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Sidewalk weaponizing that vehicle hitting pedestrians and the three attackers starting attacking people on foot in bars and nearby restaurants of the market. The Police Killed them within eight minutes from the start of this attack. No group has claimed responsibility so far. Both Prime Minister theresa may and london mayor sadiq khan spoke earlier today. We believe we are experiencing a new trend in the threat we face. As terrorism breeds terrorism and perpetrators are inspired to attack, not only on the basis of carefully constructed plots after years of planning and training, and not even as lone attackers radicalized online, but by copying one another and often using the crudest of means of attack. One of the things the terrorists want to do is disrupt our way of life and stop us from enjoying freedoms we have, mingling and mixing having a good time. They want to stop voting on thursday in the general elections and enjoy the democracy we have. We cant let them do that. Nor will we let them win. The London Police commissioner talked about the speed of which First Responders were able to stop this attack. We were able to respond to this incident extremely quickly, within literally eight minutes. We were already at a very high level of alertness. Its a very complex and confused scene and confused series of events. So its important that we first of all make sure there is no one else outstanding. Woe don we dont believe there is. The white house said in a statement that President Trump had spoken with may on the phone to offer full support and President Trump said we must stop bngolitical my correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we dont get smart, its only going to get worse. Seven dead, 48 wounded. The mayor of london says there is no reason to be alarmed. And do you notice also right now that theres really no gun debate about all of this because this is this is all from donald trump by the way, because they use knives and a truck. Lucy kavanaugh has been reporting for us. What have we learned about the 12 different folks around london taken in . Reporter good morning, its afternoon in the early hours of this morning. Police carried out a massive operation in an area known as barking, im a block from London Bridge where the attack took place. This is a suburb of a ethnically mixed working class area. We saw a very Large Police Operation there. In connection was last nights London Bridge and market attack. They were honing in on Apartment Building and witnesses reported hearing loud bangs but they were later told by the police those were controlled explosions. 12 people taken in. We dont know the identity of the suspects or what kind of relationship she may have had with the three attackers who have been killed but we do know that more searches are taking place as we spea this is very similar to what weve seen in the aftermath of the westminster attack and manchester, people can hold people under the uk terrorism laws for ten days. They are trying to piece together who these three men were, what their motive may have been and perhaps more importantly, whether they had other accomplices and whether there was a network behind these attackers. Obviously this was a harrowing night for those who survived a terrifying night for those who lost loved ones. My colleague bill neely filed this report. Take a look. Reporter Terror Police on london streets this morning, searching for accomplices, guns drawn after another brut it wal attack that began on London Bridge. People running for their lives, the street littered with the dead and injured. Just minutes earlier, theyve been enjoying bars and restaurants when this white van accelerated onto the bridge, targeting pedestrians, zigzagging from sidewalk to road and hitting dozens. Three men then jumping from the van with knives. They went to another restaurant, the street with knives. Maybe mid20s, maybe take bit younger, all in black, black hooddyes, black hair. They started stabbing people in a crowded market district. Police warning everyone to stay down and hide. Outside, thousands were fleeing in terror. Like three men, with kind of bomb looking belt. A policeman was trying to put himself between these attackers and rest of the people trying to scare them. They shot and killed men who wore fake bomb vests wnt eight minutes of the first emergency call. We believe three suspects are dead. Reporter american intelligence now helping London Police. We have a good working relationship with youour ameri colleagues and depend on them to keep the country safe. Britains Prime Minister outraged. We believe were experiencing a new trend in the threat we face as terrorism breeds terrorism. But it is time to say enough is enough. Reporter the three terrorists havent been named. Eyewitnesses say one of them was shouting, this is for allah. Today survivors are reliving the horror. Look out across the road theres a guy throwing a table and turns out to be a heroic table throwing tables and glass at the people, which is heroic of him. Reporter police are searching for evidence and raiding buildings in london, a city braced for more. Reporter and tom a. We heard from the British Police chief constable moments ago and said the public can expect to see more Armed Police Patrols in the stets, especially in the transportation sector. He did say they do not expect at this point to raise the threat level back to critical. It is at severe at the moment which does mean an attack is highly likely though not eminent. This is a rapidly developing fluid situation and could change if they reevaluate the threat facing the public here. Four hours to your northwest, it is a big day in manchester as the benefit concert starring Ariana Grande and other celebrities are coming back to that terrorized city because of what happened there two weeks ago. What update do we have on that . Is the show still on . Reporter the show is still on. Theyve obviously as you can expect, upgraded the security. There will be more checks and checkpoints and more