. I will say, you know, if you look into, this is a question that these colleges are wrestling with and we have seen some lawmakers asking questions about this very issue to the public Health Officials over the course of this you know, the previous hearing on capitol hill because they really have to take into account, theyre struggling already to give the students that are there what they deserve for the tuition that theyre paying and to allow everyone to operate safely and you know this is one of the major consequences of the reality that the pandemic is not currently under control. I mean, as this hearing has played out, brian, there was a story in the New York Times about how the eu is considering not allowing americans to travel there and whats a pretty significant statement about how were doing as compared to the rest of the world and, you know, these themes have been brought up with dr. Fauci, with redfield and the others who are testifying in congress today, i think the good news we heard from fauci particularly about vaccines, not a question of if but when. He also was very careful to note that they have to get it right and that getting it right may take more time than any of us really want to begin to grapple with and the president has clearly decided that he wants to try and put this pandemic behind him, there are all these ways hes tucking about how he wants to slow down. In tulsa, he said he wanted to slow down coronavirus testing, because testing just yields more cases. Hes as you point out, Holding Indoor events in arizona today. He was trying to focus on immigration, but instead were having this conversation about coronavirus. The reality is, the virus is getting in the way of his favorite way of campaigning, i mean, we know that only about 6200 people showed up to rally. Likely, because people were simply afraid to be in an enclosed space in the middle of this pandemic. Hes trying to create this reality that it doesnt exist, his supporters are not necessarily buying that. Americans really are afraid. So the consequences of how he initially and continues to handle this pandemic are rippling through all facets of American Life and certainly into the Political Campaign and it tells me that isnt the last time that well see public Health Officials here on capitol hill having to answer some of these tough questions, brian. We have seem to have a Public Health expert as part of this conversation. Mask wearing has truly become a political statement, or at least some are out there trying to paint it as such. If you just landed from another planet, youd be allowed to believe that the president is indeed on a tour of hotspots in our country. First, tulsa. And now, phoenix, arizona, in the space of four days. And as taxpayers dont we deserve more than were getting from the white house Coronavirus Task force, from nih, from cdc, why does the invitation have to come from congress before we hear from a fauci following a weekend where the president insisted he slowed down testing . Well, brian, i think these are very good questions to ask. Why are we not hearing daily from the cdc . Why are we not hearing daily from nih . Any place in the federal government giving good guidelines, coming one a National Strategy and really pushing forward to be able the defeat this virus . You know, this whole idea that we should be slowing down testing, whether he was joking, whether he was not joking, this goes right back to this issue of mixed messaging. We have to have clear messages and were not getting it anywhere from any place in this government. Everybody knows now the science is clear wear mask. It reduces spread of disease. What do we need . We need good testing in place. Weve been saying this for months. We need contact tracing. We need to have National Strategy. This hasnt changed. My message hasnt changed in the last three months. In fact, its just im going to tell you the same thing i told you months ago were just going right back into where we started, which is cases spiking, unclear strategy, and this is the point where we really need to be doing better. Kasie was talking about how europe may not bring americans back into europe. I dont think thats a bad decision at this point. Were doing terribly when it comes to controlling this virus. Than other countries that were looking at here. I think thats pretty good decision on their part. So, kasie hunt, i read you a tweet from our friends at the Lincoln Project who put this out yesterday. This week, every gop senator should be force td to answer these questions do agree with the president in slowing down nationwide covid19 testing . Are you okay with the president s decision to suddenly fire berman . What are your thoughts on boltons china trump claims . Kasie, you have made a Cottage Industry of making grown men with names like roberts and portman break eye contact, look down at their shoes, pretend to be late for meals, do you see any break in the big red wall, especially in the u. S. Senate, and some would say, especially among men and women who know better and have sold all they have to donald trump . Do you see any cracks in that wall in your questioning of these lawmakers as they hustled by you. Brian, first of aural, i appreciate the Lincoln Projects suggestions. Im glad that theyre watching the work of me and my other colleagues on the hill. We appreciate it. You know, i dont try and answer your question, this kind of routine and it has become a routine that i think, you know those of us who Cover Congress in a substantiative way, can also find frustrating, this is how things work in trumps washington the reality is, the congress isnt doing very much thats substantiative in the ways they perhaps have in the past and they of course i think are quite frustrated with us, this dynamic that all of the time theyre being asked about the latest trump tweet, but the reality is, you know, they put themselves into this difficult situation, and theyve done it so thoroughly its almost impossible to get out of and i dont see a world where theyre able to kind of escape that trap they made themselves. They made their bed with President Trump and now they have to stay there until november and i think thats part of why youre seeing so much additional anxiety about how this president is doing because its more and more likely that republicans are going to lose the senate in the fall, brian. Ann, why does it seem like covid19 is following the sun through the south, the sun belt, and now out west . Why does it seem like your state, california, had done so well and is now so firmly in public publicly under the gun . You know, the laws of how a virus spreads and in particular this virus, havent changed, it has to do with how well were doing it, social distancing, how well were doing at wearing a mask, handwashing, all of these blunt Public Health measures, the states that have opened up early, the states that havent been able to really get people to do their best at staying as far apart as they can, really pushing guard with masks, yet were starting to see the results of this. It shouldnt be surprising to anybody if youre not socially distancing, if youre not wearing a mask, if youre opening too soon, youre going to see a spike in cases. This isnt rocket science. This is just plain this is the way it works in terms of virus transmission. We need blunt Public Health measures. Everybodys looking for a magical cure the vaccine thats going to save us, therapeutics thats going to save us, really, right now whats going to save us is good testing, tracing, isolation, social distancing and Wearing Masks, thats it looking at pictures from arizona, not a mask in sight. We see one of those mist iin ii sheens in site. Be that to as it may, our thanks to dr. Ann rimoin out at ucla. And kasie hunt, alum of gwu. A break for us. When we come back from the National Response to the pandemic to the soaring number of cases in texas, where the states governor says the virus must be corralled but so far lets be fair, its fully out of the barn and running wild in several big cities in that state. Later, President Trump desperate to turn the page on the pandemic, reechls back to his 2016 playbook. Wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home, from inspiration to installation. Like way more vanities perfect for you. Nice. Way more unique fixtures and tiles. Pairing. Nice. Way more top brands in sinks and faucets. Way more ways to rule your renovation. Nice on any budget, with free shipping. Wayfair. Way more than furniture. Because the tempurbreeze transfers heat away from your body. So you feel cool. Night after night. During the tempurpedic summer of sleep, save 500 on all tempurbreeze mattresses. During the tempurpedic summer of sleep, i geh. Common bird. E. Ooh look over here something much better. There it is. 