authorities on the ground. The message were seeing out of manchester and the one frankly were seeing out of london, this is a country that will not be coward in the face of terror. Theres an election coming up on june 8th, in four days. Theresa may said this will still continue. They are suspending campaigning for today but will resume on monday. The message to those who wish to do the country harm, keep calm sean carry on, thats the mantra were hearing over and over again in the uk and what were hearing from officials. An important show of force and support for those folks who are turning out to the Ariana Grande in spite of last nights tragic attack. Keep calm and carry on. Lucy, great to see you, thank you. Well be back to lucy in a bit. Joining me is brian dillon, former head of the ldon metropolitan Police Armed Response unit. As we heard from the Police Commissioner, eight minutes seems like a short time for police to get on the scene and also to eliminate the threat here, kill these attackers. What do you think was on the mind of these officers as they were rushing into the unknown here of this scene . I think what was on mind probably of the officers, its very difficult for me to second guess that, but essentially what we would be expecting is them to be considering their training and our officers in london and throughout the United Kingdom go through very extensive training to deal with a wide variety of threats and situations. The whole point about it keeping an open mind as to what youre going through, developing in your mind the threat assessment of the situation that youre about to confront, which will be continually be updated by information being receiving from the control room. And effectively the officers getting themselves ready to deploy very swiftly out of their vehicles to find the threat, close in on it taen neutralize it to minimize any greater loss of life amongst members of the public. As we know the investigation expending now is lucy reporting there, 12 people in east london as they were arrested in connection to the incident. We know the Police Commissioner spoke about this earlier. Lets listen to what she had to say as to how much time will go into this investigation. Its a very complex and confused scene and confused series of eventevents. Its important that we first of all make sure that there is no one else outstanding, we dont believe there is but we must make absolutely certain of that. So they want to make absolutely certain there is no one outstanding. When we think of 12 arrested in connection to this, how unlikely is it that they have been able to capture some type of cell or how likely ask that they have tapped into something that was a little more nefarious with the 12 arrests . Well, at the moment, i think what the police will be eve endeavoring to do is expand their investigative net as wide as possible. Anyone with any form of connection or association to last nights incident will be brought into custody. As much to identify whether they are involved to potentially eliminate them. We cant leave any stone unturned because this sort of thing cant be allowed to go without significant robust challenge in order to make sure that anybody responsible is outstanding hasnt been shot by the justice is brought to justice. We know as lucy reported also, campaigning is suspending for today in advance of thursdays general election there in the uk, the Prime Minister was talking about this attack saying enough is enough. But i also want to let our folks watching know more of what she had to say about this in terms of tolerance to it. Take a listen. Well, we have made significant progress in recent years, there is to be frank far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. Brian, what do you make of those comments, tolerance to extremism. Who tolerating it . Well, i think what the Prime Minister is talking about is making sure that all sections of society that there is no hiding place or room for people who have extremist views of any persuasion. That is the inher ent challenge in a democracy society, the line between what society is prepared to tolerate and whats considered being criminal. I think the Prime Minister is pointing towards having a greater debate and review leading to i would anticipate some form of new policy, new procedure of the existing strategy in order to make sure that people who might be radicalized are prevented from doing so and brought into the criminal justice system. Obviously, no one wants to stand for terrorism, but when we talk about policy and changes like that, certainly from a police perspective, brian and your deep knowledge of the uk police and metro division, how does that position Prime Minister may in terms of being intolerant to certain groups or suspecting certain groups that it seems like shes trying to put a finger toward . I think ultimately what it boils down to, everybody in the country playing their role in trying to rule out any form of radicalism. The bottom line is, theres only so much that the police and Security Forces can do to keep the public safe. We cant have armed officers on every stre corner throughout this country. And no matter how quick and robust the response is and as weve seen last night a very swift and Effective Response from the police, ultimately people in society need to ap extent police with a small p themselves to try to rule out the ideology that fuels hate and extremism and violence. Brian dill on, former head of the London Metropolitan Police Response unit. We appreciate your insight. Why were bombers excuse me, why were attackers wearing what was now considered to be these fake suicide vests . And is it a copycat attack something the Police Suspect could come next. Well dive into that and more questions right after this. Has gotten to know our business so well, that it feels like hes a part of our team. With one phone call, he sets me up with tailored products and services. 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No, they stole a chair and threw it at me, on the back and ran towards me to try to stab me so i run away. I would have been a dead man. I would have been killed. Can you imagine the instincts there, fight, flight or freeze. There we hear about one eye witness recounting the scene of going into fight mode as we are now covering this third terror attack in the uk in three months. Joining me from london, duncan guardham and kevin barron, the ecutive editor of defense one and Senior Analyst juan saurte, for combatting terrorism under george w. Bush. Duncan, let me begin with you, we have this late morning Early Morning notification, late morning in uk about the 12 arrests that happened overnight. How likely is it that these dozen people were on the radar of the police or is it just good work based on who the three suspects are . I would say its quite likely they were on the radar. Theres an extensive number of people that are on the Security Services radar these days running up to 20,000 individuals that they have looked at over the years. And around 3,000 that are currently being looked at. So thats quite a large number. The area in east london they are looking at has been a hot bed for some activity and so i would be surprised perhaps if they werent already on the radar. Here we are two weeks past what happened in manchester and that horrendous attack that is just four hours northwest of what happened at the London Bridge in the area surrounding it. We have the Prime Minister saying that she thinks theres too much tolerance for extremism and potentially this is copycat terrorism taking place. Do you think that this was really inspired by what happened at the Westminster Bridge attack earlier this year . And also, what we just saw with the incident in manchester . Well, not just those but all of the attacks in cities on euro that e seeming more often to come from within. Im a milary reporter, i cover the pentagon and i was on the trip with secretary mattis to afghanistan last month. And i was struck more often now you hear commanders say they are focused on those terrorist groups that can or may have had the potential to plot, direct, inspire, external attacks from the region to western cities. So thats already shifted the focus you dont know battlefield. Afghanistan fran, the taliban and hack canny, its groups like this. It is definitely okay change for london. A year ago people were talking about how the british have a much longer history and different type of muslim population. But these types of attacks more often by people from within, Second Generation, it really does feel i think the Prime Minister is right, theres a shift going on. This might be a new era thats already begun. As you say, citizens, Second Generation sit zens of the country. For Law Enforcement and when we consider and to kevins reporting talking about these types of asymmetrical attacks that pair dime, from a lone wolf or small cell, how can they go beyond prevention of police, when they are happening at the soft target say at the London Bridge . Incredibly difficult. I think you have these low tech attacks with high psychological and Economic Impact hitting the hearof the metropolitan centers with violent plications, hitting western society and culture at its very heart, the heart of london on a saturday evening. We saw the paris attack disrupting the cafes and concerts, these are meant to be idealogical attacks and also meant to be strategic. And in many ways they follow the game plan that the Islamic State and al qaeda have called for. They said explicitly, dont come to the jihadi battlefield in places like iraq and syria anymore, attack in place where you can. Use things like vehicles and knives and go ahead and attack fellow citizens and cause terror and just a few days ago the Islamic State called for an allout war against the west and called on followers to do what they can. The think the problem here is you have groups like that that are in some ways directing attacks, some of the sophisticated attacks weve seen enabling others and justin spiring. You have those three cat egorie and in a environment like the uk, long lineage of jihadi to choose and certainly youve got the foreign fighters and almost 1,000 or so that have gone to iraq and syria, some of whom have come back, you have a lot of people to worry about. And this makes it very difficult for even the best in europe, the british, to prevent. And i think part of this is trying to be predictive and determine whos going to attack. In an open western society that is incredibly difficult and i think were seeing the wave of a new type of terror quickening pace of this kind of terror that unfortunately is affecting our british colleagues. You make a great point about the psychological effect of what this does to democracy. And duncan, we have the thursday general election coming up in the uk, the third terror attack happening there within three months. Theresa may coming out saying theres too much of an extent of tolerance to extremism. What does this do to the mood of voters there . Well, obviously, people feel that democracy is under attack but sadiq khan came out, himself a muslim, and said we cant allow this to be an attack on democracy and cant allow it to be attack on our way of life, on going out and enjoying ourselves. In the past theyve been asked a few months and indeed the previous couple of years, weve seen a tacks targeted at military targets, low tech attacks at military targets, including u. S. Targets in britain but this is particularly hurtful because its targeting civilians as they did in manchester. That is where it really kind of brings it home to people that their way of life is under attack. Right, you have to be kind of on guard as we were hearing from the man there a witness on scene, grabbing his chair trying to protect himself. Kevin, when we think about how police have described these attackers as also havi these vests on to make it look like they had explosive suicide devices, the cops went in to neutralize this and did not give much of a Second Thought of taking them out. Obviously this would be used as a deter rent to think we cant shoot because