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The situation has become so dire that now the texas Childrens Hospital in houston is admitting Adult Patients to free up beds in other hospitals. On monday, republican texas Governor Greg Abbott revealed that the state was averaging over 3500 new cases a day, marking an explosive surge after averaging around 1500 per day back in may. As you may recall, texas was among the first states to reopen its economy, a decision that Governor Abbott previously defended and that his friend donald trump applauded. In late april, he even signed an executive order barring local governments to require residents to wear face masks in public, but now governor said he would consider rolling back some of those guidelines if the numbers continue to surge. Heres some of what he said on monday. If we experienced another doubling of those numbers over the next month, that would mean that we are in an urgent situation, where tougher actions would be require to contain the spread of covid19. But even as the governor has appeared to change his tune on the severity of this crisis, he said shutting down the state again would be a last resort. Were joined from texas by dr. Peter hotez, an Infectious Disease expert. Serves as the director of the texas Childrens Hospital center for Vaccine Development. First of all, doctor, in your own words as you look at it as a resident taxpayer and physician, how much trouble is texas in . I think were in a lot of trouble, brian, unfortunately were seeing a pretty steep acceleration in the number of cases here in houston and in several other metropolitan areas, austin, dallas, fir instance, and the rise is not a gradual rise, its not a linear rise, its following an exponential curve, its going flat and its accelerating almost vertically and thats worrisome, its not just the number of cases its also the fact that were seeing a big surge now on the hospitals of our texas medical center. Youve been to houston, you know that massive texas medical center, 60 institutions and hundreds of thousands of employees. Were starting to see a surge in our icu beds as well. Our ceo mark wallace took that very courageous step to open texas childrens to bring in Adult Patients. Were in for a very serious time. I dont see what slows this down. We havent done anything at a macroscopic Public Health level, although were going to have more mandates on masks. Well have no choice to implement more aggressive measures and pretty soon im afraid. This being your lifes work, can you believe you lived to see a day when the wearing of a mask in public was fraught with politics, partisan politics . Yeah, the politicalization of this has been awful and its been tough here in texas, we have a farright fringe group that has been going up against me for a few years because im a vaccine scientist and the parent of an adult daughter with autism. They go after me with that. I have a new name now, the o. G. Villain, im the original gangster villain for defending vaccines. But now those same groups are now holding demonstrations against all the things we need to do the contact tracing, the detection, the surveillance, the social distancing and since we dont have a covid19 vaccine and wont have one until next year at the earliest, so theyre trying to take away the only weapons we have. So, we have to get serious. We have to recognize that this is a Public Health crisis and take some positive steps and i think that will happen. I expect some big changes before the end of the week, otherwise this will be an irreversible assent of cases and hospitalizations. And thats finally what i want to get your comment on is a vaccine, this mythical day when the vaccine arrives and then we start the process perhaps of c vaccinating 7 billion souls around the planet, those who will allow themselves to have the dose, at least once a day now, probably because of the arrival of the warmer weather, and cities, quote, getting back, well go to a nascar race when theres vaccine. Well go on vacation when theres a vaccine. Are people mentally ready and equipped just how long a wait this may be and just how long, if we view lockdown as kind of a timeout, where we forced to learn new practices, how much longer are we going to have to implement those new practices . Brian, what well have to do is navigate our way through this even with a vaccine, its not going to be a magic solution. Particularly some of the first vaccines that were seeing coming out of operation warp speed because of the technology theyre using, partially protective, not completely protective. There will be improvements. Well see a series of rollouts of vaccines. I think well see multiple vaccines. But history tells us when we looked at the history of for instance, the polio program, or the hpv program, that are first vaccines that roll out are not typically our best vaccines, they get improved on, when people talk about a race to vaccine, be careful what you wish for because those first vaccines have a builtin onless sent. Theyre not going to replace existing Public Health control measures, theyll be used as companion technologies. They wont replace social distancing, masks and contact tracing, theyll be a useful technology and then things will improve. We need to get into a more stable culture of fighting this virus without having this kind of magical thinking that the president too often uses, you know, first, he said were going to hydroxychloroquine our way out of it, now its vaccines and it doesnt work that way. The vaccines will certainly help but theyll be companion con mremtry technologies. Doctor, we always appreciate having some time to talk with you. Dr. Peter hotez with us from texas at this hour. Thank you so very much. President trump on the ground at this hour in arizona visiting his second coronavirus hotspot in four days time. The pandemic may be overshadowing what many consider one of the most heartbreaking policies of this administration the treatment of Migrant Children at the border with mexico, the truth is the pandemic is making it all the worse. The president at the border, so is our own jacob soboroff. Hell join us after a break. Since my dvt blood clot. I wasnt sure. Was another around the corner . Or could things go a different way . I wanted to help protect myself. My doctor recommended eliquis. Eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot. Almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didnt experience another. 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