that could cause an untoward explosion and Collateral Damage towards what exist. It was a pretty diabolical added twist to it. I think Security Officials have a real communication with the public. In one hand if you think just in last month, the state department issued a knew travel warning for americans and for the world frankly for all of europe saying careful about going to any major public event, any gathering and at the same time, be on alert. What else can they tell the public . If you think yesterday was also the champions week final, biggest sporting event of the year, no terrorist incident. The week before its an Ariana Grande concert that nobody would think about. Thats not a major sporting event and now its London Bridge. In the United States i think theres a much higher level higher bar for when officials will come public. We never hear about the plots on the threats on major places like times square or National Mall in d. C. You can pretty much guess when they are going to be. You might not want to be there on july 4th or new years eve if you want to heed the warnings of intelligence officials but we dont hear about that. All we hear about is a generic months long warning about every possible public gathering and Prime Minister saying we should be careful and then the president of the United States this morning tweeting out, well, thats not good enough, weve got to do more. But they wont tell us more. I think if were really in this new era where every possible market is a terrorist plot, probably more so then Something Like a champions colleague final, which is a hardened secure kind of event, maybe theres something in the middle you need to tell people like terror alert systems. Jeh johnson, when he was dhs secretary wanted to restart that and educate the public and press to be able to say theres an alert now on this location and not have the press and public freak out about it because were used to a new level of security that collectively can be effective and people can be on watch and help Law Enforcement into this new era. I would think and a lot of folks watching this, kevin makes a great point about communications but weve grown up in the culture, see something, Say Something since 9 11. Do you think though that there is this type of blue print that exists what we have now happening at London Bridge, that we dont hear about from the Intelligence Community because they did thwart something and there was many more we dont get to report on or talk about because the Intel Community doesnt want us to know the level they are thwarted here in the states . I think thats absolutely right. I think authorities are challenged by a couple of different factors. One is they dont want to necessarily forecast too much when in fact they are looking at ongoing plots or suspects. And they also may not know as much as we think they do or should. And thats a problem as well. I think you know, theres a double edged sword here. You do have to increase awareness, see something, Say Something has been the mantra in the u. S. For some time. But you dont want to create paranoia either. One of the things the terrorists are ting to achieve this psychological, Economic Social Impact and you want to not allow that to happen. You want lives to continue and want society to remain open, commerce to flourish, et cetera. There is really a challenge here of how you balance the need to inform the citizenry of these threats while also not terrorizing further or amplifying the threat. The one thing i worry about from a social media perspective and Media Coverage perspective and weve seen it and heard theresa may talk about this. Terrorism begetting terrorism. Its the demonstration effect of all of these attacks. Nice looks like berlin, Christmas Market looks like Westminster Bridge and london. These actors, be they individual small groups or even organized organizations like isis or al qaeda, learn from each other. They see how we react and constantly trying to both copycat and adapt. I think thats really dangerous here because they are seeing that these small scale attacks can have strategic impact. The Ripple Effect is large. Juan, thank you very much. Kevin duncan thank you as well. Well be talking about the nuances in the tough talk coming up of the british Prime Minister, theresa may and what it means in the fight against these attacks straight ahead. Their experience is coveted. Their leadership is instinctive. Theyre experts in things you havent heard of. Researchers of technologies that one day you will. Some call them the best of the best. Some call them veterans. We call them our team. How if guests book direct ater, choicehotels. Com and stay twice theyll get a 50 gift card . Summertime. Badda book. Badda boom. Got you a shirt . I kept the receipt. Book now at choicehotels. Com. Is not just something you can see or touch. Home. Is a feeling. Its the place where you feel safe to have those little moments that mean everything. 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Thats why Dell Technologies runs live with sap. Good morning and welcome back. 32 past the hour. This is what were watching for you. With police in london saying they made arrests, 12 people taken in connection for the attack last night and started on the London Bridge 10 00 p. M. London time. Three suspects used a van to plow into pedestrians on that bridge then existed the vehicle running to the nearby Borough Market and diners at restaurants and in the crowded area tried to exam per to safety. 48 transported to hospitals and police say armed officers shot and killed the suspect within eight minutes of getting the call. Lucy kafanov is on the scene. Tell us what we know about the connection to the incident and people taking advice from Law Enforcement officials to carry on. Whats the mood like . Reporter thats right, thomas, all we know from authorities so far is that 12 people, we dont know their gender, but 12 people have been arrested in the barking neighborhood in east london, a suburb thats about 30 minutes from here. We saw Massive Police activity under way all morning. Numerous raids. Were being told they are still searching multiple properties. So that number of those people in custody could rise but authorities are not releasing any details about who they are, who the attackers are or what networks they might be affiliated with. At thi stage in the investigation, thats exactly w British Police would like to keep it. What we saw in the manchester attack, the leaks of the identity of the bomber and different developments in the investigation coming not from british authorities but u. S. Officials who obtained that from british thors. Were not seeing this repeated at this stage. They are keeping that investigation under wraps. New details coming in, partners at ipn news managed to spi eak with one of the neighbors of the attackers. He was moving out of his Apartment Building and attacker came up to him and asked him many questions about a white van that the neighbor was using to move his things out and asked him questions, saying, where could i get a van . How much was it . Where could he get a van like this . Then he said to the neighbor, i might be moving shortly with my family as well. Obviously a chilling experience for this neighbor. He saw the photographs released by authorities and contacted the news media. But this was a harrowing experience for the victims of that attack for those who survived Borough Market isnt far from where im standing. This is how one described that terrifying evening. Become aware the table nearest the door, they wanted to lock the door as they ducked for cover. People were very worried about it. You saw food fly and tables tipped, duck, get under things and something bad is happening. Unclear what happened at the time. Look out across the road and theres a guy throwing a table. This heroic guy throwing tables and people to try to save us and not himself. Thomas, heroic actions not just terror and this one individual. We heard from a Police Officer whos been injured, a transport Police Officer wounded last night who hurled himself at these attackers to save innocent civilians nearby. Hearts go out to those who work for Police Forces and those who went with their gut instinct to help others out of that. Lucy kafanov, thank you. We heard from theresa may saying enough is enough about this, things need to change. How can open society like the uk or u. S. Deal with the rise of extremism . Well talk about that after this. New roads and bridges. New mass transit. New business friendly environment. New lower taxes. 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Well, its very clearly that they are either copycatting or directed or inspired to carry out this attack using the methodologies that both al qaeda and isis have been pushing out to its followers or its potential followers to do tse attacks without using firearms. Al qaeda pioneered this or didnt pioneer it but actually made the first articles a few years back. Isis has been carrying out this campaign to get their extremists to attack during the holy month of ra ma dan and encourage people to use firearms purchased legally or knives or vehicles as weapon systems. We saw these three individuals using this inspiration method. Were seeing how improvisation is being weaponized and what we saw in nice as well. We have british officials talking about the attack. Listen to what they are saying about the baseline, the foundation of what was behind this. We are confident about the fact that they were radical islamist terrorists the way they were inspired. While vef made significant progress in recent years, there is to be frank far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. Far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. Break those words apart, the nuance used that. What the Prime Minister saying especially ahead of thursday and the uk general election . It appears shes using this to establish a baseline that she intends to create a tougher regime. This is not new. Ive heard this exact same language used by mgaret thatcher when the irish publican arm were running rampage all around england in massive bombing campaigns and assassinations and killing british soldiers. If its political, its political. By bringing in the term islamic terrorism, thats even though these terrorists often use islam as their base of belief, they are essentially technically islamic cultists, the muslim world has nothing to do with them. What they do is completely and wholly unislamic, to kill people during the holy month of ramadan is out the window. Shes playing politics with this a little bit with the yupt coming election and what she really needs to do is start carrying out counter ideology campaigns and because england has a very well integrated reporting system amongst the Muslim Community and muslim nationals there in that country. Shes sort of playing a game there but its not going to stop attacks. What it will do is encourage future attacks because now they have the attention they want. Do you think though that may and others might be putting the cart before the horse in talking about it like this with islamist terrorism involved and not knowing exactly whether it was directed or inspired by any such group . Well, i mean, you know, if you raid the gentlemans house and these terrorists house and find korans and all of this materials in there that appear to be islamic, sure, they will generally characterize these things as that. She still has to find out what is the ideology that radicalized that individual, that made that individual go from doing verbalized complaints to actually picking up the mantle of terrorism. In Counter Terrorism we dont care what your religious ideology is, we care youre a terrorist. They should really start emphasizing that. Malcolm nance, good to see you but we see you too much talking about these things currently. Still on for tonight, this benefit concert with Arianna Grande showing up with a panel of celebrity friends and next on a. M. Joy, the political ramifications of the London Attacks here in our country. Are allergies holding you back . Break through your allergies. Try new Flonase Sensimist allergy relief instead of allergy pills. Its more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist experience youll barely feel. Using unique mistpro technology, new Flonase Sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. 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Common side effects of harvoni include tiredness, headache and weakness. Ready to let go of hep c . Ask your hep c specialist about harvoni. We know the London Attack comes less than two weeks after the Arianna Grande concert in manchest manchester. Kelly cobiella is in manchester, in spite of this incident, the show in manchester is a go, correct . Reporter it is a go. Manchester police saying this event will go forward as well as another Charity Soccer match not far from here, about 130,000 people visiting this immediate area this afternoon. And theres a Huge Police Presence here. Im not sure how much of it you can see but you can see security and police just behind me. We see groups of probably 12 or so officers pass by every so often. There are Police Standing alongside the road ringing this stadium every several feet or so. Its an absolutely massive operation here. And in addition to that, you have fans whoave come here, who are at the first conrt who have told me, look, yeah, we have some jitters, were nervous and unckouncomfortable, but we d to come here not only for the people who couldnt make it but for ourselves who feel we can go forward and manchester is a Strong Community and we wont be afraid. Sure you can hear there in the background the band has even popped up here outside the stadium playing music as well. So almost a festive atmosphere here in manchester despite what happened in london last night, thomas. Kelly thank you. Back here at home weve been following the president s tweets about the London Attack. How appropriate are they in the wake of what happened . Thats next. I need the phone thats where i happen to be. To be the one that rings. I need not to be missed phone calls. To not be missed. I need seamless handoff. Canyon software. From reception, to landline, to mobile. I need one number. Not two. Im always moving forward. Because i cant afford to get stuck in the past. Comcasbusiness. Built for business. Were back now with breaking News Coverage of the deadly terror attack in london. This is a live image there. Investigators on the scene. As you can see those double decker iconic london busses red right there stalled. Everything is frozen in motion as investigators continue trying to update this investigation. We have 12 arrests overnight. But with 7 deaths, 48 others injur injured. London asked people to keep calm, carry on. Here at home, the president is reacting to the London Attack this morning tweeting about it, saying we must stop being politically correct, get down to the business of security for our people. If we dont get smart, it will only get worse. I want to bring in our panel. Robert, let me start with you about this. One of the other tweets is saying, we need to be smart, vigilant and tough. We need the travel ban as an extra level of safety. Do you think what were watching overseas is ing toe a catalyst for the travel ban to be reinvigorated as a policy of this administration . Let me back up and say i find it a little perplexing that the president would tweet about that first and not offer his condolences and thoughts and prayers to the victims and families. I thought that was interesting that his first two tweets were going into the political, which is not what i think a president should do coming out of the gate. But that is a separate topic. He did just to defend President Trump, he said whatever the u. S. Can do to help out london and the u. K. , we will be there. That was the third tweet. Anyway, it doesnt make a difference. My point simply is that this president clearly wants to take this in a political fight. He obviously wants to take this to the courts with respect to the travel ban. We know that the ninth Circuit Court pushed back on that. We probably think this is going to go to the supreme court. I think hes got a point here, but i would have phrased it much, much differently than he did in his tweet late last night. Also, these three attacks in three months, the u. K. General election coming up. The Prime Minister coming out saying we cannot have a tolerance for extremism. In a lot of these cases and we are learning about what happened in the most recent one, but for many of these european cases it is home grown terrorism, Second Generation citizens of these countries striking out on these attacks. And that is part of what is so dismaying of the president s instinct to initially go to the political and try to make a partisan political point before we even know all the facts here. We have no idea exactly what happened. Were still figuring it out and certainly when he sent that tweet, we didnt know what happened. So this is yet another moment where the president has a chance to step up and be a true Global Leader and instead he responds in a way that is crass and smallminded. Keep in mind, lets remember the reason the courts have struck down the president s socalled travel ban, because they found it to be against our values. They found it to be unconstitutional and having nothing to do ultimately with securing our country. So lets keep that in mind as well. Do you think people overseas, though, really respect exactly robert the president what hes saying especially saying he wasnt elected for the people of paris because he was elected by the people of pittsburgh . No. The same goes for he was elected by the people of lancaster, pennsylvania, not london. Hes factually correct, obviously. But he is a Global Leader now and he has to think on behalf of the global community, if you will, in the context of, look, the president of the United States has a lot of weight of what he says no matter what. It appears the president is not very thoughtful when it comes on how to respond to these type of things. 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